The Tragic Downfall of Franklin Saint
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He could’ve took the L and dipped with 800k, and lived good with his lady and baby. He probably would’ve been a millionaire again if he sold the downtown property. But pride, greed and arrogance had fully consumed him by then.
And he still DESERVED his end
exactly
Franklin my nigga but he FUCKED UP by putting 73 million in that offshore bank account Smh… This is Why Ghost from Power was “That Nigga” He knew and was proficient in Cleaning his Dirty Money 💵 without having offshore accounts and could not be tied to any crime and was legitimately clean 🧼 at the end of the series.. Franklin knew how to make that money and profits but had 0 ideas on how to hide his money nor wisely invest his money or wash his dirty money and had to ask Avi on how to clean his money.. Teddy knew this and took advantage of this…. Someone like Ghost would of never have gotten jacked by Teddy and would of gotten rid of Teddy easily…
@@gsmoneybabyxxl7575 Franklin never kept his money in one account tho lol. When he found out his money was missing he told V “ALL” the accounts have been wiped clean. Teddy broke into his office and stole all the account information and that’s why V mom said Teddy had help moving the money cause he couldn’t clean all the accounts out by himself that quick. Offshore account or not Teddy was going to rob him regardless
He weren’t tryna accept a $73M L understandably
Leon's character development is world-class man
I love Leon always have he was the one with the the brains and and heart you come up on him he will handle his Business though and he took care of his Crew Loyalty is the Key,you just cannot Trust everyone and you can spot on the un loyal ones
like they said "after taking a childs life some men change"
@@winstonmthini2891 indeed
No cap! I'm so damn proud of my boi. He made it out clean and a new man. He was such a damn thug in the beginning now he's like Mandela all enlightened and everything. I was so blown away
@@lesliesyville8560 bro he slimed Franklin out. He could’ve gave him the bread at the end because Franklin was the only reason he had it. Leon a snake
Props to Damson Idris. That was some of the best character portrayal I've seen to date.
💯💯💯💯💯💯
It really was
One of the best actors I’ve seen in a long time
@@approving9632 facts
I still can't get over how he is Nigerian and lived most of his life in England. His accent never slips on the show.
Louie at fault for all of this. She helped him sell his first brick. She was the one that went to Teddy behind Saint's back which led to him being robbed. She manipulated tf out of Jerome too. Idgaf what anyone says, Louie's the villain in this story and the fact that she was not held accountable for any of this pisses me tf off. At least Oso and Lee had a decent ending. RIP Unc Rome.
Franklins biggest mistake was not killing her
And he still was a real one letting her know she was bout to get raided
In my opinion it was much better keeping her alive now she has to live with all the trauma and damage she has done thinking about Jerome death every day, also while watching her back as she on the run. Much better than just ending her misery
THEY ALL WERE VILLAINS IT'S THE DRUG GAME
Sounds like an excuse
That scene while he visited his mom for the 2nd time in jail is insane, i keep rewatching it. The screaming from him, and the silence of Cissy combined just really makes the scene.
Facts. Bc in reality, if a person properly prepares to have children, their children won’t have to resort to that lifestyle.
@@WyldWillow He didn't 'HAVE' to resort to the lifestyle...he was in college and 'DECIDED' to drop out if Im not mistaken. His decisions were his alone, not because his mom wasn't 'PREPARED' to have him, SMH...ya'll go online and say anything...
@@brandimoore3020 he didn’t drop out. He was kicked out Bc tuition was high asf
@@brandimoore3020 he couldn’t afford to go to college. He didn’t just drop out.
@@Lifeof_brob that’s still not an excuse. U always have choices in life and your life’s path is determined by those choices. It’s called accountability
We can say it is easy to walk away with 800k, since the vast majority of us would never see that amount of money ever in life. But from Franklin's perspective, with all the things he did and went through to get that 73 million, walking away with just 800k is unfathomable.
It wasn't just ego and feelings. Franklin was delusional and dealing with actual mental illness by the end. Even after Veronique left him, Franklin could have still sold the Spring Street property and recouped at least a couple or few million. Letting that property go into foreclosure was just plain crazy. Even crazier was the fact that on probably the exact same day the bank was foreclosing on the Spring Street property, Franklin killed three people in Monrovia trying to recover funds from the crackhead (Peaches) who had robbed him a year earlier.
100%
True but he coulda make it back. Better then sinking completely and losing your mind in the process.
@@Saint0999 They tried to do too much in the finale. I didn't have a problem with Franklin's outcome, but instead with how they got there. They fleshed out every other storyline in season 6 and then glossed over whatever was going on with Franklin to the point that some of his actions seemed out of character and bizarre to the audience.
In addition, two essential scenes were missing. They should have had Cissy speak her truth about why she shot Teddy at the exact moment she did, maybe in her conversation with Leon. They could have had Havemeyer reveal what was really going on at that park, maybe in a conversation with another colleague at the CIA. The storylines with the DEA and the KGB basically went up and smoke at the end, and some of that could have been cut earlier in season 6 to give us what we needed in the finale.
Understood but money flows in and out, there’s always another opportunity to make more. He had a clean way to do it this time via the investments and properties he owned but chose greed
Honestly speaking I'm a huge fan of Franklin but when you think of the things that he had done, from taking the elderly couple's library and selling it, to kicking people out of the shelter to find his father. He really did deserve his end. Plus the series had given us all of the possible consequences of being in the drug game. Death= Jerome, Life on the run = Louie, Poverty = Franklin, Prison = Cissy and Redemption by leaving your life to be a better person= Leon.
