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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 29. 10. 2022
- Today we discuss the End of Fortnite's Build Mode. I want to hear what you guys think, as its a pretty complicated topic. In 5 years, build mode will have a LOT less influence than it does now.
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Chapter 1 s3-5 were the golden days in my opinion. You built but you didn't have to get super cracked. That was the after-school casual games that I loved when I used to play. Imagine skipping a season or 2 because you got super busy doing other things. You come back and ur like "this isn't fun".
vous ne jouez pas depuis le premier chapitre parce que og ne dit pas chapitre 1 saison saison 1 dites simplement saison 1
Nah just whole chapter 1 and chapter 2 with midas and everything
Blinded by your nostalgia
As a pro I really think the game is sort of dying but there is still time to save comp and arena and build mode in general
Frrrr
Although I'm a casual player, I still play build mode. Building and 3rd person view is what makes fortnite unique compared to other battle royals. I love the fact that I can build a cover around myself when I'm attacked rather than jumping around trying not to get lazered.
But No build forces you to rely on the âmobility-based items, and also (even more so than build mode) the storm rotation, learning your surroundings, knowing what tree lines to stick behind, and your accuracy plays a much more pivotal role as well because there will be times unfortunately when youâre left in the open and have to rely on you shooting your way out of a bad situation. Each mode definitely has its strategy to it, I hardly ever find myself in a position where Iâm going to be completely vulnerable to being shot or ambushed by 3-4 different players/teams, it starts to really help you focus on map knowledge and using your surroundings, checking the kill feed/mini map to watch for stronger opponents and trying to get creative with opportunities to have everyone else play your game instead of walking right into someone else baiting you into playing their game. Just go in with the mindset that youâre gonna own the game, and eventually itâll show. This season more than ever I feel the confidence level rising, most players I challenge instead of cowering, and mostly come out on top, something about it is new and refreshing.
@@casualgameaholic630 some people just enjoy Fortnite with building bc it just feels more original. I played fortnite since c1 s3 And without build mode I feel like I'm not playing The game I truly liked.
@@_dArKY_-_- oh I agree that it definitely brings out the uniqueness aspect. Iâve been playing since this game came out, founders edition beta edition the works when it was merely STW, so i, like sypher, have seen it grow and develop with my own eyes over these yearsâŠand yes the building has been and probably always will be the thing that separates it from the others, but unfortunately now that they have created a mechanism within the building aspect that many/most cannot keep up with unless they spend countless hours on it, it sadly already starts to feel less of the game that we used to loveâŠby their own creation theyâve unfortunately separated the game into many different ways of playing it, all which are ok, but the building mode is now solely belonging to the super sweats who can put in those hours and keep up with the skill gap. Whereas the other players who are just as competitive, are left behind, so all these modes thankfully bring the game back to many different types of players. Iâm just glad thereâs multiple ways to enjoy the game now with the directions theyâre heading
Same, if I wanted to play a shooter-mobility game, I'd play another game, building is what makes Fortnite unique
Lol all Iâm sayin is good luck keeping up with the skill gap with these other 12 year old kids out here whoâs parents are letting them stay home from school and hiring coaches because they think theyâre gonna win some fortnite cash cups and bring their family some fame. At least without the building aspect the other talented players who can focus on rotations and their shooting abilities can stand a chance. Just got a nice solo win, if this same win I just got was in build mode, the player would have more than likely built a massive base in 3 seconds and exhausted all of the fun out of the match by just cowering behind the turbo builds. Lol. I love building as well, but sometimes itâs just nice to get in and get the elims without having to go through a 20 min build fight just to get mopped by the next team because you ran all your mats dry with the previous fight. They just let it get a little bit too far. Again I love the build aspect, I can definitely hold my own, but it just gets exhausting and by mid match Iâm finding myself bored of it ready to swap. Idk maybe thatâs just me đ€·đ»ââïž
I'm a casual player. I've tried to close the skil building gap since I first started in chapter 2 season 2. I understand the problem with new players but the building mechanic is what makes the game special. I think a better algorithm and maybe game modes like easy build, normal or turbo , would help out new players. Taking walls and the low/high ping is another issue.
