Making my M3 MacBook Air FASTER than M3 14" Pro!
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You really need to put a disclaimer in these videos. If you look at the comment section you will notice that some people are angry at Apple for not installing thermal pads in the Macbook Air. Please explain in the video that Apple are not a bunch of clowns, and that they isolate the processor from the top and bottom case on purpose, to protect their users from burning themselves, as other computer manufacturers do as well. I have done this thermal pads mod 2 years and a half ago on my M1 Macbook Air. I have also done something similar a few weeks ago on my 2017 12 inch Macbook. I take full responsibility for this, and I know what I'm doing, as you are, but the truth is that both devices have become unsafe to use. I'm getting around 65°C (149°F) under the Macbook Air at full load after a while, and up to 70°C (158°F) under the 12 inch Macbook using Xcode and running an iPhone simulator. You have to be clear about the fact that Apple is doing the right thing, and that modding the Macbooks with thermal pads can be amazing, but carries some risks.
Can you please check and let us know how hot the bottom chassis gets with the thermal pads.
For the average user it is more than enough
I will be interesting to take a look on similar update for macbook pro 14 with m3 max.
@MaxTechOfficial - any chance you guys could do a video on the adoption of Macs in the 3D market (both CAD & Creative Design)? Apple has struggled here in recent years but Apple Silicon Macs have made great strides in the last year with stacks of ports (ARM+Metal but MetalRT?) and the intro of Vision Pro seems to be piquing the 3D community's interest.
There are some CZcamsrs trying this but they're less thorough/consistent than you guys and there's lots of detail missing.
Just a thought that, when product releases slow down, you could dig into the App communities.
I just keep mine in the refrigerator. Seems to help out a lot.
you carry that frige with you when travel? Damn, bro that's very heavy !!!
@@SeviersKain It's a mini fridge. Not as heavy as the Jackery battery pack he carries to keep it running.
So you enter in the fridge to use your MBA ? does the light switch off when you close the door ?
You are all making me laugh 😆
i just work inside a big freezer
Has anyone noticed that the cooling dock is $279? This is not a cheap solution!
Basic laptop cooler is $20. I bought one to use w my 2018 MBP bc World of Warcraft would get too hot. The M3 Pro 14” isn’t as bad w the heat but I still use it when I’m playing WoW. Nothing else needs it tho
Knock $200 off that then, maybe.
Just get the thermo pad and a cheap cooler would do about the same
I mean you bought apple🤷🏻♂️what is $279?
@@brosplit way too much when $20 accomplished the same goal
Damn this cooler is $250+. Might as well get Macbook Pro since that will close the gap on the price difference for 16GB/512GB.
Also in that price m3 pro is worth much better or m2 pro macbook pro (if available in your country) with better performance
And get a better screen, better speakers, more ports, bigger battery.....
And you can open the laptop..... this is pointless you might as well get a mac mini if you can't use the screen or keyboard and get a cheap air for travel.
must you buy it cant u just mill one or screw one together
He addresses this right in the video: the Air is thinner and lighter while traveling, then you can drop it on a cooling dock while at your desk. For a lot of people, this is a great solution. Signed, a person with both an Air and M1 Max Pro who prefers the Air.
This is exactly what I did before i watched this video, add the thermal pads to my M2 Macbook Air. However, there was a concern about battery health because now the entire lower case of the macbook air gets warm from the thermal transfer, and the case will warm up the macbook air battery. Any temperature above 53 Celcius is bad for the battery. My solution was to tape the inside of the macbook air back cover with thermal protective film so that the cover does not transfer the heat back to the battery locations. I managed to keep the battery temperature at or lower than 53 celcius, while still keeping the benefits of the thermal pads. I also put my m2 macbook air on top of a laptop cooler that uses a fan to cool the macbook air, thus achieving what this video also achieved.
Great idea! Thanks for sharing.
Any references for this thermal protective film or insulator material? Are you talking about the golden fiberglass tape to wrap around engine pipes? Or something with more insulation?
+1 to @@WilloPax’s question. Curious what you used for the protective film. Was it kapton tape?
Could you share a step by step guide for this? or some youtube video you might think could be useful, showing how this can be done?
Thank you
@@alvesricardo Search MaxTechOfficial/this channel for the video that shows you exactly how to do this. That's the one I used to learn how to do it. Luke Miami's channel also has a video on how to install the thermal pads. Those 2 videos are very good, but there are other videos, too.
To most of the average users, if you only need M2/M3 Air for study, browsing, watching content and other stuff not involving heavy load on graphics, which majority% people will do, you won’t need to worry about thermals.
