The best and greatest plastering tutorial in the world. Quick and easy how to plaster a wall.
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Plastering a painted wall. The quickest an easiest method I know leaving a great quality finish.
How to plaster a wall , ceiling
I have watched hundreds of plastering videos, am quite impressed with some but I can't believe what I've just watched. I totally understand methods change, speed skims, 'old school' plasterers stuck in their old ways and all that but this video has made me make my first comment ever! What on earth? Speaking as an ex-plasterer of 27 years experience, who learnt from my 'old school' dad and even I had to 'teach' him new methods and I'm going back to the days of Seraphite before Multi-finish came in, my dad would be spinning in his grave.
Quicker, less material? I could have put two coats on that wall quicker than messing about with a sponge float which drags great big areas off and then using it to 'wipe over' the dragged off area.
I once had the misfortune to work for a builder who kept every thing 'in house' so his blokes did the plastering. Doing a ceiling, bloke said 'That'll do'. Works out my second coat is better than their troweled finish product. I never worked for that builder again.
I've read the previous comments here (usual mixed response) and each to their own but Luke, I'm with you.
"Best plastering video" ? I think not.
No offence intended, I'm no 'keyboard warrior' but please, please, anyone watching this thinking that's how to plaster a wall, it's not.
Plus those awful lines left from the trowel during flattening in. Tidy the edge of your trowel up.
Well. If a plaster leaves things like that or gets pulled up, then they are not a very good plasterer.
Using a sponge alongside a 20 inch carbon steel trowel works very well. It’s much faster and I still leave a great quality finish that is flat and not just smooth. I’m 50 , went on site as a labourer for the 1st time when I was 13. Was doing my own jobs as a self employed plaster at 20.
If your up against deadline etc. it’s a great method for speed. You just have to get good at it to leave a perfectly acceptable finish.
I get away with sponge floating all the time. Just sharing my knowledge.
When I finish a job that I’ve just sponge floated there’s a huge line of painters and wardrobe fitters, I run down the line high fiving them all and we all cheer.
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@@mastersmurf74 Yes, totally agree with what you say "not very good plasterer" because they weren't. They were blokes doing plastering not plasterers and that's the difference. I got a call to do a ceiling they couldn't cope with it. Like I said, I never did any more work for that builder through choice. I was always busy if he happened to ring me after that.
On a bit of a lighter side note, although I'm older than you, we have a similar background. I was 8, 'going to work' with my dad now and then for a day out during school holidays. Remember those old fashioned , rear wheel steering small dumpers? I used to drive those about in clear areas. That wouldn't happen now!
Thanks for the reply.
@@GeoffAnderson-l5d yeah, thanks for your review, please do have a look at some other videos, like I say, in some circumstances I can get away with a doing float. How many times have I heard this one from the builder. Can you skim out this cubboard so the plumber can get in there and change the boiler tomorrow? Get it done now while it’s empty.
It’s like 2pm in the afternoon. Do you know what mate, I’ll 1 coat sponge it, happy days, I got your back mr builder,
Thanks Smurf,
No worries , I’m here to help..
So yes, please do have a look at some more recent videos Geoff. Not every job is a sponge float. Only when you can.
I’d appreciate your feedback back. 👍
I liked this video. It was clear and to the point. I’m a plasterer and if you can one coat and it comes out good I can’t see the harm, Quality mate.
Thanks for the feedback richard. 👍
You cant 1 coat and get the same quality@mastersmurf74
@@lukedruggan6839 I did a theory video on the difference between 2 coat and 1 coat sponge. Have a look. I explain the problem with sponge float. I can get a very flat acceptable finish with the sponge. I have never had a complaint. But sponge coat does have its limitations and can not be used in certain situations. 👍
@@mastersmurf74 dont trust a man who cant take advice if there cups full they never learn or get better your clearly a BEGINNER one wall at a time 😂
Tidy job, with the theory well explained
Well done
Look forward to the next one
Cheers pal! 👍👍
Best plastering video. Thanks
@@currentsolutions8467 thanks for the feed back. Only just started doing these videos last week as a bit of a tester, they seem to be going down well so I’ll endeavour to do some more detailed and planned videos soon. Plasterers in my opinion can get a bit stuck in their ways so it’s good to share things, for the beginner and the experienced.
Great tutorial vid smurf 🙌
Appreciate it!
Wow 😂
Joe Mangle….
Good vid pol👌🏻
Thanks
I would like to say to anyone reading the comments here that we all have our points of view/methods/that's wrong/right/ ways we have been shown 'old school' and adapted to 'modern ways' but politeness will never go out of fashion. Plastering is not an exact science. Yes, my initial comments were quite harsh. mastersmurf has shown his openness to feedback and yes, I learnt by my dad putting me in the cupboard, setting over sand/cement floating but at least this is a sensible chat and not a slanging match like other threads.