Iâve literally never built a thing in that game: I just shoot people because I played Apex and know how to win a gun fight
Iâve been playing since chapter 1 szn 0 and all i can say is i still love fortnite, players getting better forced me to get better aswell so i can definitely stand up for my self/win the game, but i do miss the old days were we all could just have fun
I personally would like to try a no edit mode. Still allowing builds but removing edits would be a good middle ground for people who still like to build, but canât keep up with the skilled editors
Thatâs a smart idea
Thatâs my biggest hurdle with build mode, I am decent with building but as soon as someone edits I give up đ
That could never work I hope you know that. You clearly didn't think it through when you came up with this "brilliant" idea
@@ryft_za it would work because thats exactly how i play and still got some wins.
@@atomicboyheroi no it wouldn't. Wall taking wouldn't be possible. You would always have to break out of your own box. You might not use the feature that much but other people do and it's necessary for build mode.
I'm in the middle. I'm not great at building and have no time to put into edit courses to become crazy at it. But I also hate zero build because I LIKE being able to throw up a ramp or wall for a bit of protection. Who knows what will happen! But thanks for these videos - I always appreciate your insight.
Try zone wars even if u die u can specatate othrr players and see what theyre doing so then u go jnto creative practice those also u can place a wall in creative and edit slow then get progessiviley faster
same here
My background with games like overwatch, tf2 and some other fps games like COD makes me love zero build, I wasnt so sure about zero build at first because I was so used to building a wall or box myself to heal after a fight. So it was weird at first. But once that background experience kicked in for me I got used to zero build. It might just be a question of if fortnite was your first battle royale game or if you didn't play a lot of fps games before
@@MiasTheGoatFr you don't get it people don't want to do zone wars they play for br and abit of fun going into zone wars is not the answer
@@MiasTheGoatFr nah bro zone wars is full of sweats i tried it once i didnt even get my loadout up they were already building up like 8 phases
Honestly, the big things driving me away is the inundation of so much junk and the massive skill gap. I just wish it was like how it used to be.
Well, nothing has changed within the past three years. Sweats *DISCOVERED* those mechanics
Play no build
@@K008gr Yeah there is a lot that changed lmao. Yeah sweats learned stuff but itâs still a completely different game than early c1
I really like the idea of making builds rechargeable. For example you start with 20 charges, which means you can put 20 building peaces however you want, but every building peace will recharge in 2 seconds. That means if you waste all your buildings you wonât be able to spam it anymore. However i feel like buildings themselves should be stronger.
This change will allow to do a short push pr build a fort or something like that, basically change the playstyle idk
This would be perfect imo. Would still allow you to push other players but you wouldn't be able to full tarp across the entire map and quad edit on someone like some of the sweats do nowadays. Would make building much more tactical.
Nah building ist the best thing in this game
@@ericjager824 I agree, building is what makes Fortnite Fortnite. But now it feels like it became exclusive only for sweats, which are the minority of player base, and therefore the community is divided really badly and this division will "kill" the game eventually. Iâm not saying that they should completely change building forever no, they just need to make another standard game mode (like no build) with the newly implemented build system and overtime make it the new competitive standard while keeping the old build mode so everyone would be satisfied. I know it may sound biased coming from me, but lets face the truth, for the better of the game changes in building need to be done.
Gosh Iâm such a đ€ writing this paragraph lmao
@@MvFreeze bro but the thing is that would be good for casual but for comp that would be horrible
@@driply7499 I think it would be a good additional game mode âTactical Buildingâ or something of the sorts. I just swear half the âcomp playersâ these days are just glorified spam builders anyways, and obviously not the pros, but a good portion of arena players these days just overbuild because they know theyâr probably going to die anyways in the actual gunfight and they try and just waste all their builds beforehand. Iâm at 17.3K arena points and I donât build like that. I just have better aim than most and I play smart. You donât need to spam builds to get kills or win games and I donât think it was ever Epicâs intention that building would get this ridiculously sweaty. If you had less builds per second it would make you play smarter with your Mats and not just spam build in every direction the second you get shot. Theyâd have to either give the builds like max hp on placement or make them gain HP much faster for this to be viable though since youâd still have the chrome AR/SMG spammers.
This game will always be the best game for nostalgia. Like the moments back then were just different
Nostalgia is biased
truth chapter 1 were the days. i remember those days when youâd hang with the boys just playing to get ur first win and weâd go nuts when it happened
@@jroe7211 Good times
Nah Skylanders
@@Jriniscool the only skylanders game i had was swap force for the wii. good times
This game will always have a special place in my heart, hope youâre doing great
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This game is a great game but they need to try there hardest for everyone to have fun I love build and no build they have a place in my heart but changes need to happen to stop the sweats
@@powergamingyt2662 itâs called get good at the game
@@billythekid22220 its called having fun. not everybody has all day and night to play games, people have responsibilities. grow up
just nurf how fast you can edit
I will never stop playing build mode regardless of what they do. It's just better for me, sure, I'm not great at it, but it keeps me in the game longer, which in turn makes it more fun. Every time I'm ik Zero build I get taken out instantly, and it's not fun. Or someone shoots across the map and I try to build, getting killed in the process with no direction in which to try and aim. I will take sweats building crazy structures over bush campers that you can't see any day.
