He tears apart a lot of electronic locks for having authentication on the wrong side of the door or vulnerabilities that can be exploited with a shim. Imho, The fact that he picked it says that it cleared the admittedly low bar for these types of locks.
@@bubifan Well, you could buy this one. Though I will say my 1st party Schlage smart deadbolt also has a swappable cylinder. Though it's only an SC1. :/ Other options are to look at some commercial solutions. For example, some where the deadbolt is not "smart", but there is an electronic release mounted into the door frame. Much more work to install though.
Generally positive comments from the LPL. Took multiple passes with a specialized tool. This lock is a winner! (At least, physically - we don't know about the electronics) Especially with the ability to re-core, this is the first 'smart' deadbolt I'd even consider.
Given that he didn’t show any exploits, at minimum the smart features can’t be easily defeated with tools or a magnet. So it really comes down to fingerprint sensitivity like you said.
@@CoconutMigrating yep. LPL doesn't usually skip at least mentioning obvious weak spots, so this looks good. Just looked this up online, and the prices range from "a bit much" to "quite reasonable." I'm in the market for a new deadbolt, anyway, so looks like my search is over.
don't know if he used the Lishi because it was needed, or more because it shows us viewers a better idea of what is going on. However, this does appear to be a very good quality lock, again assuming the electronics portion stands up to the test.
This one would have been significantly harder if he used cheaper tools. In this case he just picked it with an expensive tailored tool. It's a great video, I like the Lishy videos it's easier to see what is happening, but it makes picking look easier that it would be with a standard pick and turning tool.
"So we get a bonus for a longer video?' "Guys, lets make this lock hilariously bad so LPL will spend tons of time ripping us apart!" Or when a measure becomes a target, it is no longer a good measure.
Using the Lishi has three benefits: it allows LPL to plug his website and tools, 2) it allows the viewer a better idea of what is going on, 3) allows the LPL to educate the viewer, and 4) keeps the video to a shorter length - an LPL trademark.
Yep. Unfortunately most people have way more to worry about with their software security than their hardware security. Unfortunately, with the sloppy quality control on wetware these days, that's not likely to change anytime soon.
Just what I tought, it's so nice they do it that way because i'm really bad at lockpicking but thanks to bluetooth i could be inside in less than five minutes and i don't need to be exposed in front of the door 😂
It’s like the old joke The person who “likes technology” has everything smart: lightbulbs, door locks, security cameras, motions sensors, fridges, microwaves… The person who actually works in technology has a printer and a gun they can use if it makes a noise it isn’t supposed to.
I have a Lockly. Their touchpad design is genius and really shows they do care about security. What they do is you generate a pin and what they do is randomly scramble where the correct numbers are each time you use it. In addition, you can give temp pins for family or friends if you needed to let them in when you aren't home. Good to see that the cylinder isn't bad either. They are expensive but they're worth it. I have kids and the auto-locking after 30sec or so is great for me knowing they didn't forget to lock the door.
I guess, if they're not compromising on quality in either lock or electronics, it is definitely justified that it is a more expensive deadbolt. So a good starter point at a door lock that might stop someone with a rake, that can take upgrades such as a Primus core to really make it a formidable opponent.
"A fair bit better than I expected" and the fact that you can swap out the core for something even more secure if necessary means the makers should be satisfied with their work by the looks of things.
Seriously, a year ago I have had no interrest in locks whatsoever, until Your video was recommended to me. Curious mechanical engineer in me has clicked and watched it and I am hooked on Your videos ever since. I even opened few combination bike locks, which I was able to put my hands on and it was quite a satisfaction, when they actually opened. Keep up the good work, Mr. LPL and I wish You all the best. 🙂
You can always tell how pick-resistant a lock is by how long a video is, and I was pleased to see this result. Not bad at all for a consumer grade product.
@@jondonnelly4831 The Lishi tool is indeed a bit of a cheat code... And it took the LPL *four* passes to open this lock. That, I submit, is a pretty decent lock.
