Lakers CONTROVERSIAL TRADE for Dejounte Murray/Zach Lavine? | Lavine's Value + Murray Best Option?
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- The Lakers are looking to make a trade this offseason, but should they look in the direction of a Zach Lavine or Dejounte Murray? We'll talk about that in this video.
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Do you think the Lakers could/should take advantage of Lavine's trade value? And then how do you feel about another trade attempt for Murray? Comment down below!
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can you make a trade on Jonathan Issaac? He is a hybrid defender like Vando , would it be a good idea to Trade AR, if it meant getting him also? Same trade with Lavine and Caruso but also add Issac
- Lavine, Caruso, Isaac, LBJ, AD + 6th man Vando & Goga
Lavine worst contract ever, wouldn’t be surprised lakers FO go for it
cant make your Lavine trade , lakers need to send more money out then they receive (1st apron) , defo if Dlo opt in . Edit your other trade wont work for the same reason pls look into the tax aprons before doing this
No
The caruso Trade is worth it. Give em a first for that deal. Gabe rui jhs n dlo for lavine n caruso. That would be a crazy team. Caruso lavine vando bron AD with AR 6th man. That's a solid team
would you trade AR if it meant getting Jonathan Issac? I can see Caruso, Issac & AD because insane - like a young mobile version of Dwight and Javale - Vando & Issaac
@artworthi probably not. But we do need an upgrade at center. Hopefully if they get one via trade or mle. I don't think you'd need to send AR in a Issac trade tbh. I do think AR is overrated tho just a lil
@@artworthiIssac is a dpoy level defender but his offense and health are very questionable , it wouldn’t be worth it
Love the idea of Issac but he is way to injury prone to give up our best roll player for. Maybe if we got him and Gary Harris for AR
The key here is Dlo. If he doesn't up in, then the trade math doesn't work. But if he ups in or bulls want a sign and trade, then the Lakers should do this in a heartbeat.
Bulls don't want dlo
See those Dlo highlights you put up? See those passes? That’s why I still want him on the team. Put Mikal, Bron, Vando, and AD on the same floor they’ll be great
For lavine trades to have value, bulls need to attach a draft pick or couple of seconds.
The Lakers don't need ANY star players at this moment, they just need to focus on adding and expanding their roster depth, as well as their versatility for consistent offense and defense. Stars can wait, depth and balanced versatility is much more needed, and should be more important during the time in the offseason.
Well said.
We definitely need a center
You gotta actually watch the video. He said he would only bring in Lavine if Dlo was leaving and we weren’t getting anything back. You would still keep all of your depth by doing a Dlo sign and trade
@@DEEiBe I did watch the video, and I heard and replayed most of it, and as great as the 2 hypothetical scenarios sound, there still NBA Allstars, which is why I specifically said that ⭐️ shouldn’t be their primary concern; they should focus their attention on the overall roster depth by looking at the free agents who are available rn. Theirs a few steals that could make the roster entirely better and championship caliber in my opinion, and all have the veteran minimum as their projected salary; that’s about 6 affordable players that could add immediate value and depth for offense and defense.
@@babylonsouljah I feel like Andre Drummond and Dwight Howard would be good additions
Caruso | Reaves
Lavine | Christie
Vando | TP
Bron | Wood
AD | Drummond
This intro is so much better man. Keep it up!
I would love to see caruso come back, hes a great all around player. Levine is a great player to if he can stay healthy. In that trade i would also like to see another cheap big man, someone who can relieve ad and heavy enough to battle with others. Wood i feel isnt heavy enough to be productive in the center position. Even though the center post postion is something in the past. Yet there are multiple teams that still utilize it
dlo , rui , Gabe , jhs , and wood for Lavine and Caruso
Bulls not even answering calls from the Lakers 😂
The Bulls should be the one attaching draft compensation for that monstrous salary of Lavine.
D LO + Gabe + 2024 (17th overall) + 2029 First for Dejounte Murray pls….
Keep AR + Rui + Vando + Max
Need to get scorers and 3 and D role players…also a center
I'd be okay with trading for Murray. I'm on the fence about D'lo right now. I want to keep him, but I'm not sure how he'll play this upcoming season. Rui and Ar15 should be safe from trades.
both trades dont work , the lakers need to send more money out then they receive .... look into the new taxes
Your discord account has been hacked!!
Package of Rui, Gabe, JHS, DLo & Cam (opt ins) for Lavine & AC 1 pick gets it done IMO.
Doubt the Hawks will agree to the Gabe and Rui trade. I would love that deal though. If they sign CP3 and draft Yves Missi and Bronny. Imagine what CP3 can do with AD, Hayes and Missi.