I truly do think that if franklin ended up getting his half he would’ve just lived a good life with his family. After all he was the way he way because he wanted his money and I feel like if he got it he wouldn’t not have stayed that way. In reality eveb though cissys message was right she tried to imply that msg way to late. So yes you can say she ruined his life.
"Noughts Had, All spent."
Louie said he was the devil and he agreed with her
@@InitiationcanceledFranklin was far gone anyways at that point like Leon said he was going to put hisself in a predicament that he couldn’t pull himself from .. and so he did
Mannn I forgot about the library
"You were my best friend, best friend i ever f*cking had... And im proud of you" probably the saddest scene I've ever watched
Yeslord
what's crazier is that was adlibbed
@@notorietymachine you mean ADR, happens more times than you think in film, sometimes the priority is the shot and not the audio, so additional dialogue recording gets done in post, also why actors get paid so much, because they gotta perform it exactly as it's shot.
@@franklynanderson nah ad libbed as in it wasn’t in the script and no one was expecting it but idris
@@notorietymachine freestyled, the best things Are often unintended
So I rewatched the entire show again.. money doesn’t change us, it just makes us more of what we already are. Franklin always thought Leon and everyone was beneath him. Remember the book Leon asked him to read and he never touched? Franklin was already on a high horse and had no sense of responsibility.. which were the traits that made him wealthy. The fact that Franklin thought he could just walk away from this game after everyone told him you can’t just exit this game.. shows how Franklin always thought he was untouchable. He was like this from the beginning
Edit: this is also a scene when Franklin is joking about Leon saving money in a shoe box, which is irnonic because if Franklin did stash money in an “old school” manner he wouldn’t have been left with nothing
It’s ironic because it was actually his overestimation of/higher expectations for Teddy that began his downfall. He believed Teddy to be a man of integrity and thought they had a mutual respect. Teddy took advantage of that and showed Franklin that he saw him the way Franklin saw everyone else.
Best fucking comment...i just know you're great to talk too
I can tell you too grew up being observant, and watched the old heads around you too.
Shoutout to Peaches
You're right about that if Franklin did stash money in an “old school” manner he wouldn’t have been left with nothing.
I do believe that it is peaches and mel dad fault that frankin change his way of stashing money.
The cosmic joke of it is that the $12,000 in the safe is just the right amount he'd need to buy another brick. Franklin's right back at the start again.
Damson Idris. This man should when an honorary degree for best actor. He killed it as Franklin!
You mean the devil because that's who helped him
was only over acting if you want to see real good character portrayal watch 12 years a slave
What is an "honorary degree for best actor"?
@@The_don_barbieWhat?
When 😂
The thing that always gets me is the parallels between Teddy and Franklin. Just how Teddy felt he could take the money from Franklin because it was basically his operation is the same thing Franklin tells everyone when he needs the money from them. Robbed Jerome and Louie with the same mentality Tedddy had for him.
Yup
& tried to take from Leon too
Franklin was greedy as hell season one he was happy with one kilo fast forward to season 5 he buying 300 kilos a week still wasn’t enough:
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🤓 holy shit we got a genius over here !!!!
I’m at the start of the video, and I’ll CLEARLY state this now. Franklin did not ruin his relationship with Louie (and Jerome by proxy). Louie was always a snake going behind Jerome’s back to make big decisions on her own, and it was her choice to undercut Franklin that ruined their relationship (which is the only reason Franklin even spiraled the way he did mentally).
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Eh. The business ending in fire was Louie’s fault. But u just objectively didn’t watch the show if u think that’s the reason why Franklin lost his mind. Lmao he was corrupted almost fully by season 5, but of Louie didn’t go behind his back and create that domino effect of bull shit, he prolly would have been aight. But Franklin since season 4 lost himself. Killing without even flinching. A super controlling and maniacal kingpin. Franklin through lost himself do to greed, arrogance and pride. Franklin didn’t have to lose everything if he didn’t continue to go deeper down that hole bro lmao. So na. It isn’t ALL Louie’s fault but she is a big part
@@Saint0999 You wrote this whole comment just to be wrong because you don’t know what “spiraled” means. When someone “spirals”, it is typically in relation to a descent into madness or something of the sort. I was specifically talking about the increasing desperation and self-destructive behaviors that led to him becoming a mirror of his father at the end of the show. Franklin was a lot of things before his empire began to crumble, but he was neither reckless nor impulsive by the time we see him at the top of the game. It was Louie’s (and subsequently Teddy’s) betrayal that turned him into that.
@@Watermelon_Manfacts
I love how people's biggest issue with Louie is that she was never punished or held accountable, but those same people completely absolve Franklin of blame at every turn. Franklin knows what he is and y'all do too, y'all get blinded by the money and power just like him. Franklin started all of this. He went off on his own and learned how to cook rock, taught others in the neighborhood and sold it to people in the neighborhood. Louie only had power because Franklin gave it to her. Franklin caused his own downfall through and through.
The ending of "Snowfall" is so great. Its like, you (the viewer) feels that Franklin deserves this downfall but part of you, also, kind of sympathizes with him. Very powerful storytelling. Truly amazing.
