I legit feel like they provide more than just "get gameleap", as a sub, we get detailed hero guides that teach us indepth hero mechanics. They also get us to experiment heroes we wouldn't consider being fun, by disclosing the way high MMR players see hero mechanics. Honestly, they deserve exclusivity over what they are doing.
6:00 - so you say that arcane Boots are Not good for Supports? what about Pos 5 omniknight/ ogre Magi/undying/ witchdoc/dazzle etc. who really need the additional mana+ flash Mana bursts? or did I get you wrong there?
People do NOT want to rosh and it really pisses me off. So many times around 20-25 I try to get the team to rosh but MOST of the time first rosh happens around 35-40. LAAAAAME
@@massdestric6945 don't even get started i had a ursa in my team who didn't go to do rosh until he died trying to go highground. While we kept telling him to get rosh earlier but his excuse was that he doesn't need it yet....
Ayush Gupta wow, I’m a ta player, so generally I rose alone at around 23-24 minutes. And I have a friend who spams ursa, so I can’t really relate there
Hi Speeeeed! Just want to mention that I've been winning a lot of games. It's really the basic stuffs you mention that push me onward. 1) Keep hero pools small, 2) Creep aggros and correct positioning and rotations, 3) Farming/Fighting prioritization, 4) Communications and having positive mindset (not being toxic). In about a month I've raised my supp MMR by 900 and core MMR by 500. That's a grand total of 1400 MMR. Feels good to actually know I'm good at this game.
1st tip is actually the best tip. i'm only 5k mmr and the number of times my legend friend said "it's fine, i'm only a support" is way to damn high. 10/10 guide
It's an extremely frequent occurance, that one supports the 2 or 3 role so well, that they feel overpowered and keep going solo and feeding. They leave the laning phase with 3-0-2 and end the game as 5-16-7. You get the point. So don't become too good of a support. :p
i do all this stuff in this video and more im divine 1 support and in general i cant win because i play with cores leyends 7 and ancients 1 2 and 3 and they have no idea how to play the core role. any tip?
Another thing about wards/vision in the fight, I see it all the time, someone like ck ults, everyone runs from him, and every time he casts reality rift the fog stops it mid cast animation. This situation 1 ward can be the difference between missing the kill or wiping the enemy team.
supp: what r u going to do if your carry doesnt help you proctect ur ward, and the enemy carry always come with their supp to deward or , how do you protect your ward if the enemy supp has back up when dewarding and carries blame supp for not warding.
glimmer is truLY BROKEN, as low bracket I learning to climb up the rank, it's hard but most support at crusaders bracket(I once included) rarely buy defensive item such as glimmer and force staff, it is a legit item to help your teammates, especially when they're over extended their positioning and I notice that buying those item could benefit them in their bad position, since that my support role never be the same I got more winning than ever and got more commend that I used to have. I'm agree with speeed. Thanks great video as always.
@@devilincarnarion It's not only that they can be used both for yourself to survive and keep playing and do the same for your cores while they farm their BKBs, Damage or whatever, but that they have a direct impact on the game. I mean, take a Desolator. Cool item, damage and armor reduction. You can kill faster and siege towers more efficiently... but what if your team just isn't taking fights? What if you are behind and it's not the lack of direct damage in making you be such? The same goes for some support items: they may not directly influence what's going on in the match. On the other hand, Glimmer Cape and Force Staff are ALWAYS influential. As a 5th I almost never skip Force Staff and I can't think about a single match in the last months in which I didn't buy the Glimmer even as 4th AND a 3rd at times. Really. I get it on Mars to tank magic damage and manuever around team fights if needed or just use it on my safe-lane core if needed. For 300 more gold I could have a Dagger? Yeah, but in those times I made the specific decision to go for the Glimmer and it worked out. Maybe as I climb I will need to give it up but it's such an influential item that I just can't think I shouldn't buy it in Solo.
I feel encourage when you said "check enemy inventory for wards then after moments the ward was gone" at 10:33. They saying "high IQ stuff". Been doing that but didn't knew that was high IQ stuff. *pats on the back *claps Thank you for the tips.
A non mentioned tip I got from WoW long time ago: Learn your rotation. What does it mean? You got to know wich is your initiation spell! I've seen so many CMs trying to frostbite from long range and totally fucking up the gank instead of just pressing Q. Same for SShaman, not even talk about SD. Do not go around like a headless chicken, you got to know exactly what are you going to do, and for that you need knowledge on cast ranges, mana management (bonus points for fighting under vision and/or with smoke) and nerves of steel. Back in the day, outplaying was all about reaction times, now its about perfect resource management and patience in the midst of chaos
5:18 "people dont buy dust" wrong, im playing in SEA and yes sea server is the most toxic af region BUT, they dont fckin forget to buy dust and sentry. seriously, buying shadow blade and mirana ulti is basically useless in SEA. i also shocked about this.