Except, considering that almost all crimes are inside jobs/someone you know, having the numbers to make a new key stamped in plain view when you use is is kind of stupid. It's extra work to cut a key, but walking up to a door, inserting a key, and going in is going to attract zero attention. Now think about how many times you hand your keys to someone, or leave them in the car at a car wash. Your address is on your registration as well, if they have access to your car. For something like a university or office building with 30 locks, this isn't a problem. For a home, though?
@Plekto's Gaming if you look carefully most of the home keys have no numbers except a few brands none that I use though also the smart commercial people use the more secure locks where if you had numbers it would be ok because so few people have the machines to make a new key to begin with also you make it seem like everything is an inside job not really its dependent on payout vs ease I've never had things stolen from me because I don't leave stuff that's expensive sitting in plain site in my car in a bad area,I lock my doors at home and put blinds up on the windows and don't leave expensive stuff like TV boxes outside on the side of the road also I don't brag i own expensive stuff to people that know where I live and I don't keep any large quantities of money laying around. My point is my dad's neighbor left a portable generator a few feet away from a secluded back alley behind their houses and someone driving down to go to the drug dealer down at the end saw it and said this would be easy and picked it up and threw it on the back of their truck and left and no one could identify the people or truck also my second point is a lot of break ins are in my opinion due to someone running their mouth to someone else who then tells the wrong set of people who then know what the other person owns in example if you say you have 20k sitting under your bed not in a safe and your a low level drug dealer you going to eventually get robbed because they know you can't do anything about it you can't even call the cops so to assume almost all crimes of theft are inside jobs doesn't explain the whole situation also the lpl would agree locks have two jobs one is to keep honest people honest and the second is to slow down thieves no lock is 100% secure there's a reason maximum security is only achieved with guards and cameras being actively on site with locks to slow them down and what I mean is someone could break into your house with you inside with a rock/hammer and then murder you and leave before the cops get there in almost all cases with the exception of cops watching also cars have no point to have fancy locks when the windows are so easy to smash and people can grab the stuff easily
I really like mine. I have the "pro." You can set it to send push notes to the phone when it is locked/unlocked, opened/closed, assign temporary PINS and fingerprints with or without restrictions. The keypad can be set to randomize numbers in sets of three (repeated every key press) to each of the four buttons making it very unlikely anyone can retrieve your PIN by watching you type. It also has full lock/unlock logs with details which would make it amazing for a main entry point to rental properties.
@@Hansengineering Again, easy for you to say. Have you tried? Have you tried with *spinning* magnets? Have you opened one up and found an actuator that does not use electromagnetism in any way? A piezoelectric actuator is technically possible but wouldn't come cheap. A wax hydraulic actuator would be cheap but slow to operate and slower to reset. See where I'm going with this? If you're going to make that assertion, back it up instead of just repeating it.
This is huge compliments from LPL, plus a solid pick time, I'm impressed. if the electronics check out then this is easily perfectly viable for most people's residential use.
There is a slight bevel or taper on the driver pins and they tend to hang up at the shearline requiring extra "nudges" to set. They are only effective in locks with close tolerances. Australian Lockwoods in the past had these beveled driver pins and they were harder to pick than spools. Not classed as security pins, but were fitted to allow a little extra wear on the key pins and key without the lock "catching" over time. Spools "tell" you when they are picked, and flat bottomed drivers will often "click" when set. Drivers with bevels in a close tolerance locks will tend to partially set "soft" requiring extra attention to clear the shearline.
As a landlord I have 5 of these and counting. Love them. Glad to finally see a review from the LPL. The only thing I wish it had was geofencing. User interface is excellent and the locks work well.
Nice that the lock core seems well done. I'm always leery of locks with multiple means of access. In this case, key, fingerprint, Bluetooth and the home's/business's 'smart' network. In my mind, that just gives four ways for someone to find the weakest link, not counting a smash-in or compromising a person with approved access. But then, locks are never designed to prevent violent entry or the compromise of someone who can open them.
I like the tip about the coding of the lock on the tool he used. That’s good information to have. Cutting a key from a number instead of calling a locksmith to rekey
Nothing short of a vault is secure against a hammer. Considering that the actuator looks to be on the *inside,* I doubt it's susceptible to magnets - at least, not from the direction of the most likely attack. Can't say about app security - that's likely no better than your phone security.
