My biggest mistake investing was at the beginning. I'd just search for any products that were on sale/ well below retail rather than good high quality stuff like sealed booster boxes. I stocked up on a bunch of ancillary items that, even though will probaby go up in value overtime, aren't as liquid and a pain to store. To echo one of your points, it really helps to invest in items you peronsally like so even if it goes tits up, at least you have something you enjoy.
Went to a card shop that opened near my work. Haven't looked at pokemon cards since they came out (1st three sets). We both fell in love with the new 151 set and even started collecting for our new born son. I then got deep into the investing information and decided to get a few UPC's to keep for a decade or 2. Now hearing about the reprint is kinda worrying me about a drop in price... guess we will see !!! 😅
I’m concerned about the health of this market over the long term. Much of this hobby is driven by artificial scarcity. EVERYONE is buying sealed product. The secret is out. So how can you say that sealed will be in demand 10-20 years down the line, when we’re all buying it up currently? We’re all sitting on 151 boxes. We’re all sitting on Evolving Skies boxes. This stuff isn’t rare. Vintage stuff has legitimate rarity because there weren’t a ton of “investors” back then. Now, everyone and their mothers are in this thing buying sealed and storing them in closets. More than enough to meet demand. So yeah I don’t think this market has legs. The whole thing feels like a house of…well, cards.
Agreed 97%.. I think my only Counter is that it depends on expectations… people want to get rich.. but realistically if you bought in at $95 and can sell it for $150, it’s still a “decent” return.. or at least not a loss (minus fees, taxes, shipping etc.).. once stuff is no longer on shelves gotta assume the value of the product won’t necessarily go below msrp anymore.. so you can make $10-30 on each box or can hope there is a box that skyrockets and you make $1000 on it.. Where I think people will get screwed is buying up stuff like evolving skies at 7-800$ a box.. and thinking it’ll be $5000 at some point. It “could” but I don’t think that particular risk is worth it with current print numbers.
I think being around or seeing lots of content where people hoard sealed product makes it seem like there are more investors than there actually is. Sealed product is a drop in the ocean compared to what's been ripped already. The future generations who will want to open/ purchase sealed stuff are still in school and will want to have these cards decades later. You can even see SwSh products rising in real time despite being modern. I don't doubt modern will never reach base set prices but it'll definitely increase over time to the point where some smart investments can return some profit.
@@PMTCards $95-150, then less selling expense of 15-20%, is your profit, then divide by the time to aquire, then sell, and your "profit" is not that exciting. Also hard to do this at scale due to time involved.
@@theboringchannel2027 I get it, but I think where people that live by “investing” in Pokemon.. lets say you bought a case of each set. That’s 6 booster boxes of each. There has historically been 2-3 sets that barely move and 1-3 sets that go to the moon. My point is, if you have the money and space to let it just sit, once a set is out of print.. it’s very very very unlikely you won’t be able to unload it for at least msrp (outside of a major turn in the market). However, you will have a set that rose 40%, another 20% and another 2000%. You’re kinda hoping for the home run, but the “smart” way of doing this is to just buy all sets..but that’ll mean you bought less of the home run set.. But that’s just like the stock market.. very hard to time the bottom and top, some People get lucky, most just spread it all out and take smaller gains. My biggest concern is people doing this INSTEAD of traditional investments. If you have an Ira or 401k or pension that you contribute max too, and this is something you do for fun.. 👍🏽👍🏽 it’s people hoarding evolving skies thinking it’s gonna let them retire early that concerns me. Of course they might hit the lotto with that say.. but also.. they might not
Really good video! Thanks man I always find that I learn something when watching your videos. Really amazing content! I often use your advices and I especially like everything you said about keeping a sensible budget for this hobby!
@@phillips.collectibles haha golden. Yeah mate, not only are your videos informative, you’re an Aussie. So when you speak about price, or anything for that matter, it’s coming from an Australian perspective. So instead of watching an international content creator and having to go elsewhere where to look up certain things, i can just come here 🤙🏻 Hope your channel kicks off mate, seems to be heading in the right direction.
I think the Classic collection they released late last year might be the first product that doesn't rise above retail in 5 years 😂That thing was wildly overpriced!