I use my M3 Air for music production too with studying and all other normal stuff, haven’t faced issues.
i got the m1 pro 14", while playing league of legends fans, coding using docker, fans even never turned on ... :D
I put a magnet on my the side of the palm rest, the Mac thinks it's closed, so it cools down better.
Great tip! Thank you!
Remember not to close the screen while its still there
Did not work on my mbp 16 2019. I remember they have screen angle detection as well? could you send a link of your magnet?
I don't know about the M2/M3, but the M1 MacBook Air requires two magnets to trick it. The hall effect sensors seem to be hidden in the speaker grilles, at the bottom corner of the shift keys.
My 2015 MacBook Pro only needed one magnet to trick it.
idk if a magnet can destroy some of the electronics so. I know there is no hdd, but...
You can make one of these for like $25. Get yourself an old intel pentium CPU heat sink. These are basically just machined blocks of aluminum with fins. If you want a fan, you have the extra bonus of these being able to mount fans directly on them. Otherwise you can go completely fanless, or even get something like a Dell Dimension heat sink (used in fanless systems) which is literally just a machined block of aluminum. $10 plus shipping.
Grab yourself an extra thermal pad to put between it and the mac book air. $10-15.
Place thermal pad on aluminum heatsink. Place macbook on top of thermal pad. Elevate macbook with something so that it rests level with cooling block. Success.
Thanks for the idea. I am currently waiting for my base model M3 to arrive, and have some old heatsinks stashed in my workshop (I have kept them around since the late 90s thinking they might be good for something...) Some are large blocks and others are quite low-profile (removed from motherboard chipsets). They have the footprint of a small matchbox and around half the height. I think I might make use of them in this fashion lol
Well done dude!🎉
Perfect! Glad to see you make this video!
The only thing I’d say is that the cooler block might not be realistic for many budget conscious MacBook Air buyers, because of the price. You should try that $20 laptop cooler stand or the Razer Phone Cooler peltier fan, and see what it can do!
Great research, awesome product! Thank you!
Great video! I got MBA M3 24GB 1TB Midnight, my first Mac. In this configuration is faster than my desktop (i9 9900k), this should be more than enough for a such slim/compact machine. I like the thermal pads idea. Thanks.
Thinking of getting the same how is the heat issue
Thinking of getting the same how is the heat issue
@@haggaikathewela8910 Yes I wouldn't get the MBA with high specs because we all ready know without a way to cool, it's not going to perform well. Essentially wasted performance for one reason only, "heat."
been doing this also to non-fanless macbooks for years to improve thermals and then performance dramatically
thankyou for releasing youtube vids everyday or so coz it stops me being bored with nothing to do heheh
Almost $300 for a heatsink is equally ridiculous.. 😅
Great video and advice! Thank you!
Is the Macbook Pro getting significantly better with the external fan ?
This is a great tip / suggestion, thank you for making this video!
Really great hook with a thermal pad and a fan. A very useful trick! Thanks!
the SVALT Cooling block alone is US$280!!!! not including fan , not inculding thermal pads , might as well spend the money to upgrade to 14inch pro , which hv better sound better screen better everything, so this video is not objective
This is SOOOOO DUMB, the mba is so lovely and small and slim and light, let’s add a literal brick to my bag to cool the thing which we know is a light duty chassis. If you worry about thermals, Max shows us what fans and air management can do. As an alternative he offers this clunky nonsense? Crazy Max.
I returned to Best Buy the 15” MBA M3 16/512 without even open it because while on transit with FedEx I saw the 14” MBP M3 16/1TB for $1849 at Best Buy as well. So ordered it immediately and it’s going to be delivered tomorrow. A 15” MBA M3 16/1TB would have been $1899…
oh, I've never expected the results You presented, thank you!
I'm a game developer who regularly works on large projects that demand both the GPU for testing the game in simulators and the CPU to build projects in Unity, Xcode, and Android Studio. My MacBook Air M3 was suffering a lot due to throttling, often reaching more than 95 degrees Celsius. This modification made my top temperature go down to 86 degrees Celsius. The MacBook is running approximately 11 degrees Celsius cooler on average. The batteries never reached more than 41 degrees Celsius in the worst-case scenario. I totally agree that this modification is not something you should consider if you are not a heavy user. But if you do use heavy tasks like video encoding, game development, or building projects, you will get way more out of your hardware by doing it. Additionally, it cools down much faster when I finish heavy tasks. It used to take forever to bring it below 80 degrees Celsius; now it's almost instantaneous. Thanks for the tip. I just used only one thermal pad as recomended in the video description. Thanks for the video.