@@CharlesHydronium well, it can certainly be picked - if you've got the skills or right tools. I'd say - based on US crime data - that such is more than moderately uncommon. Phone app is probably the most likely electronic access, but unless you are *specifically* being targeted, also pretty damn uncommon. Unless your phone has absolutely no security *and* is stolen by a burglar who is going to strike before you can reset the lock - oh, wait... I said pretty damn uncommon already, didn't I? 😉
The locking mechanism is on the inside, so you can forget about physically assaulting it without destroying the lock or door. BT/WiFi unlock is what I would be most concerned about as it doesn't take much to ruin security, especially when sacrifices are made for convenience.
@@lairdcummings9092 Solenoid-operated locks can be very vulnerable to a hammer. Not a destructive attack but an inertia or vibration attack. Far less likely to succeed on a lock mounted to a doorframe, unless the implementation is particularly bad.
I was almost afraid to see what you had to say because I picked up a number of these to secure some off limits areas in my business. They didn’t need to be super high security, but enough that it justified the higher price point of these locks. Glad to see they hold up well!
I personally miss watching you use the other picks. I understand this is free advertising for the tools you sell but watching you pick the locks without such an expensive and specialized tool is what really got me interested. I'll watch either way, but figured I'd share my opinion!
I though I might have to watch your videos on opening a realtors' key lockbox because I misplaced my key to the church I do the bulletin for. Fortunately, I found it. I would have hated getting arrested for breaking into church
I understand why make the videos shorter and that maybe most people don't care much about about the gutting part of the videos, but I miss it. For me it's entertaining and informative (I'm not a locksmith nor part of the lock sport community. I'm just a curious regular viewer that likes to learn and explore how things work)
What I would love to see is some kind of "best of" with all locks LPL would recommend as at least above average - padlocks, bike locks, deadbolts, ... And for me living in Germany Euro cylinders would be very interesting.
My front door dead bolt suffered a catastrophic failure about 2 weeks ago. Put my key in,turned it,and the entire lock cylinder just turned and turned. Tried to pull my key out,the entire cylinder started coming out. I heard pins dropping on the ground. Luckily I got my key out and got inside my house. Pulled the lock apart. There were pins in the door hole,a retaining clip lol. Springs. Omg. Yea,that lock died lol. Oh man. I'm just glad I was able to get inside because it did unlock the door it just kept turning lol. It was old.
I’m an electrician and when I upgrade a panel and service older meter cans come with a carbon steel lock ring(barrel lock) that I wish you try. I literally have to cut it with a grinder and just destroy it to remove it.
I love your videos, and they info contained in them. Honestly though, a pick proof deadbolt is the least of security concerns when the average thief simply kicks open the door. Money would be better spent on well built door rather than a pick-proof lock. But I love watching anyway.
I have more than a little deeper knowledge on the subject, and you're right. Which is why I'm not the least bit worried about the plain-jane Kwiksets securing my doors; it's everything else around them that matters most.
For residential locks like this, all we can expect of the physical lock is that it isn't worse than what the homeowner had before, and this certainly seems to fit the bill. But there's a second issue: are there any flaws in the electronic gadgetry that make the system more vulnerable than a physical lock? It might be neat to do a follow-up where LPL looks at attacking this with magnets, pounding a screwdriver through the fingerprint sensor, that kind of thing. If there's no obvious problems on the electronic side, this sounds like a great product!
Did anyone else go find an original key and look at the numbers on the back and finally understand what they are? Just me? I’m okay with that. I honestly never knew that. Never tried picking a lock, either. I’m just here because these videos are cool and I’m hoping I’m learning the theory so if I do try to pick locks at some point? I’ll understand what I’m trying to do. Cheers to LPL for a great channel. Thanks!
Same with the last one someone gifted you, it would be nice to see how the rest of it holds up. The core can be changed if it's the weak link and you could make a mediocre lock a great one. This is kinda like reviewing a car with a flat tire and saying the whole thing is junk.