Again, apprentices who may be reading this- learn and get the basics right first - one of them being basic, polite communication when you are going for your first 'private' job. Don't be 'smart' to start with, you will learn the hard way. For the record, 27 years of hard, self-employed plastering has wrecked my back. I now work in a vocational college, not teaching plastering but more about work ethics. No matter what you may think about this video, mastersmurf has demonstrated communication, politeness and openness to other points of views. Learn from that.
Thanks Geoff. I did another video called plastering theory explaining what I think is going when between the 2 coat and sponge system, I talk about the draw back from sponge float as the strength of the material is weakened by the battering it gets from the sponge, I address his to limit this.
I also in the video and this comment totally agree that an inexperienced plasterer should learn how to do it properly and stick to the 2 coat before attempting to break the rules and get away with it.
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Many thanks Geoff.
@@mastersmurf74 No problem and the irony now is that we agree!
I remember doing a private job (whole lounge), had finished tidying up and had near enough put everything back in my van. The lady then said "What about this bit?" after showing me a narrow reveal in the hall which was nothing do with what I had originally looked at. My heart sunk but I couldn't just leave it. Luckily, I still had the 'dirty water' bucket so mixed up about a hawk full using that water. It didn't take long for that small bit to go off and she was extra happy. I'm well aware other videos tell that 'shortcut' for speed. The point being is that we all learn these 'tricks' with experience, it's just that doing that is not something for someone inexperienced!
All the best.
Indeed, I would just like to add, I have only been doing these videos for 2 weeks. I posted a video where we did a 105m2 ceiling, just me and my 20 year old son who is learning the trade.
I was very surprised at how many views it got in such a short space of time. So I did a search of plastering videos to see what sort of views they were getting. I thought I would have a go at one. The best and greatest plastering video, I called it that because of the song by jack black, the greatest song in the world. More of a joke than anything else.
Anyway, we just made the video completely improvised, sometimes I’m holding the camera and trying to plaster at the same time, I think that may be where extra trowel marks were coming from.
I was very surprised at how many views I got. But like I say, it was the 1st, and it just happened I was sponge floating the last walls in that small room.
With all the comment, I feel more enabled to put together more considered videos and more structured to a specific aspect of plastering.
So yes, all feed back is an opportunity to learn.
They say no publicity is bad publicity and all the comments for that particular video ultimately is recorded as traffic by the CZcams algorithm.
Again, thanks for the amount of time you have put into watching and commenting on my videos Geoff. 👍
@@mastersmurf74 Sorry to anyone else reading this- mastersmurf and I seem to have gone off topic, having our own chat and my posts are getting longer! Having said that, what we are saying is relevant to the trade.
In 2006, I worked for a good builder doing two houses each with a million pound price tag so everything had to be right. As we know, plasterers can't just stop because it's 1 o' clock lunchtime (apprentices, take note of that) so while others are having their lunch, I'm at the other end of a quite large room skimming a fairly large plasterboard wall with them all watching me. I started explaining everything I was doing- first, check for any screws sticking out, scrim all the joints etc, just as a bit of a joke and was getting quite a lot of 'site banter' back. As I went through each stage, the mood changed and one of the blokes said, "You could teach this." He said he had a video camera and why don't we film what you're doing and put it on this thing called CZcams. I politely declined the offer but with hindsight, maybe I should have done it? There were not many plastering tutorials back then!
I spent nine months on those two houses and other plasterers said to me "What the hell are you doing?" I have multiple answers to that! The houses were big, there was outside rendering, arches that had to be perfect, many curved ceilings to form which meant the setting had to done in one hit, a large ceiling which was too big to do from a hop-up so it took best part of an afternoon to scaffold it fully out to make life easier... many other factors. All this on my own - no labourer apart from a bit of help getting muck up for the large gable end.
On all the stud walls, door linings which were too wide were used. The carpenter decided it was easier for me to pack the walls out than for him to plane the linings down. I used 45 bags of bonding in each house, all ruled off and floated. Again, I'm well aware others say no need to float, just trowel it but I would never have been able to bond, rule and set it in the same day. I didn't complain- I was on day work so it kept me busy! I would also chip in with other jobs when needed like the day it took five of us to get a huge, heavy window up the stairs so nine months was a good run.
I actually documented that job, from start to finish, with over two hundred photos on a newish thing at the time called a digital camera. I sent the pictures to someone in America who was amazed that I put sand/cement on an internal block wall and then plastered over it!