I am playing Support in Crusader and i am always buying brown boots and a Magic Stick depending on the lane and then RUSH Glimmer Cape. I am also always checking their Item and try to find out where the wards are. The only thing i didn't really got is the Smoke Gameplay and Positioning is also a big problem. Also i have problems playing consistantly i am playing some games really well and then i am throwing it the next game. I really want to get better and reach a new level of dota. My luck was that i am playing with Immortals and Divine players and i can hold on in those games. We get ranked against Legend V - Divine V and i can hold on with them. But when i played solo queue now i realised that this is not anymore my bracket. Although it is possible to carry as a support when your carrys are throwing the game by just going solo into 5 and saying, I KILL THEM ALL i always lose the game. I started now to play ranked on my 2. Account and got ranked into Divine 1 but i am really frustrated that the low elo is like a hell where you never can get out without good friends.
I usually buy mana boots for ss BUT I disassemble like 30 minutes into the game and get an aether lens and tranquil boots. Getting the mana boots is more efficient, saves me some gold and in matches where my friends needed mana in a team fight been a key item. I mean obviously tranquil is better. But not in the early game when I have mana problems
For low mmr/rank if you want to play pos 4-5 you need to make sure that you fall into one of these criteria 1)you hate yourself or you are a masochist. 2)you hate creeps killing. 3)espscially pos5, like getting gangbang by everyone in the match. If you're in one of those you have to - embrace carry's idiocy. - there are chance that pos5 just doesn't give a fuck and just went for core item instead of ward or support item. In this case just go pos5 instead - if you're lucky, ask teammates nicely and they'll buy wards, smoke, dust for you. - normally pos5 gives mid 1-2 tango at the beginning of the match not pos4. there are exceptions but this would be ideal. - force staff, glimmer cape, wards, smoke, that mana boots or green boots are your best friend, not your teammate. Buy them!! - as pos4 you may want to pick a hero that can fuck enemy pos1 and/or pos 5 up instead of ones that can keep pos 3 alive. - getting blame is part of playing support. Just don't get upset about it.
Man, I want to see your vods/gameplay. It would greatly help. Not that your regular vids don't, it's additional info to digest. Thanks my man, keep it up
I really have no idea what you're talking about when you say "people don't buy dust" (or detection in general) in solo queue. It's just flatly untrue. People DO buy dust.
No it really is true. Maybe in low level play the best player will get dust if he realizes he has too. but in high level play usually the 3-4-5 are carrying dust while the 1-2 jump on backline supports whenever possible. core players tend to try to maximize their 6 slots with stats and their future items/best items available/wand etc. plus as a 1-2 you will eventually max out 6 items and can not carry dust unless gem is apart of your build while you're snowballing late mid game which you eventually give away for your last item.
So, the item provides 50% magic resistance. 50%. And even if a core has to buy dust to kill you, at least you are wasting 90 gold of his. And in pubs, people do buy dust. But that's like once or twice. Late game they conveniently forget about it.
At the start of the video when the gameleap ad comes on. "Your team does not deserver your support..." - okay got it, I will write that down and go pos1 hard support
I do realise that I'm not using smoke mainly because I have no idea how to use them effectively. Another issue I have is I need to ward somewhere with no vision and enemies are not on the map so I'm in a cycle whereby I have no vision, I need to ward, but because I have no vision I don't dare to go and ward (most of the time when I try to I end up dying without doing anything)
Please make a video on offlaning. I'm an offlane player but I seem to get zoned out from lane most of the games due to my post 4 leaving lanes. I want to understand pos 3 even as a solo offlaner without POS 4's presence in lane.
supp leaves you coz u cant play carry u have zero mind games such as hitting and running to control the lane or so the enemy carry cant get close to the creeps. BASICALLY its your fault ur impossible to supp. or there are opportunities to kill in your lane but u stick to farming "farm lord"
Man, im like 4.5k player and I did literary every things that you mention as supp player. My problem that make me quite depress to claims my 5k mmr is no matter what, my range mmr is stuck beetween 4-4.6k. When my bad day comes I lose no matter how hard I tried, I just lose, and when i get my good day, I win game by almost doing nothing. and I just stuck in that range of mmr.
I've played support and only support for years and while I'm no pro, I do watch pro vids and I agree with everything except the shade on mana boots. Mana boots while you say is overrated, it's also a game changer when you have core who are mana dependent. Wands, bracers help with survivability but mana boots is a staple along with force staff and glimmer cape (unless they have a BH/Slar who spams detection).
sometimes, dont just tell. anyone can yap yap like duck. show and tell. dont play random clips, play the right clip to the right tip. show people learn by seeing actual examples.