Murray / Reaves / Vando / LBJ / AD
DVD / Christie / Prince / Wood / Hayes
CP3 / JHS / Bronny / Lewis / Yves Missi
Not Bad. Not good enough at the front court. I really want Johnathan Issac and Lauri. The above scenario is an easier one.
Does not need to be sign and trade. Could be opt in, then DLo Rui and Gabe. I would do that easy, and if it gets a pick then do it
We won with a 2 star model. The finals with Mavs, Celtics are 2 star models. Heck Denver last year was a 2 star model. What does that tell u? Check the Nets/Clippers/Suns teams
Bring back the Bald Eagle!!! Trade LaVine and Carushow for D’Lo and Hachimura for them. Add Hood-Schifino and Lewis to gap fill.
The bulls don't want or need them players
I like Caruso, 3D PG. hustle and defense.
Getting Lavine & Caruso without giving up reaves and multiple draft picks would be a dream
😂
Impossible without giving up reaves
Rui and Gabe + picks for Mikal Bridges
I dont want my team to pay a player 43 mil just to sit on the bench
LAuri Markenan & Collin Sexton... trade AR/Rui/JHS & 3 firsts. 💯💯💯
Let D Lo walk use the mid lvl or sign and trade for 2 way player.
Everything you said was 100% correct!!
what about AR for Jonathan Isaac? Isaac + AD are a defensive forward duo
@@artworthi what about D Lo instead... if Magic are rumored to want him, D Lo is a 39% career fg in the playoffs, he's beyond bad when it matters, Magic's assessment was 100% correct.
Does the money work in that trade scenario?
@@KIrvin_The_Scholar yes
As I understand the current cba the Lakers have to take less money back than the Bulls, meaning you would have to see sign and trade DLO and include Rui.
Bulls don't want non of that
Possible three way trade from hawks bulls and lakers a possibility ?
Anything is possible, but that does not mean it’s likely
We want be perfectly fine with Russell as a bulls fan Zach is not being traded to the Lakers
Lavine and carusho for Gabe, Dlo,christie and a 17th pick
Injury lavine
Money don’t match at all u gotta get VANDO in there somewhere
Rui Hood n 17 pick for Zack keep Dlo
Doesn't work with salary lil bro
We need that 17th pick to draft Kel'el Ware.
I’m all for brining a guy like Caruso back who plays his role and does the dirty work but why Lavine ? Clarkson ? All these guys don’t give us enough to even contend for a title .. why not focus on doing smaller moves and addressing smaller changes but 2-3 of them opposed to 1 bigger splash with guys who really don’t push us over even adding a Donovan Mitchell is cool but doesn’t guarantee we are even a final 4 team in the west ! More so focus on maybe giving Chicago Rui and 17th pick for Caruso .. Try lastly to use Gabe and Dlo for Schroder and Dorian Finney Smith ..sign Steven Adams now we have a lineup of Schroder Caruso Lebron AD and Steven Adams bench Reeves Max Christie Prince Finney smith and Vanderbilt
my trading views are diferent we need to go after a big, getting Austin out along with rui and hood for caruso and murray and go after a center athletic and defensive minded we good for next year. just imagined having vando and caruso with AD bron and dlo. defense needs to be a priority rui and austin got cooked by denver btw i don´t mind keeping gabe he is a good back up and his trade value is not great but i would trade him for nick richards and seth curry from the hornets, also alex len is a free agent lakers should go after him and javale, jaxson has 0 iq and wood would be good to keep
Resign dlo 26 million a year and trade dlo/gabe/vando/hood and #17 pick for Lavine and Caruso! Then go trade Austin reeves/Rui and 1st round pick for Dejuntae Murray
Murray, Lavine, Caruso, Lebron, AD (best starting 5 in NBA)
With Max Christie, reddish, wood, prince, Hayes coming off bench
Bulls not taking that 😂
Wow
Are you sure your hard cap info is right, I have always believed any team that aquires a player in a sign abd trade gets hard capped. ie,, if you are the team with player A's bird rights and you trade him to another team but aquire player B both teams. would be hard capped
I'd take Lavine in a heartbeat if it only costed a dlo sign and trade or Gabe. I want to keep that 17th pick and get Edey.
Kel’el Ware and Dalon Holmes are better value and more skilled
@@MrMinty827 you just don't like white people. If you haven't noticed, white players are quietly reclaiming the nba.
@@MrMinty827 white players are better. More crafty/ smarter.
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial seems like a fairly ignorant thing to say, especially considering that 65-70%+ of the NBA is black, and most of them are known for being just as smart and crafty, if not more
@@MrMinty827 majority doesn't constitute intelligence. Actually it conveys the opposite in most cases. The craftiest players in the game are Luka and Joker.
Lakers need a starting "Center" to pair with AD.
That’s not happening with Lebron there. Any Center they get will come off the bench
Lakers don't have enough money for those players.