I feel like with all the REAL crimes going on he deserved it but from a fictional standpoint & character development in general the unconnected dots make no sense. Imo the last 2 episodes were missing a lot of important things, still an S Tier show though
I disagree I feel like Franklin didn’t deserve his downfall
@@jackryan9073 why tho?
No
@@jackryan9073frll he deserved to get that 73 mil back smh sissy ruined it
Franklin was truly a product of his environment to an almost text book level, AVI once told him that what makes Franklin special is that fact he has the choice to be anything he wants, i believe this is largely due to the vast variety of positive and negative influences in his life, Franklin was empty plot of land ready to be built upon, truly multifaceted and very talented individual, everyone loved Franklin, believed in Franklin and respected Franklin, but unfortunately everyone saw the Strength and potential in Franklin Saint but Franklin himself - You would think that more than any other character in this show, Franklin himself would have the ability to reform and come back from rock bottom yet he was the only character in the show that couldn't, Leon, Cissy, Oso, Jerome, Skully, Alton and Wanda all escaped but Franklin wasn't able too, which I think is the deepest and best plot point for me.
Amazing analysis🔥🔥
Genuinely very good breakdown
Everyone you named either died or only escaped because of Franklin sacrifices
@darkswaggboss9059 that may be your interpretation of it but their circumstances were ultimately made worse by Franklin, when Franklin had to make sacrifeces, he sacrificed the people closest to him, and 1 by 1 they left him - you may be forgetting that every single person in Franklins life had a part in making him into the person he became, stop looking at Franklin as a person and more like an investment becausebthats truly what he was - and the proof in this theory is that, once everyone started to leave whether they died or otherwise his situation only got worse, Franklin was the Ship and the people around him were his crew, with no crew to sail a ship, it wont stay a float - Greed and Entitlement destroyed him and it didnt have too, his family told him countless times to leave whilst he was ahead and he did not listen - but they say absolute power corrupts absolutely and its Tragic because Franklin had it all but didnt see it until he lost it
@@darkswaggboss9059everyone else changed, regardless if Franklin made sacrifices or not. His mother sacrificed herself so he could do the same. Also, Jerome was on the precipice of realizing his position as implied by his final conversation with Franklin and Alton very well did come to this realization. Franklin has not even sniffed this
The bloodshot eye when he's an alcoholic is such a pristine detail
Why
@@rubennn1 Because that's one of the most common but unknown details with alcoholics. Everybody thinks their eyes turn yellow, but one of their eyes usually begins to turn bloodhot
@@rubennn1to much alcohol in his system
@@rubennn1made him look like a literal devil
The irony of $12k is that was to cost of Franklins’ first ki. As if he could startup all over again. I think that’s why he expressed a painful laugh and then weep before killing the innocents at Peaches’ safe.
Let’s be honest you can’t start anything with $12k
@@Atalaia56bro back in the 80s you sure as fuck can only problem is Franklin a hot boy he’ll have to look over his shoulders
A lot of folks haven’t realized something. Cissy decision was a selfish one. She did it cuz of the feelings for Alton & cuz teddy didn’t see her as a threat. It had nothing to do with Franklin it was all about her. When you rewatch the seasons multiple times you book that
That’s what makes me so angry about people saying she “sacrificed” herself. The same impact would’ve been felt had she waited 10 more seconds.
Her and Louie really did it for me.
facts that’s why she asked him about alton where abouts right before she shot him but he was lying all along .if he would have told her he going to tell her once he gets to safety she wouldn’t have killed him. bcuz she was hoping alton was alive.
Damn that is true...
she literally said she wanted teddy to know it was her who ended him in the kitchen scene
Wrong
The finale of snowfall kinda showed peoples character. There werent many people around me who understood the psychology of this nor did they blame Franklin at all. They blamed everyone BUT him. This show was so good on so many levels I never been so into a show and had the opportunity to analyze the psyche. It’s so deep.
From the moment Kevin’s little cousin got killed and Franklin didn’t want to avenge them, I knew he’d cause his own downfall, to me it showed even from that single action all he cared about was money and himself, no compassion
I don't think Franklin was any worse than Louie Jerome or Teddy. He should have hid his money and not tell anyone where it was. I would have left town and started a new life. Why can't a Blackman catch a break even though he was selling illegal drugs. The worst of all was Louie. She was jealous of Franklin and pulled Jerome from his family. She blamed him for everything.
@@user-zs3bu4gj3bLouie is the root of all evil
@@alakirthewindlord7828I think he made the right decision not avenging them,he did,but you’re right there was no compassion at all he didn’t really empathise with Kevin much and that’s where his problems lie
@@27hiddenintheleaves I can agree it was the right decision logically, but you’re right, the issue was the lack of compassion, he didn’t give a fuck they died, he had an “I told you so” attitude, really set the tone of Franklin’s character and personally I could tell from then he wouldn’t get some mad happy ending, and he didn’t deserve one
My interpretation of why Sissy on why she killed teddy was how he lied about Alton. Teddy was able to masterfully convince Sissy who is the most stubborn person in the show to believe Alton was still alive. Once he told her the truth, She realized that Teddy was still manipulating Franklin. So I’m her last loving act as his mother she killed him to protect Franklin
Yup. Teddy was already planning to leave the CIA, abscond with the cash and marry Parissa. The call was to make the final transfer into his account, and then have the Agency sic the hounds on Franklin while lying down on a beach earning 20% lol
I never thought about this, you've convinced me as well
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think what a lot of people dismiss about Franklin is that he’s incredibly young, he’s roughly 19-23 between seasons. To expect him to be this mastermind, seasoned kingpin with all these contingencies for hard times is giving him wayyyyy too much credit. Yes he was intelligent and calculated, but in reality he was still a kid. Character hadn’t even turned 25 yet before his downfall
yea people use alot of words to describe him but naive is the most definitive to me too.
nah franklin had the potential to do this he took himself and his people out of trouble multiple time in the beginning it was showing that he was fighting his good nature all the time to be the person he needed to be in order to run his business he was doing everything to hold his head high but by season 4 he wasnt fighting anymore. it was just who he was, and because he had lost that connection to who he once was he could only end the way that he did. a shell of a man.
