In-Betweeners: Cities & Counties Sandwiched by Larger Metros
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- An overview of some cities and counties that are surrounded by metro areas of larger populations. I examine ones that are completely suburban where everything is built up around it as well as rural areas that are the only open space between two larger metros.
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0:00 Intro
0:29 Columbia, MD
1:46 Douglas County, CO
3:02 Flagler County, FL
4:20 Gordon County, GA
5:30 Madison County, OH
6:46 Hill County, TX
8:05 Kenosha, WI
9:35 Alamance County, NC
11:01 Cherokee County, SC
12:16 Princeton, NJ
13:39 Solano County, CA
An interesting geographic oddity to cover would be cities within cities. Hamtramck surround by Detroit would be an interesting example.
Ottawa Hills and Toledo
Vatican City within Rome
Or like Nichols Hills, Bethany, Warr Acres, Mustang, The Village, Forest Park, and Lake Aluma -- they are all completely surrounded by Oklahoma City. We call them "inburbs".
South Tucson inside Tucson!
Can’t forget Norwood & Cincinnati
I find it funny how Burlington, NC is the smallest city between two metro areas, while still having a larger population than Burlington, VT, which is the largest city in the whole state
Kenosha resident here, and, no joke, I took the photo you showed at the 9:00 minute mark! I almost did a spit take when that photo came up haha. As for the Bears/Packers, Chicago/Milwaukee split, it's very even in my opinion. Especially in recent years with IL people relocating north of the state line. We get both MKE and Chicago news stations on TV and I personally am a Packers and Cubs fan for the respective sports, so... there ya go!
There is certainly a Milwaukee/Chicago overlap, in both Wisconsin and Illinois. I grew up in McHenry County, IL, watching/listening to Milwaukee TV/radio stations and cheering on the Packers, Brewers, Admirals, Wave, and Bucks. Milwaukee was closer than Chicago where I lived.
Only thing that could make that picture any better would be if there had been two AMC/Ramblers on the near end of the street instead of those Pontiacs.
@nlpnt Agreed! Though this was taken at our annual downtown Labor Day car show a few years back, which is open to all makes. As opposed to our AMC/Nash Homecoming car show, which is only every 3 years and takes place on the lakefront.
Totally agree! I live near the center of Kenosha County and find the same. We moved here from Lake Co, IL as many have. If you spend any time in Milwaukee or Chicago, you find that our area is literally a cross between the two areas yet not exactly like either.
To me it feels like the city of Kenosha is more packers and the smaller towns are more bears fans. A lot of Chicago transplants in the smaller towns. My parents moved to Silver Lake and commuted to Chicago and Maywood everyday for work.
Your bit about Columbia is a good case study in how strange Maryland is. In Maryland, many of what would be considered cities/towns in any other state are just "census-designated places," including quite a few of the most populated communities. Baltimore city is not a part of the county of the same name, which surrounds it. And then you get to Columbia, the second-largest urban area in the state by population, and it's even weirder than that.
Columbia is definitely *heavily* suburban and one of many reasons why central Maryland has become absolute traffic hell in my lifetime.
Yeah, it's bizarre, tbh. I live just over the Baltimore City line in Baltimore County. We have a population greater than Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont, DC, and the city itself, but there are technically no cities here at all. Places like Dundalk, Towson, Pikesville, Owings Mills, etc. are easily the size of small cities, but it's just an oddity of the way MD is set up after Baltimore became separate from its surrounding county.
Same with Waldorf being much larger then la plata in Charles County, while la plata is incorporated and Waldorf isn’t.
I live in Baltimore and have friends in Columbia. What's great is the lack of billboard and roadside advertising. Also, gas stations are kind of tucked away, almost hidden and don't have obnoxious signs announcing themselves.
As a lifelong resident of the south, I envy that drive lmao
One thing I will say about Columbia is that it's definitely more "Baltimore" than "DC". The DC area really starts around Laurel.
I find that extremely annoying. Whenever I drive through Columbia if I need to stop for gas or pick up a snack I have to pull out my GPS because you can’t see anything.