@CharlesBarros what a does a game developer do with MacBook Air M3 to perform simulation? This is the wrong tool for your line of work. Get a MacMini and call it a day. A MacBook Air are for web browser-type people.
@@Traumatree I have a regular desktop for work at my house, but I'm also a businessperson who has to travel a lot. During my travels, my tool of choice is the MacBook Air because it is lightweight and handles my development needs very well.
@@CharlesBarros So you also travel with this chunky cooling block? It seems to me a macbook pro is easier to carry than macbook air + external cooling system. Unless you only use the cooling block at your house, which means that you macbook air is your do-it-all machine?
@@MrW0rDs you don’t need this cooling block to have better performance than the stock. The thermal pad helps a lot to boost the performance by its own. 😄
The question I have is by closing the air gap are you going to increase the possibly of damage to the logic board from light drops.
Hi Max Tech, is the 1mm thermal pad recommended for the 15" M3 MB Air as well? or the 1.5mm would be better. In the video you showed the 1.5mm version? But in your description you recommended the 1mm version? Thanks.
that is very impressive, with just thermal pads it really help it and now I'm for sure getting a MacBook Air, I will of course get the upgraded 10 Core GPU, RAM and storage.
This is gold!
Hey man. Thanks for all the incredible videos over the years!!! Which audio monitor do you use on the desktop?
hello do you make another ram comparison video for the macbook air 15", whether an upgrade to 24 Gb is worthwhile or 16Gb is enough. That would be great, thanks
16 is prob enough - only if you are heavy user this might be interesting
When I had a Mac Air M1, it would always throttle. All I did was to get a laptop fan (laptop sitting on top with two large fans under it with a riser to get air flow. Worked for a long time too until I went to get a 16gb model and I opted for the Pro to get a built in fan. Works with the lid closed and even with a case on
Hi Max, which software are you using to monitor your cpu clock speed?
Thats actually awesome that you can have a thin, light fanless Macbook Air on the go, dock it on a heatsink ater installing thermal pads at home, and have it faster than a MacBook Pro. Love it!
Don't install heat pads. They have the potential to harm your body and other parts of your computer. They are only for people who know exactly what they are doing. They will also void your warranty.
I don't think a lot of people understand how awesome it is to have something so powerful and so light. Having to actively cool it at home is a small compromise in my view.
Is there a heat block solution for an open Macbook Air?
Excellent, good work.
In the past I’ve use a laptop cooling pad made of aluminum and placed a small piece of thermal pad between the laptop and cooling pad. Will try with the M3 and see how it goes.
Your videos are quite informative 🫡🫡love to watch your videos❤❤
Can you make a video comparing all the existing airpods and also apple wired type c earpods all together?
Great video. What are your thoughts on improving the performance (without a relevant comparator (i.e. an air) for a Max M3 16 with the thermal pads, and perhaps a heat block?
I honestly think you guys won the silicon lottery with the m3 air, because even with bursty tasks it was faster than the pro of the same spec
Maybe apple thinks lethal only a crazy person would buy a bulky pro with slow chip, so they don’t put good silicon there anyway?
Or TSMC have made improvements with their 3nm node?
This is interesting thanks for producing this. Do these pads need to be replaced after some time? Also, any safety issues with the pads such as them degrading over time? Lastly, would this void the warranty? If you could next time running this (amazing) set of tests, please address these questions also that would be awesome.
Yes, it will void your warranty. Yes, there are definite safety issues. I would not do it unless you are a total computer nerd. MaxTech are doing this for videos and because they know what they are doing. They are absolutely not the answer for normal users. There are other cooling options that don't cause potential harm to not just your body but also the battery and possibly other parts of the computer.
This is a pretty cool solution (ha, get it?)
Very creative. Though of course one thing to keep in mind if you're considering this option is that you won't get that macbook pro performance on the go. That being said, great if you're leaving your sustained workload tasks for when you're at home or at your office.
Another thing to keep in mind that I think is brushed over in the video, is battery health. It's all fine when you're on the cooling dock, but when using it day to day, that thermal pad will transfer heat to the chassis and down to the battery.
It's not just a video about MBA. It's a brilliant idea. Thank you so much.
What does the Thermal Pads do with Apple Warranty?
i put thermal pads in my 2020 m1 macbook air and have never had issues with anything over heating. i dont do any crazy heavy workloads mind you but even when benchmarking it to see how it performs i never had any issues.
Amazing. thanks!
You might have added the thermal cam shots of the backplate, when stressing the CPU with and without the pads. I believe it would be very informative for prospective implementers of the hack.
How are the bottom panel surface temps with the thermal pad mod? Still usable on your lap? Or is it a desk only kind of laptop after the mod?