Props to gameleap and speeed for all the efforts of making us all better players. I have followed speeed's training and advices, he pretty much repeats all lessons and emphasize to it because that's all there is to getting better. I have seen so much improvement in my gameplays specially positioning since I had the "victim support" mindset that speeed mentioned in the video before. However, no one really talks about how big of a deal bad teammates are. Kindly telling teammates to get certain items seems to be a pain in the ass since no one ever listens and will even get you reported simply by trying to guide your team to a victory. What I'm trying to say is all these technical skills and strats are useless if you are matched with people who cant think like you do. Seems like to win is to get lucky teammates.
heyo speed, can we play offlane pl? what do you think about the possibilities for heros for other roles in dota? because i am frustrated about people calling games lose from start because they don't get what we can do in dota for real, they don't even think i believe :(
In herald tier, u cant just trust carry.. some of these guy will just random pick, they dont mind if the enemy will pick PL then the last pick in our team picked sniper even we already have storm in team.. they dont know how to counter pick.. so i play support and core in the same way.
in herald tier the enemy storm doesn't know how to play storm and will probably die to the sniper who just a-moved. in herald, no one knows what they are doing on either team, including you. getting tilted in the picking phase in herald is the stupidest thing you can do because the enemy team has no clue whats going on either
Thanks that was helpful, although as someone who's just played a few Dota games, there's a lot of vocabulary and things that I don't understand, which hinder the helpfulness of the video. Eg, what's 'rosh'?😅
Rosh stands for Roshan, the large creep who is present in the roshan camp in the top right of the river. He is a really strong creep who when killed drops the "aegis of immortality" an item which lets you come back to life after you die
That channel help me a lot i go from 3.000 to 3.800 in a month but i see a lot of ancient players build wrong iteams hard supports go for midas and support build core iteam no support iteams like forcestaff eul's ghost ward or sentry ... And i thing my road is long until i have good games and enjoyed . sorry for my bad english .
I play sup now for 10 years, and I do all the Tipps you told in the video I stay in the back line I buys salve, Tangos clarity for my carry I ward I deward I block camps I stack camps , I buy glimmer forcestaff urn vessel Mekka, I Spam my spells ih there is a chance to safe my carry I gona die for him etc. Sorry to tell you this but as solo sup in lower brackets its a 50 percent chance to win. Play one day in 2000mmr section and you will go insane.
Dunno if the games I had timemachined me to 2015 or something, but people just spam crap load of support item like sentry and dusts now, event sod is frequently out of stock.
Usually lose in low bracket because carry refused to go bkb or is not smart enough to realise when to go bkb and all your supporting effort was in vain.
Dude you same as me😂 especially can relate when im carry my supp noobs fuck and when i support (my main role) my team was like bro go support role ahaha😅
Sea server player most of the things you mentioned in this video has been done by most support mains in SEA even up to the lowest bracket. The problem here is that everyone wants to play as a corem wants to farm until 60 mins. Nothing you can do to make them stop farming, and yeah smoking doesn't work some of them just continue to farm until ganked by the opposing team EVEN with wards in place. I want to post you a challenge, if you can please play in SEA server as a support and analyze what is missing from that server that would be great. Thank you
@@TruthbtoldMD supp push alone while carries jungle? if supp farms at lane and the carries are in jungle , supp will be an ez target for the enemy and u cant just deward u absolutely dont have help from carries.
I used grim in a ranked game once, we have lion as position 4. We were in SEA server We were owning the game, no one was complaining about anything. I bought ward, i spammed my skill, secure space, and so on. Then, this lion was complaining about my positioning, he said i need to get closer on a teamfight. I had aether lens and took the cast range talent. I died twice, and this lion died like 10 or something. He was still complaining even after we won the game, omegalul
I don’t agree that when you ping smoke every dota player comes right away. I find a lot of people don’t know you are invisible to wards when smoked. Such an important tool that is extremely under used. When smoke ping goes off you need to drop what you’re doing immediately for if you take too long the enemy should now the smoke gank is coming.
As a support player, this doesn't work with a Slark who cannot use Q and R properly. In short, even if you followed all 5 (and I believe I have been), this won't likely work out if the hard carries can't do their jobs in long game crucial clash. **sigh**
That's why you build defensive items, to save those shit Carries. If you can save your carries, they will hit more, they will tank more; and you and your carry will be able to cast more spells, which will eventually win you the fights and game.
Okay speed because of your videos people now buy dust in low mmr also. There are a lot of smokes used as well. Just wanted to update you on whats going on down there...
the thing about using glimmer capes in lower mmrs is that the fucking carry doesn't realize I glimmered him and continues to hit the enemy....omg*sad face*
Speed, can you please make a guide on how to play *together* with a demotivating toxic teammate? It's a team game and I don't like muting my own team but some players really make it hard. Flaming cause a support didn't give that extra *one* tango, demotivating and abusing someone with words when losing/making mistakes, etc. The usual SEA server stuffs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ya. AM requires time. So, no problem. But the fault is when the rest of the team can't understand that we can create space by fighting somewhere else by using smokes.
@@HarbingerGaming824 Its quite hard to do smokes on lower tiers, players are just all-around bad, you just have to accept that, they all think their playstyle will bring them win, because they don't know for something like smokes to exist.