I live in Hanover MD and Columbia is called Howard County’s dirty little secret. Horrible traffic, endless shopping centers, and rising crime. Columbia is a dump
Love that Geography King uploads on weekend nights. He knows what side his bread is buttered on.
If it says anything about the economic linkage to Chicago, Kenosha is the only Metra commuter rail station outside of Illinois. As for football… imagine being a Bears fan if you have a choice in the matter lol.
Laurel Maryland is near Columbia and was the original "halfway" point between Baltimore and DC and is an actual town with a mayor.
There's been a tremendous amount of industrial development in Alamance County, NC over the last couple of decades. the town of Mebane in particular, which is east of Burlington and west of Durham, has a huge and growing industrial park. Ready access to transportation is one reason for this since I-40 and I-85 run concurrently through Alamance county, giving it major interstate leading north, south, east and west. The main rail corridor between Atlanta and DC also runs through Alamance County, and it's only 30 minutes from Piedmont Triad International Airport in Greensboro, which is developing into more or a commercial/industrial airport than a passenger airport
I lived in Douglas County for 35 yrs, still own a house there. Wow has it changed since I moved there in 1972. It was extremely rural with a small population.
The entire state of Connecticut.
You're not wrong
Don't you mean the entire _stateS_ of Connecticut and Rhode Island?
I'm glad you mentioned Marineland - it's the smallest incorporated town in all of Florida and was the final town in my recent video of the smallest towns in Florida. Great concept for this video Kyle - nice job!
Thanks man. Keep up the good work on your channel!
@@GeographyKing Will do! :)
New Braunfels, Texas immediately came to mind.
I live in Contra Costa county CA, and when I saw the video title, I wondered whether you'd talk about the Fairfield/Vacaville area. Did not disappoint!
Nice reference to House of Cards there with Gaffney, SC.
Home of the big peach rear-end in the sky!
@@johnalden5821 That's not what Francis called it!
When you drive by, keep your eyes on the road!
Trenton has commuter trains from both New York (New Jersey Transit) and Philadelphia (SEPTA). There are timed cross-platform transfers between the systems, allowing for fairly quick train travel between New York and Philadelphia at a lower cost than Amtrak.
Yes. Princeton (Junction) is not a far ride from these metros. Seems like a nice commute
Hey Kyle! Hate to be that guy but the county seat of Alamance county is actually graham, not Burlington. But I understand why nobody thinks of graham and think of Burlington since it is so much bigger. Also I love these list type videos you do!
Lakeland, Florida is another one! I live here, and we're pretty much right between Tampa and Orlando. Interestingly, locals don't really consider us a suburb of either, although many citizens do commute to one of the two cities. The unique thing about Lakeland is that in contrast to other fast-growing Florida towns, most of Lakeland's growth has been internal rather than due to urban sprawl. Some think it will soon be a large urban hub in its own right
Went there once for Detroit Tigers Spring Training game. They played whatever team Bo Jackson was on....ages ago.😅
@@cashmeremonroe7715 Oh wow no kidding! Must have been a sight to see. The Tigers still spring train here! I always look forward to them coming back into town
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Cool town! If I ever leave California, Florida is high on my list. Be there for a rally in a couple of weeks.
We moved here to Lakeland (technically the Lakeland/Bartow boundary) from the Detroit area, and will do ANYTHING to not have to go to Tampa or Orlando just for the sole purpose of avoiding I-4, lolol
@amyadams656
Yeah I was born and raised in Detroit. Loved it back in the day. I never want to live there again. Left over 30 years ago. I've lived in California for 23 years. Best weather, beautiful oceans....
I live in a betweener that most people in San Diego haven't heard of.
I live in Douglas County, and your cover shot of Castle Rock is what made me open the video as I live, literally, 7 houses from "The Rock". I also do work with Douglas Land Conservancy, a land conservation group that holds the permanent conservation easements on about 27,000 acres of land in Douglas County. We are working to keep Douglas County, in your words, an "in-betweener", where open space and conserved lands allow all people to be able to enjoy the natural beauty of this part of the Front Range of Colorado.
