Casual Streamer Accidentally Finds HUGE Skip That Speedrunners Missed
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- Glitch Hunters are some of the most thorough investigators when it comes to speedrun skips, but even they miss things that seem obvious in hindsight. Today we look at the story of how a casual streamer find a skip by complete accident that had the speedrunners in a frenzy trying to replicate it.
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00:00 - Intro
01:04 - A Fantastic Accident
02:35 - Attempts to Recreate
03:46 - How it Works
06:11 - What Does it Skip?
08:58 -Records Get Set
11:11 - Boba Skip Song - Hry
I love that speedrunners kept the name Boba skip despite her not being part of the speedrunning community at all.
Normally how it works. You find the skip it is either named after you, or if it involves something specific.
@@Born... exactly. It’s only fair. Part of the scene or not, she discovered a skip which nobody else knew of
@@borby4584 yea but on the other hand she did ask for the skip to not have her name, but instead be called "kevin"
We respect the person that first did it. Plus boba and her community was so great and nice welcoming us when we joined her community as much as we welcomed their viewers to our groups
Technically she has become part of the community through her contribution
Imagine streaming a game like normal and you accidentally make speedruning history
It's a weird dream of mine. Seriously. lol. I don't stream though so hopefully if something happens I can figure out how to recreate it or try to explain through text to the community..
Speed runes rule
Something similar happened to a game I run once. A person came in chat when I was running it and told me of a glitch they found by accident as a kid when they played the game far far too much. They explained how to do it after a PB attempt died and I was utterly flabbergasted at how out of nowhere it was, it didn't use any known tech at all. Naturally we named the skip after them, though it helped that their name had the word "goop" in it and it was for a game about slime.
Wasnt something they streamed but it was a sizeable discovery that got brought out of nowhere.
I've hopped into a few speedrun discords over the years to report on any weird clips I got in casual play. Sometimes it's not something they're aware of, but ends up being irrelevant to the route regardless. But hey you never know if you randomly struck gold, so it doesn't hurt to share your findings.
I have discovered a 20+ second skip in a game before and it's an amazing feeling. Every record since has used it, so I know I've made my mark even if it's not me personally running the game.
And suddenly you hear the SummoningSalt intro
I love how she said "get rekt speedrunners"
oops HEHE
@@boba69 Waht
@@boba69 I liked your song at the end 👍
@@boba69 legendary you are
@@boba69 No oops there. They had been trying on purpose for years, and you pwned them on accident in your first play. If you asked them, they'd say, "Yeah, we got rekt and could not be happier. Thank you boba."
This is why it's so entertaining to keep up with speedrunning. At any moment a random person can come out of nowhere and completely change the game. Most of the big skips in Elden Ring were discovered by casual players, but it still takes a lot of hard-work from the runners, glitch-hunters, and community to figure out and refine them.
That's basically what happened with Goldeneye 64. Random dude got an unbelievable time on streets level, all because he looked at his feet.
@@jclindsay007 I heard about this! But the community was in a frenzy since it wasn't as entertaining to watch/do since.. it was mostly just the floor so they were kind of arguing about if it should be really allowed or not
"IS THIS A BUG?"
no its a snake
@@jclindsay007 you o lv mb mm mom
My cat reached over and put his paw on my phone, accidentally typing that in the process. I hope this brightens your day
I can?! Awesome!
“Snake, the door is frozen. You can’t use it.”
“No.”
I think runs using this glitch should be invalid unless you sing "I am the best at video games" after the skip
This is some speedrun lore I can get behind
I'm pretty sure the singing of the song is the only thing keeping TOSers from replicating the bug.
This is definitely gonna happen at a GDQ.
@@Erlewyn they did the run at AGDQ back in January
i loved the song LOL she is the best at video games
Don't forget - official speedrunning tournaments require anyone using the Boba Skip to sing the song as part of the skip, or it won't be recognised.
Heck yeah.
I want to believe this so hard
@@DanielVCOliveira it's true trust me
Thanks for covering the boba skip! It’s a great little thing that just threw us all off and scrambled every board because we had like 2 minutes to 2:30 minutes to save for free. It was crazy being part of the discord that day and sitting in the voice chat with 20 people trying to replicate what boba has done. Thankfully we made it work 😌
Also… good thing we really made sure to archive many points of the story as I watch this. Important updates and findings where found and you could easily recover them I hope. Who knows what’s next in the Metal gear speedrunning storyline, but I’m here to watch it unfold 😄👍
Kevin
Kevin!