But my carry magically stayed offline for whole game while got free farm and free kill. Deal more damage to creep than hero enemy, and no bkb when they have thousand of cc
That's 1 game. Only 1 single game. It doesn't matter. Play 1000 games with 51% winrate. You will win 510 games and lose 490 games. With 20 games different you have already gained 500 MMR. Now play 2000 games, and you will gain 1000 MMR. See the point?
Buy smoke... Stand in a safe spot Ping let's smoke for 2 minutes No one comes Watch carries get 5manned We need more WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRDDDDZZZZZZZZZZZ
Although this video is good and the guy is always to the point, it is MISSLEADING! You can't rank up as a support for more than 1-2k mmr as its not in your hands! If your carry doesn't get a bkb and feeds in late game for example or your mid player is simply bad the game is over no matter who you are. So in the end ranking up= mid/carry job. Always remember that ranking in dota is based exclusively in the impact your role plays. So in the late game 3 of the 5 enemy players will have BKB to avoid any spell and also these 3 players will probably 1 shot you the same time you show yourself in the fight to get rid of your annoying ulti. And no force staff/glimmer cape wont hold for late game as your enemies DO use dust and also have blinks because guess what : they are ranking aswell!
00:26 - Get GameLeap
00:48 - Introduction
01:19 - Positioning
03:13 - Trading
04:58 - Defensive items
07:31 - Smokes
09:30 - Warding
12:26 - Get GameLeap
I legit feel like they provide more than just "get gameleap", as a sub, we get detailed hero guides that teach us indepth hero mechanics. They also get us to experiment heroes we wouldn't consider being fun, by disclosing the way high MMR players see hero mechanics. Honestly, they deserve exclusivity over what they are doing.
Just get GameLeap!
@@hellionak i want gameleap account from a long ago honestly, but i dont have any credit card nor paypal :(
If you live in a first world country get a job!
@@hellionak Gotta say thanks to Speeed for contributing all of this!
6:00 - so you say that arcane Boots are Not good for Supports? what about Pos 5 omniknight/ ogre Magi/undying/ witchdoc/dazzle etc. who really need the additional mana+ flash Mana bursts? or did I get you wrong there?
Mangoes
@@karthikeyanswaminathan2380 were nerfed and Not as good as they were 9 months ago
People do NOT want to rosh and it really pisses me off. So many times around 20-25 I try to get the team to rosh but MOST of the time first rosh happens around 35-40. LAAAAAME
Exactly.
Depends on the team Comp doesn’t it?
@@massdestric6945 don't even get started i had a ursa in my team who didn't go to do rosh until he died trying to go highground.
While we kept telling him to get rosh earlier but his excuse was that he doesn't need it yet....
Ayush Gupta wow, I’m a ta player, so generally I rose alone at around 23-24 minutes. And I have a friend who spams ursa, so I can’t really relate there
@@massdestric6945 That was just one match though .We don't get these types of players everygame but it does come around sometimes
Hi Speeeeed! Just want to mention that I've been winning a lot of games. It's really the basic stuffs you mention that push me onward. 1) Keep hero pools small, 2) Creep aggros and correct positioning and rotations, 3) Farming/Fighting prioritization, 4) Communications and having positive mindset (not being toxic). In about a month I've raised my supp MMR by 900 and core MMR by 500. That's a grand total of 1400 MMR. Feels good to actually know I'm good at this game.
1st tip is actually the best tip. i'm only 5k mmr and the number of times my legend friend said "it's fine, i'm only a support" is way to damn high. 10/10 guide
"only"
It's an extremely frequent occurance, that one supports the 2 or 3 role so well, that they feel overpowered and keep going solo and feeding. They leave the laning phase with 3-0-2 and end the game as 5-16-7. You get the point. So don't become too good of a support. :p
i do all this stuff in this video and more im divine 1 support and in general i cant win because i play with cores leyends 7 and ancients 1 2 and 3 and they have no idea how to play the core role. any tip?
My sentiments exactly. *sigh*
this shouldnt hold you back if you dont get angry at your situation, and playing the victim like he said
1-Positioning
2-Buying defansive items
3-Trading efficiently
4-Calling for smokes
5-Dewarding tactics and warding
6. Block the enemy jungle to make the enemy carry tilt, and start a flame war with the supports.
@@manuelcornelio4348 that's the funniest thing you can do as a support
Another thing about wards/vision in the fight, I see it all the time, someone like ck ults, everyone runs from him, and every time he casts reality rift the fog stops it mid cast animation. This situation 1 ward can be the difference between missing the kill or wiping the enemy team.
supp: what r u going to do if your carry doesnt help you proctect ur ward, and the enemy carry always come with their supp to deward or , how do you protect your ward if the enemy supp has back up when dewarding and carries blame supp for not warding.