In my opinion, Franklin’s pride and arrogance ultimately was his hubris. Granted Louie played a part as a catalyst in certain situations but ultimately she wanted her autonomy just like Franklin; but because he thought he was smarter than everyone and trusted the wrong ppl essentially, he caused his great demise. He also underestimated too many ppl, Leon included. Definitely a cautionary tale about excess and greed. Great documentary.
Ur smart
That didn’t give her an excuse to not help him when he needed it. Especially when she prompted teddy to take all his money.
She wanted "autonomy" because she wanted to take what Franklin already had and attempt to expand it into other major cities. Doubling or even tripling the money for herself. Franklin was in too deep to let that happen. Plus, Louie was not Franklin, she eventually would've got used and rolled over by Teddy and anybody else. You're selling heavy weight and got assassins tracking you down riding horses? Louie would've got wacked quick once she was considered useless.
Greed ? He risked his life and freedom building an empire and right when he was about to be out and be at peace they took eveything from him and he is greedy for wanting bsck what he rightfull earned
Tell the other black women bashers this. They're blaming Louie, and not holding Franklin accountable lol. Why am I not surprised lmao
If someone steals $73M dollars from you any sane man will go insane and do everything in there power to get that money back and go after the person who stole it from you. Franklin tried to leave the game but everyone around him fucked him and kept putting him down in the end he lost it and had to pursue the only thing that mattered most to him money. Louie is another person who caused the downfall of Franklin she had everything money, power, respect but still that wasn’t enough she wanted the ultimate power and wanted to become Franklin, she never acknowledged she has all this because of Franklin and she betrays him by going behind his back to Teddy. The question is if you was Franklin and you get robbed of $73M dollars are you going to forget everything and live you’re life when you have the motherfucker tied up and his willing to give you $37M dollars I don’t think you are, Franklin’s mom and Leon are telling him to stop and reassure him but they weren’t in his position they didn’t lose everything he worked for. Franklin did what he had to and in the process he lost everything and became the one thing he didn’t want to be his father, an alcoholic, non existent to society but saying that if the people around him we’re loyal and didn’t fuck him the downfall would’ve never happened imo.
It was all Louie fault honestly the true main antagonist of the story
Facts these people talking don't understand and don't put themselves in the situation to understand
@@ricaldoritchiebasketballvl651 lack of empathy runs rampant nowadays
Losing 78 million would send anyone over the edge. I have to admit that I have been guilty criticizing Franklin's inability to regroup after losing that money, because Franklin really didn't have to end up in the gutter.
Franklin showed poor judgment before and after Teddy took his money. Keeping tens of millions of illegal money *in banks* was foolish, as was repatriating that money to build a whole skyscraper in downtown LA. In addition, Franklin failed to take heed to what happened to Grady, and Franklin also should have had multiple stash locations with various confidants knowing about certain ones in particular and only Franklin knowing about all of them.
Teddy screwed up too. How do you steal someone's $73 million and don't leave town? When Teddy told Franklin during the torture session that he thought he could live with the consequences, Teddy revealed his own naivete about what the consequences could be.
After Franklin failed to recover his money from Teddy, it was time for Franklin to regroup. Even after Veronique took Franklin's $800k, Franklin still had the option of selling the Spring Street property and recouping some of the more than $10 million he had invested in that project. Letting their property go into foreclosure was way deeper than alcoholism. Franklin was both delusional and crazy by that point.
Even crazier was that Franklin killed three people in Monrovia trying to get money back from a crackhead who robbed him probably a year earlier on the exact day (give or take a day) the bank was foreclosing on the Spring Street property.
But that still doesn't make his actions justified. Just because someone steals from you doesn't give you the right to torchure, maim, kill, or even steal from them back.
That ending scene hit different, probably the best scene I’ve seen in my life no cap
I'm glad Jerome wasn't around to see what happened to his nephew
Even in the last scene with Leon, it’s still pretty clear that Franklin never accepted responsibility. After destroying his family, friends, and community. It was still everyone else’s fault but his.
I mean the nigga was drunk as shit and the police seizing his house as we speak, I don’t think that’s gon b the moment he admits “hey man I fucked a lot of families with that rock shit, at least I’m broke now tho”
Obviously Franklin made a lot of terrible decisions and ultimately deserved his fate, at least on a karmaic level. From a business standpoint though, Franklin never f*cked anyone that didn’t deserve it. So, let’s not pretend that everyone but Leon, Oso and Jerome didn’t betray him at one point or another. My point being, if everyone just shut up and did what Franklin said, there’s a much higher chance all of the characters in the show would be alive and wealthy instead of dead or in jail with their “pride”
@@Unironicunicorn5perfectly said
Franklin was the youngest, all the older guys failed him
@@Unironicunicorn5 On point❗️💯 Franklin was the youngest but yet Jerome who was suppose to be his mentor got pussy whipped by Louie into doing business without Franklin. I’m not saying Franklin hasn’t sound wrong but everyone he put on betrayed him.