Thanks for all you do Kyle, love your work.
Thanks for some good insight. That's good to hear. Best of luck
Columbus Indiana. About halfway between Louisville and Indianapolis. Although most of the suburban expansion of Indy goes north the area between the two metros keeps closing. Columbus is also home to Cummins so it's both a bedroom community and has one big employer.
I grew up in Columbia! (At least during my junior high/high school years.) This was a pleasure. I didn't know that it was the ancestral Howard Hughes company that now runs Columbia; historically it was the Rouse Company, founded by Jim Rouse, the visionary that came up with the Columbia concept.
I live in the same county as Columbia, and it really is a pretty nice place. But it has no cogent layout that I can discern, and all the buildings are off the road and behind berms, etc., so there are no visual landmarks to tell you where you are. Your car will need a built-in compass, and GPS is essential (and often not enough to find where you are going). Also, the street names are ridiculously fey and granola, like "Whispering Swan Way" or "Disappearing Sunset Drive." It's like a 1970s urban planning Brigadoon.
This is so accurate. They definitely don’t want outsiders coming in even though they pride themselves on inclusion because of the mixed housing budgets.
Lots of personal connections to the cities mentioned in this video. Great discussion
Keep up your good work.
Always interesting topics. Thank you.
Really cool video. Thanks!
Another excellent video, Keith!
Did Kyle change his name?
Excellent informative video ❤
Great video, Kyle. Another one for this: Anthony TX/NM. Really part of the El Paso/Las Cruces MSA but definitely still a small town. And two separate ones at that. You can tell the state line by the three dispensaries right on the New Mexico side of the border. 🥳
I always loved "Exit 0"
My cousin was born and raised in the Kenosha area. We're now in our 50s and they have always identified more with Milwaukee & WI than Chicago & IL. Their friends are similar.
Douglas County is doing it's best to fill it in. A Costco centered shopping area is going in at the location of that last view you had in that video. And Colorado Springs (El Paso County) is working even harder to fill in what they can. It's sad.
For sure but one day the front range will run out of water.
I love your videos!!! 🗺️
Thank you!
Columbus resident here! Madison County is one of the few counties surrounding Cbus that is not growing rapidly. They really want to keep their rural atmosphere, where as Delaware and Licking Counties are growing extremely fast along with Franklin County. Now I noticed you said West Jeff has been losing population… that will not be a thing for much longer. They are embracing the rapid growth and are in the process of building business districts and housing developments. Central Ohio was the fastest growing region in the US the last quarter of 2023 and it’s only beginning
'Licking' County? I don't want to know.
@@Mark-uq9km 🤣
“home of the wampas cat”…. Love it!!!!
Itasca probably wanted Tigers as their mascot but it probably got taken by a near by town. Source Native Texan who lives in a state with a lot of small towns...
A factor in tying Kenosha to the Chicago metro area is the Metra Union Pacific North Line which provides commuter rail service between Kenosha and Downtown Chicago.
Hillsboro, TX had a big outlet mall that’s now pretty much empty. Too bad, I would always stop there whenever I drove from my home near Dallas to Austin.
I didn't realise you had a second channel. Glad you mentioned it. 👍
It's a side project that I don't want cutting into my main focus here. Probably only 10 videos tops this year on the channel.
@GeographyKing Ahh, well, I've subscribed anyway. Love seeing what's going on in the US from all the way over the pond here in the UK.
For me it’s Hays, Guadalupe, abs Comal counties between Austin and San Antonio. All are a patchwork of rural, suburban, and micro-urban with equal amount of influence from Austin and San Antonio.
You're right about that outlet mall in Douglas County, every time I drive into or past Castle Rock they make sure you know there's an outlet mall there that you just have to check out
I've been to the Mars Cheese Castle! It's a place in which your money and you are soon parted. Between the mind-boggling cheese selection and the world class beer section, I strongly recommend not going there if you're hungry or thirsty! You'll leave bankrupt!