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So refreshing to see a product described as "above average" by the LPL on a regular consumer device. Not perfect, but clearly a good place to start!
Considering how bad the average is, it isn't really saying that much.
I guess “above average” in this case means 90 seconds instead of 10 seconds.
He tears apart a lot of electronic locks for having authentication on the wrong side of the door or vulnerabilities that can be exploited with a shim. Imho, The fact that he picked it says that it cleared the admittedly low bar for these types of locks.
So how can I find a good, well above average smart lock for my front door?
@@bubifan Well, you could buy this one. Though I will say my 1st party Schlage smart deadbolt also has a swappable cylinder. Though it's only an SC1. :/ Other options are to look at some commercial solutions. For example, some where the deadbolt is not "smart", but there is an electronic release mounted into the door frame. Much more work to install though.
Generally positive comments from the LPL.
Took multiple passes with a specialized tool.
This lock is a winner!
(At least, physically - we don't know about the electronics)
Especially with the ability to re-core, this is the first 'smart' deadbolt I'd even consider.
Given that he didn’t show any exploits, at minimum the smart features can’t be easily defeated with tools or a magnet. So it really comes down to fingerprint sensitivity like you said.
@@CoconutMigrating yep.
LPL doesn't usually skip at least mentioning obvious weak spots, so this looks good.
Just looked this up online, and the prices range from "a bit much" to "quite reasonable."
I'm in the market for a new deadbolt, anyway, so looks like my search is over.
And yes, 'layered defenses;' my primary defense remains my big, loud, noisy dog pack.
don't know if he used the Lishi because it was needed, or more because it shows us viewers a better idea of what is going on. However, this does appear to be a very good quality lock, again assuming the electronics portion stands up to the test.
isn't it easy to just cut the wire and short it or something?
the sole fact that one can re-core that lock is already significant, would love to see a follow-up about the electronics part
Agreed
I can't speak on behalf of the security aspect of the app, but the user interface of the app is great!
Yeah, hopefully it takes more than a strong magnet do spoof an unlock signal the the electromechanics...
Exactly what I came to say.
I can imagine that lock manufacturers compensation packages include bonuses based on LPL video length.
So folks at Master Lock get pay cuts? 🤣🤣🤣
This one would have been significantly harder if he used cheaper tools. In this case he just picked it with an expensive tailored tool. It's a great video, I like the Lishy videos it's easier to see what is happening, but it makes picking look easier that it would be with a standard pick and turning tool.
"So we get a bonus for a longer video?'
"Guys, lets make this lock hilariously bad so LPL will spend tons of time ripping us apart!"
Or when a measure becomes a target, it is no longer a good measure.
Using the Lishi has three benefits: it allows LPL to plug his website and tools, 2) it allows the viewer a better idea of what is going on, 3) allows the LPL to educate the viewer, and 4) keeps the video to a shorter length - an LPL trademark.
So does it really matter. This is a solid evaluation.
"Almost like Bolting your microwave panel to your front Door" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Every tech savvy person flinched when you said "Bluetooth or WiFi". This lock is probably easier to hack than pick.
Yep. Unfortunately most people have way more to worry about with their software security than their hardware security. Unfortunately, with the sloppy quality control on wetware these days, that's not likely to change anytime soon.
Just what I tought, it's so nice they do it that way because i'm really bad at lockpicking but thanks to bluetooth i could be inside in less than five minutes and i don't need to be exposed in front of the door 😂
It’s like the old joke
The person who “likes technology” has everything smart: lightbulbs, door locks, security cameras, motions sensors, fridges, microwaves…
The person who actually works in technology has a printer and a gun they can use if it makes a noise it isn’t supposed to.
Prove it is actually easy to hack or stop spreading FUD.
@@fashnek This exact model was hacked before and some of the bugs exploited come from the communication protocols used not the lock itself.
I have a Lockly. Their touchpad design is genius and really shows they do care about security. What they do is you generate a pin and what they do is randomly scramble where the correct numbers are each time you use it. In addition, you can give temp pins for family or friends if you needed to let them in when you aren't home.