My m2 MacBook Air 15 inch gets uncomfortably hot when the MacBook is under loud and the m3 is hotter then m2 and with a thermal pad will be even worse so it would be uncomfortable for heavy loads but fine for light to medium intensity tasks like web browsing or photo editing.
I'd like to see a video that's also comparing the 24gb RAM model too, I haven't seen such yet
Same :)
yep. I'm so curious. 24gb vs the 16, and 24gb vs the M3pro MBP 18gb
PSA: Use 1.0mm thermal pads. 1.5 imm is almost too thick, It makes screwing back the lid very difficult and almost buldges the bottom of the MBA.
is it good now, what about the battery temp?
I did this thermal pad trick to my M1, and its still going hard, if you cant handle the heat of the casing after this mod, I say harden up tender foot :)
Did pads on a 3090 a few months ago, so that looks easy. Might be time to grab one.
That cooling block looks interesting. Maybe couple it with some silent noctua fans? Would be interesting to see if you could push the M3 Max more with that thing. Maybe I need to test that....
Does make you wonder how an MBA would perform on a $25 active laptop cooler… or even sitting on a $10 granite tile cut to fit between the feet so it’s in contact with the base
It also makes me wonder at how far they could push the M3 in a well cooled mac mini or a mac studio.
Adding the thermal pads, will that break apple care coverage?
One question I have is what effect does low RAM have on MacBook Air M3 thermals? If so, how does it compare with your experiments with thermal pads and heat sinks?
Which thermal pad thickness is good for a 15" M2 Air?
Do you think this would work with Intel-based MacBook Pros as well?
Very cool video and idea. Best of both worlds - power when docked and portable on the go. I just need to find an affordable heat block
Also curious what the impact of just using an external fan would be.
Will this work with the M2 Air?
Does the thermal pad mod void your warranty?
What is the name of this system monitoring application? I would like to use it on my Mac...
Would you get any benefit to use it on a M1 MacBook Pro for the thermo pads thanks.
What will be the result if i just use a 25 usd usb fan? Wouldn’t that solve the problem?
Do these thermal pads leave any residue on either side?
If I add thermal pads, will it void the warranty?
Wow, this video is very eye opening. I'll definitely install a cooling solution if I get an Air. I'm curious to know how the performance is when using both the Air and Pro open while connected to an external display. In my case I have an ultra widescreen monitor connected via a Thunderbolt port, which also charges the laptop.
Hi, if I may, I would like to ask for help.
I am using a Mac Studio M1 Max / 64 GB RAM for ArchiCAD (3D CAD design, among other things). I wonder if the current computers with M3 processor, even MacBook AIR , would not be better for this task? Especially with the additional cooling system you showed ;)
What do you think?
Thank you so much for this comparison. I am blind so the fan way is much easier for me. Going to definitely get one of these I’m planning to get a fully specked out MacBook Air so the fan way is definitely way easy thank you so much. Keep up the good work.
Is it not a good solution for people work from home but occasionally need some portability?
Did you guys measure how hot the bottom gets with thermal pads?
so 1mm is good enough for macbook air ? not 1.5mm as shown in video?
I would love to see the same test conducted on the MacBook Pro 14” since it also suffers from thermal throttling as compared to the 16” model.
What would happen to the M3 Pro on the cooler with the fan?.....should have tried that
How significant is the heating aspect we are talking about here? Is it worth noting or it’s for seriously heavy users….?
May I have a question? I saw you used 1.5mm thermal pad. Why do you suggest 1.0mm?
Same question here! Could younplease clarify @max tech?
@@TheNapsterHack with 1,5mm is bit difficult to close the bottom lid
Doesn’t adding thermal pad ruin warranty? What’s it like just with the fan sink thingy?
He covered that in the video. With it even without the fan, it drastically reduces the air from throttling. Only downside it cost like 300 dollars.
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What about the noise levels of the external fan? How do they compare to MBP's?
You forgot to mention : $279 for Svalt's cooling dock. Might as well upgrade to the MBP really
While I think the $279 is way too high, at least it’ll help cool all your laptops now and future laptops in the future. That extra $ for the MBP will only help now.
@@HypocritesExposd that is probably only justification. Or we can wait and see if it wont sell and goes cheaper :) or wait for chinese knock off.
I would still rather have the macbook air to use on a table top on the go and full performance at home in one of these docks. macbook pro is a chonky heavy laptop.
I want to know what's the performance like for a MacBook Pro with thermal pads.
It does not improve the performance at all, because the heat is already evacuated by the fan. The thermal pads mod only makes sense on fanless designs. I have done it on my M1 Macbook Air, and recently on my 2017 12 inch Macbook with good success, but it is important to note that the temperatures on the bottom cases of both devices are now unsafe, which explains why Apple does not do it.