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I agree bro like for build mode đ
I enjoy build mode because it makes the game different than any other br game
Play Overwatchđż
same the chances of winning in zero builds is like 1 in 1000000 and builds is funner knowing that finding cover in zero builds takes a long time unless you spam port a bunkers and shield bubbles
The easiest way to get rid of this problem is for Epic to limit how much mats you can carry. The less mats, the less you use. And if any sweats are in your game, they will probably run out of mats right in the middle of a build fight.
Good Idea
This doesnât solve the problem at all. Arena already does this (500 of each Mat), but the bigger issue is the fact that when you are in a fight being spammed, the guns in the current meta go right through the walls which encourages spam building/overbuilding to not take damage when youâre being sprayed. If builds had more hp when placed, that would help counter gun spamming which would reduce build spamming. I still do think there should be reduced materials in pubs too, if it had the same farming rate and max materials as arenas, it would be perfect. But gotta increase build HP. Especially when thereâs crap like a goo gun in pubs lmao that thing is whack.
@@MvFreeze oh
@@MvFreeze So you did end up agreeing with me saying that they should reduce materials. Don't say it doesn't solve the problem at all if you end up agreeing with it at the end.
@@lalalandboom223 well a solution of just reducing the builds would not help the issue, hence why I said it didnât solve the problem. Thatâs also why I added on with suggestions of increasing initial build HP and increasing the farming multiplier to that of arena. You were on the right track but if they were to just drop the total material count, people would just spray you like crazy until you ran out. This is already a common thing in arenas with the chrome AR. If a full Trio has chrome bursts, theyâll just target one player and spray until he runs out of mats. Thatâs why the game is so toxic and unplayable currently, the spray weapons force players to overbuild to avoid incoming damage, and then they run out of materials by end game or lose their current fight because they donât have the builds to build fight the players that just sprayed through all of their mats⊠If youâre talking about pub game modes, I also think bringing back a 25hp/30wood/brick/metal siphon would help for early game no-shield fights and end game storm fighting.
This is a great take, especially about builds. I also feel like build mode needs to be revamped for the sake of it being revived as a whole playlist. Too many players are discouraged by the fact that when they hop into build mode, all they'll be fighting are a bunch of sweats, whereas opposed to no-build it's a more casual experience. Change can be good and I do believe it needs to happen to make the entirety of Fortnite fun for everyone, with every game mode.
They really don't need to. Build mode has an audience already, they don't need to revamp it for the sake of attracting players who don't even like it for what it is.
@@anonymous19548 It doesn't NEED a revamp necessarily, but it would still be a good idea. Just think about how many players have left build mode for no-builds strictly because of how sweaty every one was in said builds.
This is just my opinion, but I end up finding more sweats is zero build then in build because all the sweats want to get easy wins by taking out all the new players. I personally stick to build mode for that reason alone.
just get better lmao and stop playing shitty zero build where u cant get better
@@Penguin-ns8nq that makes literally no sense
This is such a good video and it tackles a serious problem in the Fortnite community. Glad someone with big following finally spoke up about it.
I used to play main battle royale mode back when i started in Chapter 1 Season 2 because my friends said that it was fun to run around the map, get kills and win sometimes but when Chapter 2 started, it wasn't so fun anymore because of how people start building skyscrapers when they hear wind and i still can't build a two floor building in a second so i play team rumble and creative. It's really sad
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I play Fortnite since season 2. I love all the modes. I still build and build is still the thing that seperates fortnite from other games. Its very satisfying to edit and edit-kill or box-kill somebody. That satisfaction is less in zero build. I dont want the community to only play zero builds. Its a good topic of discussion. Thanks for the video :)
I love how intense these types of videos are like the end of fortnite or this props to you
Hes copying wirtual but with fortnite
@@TdogCute never heard of him, am I supposed to care?
@@bettercallseoul1504 Thats a bit egotistical.