Literally just finished watching the show finale and even though the ending upsetted me and yeah i can go off on all the people that made it out alive, i'll just say overall it was a 9/10 series for me, don't think i'll ever rewatch it but Franklin telling Leon that he was proud of him and both of em shedding tears was the most heartbreaking scene ever.
I wanna tip my hat off to you sir. This was an amazing, well spoken, beautifully edited documentary. You did an amazing job with this. I loved how you went as deep as to explain the psychology behind Franklin. Overall. Outstanding video and performance by you. Thank you for making this.
you got a hat?
@@iam.7509 yeah
@@TimeForAli can i have it👀
@@iam.7509 maybe. Only if you admit Jay Z is better than Nas
@@TimeForAli Wooow, cant do that one😭
literally wasn’t even his fault man. He got betrayed and reacted how any man would
exactly he tried to leave the game and got betrayed by his people. if he would’ve continued selling dea wouldve just got him or he would’ve had to leave the country living life as a federal fugitive
Yeah ,one key part I seen tho was at the end even though he looked defeated he said "I'm finally free'" . Despite all he went through and betrayal he found himself after
Nigga please 😂😂😂 Franklin was just at fault like literally everyone else
He was a drug dealer that destroyed his entire community. He betrayed his people.
Yes it was his fault. The entire point of these videos was to highlight franklin’s greed and the fact that he didn’t even need to start selling to begin with. From the moment he started sellin drugs. EVERYTHING in his life after was a consequence of that initial choice
This was SO damn good!! Made me want to start the whole series over. Hands down my favorite series ever yes Snowfall knocked Sex and the City down a peg!! East coast v West coast lol. Wonderful doc esp your commentary about why Cissy killed Teddy.
This was an amazing documentary. Well done.
Franklins biggest mistake was always announcing his plans to people, before he took any action. Everything could've been prevented if he moved all his money *First* and then told Teddy he was retiring. Same with Veronique. He told he everything and she drained his accounts (in her case rightfully so) before he could do anything
Nah, Not Rightfully So, That Wasn’t Her Money and She Swore She’d Never Put Her Kids in What Her Mother did to her but She’s a Liar and Did It Anyway. She Should’ve Never Went Behind Franklins Back AFTER KNOWING What Betrayal he just went through. She’s a Selfish, Lying Person No If Ands About It.
Telling plans first makes a good tv show
Tbh it’s truly unrealistic to withdraw/transfer 73mill in less of a day. Maybe I’m wrong. But you can put contingencies in place if someone tries to clear out your bank, offshore or not.
@GDSprodify bruh, yknow she did that only AFTER Franklin put his hands on her? That point she relized hes turning into a man she cant recognize, so she left before he imploded. Like many said before i would've taken the L, sold all the properties. And live with the 1-3 mill with my lady and child somewhere away from all this mess.
Ngl, This was really a great watch. I finished season 6 a few weeks ago, but even thinking about all of this overwhelms me, still. Snowfall opened my eyes up even wider to how important the arcs of each character in any body of work are. To me, a filmmaker/actor/artist, the details you’ve shone light on in this video and the previous Dark Psychology of Franklin, make my point even clearer that nothing good comes out of rushing, and if I want to be impactful in any way, I must continue to focus on the road less traveled (by that I mean continuing to learn, instead of looking for the “easy way”
What is it cold
Here's what everyone either forget to pay attention to or didn't carefully watched this particular episode that I'm gonna say right now. Season 5 Episode 7. That was the episode where Teddy started to steal Franklin's money. Teddy has a 2 min convo with William about what William needed from him without actually saying that he was planning on stealing Franklin's money. Check out that episode again.
Yes, so many people forgot that Teddy put the wheels in motion to take Franklin's money before Franklin told Teddy he was leaving the game and before Louis approached Teddy about taking over as distributor.
Teddy took all of Franklin's money to kill the Spring Street project and because Teddy never intended to let Franklin ride off into the sunset with that $73 million.
Franklin didn't take heed to what happened to Grady and ended up with almost the same outcome. It was CIA standard operating procedures for mules who stepped out of line or outlived their usefulness -- screw or eliminate the mule, and seize their assets.
At the time we couldn't know what it was about though. It actually looked like he wanted to transfer other funds
Yessir. Teddy wanted to eliminate Franklin since the Alton-Irene Abe debacle. It probably was one of his main reasons for keeping tabs on LA during his exile.
Then when he got shot by Kane's crew that was the final straw. The scene you mentioned is a slight detail that most people miss in even in the rewatches. Luckily for me, I've watched this show over almost ten times lol!
Teddy was going to burn Franklin regardless. The series of events between episode 8-10 in season 5, including Franklin threatening to kill him just sped up the process.
Everything thing came full circle a perfect ending movie, not one person involved left wiv out scars and the one who did the worse got the worse very realistic ending, hum and his father ending up the same
Nah I think Cissy ending worse
@@ahkenaten522 nah u build an empire all the respect then fall to the level of a homeless man is crazy 73M+ to 0 and ur on ma betrayed u
@@user-gd7yb8ww6i she’s in jail for life, and her son was the man who flooded the community with drugs and killed several people, and he didn’t want to change at all.