Great video, as always, Kyle. I can recall when you were first starting out on You Tube, and feeling your way. What's remarkable is you've managed to come up with fresh content and you seem more at ease on camera; however, your love of geography has always been the driving force for this channel. Thanks for your years of work, always informative and entertaining. Cheers!
Thank you! I appreciate the support through the years. Things have changed for sure, and I do feel more at ease when recording. It's wild to think that I've been doing this for over 7 years.
Yeah I lived in a rented apartment in Columbia, Maryland twenty years ago. As mentioned, it was developed as a master planned town in the late 1960's and it is divided into villages with shopping and public schools within walking distance of homes. It was supposed to be socioeconomically diverse and inclusive.
The traffic on i 75 from Chattanooga to Atlanta is crazy
Crazy nice shirt today Kyle. Love it.
Look at Frankfort KY. It is halfway between Lexington and Louisvillle. It only has about 25,000. It is quite rural but bizarrely also the State Capital. Most of the govt workers live in the two bigger metro areas. I have lived in both Lexington and Louisville
Kenosha has commuter train service to Chicago, may account for some of this.
This is what I came to say.
So simply liking your comment and commenting here is plenty.
As a Kenosha resident. I do not associate with Chicago.
Because of North Carolina’s “Piedmont Crescent”, there’s a couple notable inbetweeners in addition to Alamance County.
One is Harnett County, which is the county between Raleigh and
Fayetteville. And then there’s Rowan County (and its seat, Salisbury), which is right between the Charlotte metro and the Piedmont Triad.
Lived in Kenosha for 20 years now.
Chicago and Chicago suburbs (Lake County really) have a greater economic tie to Kenosha. we used to say everyone's first job in Kenosha was at Six Flags in Gurnee, IL (mine was too)
When it comes to social events, depends on what is happening and where. That is how we decide which city we go to. Being on the Metra line really benefited us when going downtown.
Hopefully the KRM rail to Milwaukee is built so you guys have Metra to Chicago and KRM rail to Milwaukee and the south suburbs of Milwaukee
The I-5 corridor between Seattle metro to the south, and Vancouver, BC to the north is a future candidate for saturation. Although there are open areas between the two cities, it is a very narrow corridor, bounded on the west by Puget Sound, and to the east by the Cascades. Agricultural land in Washington State is protected for the most part, but development pressures are significant.
This was a unique video. I just met someone the other day from Princeton, and she made your point here, that Princeton is tied to neither NYC nor Philly. But my favorite entry in this video was the first one. Columbia's creation is really fascinating. Incidentally, the creation of Palm Coast (Florida) was actually quite similar to that of Columbia. It was created essentially as a private entity, and existed that way for decades. But a massive fire in the mid-90s made the residents reconsider, and they incorporated as a city a few years later.
Thank you for that info. It's always nice to learn new things.
I live west of Kenosha, and I'm a Milwaukee guy. Milwaukee is closer than Chicago (the midway point is about Gurnee). To me, it should be considered the Milwaukee metro. The bad thing about Kenosha is that, until we get that wall built at the state line, those Chicago people are going to keep moving here for a better quality of life.
Chicago people? Do you mean FIBs?😄
@@bigcat618 Precisely. FIBs!
I love the fact that my friends from the northwest Chicago metro consider themselves more Milwaukee than Chicago.
I don't know where you got Kenosha being 8 miles to Illinois from. It's only 3 miles from border to border and it's 6 miles from downtown Kenosha to Illinois
Thank you for the correction. I'm not sure where I got that 8-mile number from either.
San Marcos Texas. In between San Antonio and Austin deserved a mention.
I used to travel between Louisville and Cincinnati pretty regularly and I used Carrollton, KY as my halfway marker. I'm not certain it's big enough to be used for a topic like this video but I always thought of it as a 'city in a forest' because everything on both sides, Louisville to Carrollton and Cincinnati to Carrollton, is almost continuous wooded land. Also it's far enough from both to not be considered in either's metro area. Best place to stop for food on this specific drive as there's pretty much nothing else until you get to Louisville or Cincinnati
Let's hear about smaller anchor cities with two city metro areas like Tacoma, Durham, st paul
Saint Paul is not a separate metro. They've been joined at the hip with Mpls for well over 100 years. They are the same metro --Mpls/St Paul, MN/ WI.