@@dummyyyyyyyyyyy You should try to watch him. He posts trackmania which im not interested in but he makes it look amazing. Your not supposed to care but im just saying. Try him out
I think some changes would be cool but I gotta disagree that build mode will go anywhere. If anything the BR itself will die out a lot and it will be more creative stuff
Never liked build mode, the day no build came I was hooked to the game. EpicGames please bring RANKED matches to NoBuild!
zero build arenas existed last season i think but idk why they don't add it back
Same here bro. đ„ I love zero build mode. I hate the building mode, because it's headache for me.
I like zero build as well, but 90% of my friends *FORCE* me to play builds
@@K008gr Force them to play no build or find new friends hehe đ
@@nour.222 Unfortunately, those are the toxic 10-12 year-olds...
I agree that build mode is intimidating, especially Arena for new players (like myself). But to me, build mode is still the preferred choice. Improving a little bit every day makes Fortnite fun for me at the end of the day. Good suggestions though, Sypher
Iâm good at the game but the game is just trash. Old fortnite had so much fun and calmness. Maybe itâs just me but the memory of a cold winter night looking outside well its snowing and you and your brother are hopping on to play some games season 1-2
Arena isnât intimidating because your only playing at the level your skill can reach your not being thrown into sweat lobbies and arena rewards camping
@@zacharyholmes3375 The game was fun back then because evyrone was bad and you blinded by nostalgia
â@@bryant5786maybe not for you
I hope Build mode will stay, because it was kinda the thing, that made Fortnite back then so much more different than other battle royales.
Sypherpk I love the way your did this video and how you gave strategies pin how to fix build mode. I just miss those Good nostalgic days of Fortnite and I hope something does get fixed
I'm a new player (started a few months ago) and you're spot on. I went straight to zero build and stayed there.
I always have high hopes for fortnite and i hope the current situation gets better and i really wish the building mechanics becomes more beginner friendly and the skill gap gets less wide and i hope epic will find a way to make the competitive players and casual players both happy
I remember when I first started playing Fortnite, building was literally the coolest thing I had ever see in Fortnite back in 2018 and some of the reasons why I started playing. It was hard to build at first too lmao, I would die a lot but those were fun times and I hope we get to relive those moments again.
At the start of this season me and the final 3 were playing with a beachball
C3 c2 start we were all in the same tank
C2 s8 party with 3 people
I've had a lots of funny moments
I think lowering the amount of mats and also adding alternatives would make building fun
Exactly I've always been saying that like Arena PUBS should have 500 max mats when you run out you beeftp get more
â@@michaelownage5049 500? more like 50, it would be exactly like good old season 1, 500 limits nothing
@@grassmotts2753 just play no builds at that point the hell
Building is fun what are you talking about?
@@grassmotts2753 no
I used to hop on Fortnite around the chapter 1 Era⊠because of how people play with builds, I lost ineterest⊠I couldnât enjoy it. Then around the end of that same chapter going to chapter 2, I came back with a friend who could build a bit and he thought me enough I started to learn⊠but then I started taking things too seriously and it was just stressing me out that I cared so much for the mechanic⊠I like building, but I wish it was simpler and just to create ocasional cover or build tiny forts⊠so I hoped off again for quite a while⊠came back and stayed because of Zero build.. canât complain about the skill gap anymore and I can finally enjoy the matches even if I lose⊠its fun again for casual players such as myself⊠but I also donât want to see build mode go
I agree with sypherpk but I also think that they should do some serious skill base match making, like using the score system that it showily when you die like you hit shot accuracy ,how many kills you get per game, or how much damage you usually take per game,ect
Well said! Iâm a returning player from a few years back and your right. I donât even touch build mode because itâs simple, I just canât compete. And I canât spend the time to get better at building
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I am the same. Took a lot of seasons off after I couldnât keep up with sweats while on PS and now just play zero build
@@austinbyrd674 I came back but I can't play fortnite without building. He's very wrong in the sense that anyone can win in build mode. I don't wanna get shot at and not be able to build.
@@tobythies7719 same i play zero build too i just cant compete anymore with the sweaty 9 yr olds btw i post zero build gameplay on my yt channel if you want to check it out
@@tobythies7719 Yeah but back in the day it was fun now kids are sweats.
Gone to no build back to enjoying the game again will never play build again like I did back in the day đ
This was a thoughtful, well-made video. I like the idea of having builds start with more HP and that number decreasing with quantity of builds. And I agree this is a tough problem to solve. As a casual on Switch, I play No Build and get around 5-15 elims a match with the occasional Vic Roy. Iâve only ever loaded into Build mode by accident, where I won twice by sheer luck and defensive playing. I tried the original Fortnite when it first came out and exactly as you say, the learning curve was too steep for me with building. No Builds made me come back to the game and now I play every few days. I also donât want to see Build mode disappear.