He still has a chance at life she doesn’t. That’s the biggest factor. Him having millions and being broke is not a fate worse than death, however you can argue that him being social isolated is worse, but he does that on his own terms.
@@ahkenaten522it’s poetic. Narratively Franklin got the worst bc of how it’s shown and where he came from. Bro ended up the worst way he could’ve and what HE feared the most. He didn’t fear death or jail as much as what happened to him. Sure objectively Cissy or Jerome got it worse but Franklin got it bad man.
@@Saint0999 I think Cissy and Louie got it the worst. Louie wanted it just as much as Franklin and now she’s on the run. At least he still has the chance to turn it around Jerome Louie and Cissy don’t get that opportunity
Louie is one of the biggest reason why this all happened, going back to the earlier seasons she left Jerome to go with Claudia all because Louie was being greedy and wanted all the money then fast forward she went behind Franklin back to teddy even when Franklin offered her a 50-50 split. Greed took over her and it caused her to lose Jerome
Hold on, let's not skip past holding Franklin accountable for selling drugs to his community in the first place and presenting it in everyone's life. But like the world already knows, black males will always blame the black women, lol. His Karma caught up to him. He lost everyone around him.
Was thinking about Franklin again at work today. Tbh Franklin could never be free in real life because he would have some many enemies. He killed so many ppl and ruined some many families. I can see a random enemy he didn’t even know about killing him cuz of somebody he killed years ago
Something that’s often so hard to watch is seeing a character lose what they’ve spent multiple seasons building. Franklins journey is tragic but I didn’t want to see him win. The teddy torture was pure evil. So relieved Oso got the good ending though!!
I mean when everyone who you put on betrayed you I could see why someone would turn different. He tortured teddy for his MONEY that he worked so hard for. I don’t get why everyone tryna make it seem like Franklin was the bad guy overall when everyone literally betrayed him. Y’all forgetting that Franklin actually was planning on getting out of the game until teddy found out and didn’t like that
@@kingkobra242”I don’t get why everyone sees Franklin as the bad guy” bro maybe you’re just as psychotic as him 😂
It doesn’t matter that he was betrayed. That gives you the right to attempt to kill your own father, try to strangle your wife and kill tons of people who some were innocent and had kids?
There is no good guy in this show. Just a bunch of evil people worshipping money and the only two who turned their lives around (Oso and Leon) were the only 2 who left it behind
@@avryeditz his bum ass dad who ain't did shit for him ? His wife who stole the remaining money n left? The innocent people who are the innocent people? I'm not saying Franklin is all good but let's not act like everyone was riding his gravy train smoothly until they wanted to branch off.
I don’t think many people know how hard it is to truly Espace from death. It’s uncontrollably difficult.
Bruh you broke it down amazingly. Keep up the good work man. No show has ever put me in the main character's place like this one.
I tried to watch Snowfall, couldn’t get into it, but saw how impactful it was on social media, how the ending affected people so it led me here to get an understanding. Franklin saw himself become the villain. From being not able to hurt his own enemy to slaughtering an innocent man, and from despising his father as a teen to growing to become his father. He became the villain he despised in every stage of his life. Thank you for this break down
he didn’t become his father man watch the show 😭😭😭
@@st0l3nd4rtsHe became a drunk, homeless, & has a kid that he’s not raising…that was his dad (or at least the version he hated most)
i wanted frank to win so badly, its a fitting ending but such a depressing one, i truly wish he never fell like he did
edit: mandem are taking my comment the wrong way 😂
i meant i wanted the good kid from s1 to succeed, not the murderous sociopath
Why do you want a demon to win??? What is going on in your life around that you see a vile demonic being in human flesh and say to yourself I want them to win? They destroyed their community they killed people they lied they stole they sold poison that helped diminish and rock people from the inside out causing generational curses that may never be unturned but I still want them to win? What is so sick in you that you crave this
Ngl Teddy a hoe for that fr😭 ,
You wanted him to continue poisoning his community???
@@jim3565 no prolly wanted him to get out the game like he said and only make business moves which he could’ve achieved if he wasn’t blinded by his greed for so long
@@jim3565 he was getting out the game lol no way you watched the show, he was on the way out the door
The fact it came back to the 12k he started with to create a full circle from ep1 what a show
Thanks for putting this hard work in. Great documentary
Cissy ruined his last chance at being saved, after that it was game over. Also “he should’ve accepted he got played” is INSANE. That’s the mindset that gets you punked at every turn in life.
The mindset he had from the start was a losing one. There are no shortcuts in life. This was his fate no matter what.
With 800k he could have went legit and made legal money, not accepting you got played and learning from it is the stupidest decision a person can make
If he would’ve taken his L, he would’ve left with 800k, his mom, his girl and kid. Instead he lost all that and he’s a alcoholic bum.
@@NotGahruvey his inability to accept and grow from his mistake no matter the size is his own doing
Franklin could have also probably recouped at least a few million from the Spring Street property. Franklin had invested at least $10 million in that property before he lost it in the foreclosure.