This is great to learn. Its important to be able to sit on this stuff and let it grow. Overtime it will go up as it is not reprinted again. Yeah alot of people have ir but aome may sell for various reasons over time....buying house, emergency, marriage, etc. If you can avoid selling ur items throufh that it will continue growth. Also, targeting certain items (boosters, sleeved packs, 3 pack blisters) helps eith your goals too
Pokémon is an incredible investment option in my opinion. The cyclical nature of the sets and generations are so much fun! I started really collecting in 2020 and have witnessed this happen thus far. Still pretty new but have really enjoyed the buy and hold aspect, along with grading, ripping and trading 😊
Just started collecting since being introduced to base set in 2000. Stumbled across your channel and loving all the well thought out and level headed insights you share through your videos! Subscribed and can’t wait to see this channel grow organically. Thank you for sharing all your valuable experiences and thoughts! 👊🏻🔥
Great video, banger content as always! Another mistake that I'm currently experiencing is 'getting high off your own supply' aka opening up your sealed items because it is just so fun to do! I invested in some crown zenith etb cases a while back, but that set is just so fun to open 😅 What I now usually do is allocating a specific portion to open over time, which should be covered by the remaining products going up in value over the years.
im not sure why you put so much emphasis on sealed products. singles are by far the safer more stable investment. when you buy sealed with the intention of opening it (and lets face it, opening is the end goal, eventually all sealed will become opened one day) you arent guaranteed a return, but when you buy a single card you know the worth of your investment immediately. sealed also takes up 10,000% more space, and space is becoming scarcer and scarcer these days. imagine you bought an evolutions booster box for $1000 and didnt pull the zard. the next best card is like $40. hell, even the zard is sub 100. youre not giving great advice to us by telling us we should bank on sealed product.
I had people laugh at me when i bought a bunch of Rebel Clash booster boxes for $180 a piece, I believe it is going to be the shortest printed set of SW&SH and nobody that i know is holding sealed. Also everyone thinks Vivid Voltage is trash right now but give it 3 more years and we will see where it lands.
With all due respect, how many did you purchase? I’d love to see your inventory. If you purchased only a small amount the S&P 500 would seem like the obvious choice.
Solid rules to abide by, and a great intro into collectible investing! The timeline idea is my personal favorite, you can’t be greedy with immediate gains when it comes to this stuff. Patience is so key Keep up the great work man!
This video was great, Phil! I had my little brother watching with me, and again, I got the "he's talking about Pokemon!?" Haha. I particularly agree strongly on the sealed items being the only true investments while cards are a slight gamble. I think of the Moonbreon in this scenario as it was a $600 when I pulled it, dropped down to $450, and then obviously the increase to $1000, with the current/eventual stabilizer at $800ish. This is a prime example on the type of anxiety and stress pokemon can cause if you're throwing your money in on a few big cards here and there. Obviously there are better examples of high-grade cards, but you get the point. I like sealed because of the comfort it gives me knowing it really will never drop.
Do you know of a good place to buy boxes of Japanese 151? I live in western Australia, looking to dip my feet into it now that it has gone quite low in price - plus finding english 151 is ridiculous here ATM 😅
I’ll forever kick myself for not buying the Magikarp from Paldea Evolved before it blew up. It was obvious that card was going to be the chase of the set.
When I got in around 2018 I bought and opened a lot if late sun and moon, then I went on to go very hard during early sword and shield, I kept saying to myself I would buy a few vintage packs but I kept putting it off, then the boom hit in 2020 and it was too late.
Bought a sealed box of battle city for £90 in covid 2020 knowing it was difficult to get hold of and got bored one night and opened it all 😂 now you can only find it fot between 400-900 🤣 still had a great night opening it that day and if it continues to go up atleast I get to say I opened a whole box of that once 😂
Pokemon has entered the "Junk Wax Phase" with the massive overprinting occuring. This will have a negative effect in the long run, just like it happened with baseball cards. Unopened from the late 80's and 90's are barely worth today, what they cost 30-40 years ago. I've been in pokemon since the late 90's, what is happening right now is clear to see for those with long experience. Also so so many people laying down boxes today, compared to 10 or 20 years ago in Pokemon.