I used to live in Princeton. Its county, Mercer, is part of the Phila metro, but where I did my research, about 5 miles northeast, was in Middlesex County, part of the NYC metro.
That's very interesting, and all videos well thought out, thanks. . . :>/
You mentioned Burlington is the county seat of Alamance County but it is actually Graham.
Thank you for the clarification.
Seatac, WA between Seattle and Tacoma isn't exactly a rural buffer anymore, but it's definatly inbetween.
People think of Seatac as an airport but it IS it's own city.
Hey, I love your channel! I’m moving to Bozeman Montana for the summer for conservation corps work. I have to be there by may 11th. I’m leaving austin texas today, and I was wondering what recommendations you have for a road trip? I was thinking about big bend, Guadeloupe national park, then Grand Canyon possibly. In really want to see the west coast (specifically the Oregon coast) but I don’t know if I’ll be packing too much into a short amount of time.
If it helps, I’ll be working 9 days on and 5 days off, so I’ll use those 5 days off to explore the surrounding Montana and the surrounding states.
Thanks!
Looking forward to your vid on Van Nuys/Sherman Oaks
Alamance County is already in the Piedmont Triad CSA (~1.74M) and is clearly closer to Greensboro than it is to Durham. In the Raleigh-Durham CSA (~2.37M), the growth is more centered on the eastern side of the metro toward Raleigh and pretty far from Alamance. I don't see Alamance shifting CSAs, but if it did so the Raleigh-Durham CSA would jump to over 2.5M. As it stands now now, both the Piedmont Triad and The Research Triangle (Raleigh-Durham) are nearly identically sized in area, but the Triangle is growing much more rapidly. Along with the Charlotte CSA, the three Piedmont CSAs form the developed Piedmont crescent of the state.
I live in grayslake which is just south of Kenosha, it is definitely more associated with Milwaukee then Chicago. When I attended UW-Milwaukee, a lot of the students came from Kenosha and the Milwaukee Area Technical Colleges (MATCs) reach into Kenosha county I believe and so a lot of students transfer to Milwaukee schools through their associates program
Interesting topic. Fitting your criteria I would nominate Woodburn, OR between Salem and Portland. It’s become home to a large and expanding outlet mall and distribution centers including an upcoming mega Amazon hub that will be the biggest in the state despite being in a surprisingly small town
SPARTANBURG MENTIONED LETS GOOOOO. I was in gaffney this morning
Thanks, Kyle. Any more interesting maps coming down the pike?
There will be more. I generally post those quarterly.
We spent a lot of time at Flagler Beach when traveling to Florida. I think it's the most beautiful stretch of beach on the Atlantic side. It wasn't extremely crowded and the people were super nice.
Agreed. I love Flagler Beach.
i used to work near west jefferson. it’s a booming logistics corridor, there’s two amazon facilities, two target distribution centers and more. they draw a lot of workers from springfield as well as columbus
there’s not a ton of development west of columbus because of the big darby creek and its watershed. a lot of environmental protections. it’s a cool river, really diverse ecosystem. it’s for the better it’s protected. so there’s always going to be some barrier between most of madison and franklin counties
west jefferson is pretty hostile to housing development though. there’s not much of anything in the town. if you want groceries you have to shlep to london or to the western edge of columbus. if anywhere in madison county is going to develop in the near future, it’ll probably be plain city up near the dublin area, NW columbus seems to be growing very quickly.
Yea, most of central Ohio's sprawl is going North towards Delaware, although the western suburb of Hilliard has certainly done it's share of sprawling over the last 10-15 years.