Good to see that the cylinder isn't bad either. They are expensive but they're worth it. I have kids and the auto-locking after 30sec or so is great for me knowing they didn't forget to lock the door.
Thats good. Because on touch pads and even some phones, you can see the areas that are used the most
You’re discussing a different model than this one, yeah?
@@Raraoolala Yeah
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Got that RuneScape bank pin security
I guess, if they're not compromising on quality in either lock or electronics, it is definitely justified that it is a more expensive deadbolt.
So a good starter point at a door lock that might stop someone with a rake, that can take upgrades such as a Primus core to really make it a formidable opponent.
Just looked this product up online; prices range from 'quite reasonable' to 'a bit much.'
This vid may clear a few shelves.
Isn't the Primus core the one used to secure Winona's Big Brown Beaver?
@@HariSeldon913 lol
@@HariSeldon913 no, I'm pretty sure that was cyclone fence...
@@HariSeldon913 This is the one situation where Primus doesn't suck. ;)
"A fair bit better than I expected" and the fact that you can swap out the core for something even more secure if necessary means the makers should be satisfied with their work by the looks of things.
The security is compromised by the inherent insecurity of Bluetooth, or the effects of a big magnet on the internal solenoid.
Seriously, a year ago I have had no interrest in locks whatsoever, until Your video was recommended to me. Curious mechanical engineer in me has clicked and watched it and I am hooked on Your videos ever since.
I even opened few combination bike locks, which I was able to put my hands on and it was quite a satisfaction, when they actually opened.
Keep up the good work, Mr. LPL and I wish You all the best. 🙂
How can we get some tools of this ?
I was the same 4 years ago, be careful. The rabbit hole can be entertainingly deep
Hahaha I feel you, I got 2 kits and I love finding abandoned locks 🔒
I am actually looking forward to falling inside of this rabbit hole. 😀
I believe that is the most positive review of an electronic lock on this channel so far.
That would be enough for me to buy one if needed it.
It's certainly head and shoulders above *every single* fingerprint padlock that has ever been seen on this channel.
You can always tell how pick-resistant a lock is by how long a video is, and I was pleased to see this result. Not bad at all for a consumer grade product.
Except if there's squire in the title. In that case it's how physicly resistent the look is
Depends on what tool he uses to pick it. The leechee tool is a cheat code. Ordinary picking would be much harder and video would have been longer.
@@jondonnelly4831 The Lishi tool is indeed a bit of a cheat code... And it took the LPL *four* passes to open this lock.
That, I submit, is a pretty decent lock.
Somehow I never realized that the numbers on the backs of some keys were the cut depths to make a new key cool
Except, considering that almost all crimes are inside jobs/someone you know, having the numbers to make a new key stamped in plain view when you use is is kind of stupid.
It's extra work to cut a key, but walking up to a door, inserting a key, and going in is going to attract zero attention.
Now think about how many times you hand your keys to someone, or leave them in the car at a car wash. Your address is on your registration as well, if they have access to your car.
For something like a university or office building with 30 locks, this isn't a problem. For a home, though?
@Plekto's Gaming if you look carefully most of the home keys have no numbers except a few brands none that I use though also the smart commercial people use the more secure locks where if you had numbers it would be ok because so few people have the machines to make a new key to begin with also you make it seem like everything is an inside job not really its dependent on payout vs ease I've never had things stolen from me because I don't leave stuff that's expensive sitting in plain site in my car in a bad area,I lock my doors at home and put blinds up on the windows and don't leave expensive stuff like TV boxes outside on the side of the road also I don't brag i own expensive stuff to people that know where I live and I don't keep any large quantities of money laying around. My point is my dad's neighbor left a portable generator a few feet away from a secluded back alley behind their houses and someone driving down to go to the drug dealer down at the end saw it and said this would be easy and picked it up and threw it on the back of their truck and left and no one could identify the people or truck also my second point is a lot of break ins are in my opinion due to someone running their mouth to someone else who then tells the wrong set of people who then know what the other person owns in example if you say you have 20k sitting under your bed not in a safe and your a low level drug dealer you going to eventually get robbed because they know you can't do anything about it you can't even call the cops so to assume almost all crimes of theft are inside jobs doesn't explain the whole situation also the lpl would agree locks have two jobs one is to keep honest people honest and the second is to slow down thieves no lock is 100% secure there's a reason maximum security is only achieved with guards and cameras being actively on site with locks to slow them down and what I mean is someone could break into your house with you inside with a rock/hammer and then murder you and leave before the cops get there in almost all cases with the exception of cops watching also cars have no point to have fancy locks when the windows are so easy to smash and people can grab the stuff easily
Wow, this actually seems like a pretty good home smart lock.