So in other words you wouldnt buy modern? Any ideas as to which sets are printed to much? Im in it just to collect and really want the giratina alt art, could not care less if i own an expensive card or not i just like the art and pokemon. Im concidering waiting years to buy if it can save me thousands of dollars. Concidering just pulling the trigger on that card now. What do you think?
@@ThaImpatientGuy if YOU think the market is going down wait, if YOU think the market is going up, then buy now. Your money, your call. I gave you my opinion already, and you can look at price history charts and decide.
Do any versions of those TCG charts that everyone references get adjusted for inflation? Just wondering if anyone has taken a look into it. If not, it could create some false impressions of the gains/buyingpower people are actually getting, especially for people that hold for many years. I'd be interested to hear you discuss that kind of stuff in a future video. Looking at the current charts, the products are generally rising in value over time, that's clear. But what I almost never see talked about is a comparison of that rise in the product value vs inflation/devaluation of the dollar (or whatever currency). I'd rather make $100 from selling a card in 2014 than $100 from selling a card in 2024, because the dollar was stronger in the past than it is now, so that money had more buying power. That applies to any investment of course, not exclusively cards. How "inflation-proof" something appears should be a factor people look at when picking any investment that's to be held, be it a stock, ETF, collectable. Also wondering about Japanese cards and Yen with regards to inflation, considering how that exchange rate has been.
Pokemon is In extreme bareish market. Sell your position while you can still make some type of profits. These cards are over printed. If a card is rare and only a few people have it. That card is a collectible if there are thousands and thousands of cards getting sent to PSA and pop report of psa 10s are rising. These aren’t collectible anymore if there are enough for everyone to buy 3. These are toys. Theres a difference between toys and collectibles. Your content is boring very unnatural sounds like Ai wrote your script. And you’re not being real and authentic to the viewers. Talk about other cards that are actually good collectibles. Not over printed and rare which hold value. Even the pop report of vintage is rising. You thought you had a 1/100 card then you find out it’s actually 1 of 400 psa 10. Honest comment open for honest conversation.
You can do both you know. Buy 3 booster boxes for example 300 bucks if you sell 1 at 100% profit at some point you have 66% of your investment back which can be put in other investments. Nothing wrong with cashing out a bit. Depending on the set afcourse.
@@newjones1754 Since I make a really good income especially considering my age, I'm not in a great need for an immediate return on my investments. I more so invest for fun. Sure, who wouldn't want to see an increase in net worth but for me it's both a hobby and a financial decision to just sit on them. Appreciate the comment opinion though. Always good to hear from others points of view. I think the decisions greatly depend on context.
My biggest mistake investing was at the beginning. I'd just search for any products that were on sale/ well below retail rather than good high quality stuff like sealed booster boxes. I stocked up on a bunch of ancillary items that, even though will probaby go up in value overtime, aren't as liquid and a pain to store. To echo one of your points, it really helps to invest in items you peronsally like so even if it goes tits up, at least you have something you enjoy.
Went to a card shop that opened near my work. Haven't looked at pokemon cards since they came out (1st three sets). We both fell in love with the new 151 set and even started collecting for our new born son. I then got deep into the investing information and decided to get a few UPC's to keep for a decade or 2. Now hearing about the reprint is kinda worrying me about a drop in price... guess we will see !!! 😅
Reprints are something you should ‘price-in’ with every decision you make!
I’m concerned about the health of this market over the long term. Much of this hobby is driven by artificial scarcity. EVERYONE is buying sealed product. The secret is out. So how can you say that sealed will be in demand 10-20 years down the line, when we’re all buying it up currently? We’re all sitting on 151 boxes. We’re all sitting on Evolving Skies boxes. This stuff isn’t rare. Vintage stuff has legitimate rarity because there weren’t a ton of “investors” back then. Now, everyone and their mothers are in this thing buying sealed and storing them in closets. More than enough to meet demand. So yeah I don’t think this market has legs. The whole thing feels like a house of…well, cards.
