Service Your RockShox Recon RL Fork MORE Often. Full Tutorial: Upper & Lower Stanchions Overhaul.
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- čas přidán 7. 12. 2019
- After testing the 130 mm RockShox Recon RL fork, I discovered, that the dust seals allow quite a lot dirt to get into the stanchions. The fork still worked OK, but I don't think it would survive a whole season, without this service.
In this guide I will do the following:
- clean the fork from outside,
- remove the lower legs and clean them and the dust seals,
- disassemble the ait spring and grease all the parts,
- disassemble the damper and grease it,
- clean the upper legs,
- assemble everything.
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SIckBiker, I can't thank you enough for these detailed service videos for the lower end forks. Incredibly helpful!
Over 8 minutes in and we finally get to the actual service
My wife has those same dish towels you're using on the dust seals! Hope you made out better than me because she was PISSED! I showed her the video and everything! 😂😂😂
Perfect tutorial video. I'm going to be doing a lower leg service on my Rockshox Recon RLs tomorrow and this showed everything I need to do in great detail. The only mistake i made was that i bought 5WT and 15WT oil thinking I needed both but it turns out I only need the 5WT because the 15WT is used for an upper leg service, lol. Oh well atleast now i have the 15WT for when I need it. Also for anyone watching this, you can use Slickoleum instead of SRAM butter. It's the same exact thing SRAM just rebranded it SRAM Butter and Slickoleum is ALOT less expensive than SRAM Butter. I paid $10.00 for a 4OZ tube whereas I would have paid $12.00 for a 1oz jar of SRAM butter.
I think you have to move the shaft of the damper several times after pouring the oil in it before closing the cap to get the trapped air out. And also you can check the damping after closing the cap if the damper shaft moves to the end and comes out by it self. If the shaft doesnt stick inside completly you have put too much oil.And if it retracts not completly there is oil needed.Just want to share my expierience hope it helps.
The best tutorial of all CZcams about this fork, thank you very muck sickbiker
a good tip is when you are pounding on the bottom screws, if no oil comes out when you remove the screws then that means you didn't pound hard enough to break the seal. So if no oil comes out then don't even bother trying to pull the upper and lower apart because it won't come apart. Also don't be worried about a ton of oil. My fork only takes 6ml in each lower leg.
Wow great video. Now I know why people pay for a service. But good to know you can do it yourself and save. Thx Danny you're the best.
Really detailed video, clearly showing the service step by step. Clean and professional, great job!
Great vid. Did the service on RockShox Judy and feels like a big improvement after 5 years of no service at all.
The Recon RL is such a great entry level fork, it may be a little heavy but the functionality is awesome, I always do a full maintenance once a year and it's still working as new after three years!
Recon RL is a worst fork I ever used :D
bad damper, bad sealing, oil leak, etc
@@Lezz015 sounds like you're using an entry XC fork to do Enduro or something 😂 I haven't had any issues after three years of continuous usage with regular maintenance, there's also a considerable difference between the TK and the RL damper.
@@Asthbendriel no :)
I'm using bicycle just for commuting, to have some fun or as a fast and cheap transport.
I have some bicycles with different forks such as magura, manitou, fox and rockshox. So rockshox forks are worsts fork I ever used, except very cheap or chinese forks.
For example, manitou much better due great dampers.
I also had a recon silver fork. I have a SID RTL with MC DNA damper. It have some oil leaks near compression knob and it failed because plastic sping broke.
@@Lezz015 the way you're using the fork and the results you're getting don't make sense at all to me, are you a heavy rider or don't maintain the fork at all? I use the Recon RL for natural trail riding, average 40-60Km rides every weekend and short rides along the week. For three years the fork have gone through dust, dirt, moss, roots, mud, clay, crossed rivers, basically almost anything but ice and snow because it doesn't snow over here, and the fork works as day one and in all the three years I haven't had a single leaking issue or sensitivity loss because of the damper. I don't get much air time with this fork at all, but hey it's a 100mm fork, it's not meant for gravity lol.