I really like mine. I have the "pro." You can set it to send push notes to the phone when it is locked/unlocked, opened/closed, assign temporary PINS and fingerprints with or without restrictions. The keypad can be set to randomize numbers in sets of three (repeated every key press) to each of the four buttons making it very unlikely anyone can retrieve your PIN by watching you type. It also has full lock/unlock logs with details which would make it amazing for a main entry point to rental properties.
LPL: "much better than i expected"
Lockly: "holy sheet, he liked it?"
"...a fair bit better than i expected" is the correct quote :)
Someone always has to make a stupid comment. It's getting old real fast. Don't see the humor, your post makes you stupid. LPL LOL HOLY SHEET.
Clicked faster than LPL can unlock a lock.
Impossible unless...
That’s a world record sir
Very impressive
The unobtrusive design is something that I would value more than the pick resistance for a lock like this
Is this susceptible to the magnet attack that defeats a lot of electronic locks?
No.
@@Hansengineering Easy to say. But even if it's driven by a motor rather than a solenoid, LPL has spinning magnets...
I doubt it. Seems like LPL would have checked that and would have said if it was.
@@bdf2718 It is not vulnerable to magnets. Have a nice day.
@@Hansengineering Again, easy for you to say. Have you tried? Have you tried with *spinning* magnets? Have you opened one up and found an actuator that does not use electromagnetism in any way? A piezoelectric actuator is technically possible but wouldn't come cheap. A wax hydraulic actuator would be cheap but slow to operate and slower to reset.
See where I'm going with this? If you're going to make that assertion, back it up instead of just repeating it.
I love watching you pick locks
Locking picking lawyer should have his smart locks LPL brand. I would buy that lock knowing it's highly secure.
Awesome YT channel as always, Boss!
Lockly's stock price just shot up by 1500%
This is huge compliments from LPL, plus a solid pick time, I'm impressed.
if the electronics check out then this is easily perfectly viable for most people's residential use.
Great review!
I know he's kind of gotten away from teardowns, but I would have liked to have seen the shaped pins he was talking about.
He’s done a couple lately, right?
There is a slight bevel or taper on the driver pins and they tend to hang up at the shearline requiring extra "nudges" to set. They are only effective in locks with close tolerances. Australian Lockwoods in the past had these beveled driver pins and they were harder to pick than spools. Not classed as security pins, but were fitted to allow a little extra wear on the key pins and key without the lock "catching" over time. Spools "tell" you when they are picked, and flat bottomed drivers will often "click" when set. Drivers with bevels in a close tolerance locks will tend to partially set "soft" requiring extra attention to clear the shearline.
@@brianhignett8954 Well explained!
Very impressive lock. Lockly site also is quite professional and the range of locks, equipment, services and warranty they provide is commendable.
Your tools are a cut above the rest! Decoding feature is pretty awesome.
Hey hey, shout out to Dana. Cool to see other folks watching from my neck of the woods.
Looking forward to the classes starting sometime in 2022. It’s about time to start posting dates.
The first respectable electronic lock on this channel.
Great video!
"fair bit better than I expected"
I'm sold
Thanks LPL
As a landlord I have 5 of these and counting. Love them. Glad to finally see a review from the LPL. The only thing I wish it had was geofencing. User interface is excellent and the locks work well.
always awesome !!!
Holy hell, that stock core put up way more of a fight than these things normally do!