Agreed 97%.. I think my only
Counter is that it depends on expectations… people want to get rich.. but realistically if you bought in at $95 and can sell it for $150, it’s still a “decent” return.. or at least not a loss (minus fees, taxes, shipping etc.).. once stuff is no longer on shelves gotta assume the value of the product won’t necessarily go below msrp anymore.. so you can make $10-30 on each box or can hope there is a box that skyrockets and you make $1000 on it..
Where I think people will get screwed is buying up stuff like evolving skies at 7-800$ a box.. and thinking it’ll be $5000 at some point. It “could” but I don’t think that particular risk is worth it with current print numbers.
I think being around or seeing lots of content where people hoard sealed product makes it seem like there are more investors than there actually is. Sealed product is a drop in the ocean compared to what's been ripped already. The future generations who will want to open/ purchase sealed stuff are still in school and will want to have these cards decades later. You can even see SwSh products rising in real time despite being modern. I don't doubt modern will never reach base set prices but it'll definitely increase over time to the point where some smart investments can return some profit.
@@PMTCards $95-150, then less selling expense of 15-20%, is your profit, then divide by the time to aquire, then sell,
and your "profit" is not that exciting.
Also hard to do this at scale due to time involved.
Been in poke since the late 90's, you got it exactly right.
We have entered the junk wax era for pokemon in 2024.
@@theboringchannel2027 I get it, but I think where people that live by “investing” in Pokemon.. lets say you bought a case of each set. That’s 6 booster boxes of each. There has historically been 2-3 sets that barely move and 1-3 sets that go to the moon. My point is, if you have the money and space to let it just sit, once a set is out of print.. it’s very very very unlikely you won’t be able to unload it for at least msrp (outside of a major turn in the market). However, you will have a set that rose 40%, another 20% and another 2000%. You’re kinda hoping for the home run, but the “smart” way of doing this is to just buy all sets..but that’ll mean you bought less of the home run set..
But that’s just like the stock market.. very hard to time the bottom and top, some
People get lucky, most just spread it all out and take smaller gains.
My biggest concern is people doing this INSTEAD of traditional investments. If you have an Ira or 401k or pension that you contribute max too, and this is something you do for fun.. 👍🏽👍🏽 it’s people hoarding evolving skies thinking it’s gonna let them retire early that concerns me. Of course they might hit the lotto with that say.. but also.. they might not
Really good video! Thanks man I always find that I learn something when watching your videos. Really amazing content! I often use your advices and I especially like everything you said about keeping a sensible budget for this hobby!
I appreciate that!
Hahaha here because of your recent video, that was cheeky 🤣
Haha, you made me chuckle. At least you’re enjoying the content!
@@phillips.collectibles haha golden. Yeah mate, not only are your videos informative, you’re an Aussie. So when you speak about price, or anything for that matter, it’s coming from an Australian perspective. So instead of watching an international content creator and having to go elsewhere where to look up certain things, i can just come here 🤙🏻
Hope your channel kicks off mate, seems to be heading in the right direction.
Love the content. Channel is gonna blow up.
I think the Classic collection they released late last year might be the first product that doesn't rise above retail in 5 years 😂That thing was wildly overpriced!
This is great to learn. Its important to be able to sit on this stuff and let it grow. Overtime it will go up as it is not reprinted again. Yeah alot of people have ir but aome may sell for various reasons over time....buying house, emergency, marriage, etc. If you can avoid selling ur items throufh that it will continue growth. Also, targeting certain items (boosters, sleeved packs, 3 pack blisters) helps eith your goals too
Pokémon is an incredible investment option in my opinion. The cyclical nature of the sets and generations are so much fun! I started really collecting in 2020 and have witnessed this happen thus far. Still pretty new but have really enjoyed the buy and hold aspect, along with grading, ripping and trading 😊
Very informative!💯 Awesome vids mate you been killing it.💥
My favorite Pokemon investment channel
Yes same great info here
Great video
I just l,ove your videos my guy keep it up!
Just started collecting since being introduced to base set in 2000. Stumbled across your channel and loving all the well thought out and level headed insights you share through your videos! Subscribed and can’t wait to see this channel grow organically. Thank you for sharing all your valuable experiences and thoughts! 👊🏻🔥
Great video, banger content as always! Another mistake that I'm currently experiencing is 'getting high off your own supply' aka opening up your sealed items because it is just so fun to do! I invested in some crown zenith etb cases a while back, but that set is just so fun to open 😅
What I now usually do is allocating a specific portion to open over time, which should be covered by the remaining products going up in value over the years.