Speeed about every item in the game: IT'S BROKEN
Locket: *breathes*
Speed: IT'S BROKEN
@@gameleapdota2 what about soul booster
Best item in the game
@@gameleapdota2 Veil?
glimmer is truLY BROKEN, as low bracket I learning to climb up the rank, it's hard but most support at crusaders bracket(I once included) rarely buy defensive item such as glimmer and force staff, it is a legit item to help your teammates, especially when they're over extended their positioning and I notice that buying those item could benefit them in their bad position, since that my support role never be the same I got more winning than ever and got more commend that I used to have. I'm agree with speeed. Thanks great video as always.
@@devilincarnarion It's not only that they can be used both for yourself to survive and keep playing and do the same for your cores while they farm their BKBs, Damage or whatever, but that they have a direct impact on the game.
I mean, take a Desolator. Cool item, damage and armor reduction. You can kill faster and siege towers more efficiently... but what if your team just isn't taking fights? What if you are behind and it's not the lack of direct damage in making you be such? The same goes for some support items: they may not directly influence what's going on in the match.
On the other hand, Glimmer Cape and Force Staff are ALWAYS influential. As a 5th I almost never skip Force Staff and I can't think about a single match in the last months in which I didn't buy the Glimmer even as 4th AND a 3rd at times. Really. I get it on Mars to tank magic damage and manuever around team fights if needed or just use it on my safe-lane core if needed.
For 300 more gold I could have a Dagger? Yeah, but in those times I made the specific decision to go for the Glimmer and it worked out. Maybe as I climb I will need to give it up but it's such an influential item that I just can't think I shouldn't buy it in Solo.
what about supports teleporting to other lanes/shrines to help when their cores are getting ganked ? i feel like that deserves a mention.
Thanks for the support videos
I feel encourage when you said "check enemy inventory for wards then after moments the ward was gone" at 10:33. They saying "high IQ stuff". Been doing that but didn't knew that was high IQ stuff. *pats on the back *claps Thank you for the tips.
Thanks Speeed, geat video
yup! thats what i notice too in being suport. the positioning itself is the key
How do i submite teamfights for the guess the rank videos? Do i have to pay the site?!
A non mentioned tip I got from WoW long time ago: Learn your rotation. What does it mean? You got to know wich is your initiation spell! I've seen so many CMs trying to frostbite from long range and totally fucking up the gank instead of just pressing Q. Same for SShaman, not even talk about SD.
Do not go around like a headless chicken, you got to know exactly what are you going to do, and for that you need knowledge on cast ranges, mana management (bonus points for fighting under vision and/or with smoke) and nerves of steel.
Back in the day, outplaying was all about reaction times, now its about perfect resource management and patience in the midst of chaos
5:18 "people dont buy dust"
wrong, im playing in SEA and yes sea server is the most toxic af region BUT, they dont fckin forget to buy dust and sentry. seriously, buying shadow blade and mirana ulti is basically useless in SEA. i also shocked about this.
IDK I use dager. xD
Rule#1 Basher is must on CM.
Step 1- Wait for CM ult
Step 2- Bash
Step 3- Win team fight
Step 4- GG EZ +25 MMR
@@gameleapdota2 *laughs in 400 attack speed and abysal*
I am playing Support in Crusader and i am always buying brown boots and a Magic Stick depending on the lane and then RUSH Glimmer Cape. I am also always checking their Item and try to find out where the wards are. The only thing i didn't really got is the Smoke Gameplay and Positioning is also a big problem. Also i have problems playing consistantly i am playing some games really well and then i am throwing it the next game. I really want to get better and reach a new level of dota. My luck was that i am playing with Immortals and Divine players and i can hold on in those games. We get ranked against Legend V - Divine V and i can hold on with them. But when i played solo queue now i realised that this is not anymore my bracket. Although it is possible to carry as a support when your carrys are throwing the game by just going solo into 5 and saying, I KILL THEM ALL i always lose the game. I started now to play ranked on my 2. Account and got ranked into Divine 1 but i am really frustrated that the low elo is like a hell where you never can get out without good friends.
I usually buy mana boots for ss BUT I disassemble like 30 minutes into the game and get an aether lens and tranquil boots. Getting the mana boots is more efficient, saves me some gold and in matches where my friends needed mana in a team fight been a key item. I mean obviously tranquil is better. But not in the early game when I have mana problems
For low mmr/rank if you want to play pos 4-5 you need to make sure that you fall into one of these criteria
1)you hate yourself or you are a masochist.
2)you hate creeps killing.
3)espscially pos5, like getting gangbang by everyone in the match.
If you're in one of those you have to
- embrace carry's idiocy.
- there are chance that pos5 just doesn't give a fuck and just went for core item instead of ward or support item. In this case just go pos5 instead
- if you're lucky, ask teammates nicely and they'll buy wards, smoke, dust for you.
- normally pos5 gives mid 1-2 tango at the beginning of the match not pos4. there are exceptions but this would be ideal.
- force staff, glimmer cape, wards, smoke, that mana boots or green boots are your best friend, not your teammate. Buy them!!