Having grown up around poverty I am extremely sympathetic towards Franklin becoming the monster he became. When you got nothing and claw yourself to the top and usually through horrible means. You bleed for it and bleed others for it. You give up on your morality and live with constant cognative dissonance it distorts you. Once you taste the power and respect money gives you it is hard to not get addicted to it, reason for it when you have fuck all and people treat you like a second class citizen you grow resentment towards them and then you have it all they come to you because you are now the powerful one, the rich one and the one who can make things happen. When you are in a lifestyle that Franklin was the gangster ones loyalty becomes the most valuable currency because one person can end it all and it's even more so the case when most of your criminal associates are your blood relatives, childhood friends and inlaws. Betrayal from those will sting so deep because they know fully what you and themselves been through to get there and this is how many real life underworld feuds start and in some cultures become generational blood feuds within parts of a family or between two connected families. I honestly loved this show and the dynamic of Franklin and Leon since it is very realistic. I can't fully relate to it since I am not African American however so much resonates with poor people all over the world, I've seen this play out and see it play out today with a new generation of drugs and drug dealers. Quite tragic if I am being completely honest however it is bound to happen over and over again until we can find it in ourselves to not treat those who are less wealthy or fortunate than us lessers but as equals.
I’m so happy you made this video. When the season wrapped, I was waiting on your analogy.
6:36 Jerome slapping Franklin like Rick James is reminiscent of when Jerome told Rob "SLAP YO DADDY"
Solid work man! Been watching you for a while now and glad to see a British essay channel do well 🤝🔥
some people tripping. i get that at times franklin was on demon timing but bro just tried to get back what he made. and even before that bro tried to do things the right way but someone always got in the way of that. he did some bad things but bro didnt deserve all that imo
HE IS A DEMON
He contributed greatly to the destruction of his community and killed innocent people
@@brimward122 yea he really did deserve the ending he got
Exactly he tried doing things right after he tripped balls and look what happened right after😂 and after doing things on demon timing and shi started to get Achieved u can’t be mad at a lot of his reactions🤷🏽♂️
@@CJWOOD444 thank you!
Keep up the good work on ur channel man ur changing lives that includes myn thank you
This is the greatest review, essay, summary, anything ive ever seen dedicated to something I hold very very close to my heart ive ever seen man. I genuinely hope you know that.
Truly a brilliant video. Keep it up 🙏🏾
If he would have went to jail or ended up getting killed off, it would have been predictable. The ending he had was fitting, but the idea of him getting hooked to crack instead of alcohol wouldn't have been too far-fetched.
I thought that was what was gonna happen after the spoilers on Instagram of how he looked I thought teddy or fbi was gonna drug him and make him addicted to crack or heroin to make him crazy and his stories seem fake like he is delusional and nobody takes him serious as he withers away his existence known as a drug addict who used to have it all and makes up government spy stories lol
Idk the statistic on this but do ppl who usually deal crack do their own supply?
@@richardmbanaso2422 it could happen, look at Tony Montana lol.
The crack epidemic was over technically. I mean the worst of it was in the 80s and by the time Franklin is broke it’s the 90s, so it wasn’t as prevalent
@@ahkenaten522 good point, it was the 90's and it was pretty much over by then.
This is such an in-depth and articulated video about the downfall of Franklin. Just subbed from this 1 video alone! Looking forward to watching more.
Great character analysis! Also the editing was very good. Thanks for the upload.
Love this page so much, this series was amazing
I agree, my favourite series of all time
What fucks me up about the end, is the fact he still had a home to go to. He could’ve legit gotten a regular ass job, and just live a simple life in a home he already had left. But clearly his ego took over, and fell. He wanted nothing to do with anything! And that was sad. Watching someone rise from the gutter, just to end up back in it and deeper than anyone else.
He may not have been able to get a job nobody would’ve hired a black man with those ties back then or maybe it was his fear of cia and being out in the open or it could be like he said “IM FREE” free of being told what to do
A regular job?? It’s *FRANKLIN SAINT* nigga! 😂 and by the way it’s not his ego…when you go from having $73M, a girl that’s down with the cause, a baby on the way, & his moms was a rider too at that point, to NOTHING (because he was in debt to everyone) anyone is going to lose their morality. Franklin ever since day 1 wanted to be free, in the end that’s how he felt
I was waiting on this bro. Thank you
One of the best analysis ever done. Great video💪🏿
i was looking forward to your full breakdown this show was perfect
I hate how Louie could not take accountability for herself she kept blaming Franklin for every inconvenience when she was just facing the consequences of HER OWN sneaky actions
Definitely the best break down on Franklin and this series I've seen, and may be the best character analysis I've ever watched. Excellent video.
Wow this editorial is on fire 🔥 nice work! Plus a self development lesson! Love it. New sub 😊
Bro you deserve a hell lot more recognition and applaud for this . Excellent content. Look forward to the growth of this channel .
His ending was deserving and yes we didn’t want it but it was pretty realistic for what he did to his family , his community and his feiends
One of the best psychological documentaries CZcams has to offer thank you 💯💯
Excellent video bro! Love your work.
Props to you my G I love your breakdowns their very well put together and thought put. Your beat background selection 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you bro
you're hitting 100k before the year over and a mil next year. Your channel is Golden man.
🙏🏼love brother
@@JWisdomI always personally felt that Franklin should of had a back up money like the profits from the rent money from his building properties or at least from his drug dealing business like stash of $100k from each corner spots making $500k a month $6 million dollars a year and never told anyone not Veronica, Cissy,or anyone else for that matter
@@JWisdombut personally after everything goes for him and after finding a lousy $12k in peaches house I always felt he should of taken what ever jewelry peaches had and sold what ever expensive jewelry peaches May of had he could of gone back to selling weed again make money that way maybe not millions of dollars but at least making $18k a week $72k a month because there was still a lot of marajauana smokers
Incredible synopsis and breakdown!🔥👏🏾💯
This was the best video essay ive seen on this show main characters !!!🤯🤩🤩Thank You! Subscribed.