What could happen - too many investors, too few buyers, market is flooded in 5-10yrs and there is a crash.
Then i have alot of packs to open for cheap in 10 years 😁
@@newjones1754 sure, I’m just saying it could happen. I’m the same, I’ll be having one heck of a weekend with my kids 😊
im not sure why you put so much emphasis on sealed products. singles are by far the safer more stable investment.
when you buy sealed with the intention of opening it (and lets face it, opening is the end goal, eventually all sealed will become opened one day) you arent guaranteed a return, but when you buy a single card you know the worth of your investment immediately. sealed also takes up 10,000% more space, and space is becoming scarcer and scarcer these days. imagine you bought an evolutions booster box for $1000 and didnt pull the zard. the next best card is like $40. hell, even the zard is sub 100.
youre not giving great advice to us by telling us we should bank on sealed product.
That’s fair enough, i’m just speaking my perspective!
Pretty easy to understand. Collectibles are something you can see and enjoy and display. Stocks are boring but safe. Its more fun to collect
Love the channel! Didn't know Lost Abyss was getting a japanese reprint. Would love some cheaper shots at that tina!
I had people laugh at me when i bought a bunch of Rebel Clash booster boxes for $180 a piece, I believe it is going to be the shortest printed set of SW&SH and nobody that i know is holding sealed. Also everyone thinks Vivid Voltage is trash right now but give it 3 more years and we will see where it lands.
With all due respect, how many did you purchase? I’d love to see your inventory. If you purchased only a small amount the S&P 500 would seem like the obvious choice.
@@Speedysloth247 I purchased a case, live in New Zealand so S&P 500 doesn't interest me
Great video Phillip loving the content mate. I haven’t been any financial position to invest or buy much pokemon but do love the content 👍
Another banger🎉
I bought 2 evolving skies booster boxes at 200 bucks and opened both of them and pulled nothing before the boom. 😭Really wish i kept them sealed
Yep…we’ve all got this story!!
Solid rules to abide by, and a great intro into collectible investing! The timeline idea is my personal favorite, you can’t be greedy with immediate gains when it comes to this stuff. Patience is so key
Keep up the great work man!
Totally agree! Love your inputs as always.
This video was great, Phil! I had my little brother watching with me, and again, I got the "he's talking about Pokemon!?" Haha.
I particularly agree strongly on the sealed items being the only true investments while cards are a slight gamble. I think of the Moonbreon in this scenario as it was a $600 when I pulled it, dropped down to $450, and then obviously the increase to $1000, with the current/eventual stabilizer at $800ish. This is a prime example on the type of anxiety and stress pokemon can cause if you're throwing your money in on a few big cards here and there. Obviously there are better examples of high-grade cards, but you get the point. I like sealed because of the comfort it gives me knowing it really will never drop.
That is awesome! And exactly right. It will be interesting to see where the new cards go!
Do you know of a good place to buy boxes of Japanese 151? I live in western Australia, looking to dip my feet into it now that it has gone quite low in price - plus finding english 151 is ridiculous here ATM 😅
I’ll forever kick myself for not buying the Magikarp from Paldea Evolved before it blew up. It was obvious that card was going to be the chase of the set.
Such an iconic card!
Your content is top of the line.. You’re well on your way 🙌✨✨
When I got in around 2018 I bought and opened a lot if late sun and moon, then I went on to go very hard during early sword and shield, I kept saying to myself I would buy a few vintage packs but I kept putting it off, then the boom hit in 2020 and it was too late.
BANGER!
I see people get so angry with reprints. Like you said, if you expect it to happen then you won’t be mad when it does.
Just a normal part of the cycle!
Bought a sealed box of battle city for £90 in covid 2020 knowing it was difficult to get hold of and got bored one night and opened it all 😂 now you can only find it fot between 400-900 🤣 still had a great night opening it that day and if it continues to go up atleast I get to say I opened a whole box of that once 😂
Besides Japanese or English, are other foreign-languaged cards worth buying?