- as pos4 you may want to pick a hero that can fuck enemy pos1 and/or pos 5 up instead of ones that can keep pos 3 alive.
- getting blame is part of playing support. Just don't get upset about it.
Man, I want to see your vods/gameplay. It would greatly help. Not that your regular vids don't, it's additional info to digest.
Thanks my man, keep it up
I really have no idea what you're talking about when you say "people don't buy dust" (or detection in general) in solo queue. It's just flatly untrue. People DO buy dust.
@@gameleapdota2 if you say so, that hasn't really been my experience. Still enjoyed the video
No it really is true. Maybe in low level play the best player will get dust if he realizes he has too. but in high level play usually the 3-4-5 are carrying dust while the 1-2 jump on backline supports whenever possible. core players tend to try to maximize their 6 slots with stats and their future items/best items available/wand etc. plus as a 1-2 you will eventually max out 6 items and can not carry dust unless gem is apart of your build while you're snowballing late mid game which you eventually give away for your last item.
So, the item provides 50% magic resistance. 50%. And even if a core has to buy dust to kill you, at least you are wasting 90 gold of his. And in pubs, people do buy dust. But that's like once or twice. Late game they conveniently forget about it.
@@utsabsilroy1971 oh yeah I'm not knocking glimmer cape AT ALL, great item for sure. I was only disagreeing with the dust sentiment
I guess it depends on the bracket
At the start of the video when the gameleap ad comes on.
"Your team does not deserver your support..." - okay got it, I will write that down and go pos1 hard support
I do realise that I'm not using smoke mainly because I have no idea how to use them effectively. Another issue I have is I need to ward somewhere with no vision and enemies are not on the map so I'm in a cycle whereby I have no vision, I need to ward, but because I have no vision I don't dare to go and ward (most of the time when I try to I end up dying without doing anything)
I always do the checking on wards of the enemy before dewarding and warding. Cant believe it is important. Thanks game leeeeap!
How on Earth is shaman shackling 2 heroes? Is that a new update or I'm dumb to not know that at all
Ok that was on top of grims ult
Could not stress the warding for fights part enough.
Probably the best piece of advice in the video
Please make a video on offlaning. I'm an offlane player but I seem to get zoned out from lane most of the games due to my post 4 leaving lanes. I want to understand pos 3 even as a solo offlaner without POS 4's presence in lane.
supp leaves you coz u cant play carry u have zero mind games such as hitting and running to control the lane or so the enemy carry cant get close to the creeps. BASICALLY its your fault ur impossible to supp. or there are opportunities to kill in your lane but u stick to farming "farm lord"
@@nickfuryjr1346 Wonder which bracket you at. With the patch changes and stuffs in 6months idk what you're talking about rn.
Man, im like 4.5k player and I did literary every things that you mention as supp player. My problem that make me quite depress to claims my 5k mmr is no matter what, my range mmr is stuck beetween 4-4.6k. When my bad day comes I lose no matter how hard I tried, I just lose, and when i get my good day, I win game by almost doing nothing. and I just stuck in that range of mmr.
I've played support and only support for years and while I'm no pro, I do watch pro vids and I agree with everything except the shade on mana boots. Mana boots while you say is overrated, it's also a game changer when you have core who are mana dependent. Wands, bracers help with survivability but mana boots is a staple along with force staff and glimmer cape (unless they have a BH/Slar who spams detection).
sometimes, dont just tell. anyone can yap yap like duck. show and tell. dont play random clips, play the right clip to the right tip. show people learn by seeing actual examples.
you earned yourself a new subscriber as a SEA Support i needed this
Props to gameleap and speeed for all the efforts of making us all better players. I have followed speeed's training and advices, he pretty much repeats all lessons and emphasize to it because that's all there is to getting better. I have seen so much improvement in my gameplays specially positioning since I had the "victim support" mindset that speeed mentioned in the video before.
However, no one really talks about how big of a deal bad teammates are. Kindly telling teammates to get certain items seems to be a pain in the ass since no one ever listens and will even get you reported simply by trying to guide your team to a victory.
What I'm trying to say is all these technical skills and strats are useless if you are matched with people who cant think like you do. Seems like to win is to get lucky teammates.
Why's Crystal Maiden looking like the pretty girl in high school
lol
@@gameleapdota2 yes father
I want that cm pic as my wallpaper!!
Because she is
heyo speed, can we play offlane pl? what do you think about the possibilities for heros for other roles in dota? because i am frustrated about people calling games lose from start because they don't get what we can do in dota for real, they don't even think i believe :(
In herald tier, u cant just trust carry.. some of these guy will just random pick, they dont mind if the enemy will pick PL then the last pick in our team picked sniper even we already have storm in team.. they dont know how to counter pick.. so i play support and core in the same way.
in herald tier the enemy storm doesn't know how to play storm and will probably die to the sniper who just a-moved. in herald, no one knows what they are doing on either team, including you. getting tilted in the picking phase in herald is the stupidest thing you can do because the enemy team has no clue whats going on either
Thanks Speeed Always Love Ur Videos About Support. Cant wait for more.