I would much rather get Murray..40+ mil contract would cripple us for a while
Murray fasho 2 way guard n he younger Datz wat we need dey was going at AR in da playoffs on offense Cuzz Dey know he a weak link n trade any of these players: dlow prince rui jhs max jaxson wood throw any later darft picks for laters years none from these year n get Dennis cam Johnson draft a center n bronny but keep ar great 6th man like Tyler hero n also not giving up Jared or AR
I would do it if!!!.... we get Murry!😊 but we still need a CENTER!!!
Zach Levine wants to play along side Lebron which is the crazy part….why we wasting time on pressing the button n make the trade
Zach is good but hurt 2 much.
I kind of would rather have DeRozan and Caruso
Murray and Kuz
Lakers should keep their core together. No need to trade anyone
😅🤣😂
Honestly the team is not bad if they can beat Denver, that means Vando and a true big, if Edey can bang and hold his own against Jokic for 10-15 minutes, that can swing the series, Vando would need to hold MPJ which theoretically he should
Don’t trade Dlo fr, it’s not worth it
Coby White
DLO
DeRozan
Rui
Vooch
Might be a historically bad defensive lineup.
I imagine they’d go full rebuild atp and not bring back/trade Derozan+Vuc. But then again, the Bulls have a historically bad FO.
They're not going full rebuild with Lonzo coming back, they want the chance to complete, now if Lonzo sucks, yeah tear down the team
Keep Murray’s no 3 pt shooting ass away
Get a BIG in the draft and get Caruso back
Malik Monk would be more effective and economical than Lavine
Caruso Lonzo Drummond
Only trade I’m making if I’m the Lakers is Rui & Gabe for Caruso & Vuc…resign DLo…
Everyone in the NBA has been photoshopped into a Laker jersey
if Lakers trades for Lavine huge contract, they def need to ask Lebron to take less money
Bring on Zach then
I would trade for Murray more than Lavine
Get Caruso for gods sake
Lavine won't be able to play healthy the whole season and might get Injured again
Need to flip Austin Reaves into an actual good player; preferably a two way starter!!!! If ATL is crazy enough to give LA DeJaunte Murray for Austin Reaves you do it yet I don’t believe it!!!
As Austin Reaves held one of the worst team plus/minus in the entire NBA last season!!
He definitely didn’t contribute much to winning and only had one 30 point game the entire season!!!
Reaves is a good defender , he’s not a stopper but he’s a good defender and good offensive player
To put a stop to all trades that should never and more importantly can't ever happen. Here is the Lakers real situation as far as their salary goes and what they're actually allowed to do with it.
The Lakers are over the 1st Apron, there are 10 Teams in the NBA they cannot trade with because of this (because they are prevented from taking in more money in a trade, it has to be equal or less value financially) because they are also in the 1st Apron. If the Lakers use their MLE they are hard capped and can only use vets min, sign draft picks and re-sign players that's contracts are up this season and played for their team, among other restrictions. But here's the list.
*The 10 NBA Teams that CANNOT bring in Money in a Trade*
Lakers
Suns
Timberwolves
Bucks
Celtics
Nuggets
Heat
Golden State
Grizzlies
Clippers
The Lakers are Over the 1st Apron this means
What the Lakers can use:
Taxpayer MLE $5.3M
- Hardcapped at 2nd Apron if MLE is used.
Team becomes hardcapped at First Apron by or can't do:
- Using more than a Tax MLE out of NTMLE
- Using BAE
- Acquiring a Player via S&T
- Signing a Buyout Player that made more than NTMLE on previous contract
- Using more than 100% in salary matching in a trade
- Using a TPE that was created in a prior season
Now if the Lakers use their Taxpayer MLE they get Hard-capped at the 2nd Apron. What does that mean?? It means this.
- No signing exceptions
Team becomes hard-capped at Second Apron by or can't use/do:
- Using Tax MLE
- Aggregating two or more player salaries in a trade
- Sending out cash in a trade
- Acquiring a player by using a TPE that was used in a previous sign-and-trade
Can only:
- Re-sign own free agents
- Sign draft picks
- Sign players to minimum contracts
- Make trades where one player's salary is sent out and equal or less salary comes back (can do a 1-for-2 or more trade)
Take this all into account when you talk about trade scenarios or potential possibilities. The Lakers are in a position different than 2/3rds of the league because of their cap situation.
Zack is done
Get dejounte Murray
Wow why is the Lakers still trying to trade for Murray he doesn't want to play with the Lakers move on
Everyone does
He said that?
Nigga Yk him personally?
Says who ??? He litteraly posted he was waiting for a call just a few mos ago.
What makes you think he's doesn't wanna play with the Lakers when he literally gave every indication last season that he wanted to get traded to LA, even photo shopping himself in a Lakers jersey 😂