@@davidtraube7921 even hilliard has a fairly clear line between development and sprawl
@geography king very interesting video! I live in Rome, Georgia (Floyd County). Floyd has right at 100k and we boarder Gordon County, you covered in this video. Rome is basically on the middle of a triangle between Atlanta, Chattanooga & Birmingham. We have no direct intestate access. However, we have 2 public colleges and 2 private colleges, and we're the regional Healthcare center with 2 regional hospitals. There are some new companies that are building huge factories / campuses in Floyd and neighboring Bartow County. We have many many new housing communities that are being built, and more being planned, as they expect these new companies to bring a lot of new people to the area.
Can you take a look at Rome/ Floyd County Georgia? I would love to hear your thoughts and input on this area. I don't think we'll ever be considered a part of metro Atlanta, Chattanooga or Birmingham, but what do you think we will become?
Thank you in advance!!
Keep up the awesome content!!
I think Rome is located just far enough away from Atlanta or Chattanooga to not be "sucked in" by either. LaFayette is about as far as anyone from Chattanooga would want to commute. Not being along I-75 helps with that. A lot of trucking companies and the carpet factories are closer to Dalton and the interstate for easier shipping. I've been to Rome a few times and it's a pretty nice big town/small city. I think it's growing at a healthy rate and not bursting at the seams.
@@GeographyKing thank you for your quick reply! I grew up in Rome, went to college in Atlanta and lived there for about 11 years. Moving back to Rome was a culture shock, but I've been back long enough now that I can't believe I put up with Atlanta traffic for 11 years lol.
I had know doubt after reading the video title that you would talk about Solano County. I'm born and raised in SF and call Solano County my home for going on a couple decades. It's a great place to live, great people, weather and diversity.
Irrelevant question for a future video: What distinguishes the North American deserts from each other / how are the borders drawn? I know that there are differences in wildlife, elevation, and climate, but there are regions that don’t seem to align with the borders Ive seen on maps in that regard. For example much of the desert in SW california that is technically part of the Sonoran desert seems to have more in common with the Mojave desert. Some of the borders make sense geographically, being separated by mountains and such, but in other areas the borders seem pretty arbitrary. I’d appreciate your thoughts on this and keep up the great vids.
Welcome to Columbia Maryland!
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Pretty much
Kenosha is connected to Chicago via Metra, but so is Trenton NJ and that's now considered apart of the NYC Metro-but it has local connection to both so its in a unique situation as Amtrak only runs between Wickford JCT (south of Davisville, RI) and New London, CT and Newark, DE and Perryvillle, MD (although there are plans to change that-although going between MARC and SEPTA won't be as reliable as in Trenton), especially since all trains terminate at Wilmington on weekends. At that, the total amount of weekend trips is equal to the number of round trips to Newark during the week (9 in, 8 out)
Nice shirt, Kyle!
10:50 hit the nail on the head with that one !
yooo....anyone else notice the Francis Underwood headstone randomly thrown in? Frank Underwood? wasn't that Kevin Spacey on house of cards? WHAT THE H?!
Saw it, but it meant nothing to me until I saw your comment. Still means nothing, since I've never watched the show.
I believe his character on the show was supposed to be from Gaffney, SC.
I’m surprised that no one else mentioned it. It’s pretty funny how he throws random references in his videos.
I live in Columbus, with in-laws in Springfield, but have not heard any mention of things picking up in London. Most of what I've seen in the area has been West Jefferson and Plain City, but a lot of the towns in the area are deathly opposed to growth, as witness by scads of anti-distribution signs. For what it's worth, I've made a few driving golf vacations to Kenosha (seen the Cheese Castle and all) in between playing some of the nicest municipal courses you can find in the Midwest ...
Laurel/Columbia MD is a good one. I think you should do Ashland NE on a future installment!
Love the Dr. Feelgood!!
The Dayton-Columbus space fascinates me. Whereas Dayton has largely grown south into the Cincy Metro (Springboro), Columbus has largely grown north and east (Delaware, Westerville, Reynoldsburg). And as you point out, oddly, Clark and Madison counties are stagnant or shrinking. Selfishly, as some who has lived in Cincy, Dayton and Columbus, I’d live to see what I call the “Wright Angle” develop: a megalopolis-ish grouping of these three (really interesting and distinct) metros.