Maybe next u should make videos about tusk. I really want to improve my skill on that hero. Thanks. Keep Going. Good Job. Cheers ✌
What are these background songs you add? Cant find in description :(
Thanks that was helpful, although as someone who's just played a few Dota games, there's a lot of vocabulary and things that I don't understand, which hinder the helpfulness of the video. Eg, what's 'rosh'?😅
Rosh stands for Roshan, the large creep who is present in the roshan camp in the top right of the river. He is a really strong creep who when killed drops the "aegis of immortality" an item which lets you come back to life after you die
Your vids about supporting are always helpful 😭 thank you so much speeed
So much respect for your videos! Please keep them going. Always look forward to your next one!
Almost every game i play as support, i get Glimmer Cape and Force Staff. Both items saving lives.
thankyou so much gameleap! ive learn alot from your guides !!
Great video honestly has made me a much better support flying through the ranks :)!
hey speed, do you also do coaching? I did not see any option in GameLeap
What do you do when your core is so trash that no matter how good ur support is they still find ways to screw the game up
Report and avoid that player in the future.
my point exactly and the end of the game they will blame supp 🙄
That channel help me a lot i go from 3.000 to 3.800 in a month but i see a lot of ancient players build wrong iteams hard supports go for midas and support build core iteam no support iteams like forcestaff eul's ghost ward or sentry ... And i thing my road is long until i have good games and enjoyed . sorry for my bad english .
I play sup now for 10 years, and I do all the Tipps you told in the video I stay in the back line I buys salve, Tangos clarity for my carry I ward I deward I block camps I stack camps , I buy glimmer forcestaff urn vessel Mekka, I Spam my spells ih there is a chance to safe my carry I gona die for him etc. Sorry to tell you this but as solo sup in lower brackets its a 50 percent chance to win. Play one day in 2000mmr section and you will go insane.
I like the last clip on how they let CM got the Rampage
Amazing video Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed, very informative and great points to review on watching replays.
Speed sama, are there any other programs or apps outside of Dota 2 that I could use to practice last hitting?
play practice with bots unfair, use sf play mid sf will make you last hit better because you need soul to fight.
Wow another repeating content with a different title! Very helpful!
because you stupid people keep making the same mistakes LOL
@@jinhui9861 carries always makes mistakes overcommiting, they know the area is not warded still farms there and blame supp if they die.
Dunno if the games I had timemachined me to 2015 or something, but people just spam crap load of support item like sentry and dusts now, event sod is frequently out of stock.
People select the role they want to play in a game now.
Awesome content!
Usually lose in low bracket because carry refused to go bkb or is not smart enough to realise when to go bkb and all your supporting effort was in vain.
what is PMA? 8:39
Positive mental attitude
If i core my support are useless. If im the support my carry feel like a GOD and always dive.
Dude you same as me😂 especially can relate when im carry my supp noobs fuck and when i support (my main role) my team was like bro go support role ahaha😅
I feel your pain man
dude maybe u are herald or guardian
speed can you give a guide for oracle ?
Sea server player most of the things you mentioned in this video has been done by most support mains in SEA even up to the lowest bracket. The problem here is that everyone wants to play as a corem wants to farm until 60 mins. Nothing you can do to make them stop farming, and yeah smoking doesn't work some of them just continue to farm until ganked by the opposing team EVEN with wards in place. I want to post you a challenge, if you can please play in SEA server as a support and analyze what is missing from that server that would be great. Thank you
that happens if the cores keeps farming whole game, what should the supp do watch them farm? how the hell can they buy wards ?
@@nickfuryjr1346 incoming creeps and creep pushing
@@TruthbtoldMD supp push alone while carries jungle? if supp farms at lane and the carries are in jungle , supp will be an ez target for the enemy and u cant just deward u absolutely dont have help from carries.
Nice video mate.
I used grim in a ranked game once, we have lion as position 4. We were in SEA server
We were owning the game, no one was complaining about anything. I bought ward, i spammed my skill, secure space, and so on.
Then, this lion was complaining about my positioning, he said i need to get closer on a teamfight.
I had aether lens and took the cast range talent.
I died twice, and this lion died like 10 or something.
He was still complaining even after we won the game, omegalul
He basically wanted you to die instead of him
why not mute lion?
i never knew positioning is so important for support....so glad that i watch video
I need more support video, thanks man
Urn buy urns as a support...its a must item
Im divine 3 from archon 4 in 3months by playing support, thx speed
What do you mean with trading?
Trade hits with the enemy.
Always buy regen both mana and hp so youll always be ready for team fights. This mantra made me rank up from archon 1 to ancient 4 in 1 month.