So its better not to do it?! But what exactly u mean with unsafe? i am afraid of the battery or to effect some other electronics inside. if this would be the ultimate solution apple would prob. have done it.@@fixups6536
I like your Tardis-like studio wall, I expect it will dampen noise reflections too.
Yes it actually has sound dampening foam on the back of it.
I mean, what you're doing is using the chassis of the Macbook Air to dump heat into, whereas before there was an air gap. I think the only issue would be if you end up using it in your lap, the chassis will get a lot warmer.
Hey MaxTech, can't we do this exact upgrade on the M3 MacBook Pro combining the fan, thermal pad and the cooler stand all together to squeeze the best performance out?
It would be nice to have a resource to check the ideal thermal pad measurements according to every type of device.
Would those thermal pads make it too hot to use on your lap? Otherwise seems the way to go if it didn’t void any warranty.
Perhaps more important than that, the heat transfer to the case will spread the heat to the batteries, absolutely destroying them.
Very interesting demonstration. I stopped using laptop coolers as I found that the more recent laptops from Apple (last 10 years) weren’t getting much improvement in performance from external fans. Just lifting the laptop off the desk on a cheap stand was enough for a 10% improvement for long sessions, external fans sometimes seemed to interfere with Apple’s internal cooling design. I would see temperatures slightly higher with the fans running! Using a closed laptop seemed unproductive and a good way to shorten the laptop’s lifespan, so I never did it. This changes my mind a little for future purchases.
Which MacBook is good to buy in 2024 for cs students?
$290 for cooling???? why not just buy a macbook pro at this point ?
Versatility. He talks about this. You can take the much lighter Air or set it up at a desk for heavy tasks. IMO a great tradeoff.
Which thickness thermal pads do you need?
I haven’t seen a single reviewer call out some of the limitations on the M3 Air’s inability to push certain resolutions. The scaling options on a 5k display are far inferior to what’s offered by the MBP and not one person has mentioned it in a review
I would love to hear more about this.
They have Pro models for 5k tho?
This is a non issue and not a thing. “Default” resolution is still 2560x1440 hidpi which is standard. Even the pros don’t allow actual 5k resolution only up to 3k in stock “more space” I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. They do exactly the same.
@@InsaneFilms I haven’t tested out multiple external displays (mostly bc I don’t care that much and I don’t get paid to do this stuff), but on my main display (40” Dell 5k/2k), there are many more hi res options when using my M3 Max MBP vs my M3 MBA.
If I force the usual resolution I use with my MBP through a 3rd party app (bc it’s not available as an option natively through Mac OS), it is low res and looks like trash.
So the only options are a resolution where everything is too large and not what I like or full resolution which is way too small and also not useable.
@@Wonder_Wicks I’m talking about pushing to an external display
Could you make a video showcasing the other m series air models?
How does addin a thermal pad affect battery temperature?
Hey are there any downsides to this solution? Can you please advise it seems like there would be some drawbacks for heat or battery long term. Can you do some more tests on the battery heat?
There are downsides and they should definitely mention it. My experience is with the M1 Macbook Air, in which I have installed thermal pads 2 years and a half ago. The bottom case can get dangerously hot: 65°C (149°F). If you use the laptop on your lap under full load, this is above the maximum temperature allowed by the various laws around the world, so you must be careful and know what you are doing. The battery is a little hotter than usual, but I don't think it's a problem, though.
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What is the thickness of thermal pads?
Will opening the macbook void warranty? Even if it does in theory, can apple see if it has been opened?
Thanks for the video. Could you also test thermal pads + desktop cooling pad (fans for working with the laptop opened)? You just tested a cooling system for closed lid, could you test a system for cooling with the laptop open please? Cheers :)
NOW, can you put thermal pads in 14'' macbook pro and make it even faster?
Hey Max, I just wanted to report my own test: I got the 1.5mm thermal pad (exactly the one you got) and placed it directly above the M3, another 1mm one I placed half/half left and right of the 1.5mm one. I placed the Macbook on a dedicated laptop-stand, like I usually do at home (open), and my multi-core score in Cinebench is: 678 (and I had a lot of stuff opened while running Cinebench). I'm really impressed. But I have to say these pads are a bit weird to work with. I had to really fight them to get off the clear plastic side and torn some junks from it while doing so, but at the end I was able to squish everything together into a homogeneous pad. :)
what is the mm thick size thermal pads you used for macbook air?
How noisy is that cooling dock? That was not addressed in the video.
do the thermal pads also work on M2 15”?