It took him more than 30 seconds with a very specialized tool. I don't know you, but I'm sold.
Awesome video!😸
Such a neat lockpicking tool. I need to add it to my set.
excellent!!
Wowowow! Electronic lock that actually has a reasonably good mechanical lock system? Much cool!
Nice that the lock core seems well done.
I'm always leery of locks with multiple means of access. In this case, key, fingerprint, Bluetooth and the home's/business's 'smart' network.
In my mind, that just gives four ways for someone to find the weakest link, not counting a smash-in or compromising a person with approved access.
But then, locks are never designed to prevent violent entry or the compromise of someone who can open them.
That’s a lovely looking tool.
That's what she said
"Punch above its weight". Feint praise indeed.
I like the tip about the coding of the lock on the tool he used. That’s good information to have. Cutting a key from a number instead of calling a locksmith to rekey
I would like to have seen the pins. Excellent video, as always.
Dang that still took a while. Congrats Lockly
Could have sworn he was going to do something with the fingerprint reader.
I wonder what other vulnerabilities it has. Magnet attack? App security? Hammer? Etc.
Nothing short of a vault is secure against a hammer.
Considering that the actuator looks to be on the *inside,* I doubt it's susceptible to magnets - at least, not from the direction of the most likely attack.
Can't say about app security - that's likely no better than your phone security.
@@lairdcummings9092 well, we're talking non-destructive attacks mostly
@@CharlesHydronium well, it can certainly be picked - if you've got the skills or right tools. I'd say - based on US crime data - that such is more than moderately uncommon.
Phone app is probably the most likely electronic access, but unless you are *specifically* being targeted, also pretty damn uncommon. Unless your phone has absolutely no security *and* is stolen by a burglar who is going to strike before you can reset the lock - oh, wait... I said pretty damn uncommon already, didn't I? 😉
The locking mechanism is on the inside, so you can forget about physically assaulting it without destroying the lock or door. BT/WiFi unlock is what I would be most concerned about as it doesn't take much to ruin security, especially when sacrifices are made for convenience.
@@lairdcummings9092 Solenoid-operated locks can be very vulnerable to a hammer. Not a destructive attack but an inertia or vibration attack. Far less likely to succeed on a lock mounted to a doorframe, unless the implementation is particularly bad.
I've sold many lockly products to customers that want a Bluetooth compatible deadbolt at a lower price point and I have never had any complaints.
I was almost afraid to see what you had to say because I picked up a number of these to secure some off limits areas in my business. They didn’t need to be super high security, but enough that it justified the higher price point of these locks. Glad to see they hold up well!
Good stuff, thanks
Lockly needs to add this to the front of their packaging:
LPL: 'a bit better than I expected'
Been needing something like this for my house I struggle with keys terribly but most are junk this looks at least passable
I learned that keys have numbers, thanks!
Must be a good one! Lengthy video!
LPL: "...bolting your microwave control panel to your front door."
Masterlock Designer: "Wait. I've got an idea!"
This lock with the pin hack LPL uses on his home would make it pretty terrifying
Hope to see some more videos on the unit
I personally miss watching you use the other picks. I understand this is free advertising for the tools you sell but watching you pick the locks without such an expensive and specialized tool is what really got me interested. I'll watch either way, but figured I'd share my opinion!
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I though I might have to watch your videos on opening a realtors' key lockbox because I misplaced my key to the church I do the bulletin for. Fortunately, I found it. I would have hated getting arrested for breaking into church
I understand why make the videos shorter and that maybe most people don't care much about about the gutting part of the videos, but I miss it. For me it's entertaining and informative (I'm not a locksmith nor part of the lock sport community. I'm just a curious regular viewer that likes to learn and explore how things work)
This seemed pretty darn good... (and with the ability to put in an even more-secure core, something I'll consider...)
What I would love to see is some kind of "best of" with all locks LPL would recommend as at least above average - padlocks, bike locks, deadbolts, ...
And for me living in Germany Euro cylinders would be very interesting.