German
French, German, Dutch maybe even Spanish? although the price is a bit less compared to the english versions.
hi where do i check the historic prices of booster boxes?
Pokemon has entered the "Junk Wax Phase" with the massive overprinting occuring.
This will have a negative effect in the long run, just like it happened with baseball cards.
Unopened from the late 80's and 90's are barely worth today, what they cost 30-40 years ago.
I've been in pokemon since the late 90's,
what is happening right now is clear to see for those with long experience.
Also so so many people laying down boxes today, compared to 10 or 20 years ago in Pokemon.
So in other words you wouldnt buy modern? Any ideas as to which sets are printed to much? Im in it just to collect and really want the giratina alt art, could not care less if i own an expensive card or not i just like the art and pokemon. Im concidering waiting years to buy if it can save me thousands of dollars. Concidering just pulling the trigger on that card now. What do you think?
@@ThaImpatientGuy if YOU think the market is going down wait, if YOU think the market is going up, then buy now.
Your money, your call.
I gave you my opinion already,
and you can look at price history charts and decide.
Great video 😮
sorry to hear you sold Gengar vmax before boom, i bought it before the boom :0
Haha you might bought his. Gratzz on that banger of a card.
Well done! Great card
Do any versions of those TCG charts that everyone references get adjusted for inflation? Just wondering if anyone has taken a look into it. If not, it could create some false impressions of the gains/buyingpower people are actually getting, especially for people that hold for many years. I'd be interested to hear you discuss that kind of stuff in a future video.
Looking at the current charts, the products are generally rising in value over time, that's clear. But what I almost never see talked about is a comparison of that rise in the product value vs inflation/devaluation of the dollar (or whatever currency). I'd rather make $100 from selling a card in 2014 than $100 from selling a card in 2024, because the dollar was stronger in the past than it is now, so that money had more buying power. That applies to any investment of course, not exclusively cards. How "inflation-proof" something appears should be a factor people look at when picking any investment that's to be held, be it a stock, ETF, collectable.
Also wondering about Japanese cards and Yen with regards to inflation, considering how that exchange rate has been.
I would love a 151 reprint. Prices are getting higher and higher and i still wanna grap and open some more packs.
yo bro what camera do u use for recording?
Selling stuff right before it booms😂👋 It is what it is. You cant predict that sheesh.
Just hope it doesn't happen to much🤣
@@newjones1754 😶🌫️😆🤣
Part of the game!
I had no idea that every set besides astral radiance got a reprint, I honestly thought it was only like 151 and Vivid Voltage 😂😂😂
Pokemon is In extreme bareish market. Sell your position while you can still make some type of profits. These cards are over printed. If a card is rare and only a few people have it. That card is a collectible if there are thousands and thousands of cards getting sent to PSA and pop report of psa 10s are rising. These aren’t collectible anymore if there are enough for everyone to buy 3. These are toys. Theres a difference between toys and collectibles. Your content is boring very unnatural sounds like Ai wrote your script. And you’re not being real and authentic to the viewers. Talk about other cards that are actually good collectibles. Not over printed and rare which hold value. Even the pop report of vintage is rising. You thought you had a 1/100 card then you find out it’s actually 1 of 400 psa 10. Honest comment open for honest conversation.
Cry harder?
Not reading all that
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yep, I’m keeping sealed products for the long term rather than looking for a quick buck
You can do both you know. Buy 3 booster boxes for example 300 bucks if you sell 1 at 100% profit at some point you have 66% of your investment back which can be put in other investments. Nothing wrong with cashing out a bit. Depending on the set afcourse.
@@newjones1754 Since I make a really good income especially considering my age, I'm not in a great need for an immediate return on my investments. I more so invest for fun. Sure, who wouldn't want to see an increase in net worth but for me it's both a hobby and a financial decision to just sit on them.
Appreciate the comment opinion though. Always good to hear from others points of view. I think the decisions greatly depend on context.
What about stamped build & battle or Pokémon centre stamped promos to consider?
Pokemon center stamped promos are the best, like modern 1st edition stamps.
Love PC exclusives