You can even add Cleveland to that. Columbus is just in a prime location being directly in the middle of a large state
pretty sure it’s something to do with big darby creek. not sure if its a floodplain but that’s a big reason columbus has a pretty sharp end of development to the west
@@UserName-ts3sp That is a legit reason actually! Darby Creek is a huge benefactor to the local ecosystem and they are trying to protect it at all costs
I-85 between Atlanta and Charlotte will be one of those big metro areas. I-75 from Atlanta to Chattanooga will be as well.
That was interesting. I remember driving between Batimore and Washington DC and did not notice a community in 2016. I was on the Batimore Washington Parkway. Some of those places are small compared to the big city. It is a nice alternative
The BW parkway is kind of deceiving as large portions pass through NPS lands. If you drive along highway 1 it feels more like one continuous suburb.
@@kevinrob4 that sounds right.
And even along 95 between Baltimore and 495, it doesn't seems like there are much due to the tree cover. The moment you take any exit, though, it is sprawl.
Agree on taking Route 1 - it is endless business park from 195 down to 32, then it is endless strip malls as you drive through Laurel and Beltsville.
I live not too far from Columbia, MD. Even though it’s a “planned community” or whatever it’s not too bad. That lake is nice. I have spent some time around there. Some good restaurants. I used to go to that mall a bunch when I was younger. They’ve got merriweather post pavilion so they had warped tour there for a while years ago.. always also brings in some big names for concerts. Since it’s a bunch of neighborhoods the traffic isn’t intimidating at all to drive in.. especially compared to driving in general around Maryland. Not a bad little city.
Living in NY I rarely have come across people from Princeton. While I do think some people commute I think Princeton does its own thing due to the University and closeness to Trenton. If anything maybe more commute to Philly, but I couldn't say.
Surprised Lakeland, Fl didn’t make this list, as it is nearly perfectly in between Orlando and Tampa
Madison County, Ohio is a good mention, but I would also include the little strip of land between Cleveland and Akron or the land between Akron and Canton/Youngstown/Kent
We sold a 7120 magnum to a father son farming operation in kenosha wisconsin it was my parents biggest tractor on their dairy farm and I spent a lot of time in that 2wd tractor as a kid hope they still got it and are farming
I'm obsessed with that shirt. Where did you get it?!
Jefferson County WI would be another example. It's really the only rural area left keeping Milwaukee and Madison apart.
I wouldn't say that's sandwiched. Kenosha is a much better example thanks to the restrictions of Lake Michigan.
I was thinking Jefferson county too! It really is a buffer zone from Milwaukee and Madison.
@@jacksonfromwisconsin2005 Pretty much so now if you go back 40 years ago Waukesha County west of Waukesha was pretty rural that is all changed. I guess you could argue far eastern Dane County is still rural once you get east of Cottage Grove.
It's so funny because I'm from Maryland and the first thing I though about was Columbia,MD and behold that's the first city you mentioned..😂
Have you looked at Whatcom/Skagit counties in WA? Bellingham is between Seattle and Vancouver BC a tad closer to BC.
My grandpa used to live in Castle rock, it's a really nice place
Nice list as always - may I propose Erie, Pennsylvania as an addition. We are a city of ~100K and county of ~250K located equidistant between Cleveland and Buffalo. 90 miles from each. Pittsburgh is 120 miles south. All three easily accessible by I-90 or I-79. We often joke about the rarity of having three NFL teams within a two-hour drive of Erie. An intersection of the Northeast, Midwest and Appalachia.
No Arlington Tx, or Lakeland Fl?
Interesting video. Knowing Princeton and Columbia reasonably well I would say the social and economic dynamics of each are significantly different than many of the other in-between areas covered in your video. Princeton has an median household income over $176K and Columbia is over $124K. In Princeton, over 85% of people have college degrees, with the level at over 63% in Columbia.
I would argue that both Princeton and Columbia are a separate class of community of high education and high income with enormous privilege. Along Route 1 in Princeton, there is a dense concentration of pharmaceutical offices. While Columbia has a high concentration of government (mostly defense) related offices.