Build mode wont go, the game is literally called fort-niteâ ïž
@@Squishy-Balls switch has bots nerd like in phone servers
that's so relatable I play on switch and I always try to play builf mode but always get rekt but I don't want it to go
@@gioia952 yea u need to get better
This is why I've always spent most of my time in Team Rumble, there's sweaties, there's building, but there are so many players on each team that overly defensive turtling and prolonged 1v1 build battles are nearly impossible.
i got a fitmc vibe from this video and it honestly was fun to watch even though i don't play fortnite anymore make more of these
i think they should make building like sprinting, you can only build so fast before you get worn out. this could make it more balanced and make people think about where to build and what to do
Thats an actual really good idea all though you would need to implement it in a certain way to work
lol imagine getting focused. it would suck
but what about endgame scrims?
What if the full build mode loot pool was like the charge shotgun making you think about how your going to fight other players, you wonât be able to run in there and just 200 pump and just remove smgs.
Agreed it would be nice and begineers wouldn't be so afraid and people wouldbe more careful so I agree with that
I honestly think chapter 2 season 2 was the best for both comp and casual. Yes, the mythic weapons were kinda OP but weren't "game breaking" and it was a ton of fun when you actually got it, now its just boring to get any mythics and all the weapons are a little TOO balanced (excluding the evochrome AR lol)
fr man it was the best season.
And the shotguns
@@sineadrainey2176 right
u dont know shit bout comp if u think the mythics werent game breaking go tell that pro players after rotating to 3rd just get triple dink by the scar
Chapter 2 was dog shit donât know what you on about lol
i love this style of video and editing scheme with syph. onii studios upgraded clearly.
i think sypher is one of the best fortnite content creators their has ever been. Such a lot of time invested into making these great complex video for us to watch, enjoy and think about!!
I feel like people donât appreciate this game because I used to be a sweat but I fell off completely but I always come back and regain my muscle memory in creative or a competitive map so once Iâm ready, Iâm prepared to play again.â€
The half of the community is more spoiled and rotten as ever been.
I think a mode with just 100 materials max should be considered. You keep the originally intended mechanics of building a fort in you get caught out in the open or to get that slight advantage in a fight but you totally remove all the crazy build fights. Removing the experience of building isn't quite nice if you played from the early days, but also being 'outbuilt' by someone isn't. So maybe a low material-capped mode could be considered
So if im 1hp and someone starts spraying with an smg i'll just die
@@ayoubhamdane8493so when you play other kinds of BR games you still have the building option?
@@AmitSharma-es2eb other br games maps are designed to have many walls and rocks to cover
@@ayoubhamdane8493 thereâs this mode called âzero buildâ đ
@@ayoubhamdane8493 fr, it doesnt make any sense
Good way of putting it, I miss season 1-5 the vibes and the community and the state of the game was so great.
I donât play this game anymore but I still enjoy watching Fortnite content from Nick Eh 30 and You Sypher! You two display such joy and passion into this game and I appreciate that from you guys! May God Bless you guys!!!! đđŒđŻâ€ïž
There should be a low buld mode where you can only hold 30-50 of all mats at once so there no buld fights but you can still take cover when youâre in the middle of the open
but there js no point in that because people can still spam there weapons like an AR or smth like
At that point just play nobuild
I literally made that ltm in creative
There was and it was an LTM called ground war
Like the OG ground fight mode
Thanks for the post Im new to Fortnite and loving both modes. Build is like a chess match I'm getting stomped but that said, If i go to a chess tournament the same happens. The process is what is fun to me. and if you put time in you do improve. I hope it stays. The concept is just great... thanks keep up the videos. Fantastic and fun.....
Iâm actually excited for fortniteâs future and it sets my mind with ease.
My thought on builds is to simply not allow edits until the build has completely formed. This way they're no longer going to act as one-way walls. It will really slow down the aggression and make things a little more strategic, and a little less technical. Not so much that skill won't prevail much of the time, but it levels things out a little.
wow, i like that
I agree this would be good for wood builds, but brick and metal walls that have a lot more half would be very bad to use because you have to wait 2x the time for it to be fully built
Sick asf idea Bro
great idea
this idea would sound good to someone who dosnt really study and play the game all that much. But actually this idea kinda sucks. For starters, this would completely change the game and all of the mechanics that people made. If you couldnt edit a build until it was fully built then that would mean no edit coursing, no boxing no anything.