My front door dead bolt suffered a catastrophic failure about 2 weeks ago. Put my key in,turned it,and the entire lock cylinder just turned and turned. Tried to pull my key out,the entire cylinder started coming out. I heard pins dropping on the ground. Luckily I got my key out and got inside my house. Pulled the lock apart. There were pins in the door hole,a retaining clip lol. Springs. Omg. Yea,that lock died lol. Oh man. I'm just glad I was able to get inside because it did unlock the door it just kept turning lol. It was old.
I’m an electrician and when I upgrade a panel and service older meter cans come with a carbon steel lock ring(barrel lock) that I wish you try. I literally have to cut it with a grinder and just destroy it to remove it.
I've watched a lot of videos by LPL, this guy is a genius. His knowledge on locks is probably unmatched.
You think the 4 million subs don't know that?
Lockpick Lawyer - party at my house tonight. Yes, don't worry the doors will be locked.
One of the few channels on CZcams with a warm non toxic community in the comment section
CEO of Lockly: "this will be a good year"
Him not mentioning the electronics side leads me to believe that this lock doesn’t any faults of the “unmitigated disaster” category
I don't know when I'll (or ever) have to use the Lishi pick tool, but I'm buying it now!
I love your videos, and they info contained in them. Honestly though, a pick proof deadbolt is the least of security concerns when the average thief simply kicks open the door.
Money would be better spent on well built door rather than a pick-proof lock.
But I love watching anyway.
I have more than a little deeper knowledge on the subject, and you're right. Which is why I'm not the least bit worried about the plain-jane Kwiksets securing my doors; it's everything else around them that matters most.
Champagne is flowing at Lockly this morning.
LPL reminds me of Steve1989 entertaining & hypnotic rabbit holes of Locks & MRE's !!!
I don't get any notifications anymore thought you weren't making videos
Love
LPL: [...] above average [...]
Lockly: A BLESSING FROM THE LORD!
Over 3 minutes, holy crap time to get a drink 😊
You are truly lock makers worst nightmare
LPL- Better than I expected.
Well I guess this thing is gonna be backordered now.
whoa an electronic look that he didn't just open with a magnet is impressive.
After a ton of people buy this because of his overall positive review, next week he'll show you how to open the electronic part with a magnet
I'm waiting to see one of these tools used in a thief movie, just to add a little more realism to the heist
LPL approved! Hurry and order before the price jumps!
Would love to see a collaboration with a hacker where you evaluate the software security of smartlocks like this.
Every time that tool is used, I want to buy a set
They’re just pretty expensive
@@markuskoivisto especially since I don't pick lol
LPL: “Above average”
Me: im buying this whenever ill need it
Lockly execs busting out the champagne
My faith in lock building has dwindled to nothingness.
Especially when you can just go thru the door frame 95% of the time
Or just kick the door in.
"Punches Above Its Weight" -LPL ... Woot!
Send that over to Deviant to explore the electronic side of the security.
For residential locks like this, all we can expect of the physical lock is that it isn't worse than what the homeowner had before, and this certainly seems to fit the bill. But there's a second issue: are there any flaws in the electronic gadgetry that make the system more vulnerable than a physical lock? It might be neat to do a follow-up where LPL looks at attacking this with magnets, pounding a screwdriver through the fingerprint sensor, that kind of thing. If there's no obvious problems on the electronic side, this sounds like a great product!
Did anyone else go find an original key and look at the numbers on the back and finally understand what they are? Just me? I’m okay with that. I honestly never knew that. Never tried picking a lock, either. I’m just here because these videos are cool and I’m hoping I’m learning the theory so if I do try to pick locks at some point? I’ll understand what I’m trying to do. Cheers to LPL for a great channel. Thanks!
"...better than I expected"
Lock sales go up by 10×
Same with the last one someone gifted you, it would be nice to see how the rest of it holds up.
The core can be changed if it's the weak link and you could make a mediocre lock a great one. This is kinda like reviewing a car with a flat tire and saying the whole thing is junk.
"Above average" from LPL - party time at Lockly HQ!
Man this is wild
Wait a minute! Did LPL almost compliment this lock?!? Holy Moly!
⚜️another fan from louisiana here⚜️