Despite James Rouse original plan for Columbia, MD (taken from wikipedia) - "Opened in 1967, Columbia was intended to not only eliminate the inconveniences of then-current subdivision design, but also eliminate racial, religious and class segregation" - I would argue that they are among the most segregated communities in the US in terms of class. Interestingly, both are pretty diverse racially.
Today, the cost of entry into either, whether it be as residents or as employees, is extremely high. Homes in both are well above the national average. Available jobs typically require high status (education and experience) for high paying jobs. Low paying service jobs require long commutes from more affordable living enclaves.
Thank you for making me think about this. And about other communities like Princeton and Columbia that have (whether by design or circumstance) have segregated themselves into opportunity zones for privilege.
I’m from Columbia, and it is pretty wild how socioeconomically segregated each village is (there are some more affordable areas closer to our “downtown” but the newer, more outer villages are extremely wealthy (though still ethnically quite diverse)). What that means is you grow up in a little economic bubble one way or another and then have less than 10min away a vastly different level of wealth. So while the schools aren’t as economically diverse, you go to the mall or anything in the heart of Columbia and its a lot more diverse
GasBuddy is intrigued by these places, also. I think I bought gas in 3 of them on a 7500-mile road trip this month. NC, TX, OH. Though if I'd had time to detour to the USAF museum in Dayton, gas was even cheaper in that particular part of Dayton.
I know a few people who live in the Kenosha area and very much associate more with Wisconsin than Illinois.
I believe Kenosha is counted as part of the Chicago metro is because Metra (Chicago commuter rail) serves Kenosha in Wisconsin. So there is a good portion of commuters going to Chicago. What’s also funny is if you live in that area, you get both Chicago and Milwaukee cable stations on cable (ie ABC, CBS and NBC from both Chicago and Milwaukee).
But much of the same can be said of Lake and McHenry Counties in IL in relation to Milwaukee (minus the rail line). I used to live in McHenry County, watching Milwaukee stations and commuting to Milwaukee for work. So, the northern 1/3 of McHenry Co. could very well be considered Milwaukee metro as well. I guess there's just kind of an overlap.
@@admirals818 ahh no. You do not get Milwaukee cable stations. And there is quite a large gap of farmland between those areas and Milwaukee compared to the urban sprawl of Chicago. No one will agree with you that Lake and McHenry counties are part of Milwaukee.
@@andykillsu Milwaukee TV (and radio) stations are available over-the-air in northern parts of those counties. Not sure about cable. Nobody has that anymore. But, I was a Milwaukee guy growing up in McHenry County. I was a few miles closer to Milwaukee than Chicago. But you go ahead and tell me about the place where I grew up. I consider distance more relevant than the farmland you speak of.
Honorable mentions goes to Pinal County Arizona, roughly halfway between Phoenix and Tucson, and in fact the southernmost edges of the Phoenix area meets the northernmost edge of the Tucson metro area
McHenry County Illinois acts somewhat as halfway between Rockford and Chicago, and it isn’t as urban in the very northern/western part of the county and in fact Harvard Illinois is the most rural town in the Chicago area
Riverside County California or at least while driving on I-15 acts as a in between County between Los Angeles and San Diego.
Jefferson County Wisconsin is basically the other in between Wisconsin county as people commute to both Milwaukee and Madison for work.
Monroe County Michigan is basically either Toledo Ohio or southernmost Detroit suburbia.
San Marcos, TX between San Antonio and Austin
Alamance is set to grow significantly in the coming years due to several plants opening up in the county and neighboring counties' unwillingness to expand.
I know you probably don't consider Boulder Colorado to be a Metro. But the best example of Colombia, Maryland in Colorado would be the City and County of Broomfield Colorado. It did have some history before, but basically it started out as a planned community in the 1950s halfway between Denver and Boulder. Because it was the only interchange on the newly constructed Denver - Boulder Turnpike. I would also add San Mateo County California to your list. The entire county is basically nothing more then the middle ground between the City and County of San Francisco and San Jose, Santa Clara County.