Thanks for the videos Sypher! You deserve everything!
Bettercallseoul, yeah, right. Begone bot
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8:36 thatâs what happened to me, but I learned how to build again, I think zero build is stupid and it should be removed
You can try to find a mid point between zero build and building mode.. For instance, building without editing (or limited edit) and turbo build. In that way it will feels more like in the beginning. More fun and casual. And building will be used as an strategic tool, not like a slide cancel overpowered advantage (just like COD) if you mastered.
They should keep building as it is and remove zero build and replace it with ground game. Also something isnt overpowered when its the main mechanic of a game.
@@gibusvisionguy5814 It's going to die then bro lol. Be open minded
@@ericwest881 lots of games dont die and dont change
i remember in chapter 1 s1-4 were easy bc not alot of ppl are cracked in building but now im just quitting and joining back idk what to do, they are really cracked
This video is so well made, its perfect. Fortnite will always have a place in my heart love you all in the fortnite community, from a top 10 player in season 7 and top 8 in season 5.
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No he he is getting paid and bribed by epic ever Spence the iconic skin .he is nit genuine person as he used to be criticizing epic on chapter 2
@@101theobserver Did you watch the video? This video is literally him criticizing Epic. I don't see your point.
You make a great point here. As a âsweat builderâ myself, I can understand why people would dislike excessive building in casual matches, but it doesnât make sense when they apply the same logic to competitive and creative. There really is a disconnect between the casual and competitive community, resulting in them having vendettas for each other.
started playing in og season 1 til season 6 i think? i was just bored by the game and i was kind of doing other things, 2 years ago i tried to come back, but i was so overwhelmed by building, it was just broken for me. tried fortnite again couple months ago and discovered no build mode, which is so great, it awaken the passion i had for this game back in 2017. i see no reason to play build mode now.
Honestly, I love building it helps me do better and i hope that it won't go away.
@@A.F.1 no
Building will never get taken out. They will lose way too many current/active players.
Great content keep it up we appreciate all your hard work
Idea: Make a build mode except the amount of materials are extremely low and difficult to farm up. Say 80 mats per material type while mats are very scarce with a reduced farming rate. This would greatly encourage being resourceful and would still allow for skillfull building like peice-control and box fighting but would also pervent stuff like quadruple editing into a clip or 90'ing into the skybox. To prevent spam firing the buildings would have alot more health ( Like 2x or more the current health). I think it would definitely be difficult for pro players to get used to but it would be great for the game imo.
I see change in my building skill if i dont play game for week or two weeks, but then i play for a few days and i get better again
Fortnite build mode is everything I ever wanted a game to be ever since I started back in Ch1 S2. A game where the better player is 90% set to win. Because to be honest no matter how mad I get if a sweaty player kills me, in the end of the day I still get more mad if I see a bad player kill someone out of luck. It is fair and should remain like this. I only ever played on weekends and holidays, but I still managed to keep up
If build mode gets removed, then thereâll be nothing unique about Fortnite
Yep
This is why I love your channel so much. You pot a lot of thinking and reasoning into your subjects. I really like the comparision with GunZ, that game was amazing at the time, it had the potential to become so much more. But I remember how I went from getting a few wins daily, to eventually not be able to hit great players once. Similar to what happens with people with insane edits. I never thought how Zero builds could revitalize the game so much, and at the same time put the main mechanic in risk.
I really hope Epic are working in a comearound, which wonÂŽt be easy and probably will make a lot of players to quit. One recommendation that I really liked at the time, is when we knew that Fortnite would use the Chaos engine. At the time, a lot of us thought that building was gonna change dramatically, having individual blocks get destroyed and allowing parts of the structures to break separately allowing bullets/rockets to go through. This would force players out of their boxes and discourage the camping.
This is only my take on the subject, but I think it would be a great save for building, even if that means learning a different mechanic from scratch.