Let’s make it clear Louie never gave af about him she’s the reason why shit went south..
This is a proper breakdown of this epic show.
Well done, sir.
Best analysis Chanel on CZcams hands down. I be watching vids on shows I ain’t even seen just because the breakdown is so real and deep.
Much love bro❤️
Great videos been waiting on this one, this is one of the greatest documentaries on CZcams big ups bro🔥🔥🔥
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Bro this is a amazing analysis on Franklin downfall. Coming from a fans perspective of crime dramas.
Man this channel is growing keep going
Beautifully made video my friend
Well done! Epic cinematic intro, use of music and graphics.
When louie left jerome for the lesbian chik, i knew where her loyalty was at .
Ahhh I’ve been waiting on a video essay I’m so excited
This is some High Quality stuff g
He was in too deep tbh . This was a great breakdown but honestly he got betrayed by everybody that could’ve helped him or held him down. He definitely played a big part & he obviously did a lot of dirt. He was honestly doomed from the start when he had to sell for Teddy!
He could have gotten out under Brady I feel just he was too greedy
@@shaquilleknights3197Greedy? Franklin was trying to take what’s his and leave the drug game for good
@@Figgs101my man’s was incredibly greedy …he had so many opportunities to get out and cut his losses but still chose to chase money he was never going to get
@@Figgs101my man’s was incredibly greedy …he had so many opportunities to get out and cut his losses but still chose to chase money he was never going to get
@@Figgs101my man’s was incredibly greedy …he had so many opportunities to get out and cut his losses but still chose to chase money he was never going to get
Thank you so much, J. Wisdom, for creating a video topic, and analysis on The Tragic Downfall of Franklin Saint. Damson Idris has always impressed us as Snowfall's complex protagonist Franklin Saint, but his incredibly raw, and deeply unsettling final turn in Snowfall left us both utterly disappointed, but still singing his praise. Love the video topic as always, my good friend! PS: Do you think that you can do a video topic, and analysis about Frank Martin from The Transporter franchise. If you don't mind?
Bravo! This this was such a good watch
Excellent character analysis dude 💯
great video bro the ending of snowfall has been in my mind for weeks
I feel electrified just watching the begging of the video, already knowing what happened I can just appreciate how amazing this story was told.
Great analysis, editing, and narration
Definitely becomin one of my favorites bro I look forward to ya videos. Brilliant
🙏🏼🙏🏼much love
Cissy was correct but her tyming stunk...She didn't save Franklin cause he ended up on skid row, she killed teddy purely outta revenge cause if it was 4 Franklin she could've killed him in the warehouse away 4rom prying eyes where she could've gotten away clean (And there was acid there to dissolve the body) but killing him in public was the dumbest thing if she was trying to save Franklin...Letting him get his money back would've saved him he would've went legit (All the evidences points to this)
After she learned the true fate of Alton she lost it at that moment and did what she did and has NOTHING to show 4 it, Alton dead, Franklin homeless & an alcoholic, life tyme in prison & Jerome dead again the DUMBEST thing she could eva do...At least by letting Franklin get his money back it would've save him 4rom the terrible fate he now finds himself in...Just sayin...
Why are some of your I’s made into Y’s and F’s made into 4s. Wanna be different so bad
@Robert Johnson Yep cause I am different, I don't 4ollow the pac, its called creative expression and there's nothing wrong with that...
Crissy got what she deserved. Her hypocrisy of preaching to Franklin then participating and benefiting in his illegal gains ultimately lead to her situation. This was HER karma.
@@youtubehatestruthtellers8065 💯
@@malikkimanimaasai3703 Nothing wrong with that homie, you can clearly spell. Express yourself 😌
He should of never told teddy he was quitting
These videos are proper good bro, keep it up !
BRAVO ON THIS DOCUMENTARY👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Your content is dope bro keep bringing the 🔥 excited to watch you grow. Keep dreaming big! 🙏🏼
I appreciate it brother🙏🏼❤️
@@JWisdom personally I felt sorry for Franklin even after he found peaches who stole five million dollars all he found was a lousy $12k but I always felt like that money was a life line for him the only thing he could of done with that amount was go into buying and selling penny stocks companies shares because he was very smart and cleaver I really believe he should of done that but not trying to build up another empire just make day trading his new legal business that he could make $3,600 a day $18k a week $72k a month and he would invest in monthly and quarterly stocks dividends companies but only invest enough money to make $25k a month and $35k quarterly and just spend the rest of his life build up another small business investment without any employees just himself and he just be satisfied with a upper white collar middle class life plus make $60k from stocks dividends companies payment and he just go about his own business
This show was so deep🔥 & the break down of it is EVERYTHING 💪🏾
this is the greatest show i can’t find myself to finish. i’ve been drip feeding myself episodes since the final season’s release. i’ve seen how franklin ends up and in most, if not all ways, deserves the ending he got but it still hurts seeing this downward spiral. amazing show, and great video.
Bravo! Well produced. I truly enjoyed the editing, the delivery, and the vibe of this entire documentary. If you don’t mind me asking, what program(s) did you use in the creation of this content?
Love this channel