I constantly watch the Yogscast, and the fact that boba of all people found this is insane. That entire group shares 1 braincell (and I love them for it)
@@LoL-fy4ir home alone reference?
Worth mentioning that when Boba was told she got to name the skip, she decided to name it Kevin.
"Alright, we're at the door. Time to set up to do Kevin."
@@mastermewtwo5503 “Come here Kevin” speedrunner proceed to aggresively do him
kid named kevin
Live kevin reaction
That's why men name things
The funnier part of this whole saga is that one of her costars in the Yogscast (Ravs) has a Solid Snake avatar and is constantly hailed as the king of stealth. She just effectively stole his thunder
So she was just destracting the world while her costar finished a stealth mission. Truly the king of stealth.
Shes the venom snake to his naked snake
Liquid Ravs
@@redstealth5106 punished ravs
@@samcavanagh7993 Big ravs
Sometimes the best skips / glitches are found when you aren't even trying to find them.
It's like trying to find your keys. When you actively look for it you can't find it but when you are not trying you find it.
I broke Trade Wars 2001 by accident.
I found a bug where upgrading a port to its maximum capacity failed to deduct the money that was supposed to be paid. Any other amount did not trigger the bug, it had to be the maximum amount, so it required gathering a few million credits first. But upgraded ports are great for making money, _and_ it gives you good Karma. So this opened up a nasty way to play the game: go evil early, play it profitably, and then upgrade some ports (you can use the same money over and over!) which pretty quickly flips your Karma back to positive, at which point you can go collect all the benefits of being a Good Guy!
I reported the bug to the author after discovering it on my own BBS. I got no response. I shared the knowledge with some other local BBS owners who confirmed it and told the author... and got no response. So we taught even more people and proceeded to wreck games all over the country. _We never got a response._
Well, not officially at least. But Trade Wars 2002 came out about three months later and didn't have the bug...
Is that Confucius or Socrates?
"And while these weren't planted in the game by Kojima for the players to find"
That *definitely* sounds like something Kojima would do
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kojima actually did put ‘glitches’ in on purpose. It fits his vibes.
@@fiascothe63rd There’s an infinite you can do against Liquid that seems like a glitch but was totally intentional, he showed it off in (I believe) a Famitsu interview in the 90’s. That’s the closest thing I can think of.
I mean the door's hitbox *was* placed closer to the door...
It's such a kojima thing to do I guarantee he's done it
getting a skip named after you is actually one of the coolest things a person can have
Boba is such a treat, she is like a character who turned up her Luck to 10. First she joins the Yogscast after a decade of being a huge fan of theirs. Then is immediately wins the hearts of the community with her cheerful presence. And then she accidentally discovers one in a lifetime rare gaming events.
Whatever storyline our World is, she is definitely one of the protagonists.
You could say that she is living the best life ever cause she beat the video game.
I think it should be considered that she might not in fact be the first one to run into this, but rather that she's the first one with both knowledge of speedrunning AND a audience to cater to. There may have been a handful of persons who have accomplished this since the game was released, but simply not have known its value. "LOL GAME B BUGGY" giggles are had for a few seconds and life goes on for them. Even if such a person had somehow bragged about this, who would have believed them without video evidence? Hell, unless it was streamed, people might just think it is some cry for attention since people edit fake shit together on CZcams all the time. "You clipped through that door while hundreds of speedrunners haven't discovered this despite wanting it to exist? Sure buddy, and pigs fly, too."
Boba would still be lucky, but I don't think the glitch discovery itself is as rare of an event as it is. What is noteworthy though is for all those things to happen to one person, but c'est la vie. Life is weird that way.
@@Aviertje Yikes, what a braindead take. Devaluing an accomplishment because "oh yeah i bet she wasnt even the first one to find it". What a long-winded comment that could be summed up as "this isnt even cool shes lucky she has an audience"
Yea all the protagonists are definitely gamers. for sure.
Shame yogs history is sucky. Kickstarter?
Casuals and new players are always needed because in anything any game any hobby you'll always find something new by accident before you'll find it by looking (more often then not) a new user allows for new exploration since we all play games different but in a speedrun we tend to try things in the fastest way possible. Causals however purely play for fun and to entertain themselves of others
With the increase in people streaming games casually we should see an increase in glitches like these being found! Great video keep up the great work!
11:30 The Boba Skip song was truly endearing ❤️
and snake dancing to it lmao I love it
love how they name skips after the people who discover them
Science
alright, the boba skip song is 100% the best part of this!