Chapter 1 season 1-5 was the best time of this game.. I had so much fun playing it with friends. We used to play 6-7 hours straight at night till morning. It was a blast, this game has a lot of memories and the vibe it had back then is unmatched
Love u man keep the good work up bro
I like the idea of the strategies and building ramps and 90s are. Those skills while I haven't mastered either. Don't seem to hard. Wall wall ramp jump turn etc. Or floor wall ramp when taking height while pushing. But the edit cycling is the real issue. Edits are to make builds that can be advantous in certain scenarios. Like doors, windows and shaped walls.
as a season 2 player, i have these old videos on my channel of my "crazy clips" and in those videos when i was looking at them again i was thinking how fun and the laughs with my friends and everything was. now i hop on and my friends i grew up playing with from middle school now play other games due to how non fun it is to them. i enjoy fortnite. But, looking back at those clips ill never have the same reactions as i did in the past due to just improving the cool plays back than are the usual now. but i agree 100% i find myself switching between the both build n no build and honestly no builds looking like the funner way for me to play the game.
I can relate honestly. I just kept on dying in Chapter 3 Season 1 because building was close to inpossible for me but since zero build came out I only once so often play builds heck most of the time I build is when I'm in creative and since I'm on a console it's very hard to edit
I dont think that with reducing the healt of the players as they are cracking would be a great idea cause that forces them to stop doing what they spent time to get good at.I think that the best senario would be if we had less materials,like 250 of each.They would still crack but that would last for much
The only way they could save build mode is if they add a 5 second delay on editing or just remove editing completely and then limit the amount of materials you can hold like the ground game LTM where you get just enough materials to be able to defend yourself when needed
Also make the builds stronger. Otherwise people will just spam their SMG at your builds til youâre out of material.
The edit idea is great. Like you can't edit a build that hasn't completed building, and obviously when you edit it restarts the build. That means you could edit wood faster than brick or metal, but obviously you're building with a weaker material as the down side.
Man really need to make penalize good player
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DAMMM why did all the good times have to go away, i remember towards the ending of 2017 when I played my first fortnite game. It was perfect everything down to the music all the way to the game itself, it brings back good memories. I got so addicted to it, there was so much hype about it; Mann i miss those days đ„șđ„đđ.
True finally someone talks about ping wall replacement that is actuall unfair thanks for speaking facts sypher
for the casual build modes, there should be a cooldown on editing builds. Once you edit a wall you cannot edit any structures again until the cooldown is done. Another thing would probably be to reduce the building speed. Thatâs just my thoughts tho.
the thing with that is it makes one side happy and the other upset.. which is already the problem
What's thre point!!!
Then a sweat as you call them, will just still be better!!!
You ppl are over thinking something that is unique!!!
sounds good to me!!
@@nikidrawsstuffs true. Thereâs bound to be someone to abuse the system.
Thats practically what ping is
love the content keep it up and you made some really good pionts
Good watch. Curious to see what's next from the Epic team after this theory starts to become a reality.
Outstanding analysis and great data to support your conclusion.
We love you sypher keep up the good work
I just redownloaded the game in the last few weeks and I love it all over again , I even get to play with my stepson and itâs teaching him better hand eye coordination which is cool because he just sees it as fun ..
I played this game for years as a casual player, I enjoyed learning to build and be somewhat good enough to do 90s and basic edits. Also playing on 200ping, it was fun, but building mode is so bad now, everyone else is just way to good. I wish they could give us an over 30 or or 35 mode
You can win in Build mode even if you're not good at building. Again, it's all about game sense and aiming. It's actually easier to kill people in Build Mode due to less shield protection. I shift between the two Build/Zero Build, but I have been playing Zero Build far more often.
My idea would be to have the building system tied to the stamina bar, so every time you build it takes x amount of your stamina. With this spamming builds would be impossible and when someone is in a box with no stamina you can take their wall. Idk how good this system would be but you know its just an idea.
Yeah take 4 or 2% of your bar every piece you place
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I'm one of those people who played Fortnite 24/7 through the OG Seasons 1-5... then did the early competitive in 7, 8 and 9.. I mainly stepped away because my OG account disappeared and lost all of my skins. However, now that I try to come back, I'm just not at the level I was back then, nor even close to the level of modern day players to compete. Zero build was fun for a few weeks but just feels like every other BR game so.. Staying on Dead By Daylight~
I've recently switched to zero build for many of the reasons In this video. I do play at least 5 times a week for maybe a hour or two but it's usually creative because when I do play anything with builds I just get cranked on.