On the brands side of things, I haven't used or seen a Magura fork around here, but doing a quick research I couldn't find a brand new $250 29er Magura, same goes for Fox and the only fork Manitou offers at that price range is the Markhor, which haven't used but looks like a very good fork, but nothing earth-shaking. You can't expect a $250 fork to work as good as a $600 - $700 fork, but it's hell of value for the money you're paying compared to other brands like Sr Suntour for the same price range.
@@Asthbendriel
I served SID more than riding it. But I think that I'm a heavy rider, I'm over 100kg with backpack. RS SID had this some problems:
1) a broken damper(you can google about this problem).
2) a cracking steerer(this is a common problem).
3) knocking out dust seal due to air leakage from negative air chamber(it happens only in cold weather and in I should change sealing o-ring)
4) I cannot setup spring for my weight, because there is no tokens in positive air chamber
So I'm just tired with this fork. It has only one advantage - weight :)
Many people says that they can find RS spares easily and can't find anything for the manitou. So okay, but RS forks have toooooo much plastic parts. You can see broken snap ring on this video, one latch is broken. And you can damage damper while riding on RS fork because there is no high speed bypass(shimstack or something like this) and every bump can do it. Just lock or add compression and hit you fork quick and you have a chance to damage damper.
In 2018 I bought a brand new manitou marvel on ebay for 90 eur. So i think this is a good price. Also you can find a brand new, new, mint or used fork on the ebay. Also you can try to buy on on crc or bike-discount on sales.
I do not recommend to buy magura fork. It'a far better than RS but not so good as manitou.
Check this video about markhor czcams.com/video/drvxGGtuTu4/video.html
Skip to 8:27 before this is cleaning and taking the fork off the bike.
Nice video! You just helped me this much with rebuilding my fork. Now I'm sure it's ok.
Hello from Bucharest România 🇧🇪! U are a great bike mechanic! U work with pasion😎
Thanks. Great video. Tip I found elsewhere; if you put those retaining rings in hot water; after they are warmed up, are much easier to reinstall.
T H A N K S !!!! Your video and the RS Service Manual helped me complete the job...!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You're supposed to remove the rubber o-rings by puncturing the rubber with the pick, and then replacing the o-rings with brand new ones, not getting underneath it. Otherwise you risk scratching the seal contact points, which can ruin the seal on the air spring. This is why when you ask a bike shop to service a fork, they say there will be a charge for the seal kit, because brand new ones will be necessary.
The recon fork has so much more extra parts to disassemble vs the debonair pike. I thought it would be simpler.
This is awesome, thank you for putting it together.
Thank you for your help!! Just what I needed!
Thank you so much this is really helpful!
these looooong edits are brutal. can you do a 2 part edit, one of the assembly the other of washing. this is a great thorough guild. but by the time it is the next step i lost where we were.
thanks great tutorial
Thank you very much, greetings from Chile 🇨🇱 very good video, really thank you very much.
Very well done, thanks for sharing.
Melhor vídeo de revisão de suspensão do CZcams! Nota 1.000! Muito obrigado!
very helpful!! Thanks for the video:)
Cheers, great job, used your service to extend the travel from 130 to 140 now more supple on low impacts and increased bb height and the lock out still works 👍
Did you need to increase the amount of oil in the damper side? Can the spacer be removed/changed without losing any oil?
@@Scottydont1978Used same amount of oil as service advises and works fine, but in theory you should add a little more. You will lose the existing oil when doing this, if you remove the spacer and don't replace with it with a smaller spacer on 130mm forks you're get 150 travel this will give you problems, I suggest only going to 140 travel, good luck
@@norseman3919 why going to150 will cause problem ? It says in the service manual that the spacers are optional.
@@xyzDJzyx 150mm from 130mm will change the geometry to much for a short travel bike(make climbing hard going) , and apparently the lockout won't work, you could always give it a try and if no good go back to the original setting or 140mm
@@norseman3919 Yes but my goal is to increase descent performance. More travel and slacker angle is good for me and I am lightweight.
nice and clean job!
Very good and thorough!