The Yogscast is my favourite thing on youtube/twitch, Boba is a fantastic addition to the network, lovely.
Imagine unintentionally getting the Speedrun world record discovering a glitch by accident in a casual playthrough.
Genuinely curious has this ever happened in speed running?
That would have to be a massive skip, like a credits warp or cutting out half of the game. But I bet it has happened
Zool's game-breaking credits warp was found by accident by a speedrunner.
I think it happened in Trackmania once
edit: : ¨When a streamer accidently gets a world record¨
@@Levi463 it's a lot more likely to happen in a racing game for sure
IIRC, Vinesauce Joel found a skip in a bootleg Pokémon platformer game, where he could get stuck mid-air and would automatically hover to the end
Granted, It's not really breaking world records when nobody else is running the game, but it was casual streaming
This is awesome! My own contribution to MGS (3) is finding an instant death glitch by rolling into a specific wall, which is damn useless to I never bothered to share it XD
You never know, maybe it _could_ be useful in combination with another glitch or something
This is why I like to watch players that arent good at a game, mess up, get damaged, try different tactics than I normally use. They tend to stumble on some random glitches or secrets.
Every runnner should be required to sing the discovery song plus doing a little celebration dance.
I actually had a *very* similar glitch earlier this year. I was trying to figure out where was I supposed to plant the C4 in the armory before the Revolver Ocelot boss. Trying to place the C4 on the bottom left corner of the map, I somehow phased through the wall, into the other side of the destroyed wall, except I hadn't actually destroyed the wall, and going back to the other side, it still wasn't destroyed. I chalked it up to an emulation glitch because I was unable to replicate it, and I was having bugs where sometimes I'd bug out of wall collision, stuck into random objects or even into the endless void, which was fixed after either changing the disc read speedup settings back to stock, or changing to a different emulator, forget which.
I used to play this game a lot when i was young. I remember the game "breaking" without enemies and no music in a couple of places after phasing, like you describe. It used to happen right after getting damaged. This bug, it happened more than once in my plays, and i remember loading a previous save because you loose a bunch of bullets by skiping the top and rappeling. Most people that run in bugs are not speed runner's or streamers. Just gamers.
Just for those who don't know, the Yogscast is an OG CZcams channel based in the UK, right up there with Smosh, Pewdiepie, and Ray William Johnson.
They've been making videos since 2008, 2 years before Pewdiepie started his channel.
Boba here is a new member, among the influx of new members brought in over the past 2 to 4 years.
They started out as a World of Warcraft guild, the Ye Olde Goone Squad, which was later shortened into YOGScast when they branched out into other games.
One of those game was Minecraft, now that may sound mundane from a modern perspective, but the thing is, they were among the _first_ to make Minecraft content on CZcams, and what's more, the simple let's play they started turned into one of the most famous machinima series there was, Shadow of Israphel, standing right alongside Red vs. Blue during the height of its popularity.
There's more I could talk about, but the gist is that they pioneered a lot of what modern CZcams is.
Unfortunately, they've gradually fallen off in popularity, no thanks in part to members leaving over time, like Panda, and others leaving due to scandals, like with Sjin, or just gradually drifting away from the brand like with Sips and Inthelittlewood.
The main two heads, Lewis and Simon, are still front and center, though.
They're still pretty big in the UK. Right before the pandemic they where still massive, with yogcon, jingle jam meetups, etc. The meetup I helped run for 2019 jingle jam ended up having far far more people than legally allowed in bristol lmao and that was just random locals/people that could easily get there.
And they’re the originators of diggy diggy hole, something for which we are all eternally grateful
Martyn is still a member btw
@@finleyjennings6051 thanks, corrected that.
arent some people from it also dlc in sonic and sega racing lmao
Dang that is a good skip! I also love to hear the support from the Speedrun community to delve into this accidental finding as a possibility and taking it seriously. So many communities get to a point where toxicity would have lashed out calling the accidental skip "faked" and dismiss it. This video isn't just about a speedrun stat history but a reflection of hope for humanity.
They might've been far more sceptical if this was done as part of a "look at me breaking the WR in this game" - but the fact she just randomly stumbled upon it.. yeah, she wasn't even trying, is what I'm saying.
"So you like AZURE DREAMS"
bruh I fricken LOVE Azure Dreams
I'm actually a mod for Azure Dreams speedrunning of the GBC version, it was the first game I ever speedrun and developed strats for.