This makes a lot of sense I joined fortnite a couple seasons ago and I've hardly touched build mode. Like you said it's just really intimidating and time-consuming to get good enough to be able to compete with the builders who have been building for years
This guy is the king of giving people nostalgia
i 100% agree that if epic game does not do anything with the build mode it will die down and be forgotten. great video as always :)
build fights were lit because I got used to being out built, adapted to low ground and started bopping from down low. the amount of clips I have of me smacking someone hard with a shotgun or hunting rifle from low ground is absurd
the wall replace mechanic I agree with but that's hard to implement because of ping the builds losing health over time would ruin the game and make spamming ars or smgs a huge problem
Then build less
@@ADMICKEY bro what. like that has nothing to do with what i said
@@ADMICKEY You got 1 brain cell.
@@void1392 well, what I mean is while they are spraying that slightly upgraded wall, edit it and shotgun em
Or let them waste their bullets on a slightly upgraded wall and shotgun em
@@void1392 sorry I didn't add anything 6hrs ago, fell asleep
Keep build mode, itâs what makes the game unique. Iâd suggest better skill set matching
Exactly
"Fixing" skill based Matchmaking won't fix the skill gap
The gap will be the same, and people will still be matched with people who are WAY better at a (certain point)
THIS. I've been saying this since 2018.
All they need is a mechanic... let's call it "True Rank." It's hidden, you don't know what your "True Rank" score is.
There are 100 levels in this rank.... and you're given a score based on the following:
- Average Shot accuracy
- Avg. Builds placed per match
- Avg. Number of edits per match
- Avg. speed per edit
- Avg. # of kills per match
Based on these things.... you are given a True Rank score... and then you are placed in a match with people who are within a range of your TrueRank.
Obviously, there will be fewer people at the top.... so, to prevent 10 minute queues for people at the top.... the matchmaking system will just grab players who are closest to the True Rank.
I don't know how hard this would be to implement, but it would make the game more balanced for everyone playing it!!!!!!
@@DPMusicStudio what you are basically presenting is a better more efficient version of arena. But this is definitely needed
That dose not work esp places like oce im up against people that shouldn't be in my lobbies and in them same lobbies are people I should not be up against so it makes the game not fun knowing u have to be really lucky to win. Not everyone can afford a pc or new gen console I have a ps4 and my son is on switch
I love this idea it would make people put more thoughts into how quickly they place their builds
there could be matchmaking based on building skills (avg builds placed and edits in a game, and winrate against ppl with high building skills)
The thing about zero build is that it is practically just another battle royale, but goofier. I like that mode, but it does take the "Fort" out of Fortnite. The building mechanic is amazing, but difficult for casual players to fully grasp. I myself can't do all the fancy highground retakes and editing techqniques.
I love this game. It's unique. It can be an incredibly fun game. Epic Game needs to make sure they make a game that lasts.
Sypher just letting you know you are one of the best streamer ever so inspirational đ
i never want build mode to end i love building and editing on kids itâs the most satisfying thing, but the ping issue i totally understand,
My opinion is if we want to keep it like it it is they need two separate teams for comp and casual and we need more surveys for weapons
i think one of the change has to be that we can edit other players builds too it might turn out good who knows
That sounds kinda annoying ain't gonna lie it's good idea but it would make all the sweats cry like when a decent smg is in the game
@@Joe-yr3wx ig you are right
I agree đŻ bring the changes that maybe turn this into a bit more of a revamp to earning the skills again! Always knowing thereâs more and I can control that is probably the reason I loved Fortnite the most.
I like your idea about the builds losing health, but what happens when someone just spams your wall until it has like no health. I think itâs a good idea, but there are some other details that can make it better.
Excellent video! I agree that there needs to be a change but not a removal of build mode.
I've been playing since the end of Ch 1 Season 5 and everything is different which is to be expected. BUT the reason building is ruined in my opinion is partly because of those players who are toxic about their ability when they come across someone who obviously cannot build like them. I know building had an important place in the heart of the game, but there is such a things as to much of a good thing. There needs to be a balance between the 2 play styles and being able to build skyscrapers in a second, using presets or speed building is a problem. I would like to see something like the more mats carried slows the build process down kind of like jump fatigue. Right now it just simply the speed of building that keeps me away from that mode altogether. I would also LOVE to see arena and competitive played the same as WE ALL play. Box fits create a HUGE disconnect and divide between us. It just comes across as a group of try hards and show offs (NOT ALL BUILDERS) rather than people who play the game they love. Maybe back to basics, so to speak, would be a good thing in this case.
this guys made this vid 5 times alr or smth like that and i still watch every one all the way to the end
đŻ% with u bro, i barely play builds anyomre too much stress n no fun
Love the video Sypher, keep up the great content!!!!
Bro u couldnât have even finished it yet lol
I wish they could just make a chapter 1 mode