I don’t agree that when you ping smoke every dota player comes right away. I find a lot of people don’t know you are invisible to wards when smoked. Such an important tool that is extremely under used. When smoke ping goes off you need to drop what you’re doing immediately for if you take too long the enemy should now the smoke gank is coming.
As a support player, this doesn't work with a Slark who cannot use Q and R properly. In short, even if you followed all 5 (and I believe I have been), this won't likely work out if the hard carries can't do their jobs in long game crucial clash. **sigh**
That's why you build defensive items, to save those shit Carries. If you can save your carries, they will hit more, they will tank more; and you and your carry will be able to cast more spells, which will eventually win you the fights and game.
What do you mean by trading??
u probably dont play supp.
A video like this for offlane would be sweet
One thing i see is also important. Ward when not in vision. And ward first than the enemy supp.
Okay speed because of your videos people now buy dust in low mmr also. There are a lot of smokes used as well. Just wanted to update you on whats going on down there...
Thanks it helped as a sp 🙂
Is AA good pos 5 hero to spam?
It is, especially against high regen heroes like Lifestealer, Alchemist, Timbersaw or even Necrophos
"People don't buy dust in solo"
Me: cries in CM costantly bullied through dust after using the glimmer on myself one time.
So true, It's not smart to understimate the enemy.
picks Riki in Herald/Guardian...
Shopkeep: "well i just sold all my sentries and 10 dusts"
Man,even in DotA 1 ppls buyed dust...
How you say glimer is brocken...
I prefer lotar!!!
the thing about using glimmer capes in lower mmrs is that the fucking carry doesn't realize I glimmered him and continues to hit the enemy....omg*sad face*
That thumbnail ❤
How to win a a supp
Pick kotl pos 5 and smack the enemy and keep hitting them with blinding light
Speed, can you please make a guide on how to play *together* with a demotivating toxic teammate? It's a team game and I don't like muting my own team but some players really make it hard.
Flaming cause a support didn't give that extra *one* tango, demotivating and abusing someone with words when losing/making mistakes, etc. The usual SEA server stuffs.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Never play solo
HiiIGH mmr supporting 3:20
I felt his breath through the screen
Who should be buying the glimmers cape, a 4 or 5?
Both dude, depends of situations and heros.
@@shaggy371thanks!
And if i do this and my cores still throw the game ? xD
Me as a support: *Uses smoke on team*
My carry: *Goes and hits jungle creeps*
Me: WTH am I even here for??
If past mid game your carry is still not joining to fights even tho he is 5slotted, its not your fault
I hate when my team wants me to fight and is forcing fights on my side of the map when im AntiMage with a battlefury
Ya. AM requires time. So, no problem. But the fault is when the rest of the team can't understand that we can create space by fighting somewhere else by using smokes.
@@HarbingerGaming824 Its quite hard to do smokes on lower tiers, players are just all-around bad, you just have to accept that, they all think their playstyle will bring them win, because they don't know for something like smokes to exist.
That I can agree to.
I get k2.3 as hard sup thx speeeed 👍👍👍
But my carry magically stayed offline for whole game while got free farm and free kill. Deal more damage to creep than hero enemy, and no bkb when they have thousand of cc
That's 1 game. Only 1 single game. It doesn't matter. Play 1000 games with 51% winrate. You will win 510 games and lose 490 games. With 20 games different you have already gained 500 MMR. Now play 2000 games, and you will gain 1000 MMR. See the point?
2:18 Well I would ask you the question: "Why did you not get Euls, SheepStick, Octo core and go 'Q-W-Hex-Q-W-Euls-Q-W' forever"
Dope
in crusader rank
support : gather for smoke of deceit here
carry : i go solo
What the point buying defensive items when u dont click them at the right time
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FINALLY! A SUPPORT VIDEO!!
Nevermind me I'm just so eager to watch support videos and is always waiting for a new one😂💯👍🏼
Buy smoke...
Stand in a safe spot
Ping let's smoke for 2 minutes
No one comes
Watch carries get 5manned
We need more WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRDDDDZZZZZZZZZZZ
basically every Dota game ever outside immortal games
what if im a better player than all of my team and i took support thinking my team was better than me
Easy support buy force staff, use it on carry then run home
Although this video is good and the guy is always to the point, it is MISSLEADING! You can't rank up as a support for more than 1-2k mmr as its not in your hands! If your carry doesn't get a bkb and feeds in late game for example or your mid player is simply bad the game is over no matter who you are. So in the end ranking up= mid/carry job.
Always remember that ranking in dota is based exclusively in the impact your role plays. So in the late game 3 of the 5 enemy players will have BKB to avoid any spell and also these 3 players will probably 1 shot you the same time you show yourself in the fight to get rid of your annoying ulti. And no force staff/glimmer cape wont hold for late game as your enemies DO use dust and also have blinks because guess what : they are ranking aswell!
My friend which his a ignorant guy always says his support he don't buy dust he don't buy glimmer Cape or force staff and he went to buy deso lol