Very interesting videos you have here. You go in depth, but it doesn't fall apart into jargon.
Boba Skip Song is wholesome as fuck. If I dont see any Remixes done, I will be very disappointed.
A number of remixes have been posted, some of them by Tom(?) of the yogscast network that boba belongs to are rather good.
It should be required for all runners to sing the song after using the skip
... "for games that are over quarter century old" Fuck, that hit hard
Was the Boba skip song a reference to something else, or was it entirely improvised?
It was just Boba being Boba. She's a wonderfully looney woman.
This feels like one of those movie moments when the least expected person seems to figure out the solution to the problem by accident.
Gotta feel awesome to be indavertantly part of Speedrunning history and having your name stamped on the skip..I love it!!
Your videos are the best. It's like Summoning Salt but way more often.
Freaking cool video man, I love "speedrun mechanics explained" videos. Youve definitely been added to my epic speedrunners list of Tomatoanus, Summoningsalt and Maximum!!
I love how some random streamer ended up completely revolutionizing the speed running of a game, by complete accident.
Love your videos. I've watched every single one of them. Keep it up my guy ❤️
Hey man just wanted to say im a huge fan of your videos. I dont even play any of these games but i find them really fun to watch
Thanks, keeping you all entertained and informed is why I'm here.
this is true, I never played MGS but I found this video very entertaining to watch! OP did a great job explaining the glitch
"Snake, how did you do that? That door is frozen shut!"
"Hrrghngh, Boba Skip."
_"...What?"_
long time Yogscast fan. like LONG time fan. when this first happened it was like a big mashup of some of my favorite video game communities. fun story
I love how angry she got when she glitched through the door
Blows my mind the number of things that would have to line up just right for this to happen
i think its 3 he said it in the video lol
Gotta love a skip that's usable in multiple categories.
I'll always laugh over this because its just such a bizarre set of events. Ravs being jokingly mad because she found a huge skip in a series that was his brand, the immediate breaking into song, and her naming the skip Kevin. Chefs kiss.
Really cool that she found that by accident, but as for the speedrunning community i must say that it seems like quite the major oversight.
If the growing hitbox was a known mechanic, then you'd think someone would run around trying to use it on every important door in the game, but apparently not...
they did try, but the conditions for it are fairly specific and it doesn't work with literally any other door
IT's a combination of a dozen different things. There are glitch hunters who do exactly what you're describing, but it would be hours of time to get to this room and test everything, and not something that would've been considered. It's the hindsight of the trick that makes it seem so obvious.
That Boba song is str8 fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love that she has a little song for the skip, omg 😻😻😻
its so cool how a person who is on their literal first playthrough of the game completely randomly finds an accidental skip, and gets it named after them!
Its tradition in speedrunning to name skips after the person who found them if it wasn't a group effort or if that person already has a glitch named after them its called something else
This reminds me of a prison cell door glitch that was popularized recently in Golden Eye. A emulator speedrunner had done it for a while and he even had a youtube channel. All the pros play on the original N64, and one of them eventually stumbled onto his videos.
Stuff like this kind of makes speedrunners feel like idiots. When you see a locked door, you should try to glitch through it. It feels so obvious.
Also the "look down to move faster". A speedrunner had taken a euphemism too literally from a walkthrough ("Do x thing, then put your nose to the ground and run for it" or something similar), and literally looked down the whole time he was running in the game. The increased frame rate from not rendering the environment made his times way faster.
@@shademillith That was such a beautiful story :') May he rest in peace.
Just to be clear. Is the Boba Skip Song now obligatory for MGS speed running?
She is truly the best at video games
You’re down horrendous bruh, 2831 videos in your bikini playlist??
or luckiest
2,889 now, wonder how many of them aren't 18 yet
This chick not only made speed running history on accident, but she threw down a theme song afterwards to cement her victory in the epilogues of the internet.
I already knew about the skip and it's history. I just clicked this video to hear the song again. Wasn't disappointed.
ur videos are genuinely amazing!
I love her camera UI idea, never seen that before.
Love speedrunning videos and MGS. Great vid bro
I remember randomly renting MGS from Blockbuster over Christmas break in 1999 and being absolutely blown away by it. All these years later, it's nice to see it still entertaining people so much.