I clearly remember my first ceiling with my dad. He said it's just a wall but it's above you not in front of you!! My dad was a very skilled plasterer but maybe not the best teacher! Again, advice to apprentices who may work with their dad: You will have bad days and arguments- it's part of the job. Oddly enough, six weeks before my dad died, we were talking about the early days. He said, "It wasn't so bad." I thought, wasn't so bad? There were days when we nearly hit each other over the head with a shovel!! Over time, I got better and quicker, dad got older and slower, didn't like new things (sticky scrim-rubbish!/ multi-finish - rubbish!) and eventually, I was employing him. Lesson there apprentices: You can learn and then clear off to your own thing or take the rough with the smooth (as such) and stick with the person who has been good enough to invest their time and effort in teaching you. Like that other Ytube plasterer says- You will spend more time with the person you're working with than your girlfriend/wife (or boyfriend).
With 27 years experience, I could go on here forever but I'll stop here!
For me, the passion is still there for young people to learn the trade and not give up because it's hard work.
Mastersmurf- keep doing your videos and sorry for such a long post here but you have been so fair in explaining your methods, reasons and knowledge.
Na Geoff, totally enjoyed reading it, and I can totally relate! Shae, my lad, youngest of 3 boys, he is doing well. I’m quite proud of him really, he is getting the right attitude to work. We get on pretty well on average. I have seen quite a few father son relationships on the job that are much more turbulent.
I pull him up sometimes and rarely voices are raised . Over confidence is his problem, taking on things above his skill level. But that’s also a strength as well. He can go in with out thinking things out, not leave himself room for error.
I spent a number of years teaching martial arts. I really enjoyed teaching and changing my methods to suit the pupil the best I could. Some needed building up, some needed bringing down a notch.
Teaching taught me a lot! 👍
Your trowel is your edge and your finish
I don’t understand why wouldn’t you put on more metres and two coat the proper way!! 😂
@@christophercutchey2793 just for demonstration, 3 easy walls left on this job
I forgot to say- I'll let you off about missing a bit. I'm sure we've all done that when a door has been open, hiding something or a bit lurking in some sort of hidden recess!
Thanks for the let off.
Ive used this technique a few years ago but went away from it due to ripples showing through ehen sunlight hits it at an obtuse angle..... light peeping round the side if the curtains in the morning was the worst. How do u prevent it? I lay on, fkatten in with speedskim, 2nd coat, flatten again with speedskim then 2 wet trowels and a polish. If i don't, i worry about it not being flat enough..... always interested in easier ways of working and this is an easier quicker method, less stress on the elbows.... but how u make sure its not rippled?
It’s that speed skim doing the ripples, especially if it’s a full plastic blade. I use metal blades. You can speed skim 1st coat but not the 2nd. It’s the straight carbon steel trowels that take the ripples out. Just before the end of the wall, switch to a stainless steel trowel. I use a Refina flex 2, also the nela are a good make. The stainless trowel gives it that smooth polished look that everyone loves. You can go carbon all the way but I’d say you need a well broken in one for that and kept in a good clean condition. Not like mine in this video, my carbon is very dirty , needs a good clean! 👍
I'm sorry to come across as so negative but I've now watched this multiple times. At 23.50, the dreadful trowel line which you are not too bothered about: "We'll get it next time". I would never have left a 'dig in" like that on my first coat, let alone the first 'flattening in/troweling up" stage. That is where the 'old school' methods seem to be skipped over nowadays. So many times, I have seen new plasterboard walls/ceilings just plastered straight over; no 'packing out' over the scrims first. Put a straight edge (of any sort) over the wall and 'pack it out' if necessary. That way, you won't get those dreadful 'dig in trowel marks. yes, you can trowel them out eventually and the painter will be pleased but the bloke who has to fit wardrobes or shelves won't. Trust me on that. It's like the other plasterer bloke on Ytube says: Longer to start but quicker and better at the end and I'm sorry but he's right.
Watch some of the other videos please, will be very much appreciated and I look forward to your feedback. Thanks for your honest opinions.
@@mastersmurf74 I will do that and thanks for being kind with your reply to my comments. Too much nastiness in the world as there is and the fact we can communicate here politely is good. Apprentice plasterers out there reading this- there's a plastering lesson straight away.
Broken leather
Loved that stuff! 👍
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SBR not PVA, sponge??😅
Yeah, works a treat
Whoah… just watched the rest of the vid… you one coat?… ffs.
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@@matthewgaler6544 that job I did. Honestly, the sponge float gives a great result. It’s quicker use less materials and the quality is good. I used to 2 coat all the time, but only if I really need to these days. 👍
must be around 12 degrees lol
That’s hot enough