I remember watching Twitch the night that happened and like four different people I follow stopped what they were doing to go and watch the Boba Skip clip. It was wild because all four channels have different content but "streamer finds speedrun skip by accident" was something everyone could get excited about
😂I like how Boba use her two extra minutes to just gloat and sing and dance her own praises.
always great to see small unknown streamer stumbling onto things
that's awesome, so glad to see new breakthrough for a game as classic as MGS.
Imagine you accidentally make an insane precise speedrun glitch no one found yet in a f*cking casual playthrough XD
This is not thefirst time this happened ,within these communities they generally name the skip after the person that found it(happens when a non speedrunner finds the skip)
this is funny to see that a streamer/yt found the glitch/skip for a speedrun on accident and now it is a true skip for speedruns. This is awesome and the song she did afterward was amazing. Great to see her so happy, not excited just happy.
only boba could discover something like this, amazing!
Snakes hitboxes expanding in not only smash brawl, but in his own games too.
It was thanks to this skip that I was able to beat the entire game without taking any steps!
Playing it casually and then finding and getting a skip named after you! Awesome!
nice video, only slight correction to prevent confusion is that the proper term would be hurtbox not hitbox
hitbox = the vector/box/poligon that will determine set outcome when it's being active and come into contact with a hurtbox/surface/vector etc
hurtbox = a normally persistent box that determine an outcome when comes in contact with a hitbox (unless there's invul frames present)
I had no idea, great job boba
She understood that this is massive for speedruns immediately
I love how smug and happy she looked after doing it
This is so cool. Awesome that they called it Boba skip too.
I love that she made up a little song for it.
That song was amazing hahaha
Great job on the video
I had a similar experience with Resident Evil 3 years ago. It was during one of the first bits of the game when Jill runs through a door, I don't know what the hell I pressed on my console pad but all of a sudden I was at a different part of the game.
I like to think I've accidentally found a speedrun-breaking glitch while playing a game and didn't know it
(ie. something like this is obvious, but what if I got some weird glitch that made me freeze up split second or I dropped an item and it landed weirdly, yk, things that might be useful to some speedrun category I'd never have guessed would want something like that)
This reminds me of the guy who invented penicillin. Completely accident, extremely beneficial.
Yes, a similarly significant discovery.
@@Agedude lmfao 🤣
Nice video as always
All I can hear is the *WHARRRM* of a summoning salt video
That's awesome, I remember finding a way to skip the second to last boss in the original metal gear on the NES. That was pre-internet though, and probably before speed running was a thing.
Makes speedrunning history
Boba "why do i hear Home - We're finally landing"
Summoning salt enters the chat
Stuff like this is why I love the speedrunning community. Someone blindly stumbles across a major skip and the community fully embraces it anyway. No saying that it's invalid because they're not a speedrunner, no accusations of cheating. Just a great community enjoying an accidental breakthrough.
How would it be invalid based by who found it? It can either be replicated or not, no matter who found it
I bet some kid done this in the 90s by accident and thought nothing of it.
Thanks for another great video.
The song was wonderful! :D
Having a skip named for you is one of the higher honors in gaming, speedrunner or not
Side note but her facecam set up to look like the Codec is brilliant
A speedrunner figured out a set up to do the skip with the SoCa gun... Which was exactly what Boba did when she discovered it. Just happened to line herself up the exact correct way with the correct gun.
Imagine you are playing for thousands of hours tearing it apart at the seams trying to find the fastest way to beat a game and someone who isnt even a part of a community finds a huge skip by accident that has got to be simultaneously the most frustrating and funny thing to ever experience i love how the skip is still named after her goes to show how awesome the speedrun community is
I had a friend in high school that just "discovered bugs" and "accidentally crashed servers" with the stuff he got up to. He was a game developer's worst nightmare by just being himself.
*unpaid betatester.
You should love the people who show you weaknesses in your software, as there are as well those that will keep it secret and try to profit.
Tested some stuff for a friend as well. He was rather glad that a dumb setting, that allowed the user to write in the TOS and Help section, could be fixed prior to going public.
the boba skip song was 🔥🔥🔥
when i played this as kid did same thing too was like wtf did my game broke was so young then didn't know what bug or glitch was
super cool video... i love this kind o content =)
That's a magnificent story, I love it
Before you dropped her name, i saw the still frame of her webcam and thought, "haha, she kinda looks like yogscast Boba... wait that *is* yogscast boba!" 😂 I had no idea she'd discovered something like this! thats super awesome
Gotta respect the energy of "discover new bug > immediately improv song about it"
The flex song was something I have seen no speed runner do as well :p
Skips 25 minutes you really need to show us this skip, Love the content