Awesome video bro...I brought my bike to get foxed...they say a full rebuild was done and I don't think the pit the correct oil or not enough oil.....this video shows me exactly how to do it my self.....I'm nervous but now confident after watching this video....thank you so much bro....wish me luck as I am new to all this repair work
Did it work? ;)
wish you didnt play music and instead gave us play by play instructions :(
Strange how a person thinks lack of explanation is better.
Im so happy to ride rigid forks 😉
haha yeah I feel bad just imagining servicing the whole fork as Sickbiker just did
Andrei Dolgushin tbh I would be down, helps with mechanical experience
Really helpful video my first time doing it it only took 1 hour
Awesome video - thanks so much!
Hello from Bucharest România 🇧🇪 🤘
Awesome video.
Hammer gutes Video. DANKE DAFÜR
Brilliant...thanks dude!!
14-52. No, Danny! ) Why the extension wrench? Where`s the hexagon head?
Very good, tanks!
good to know, that i will bring my bike to the dealer, at least as long as it is new and i still have warranty.... :)
Thanks, appreciate this video.
so good. thanks
Thanks but will let my bike shop do the service! Just ordered recons £240 fitted, as I killed my standard forks on hard trails in Wales ,btw it's a Specialized Pitch .
I've learnt that MTBs are constant maintenance unlike my car, but it's all worth it!
Thanks you. Im gonna try that on my Fox 34 fork
oh dear
El amo!! Q gusto ver como tratas la horquilla! Uooo
thank you so much ❤
Спасибо! Лучшее наглядное пособие по переборке!
И худшее как отмывать байк от грязи - на сухую …
De muy gran ayuda ,muchisimas gracias ,crack
Thanks @SickBiker for the video.
I have one question thought, did you only use 5WT Rockshox oil or also 15WT?
Great video mate, How do you know how much oil you need to put back in the fork, I see you used 5wt, is that what Rockshox recommend or did you have a different preference.
Best video )
Show de bola, super explicativo,o óleo é 5w? Usa 5ml na parte inferior e 150ml na parte superior?
Great video, but if I will take it apart it will be the end for the fork...
My bike purchase today, the shop owner told to me to dust the fork, shock and gears down. No water I asked. Just a rag. I like the dry/lube brushes.
Excelente !!
Totally excellent. Can you recommend a bike shop that can do this in NYC?
5 solid minutes of you cleaning the forks…. 5 minutes plus of you BRUSHING MUD AWAY? Are you for real?
currently watching and this is absolute torture! STOP FUCKING BRUSHING MAN
You can both skip 10s ahead past those parts ya know. Geez people are so ungrateful these days.
be water my friend……….or be punched………
A lot of people really like the cleaning ASMR, just skip ahead like the rest of us.
Can you do a tutorial on how to clean a fork
Hi SickBiker... this video gives me the confidence to try to do a service to my Judy Silver TK Boost 29 ".
I think it will be just like that Recon.
But there is one thing that left me with some doubts: I saw a RockShox table for this suspension with the type and amount of oil.
From what I observed you put the right amount as described in that table for both the upper and lower leg.
But according to that Sram chart, the upper leg oil is 5 WT and the lower leg oil is 15 WT.
My question is whether you put both legs with 5 WT or if you put 5 WT on the upper legs and 15 WT on the lower legs?
Greets from Lisbon, Portugal
What is the quantity of oil you inject at the end before installing the screws at the bottom of each stantion?
Hi there if u don’t mind me asking question the thru axle part where the thread is… is that thread part inbuilt or is it removable cause everyday when I go home I live on the first floor and I gotta remove the wheels cause the stairs are small and I don’t feel safe leaving my bike outside chained but enough of that I wanted to upgrade my suspension and front wheel on my commuter ebike so I don’t want the thread to get destroyed and currently I have a QR setup.. I hope it wasn’t too much of a question to ask.. and thank you
Nice work. Is the lockout always that soft? Used to have 2008 SID with motion control damper and if the oil level wasn't high enough in the damper you would have a soft lockout.
nice tutorial, can you also make a tutorial on servicing ROCK SHOX 30 SILVER TK coil spring fork? I would be very helpful.
pretty much the same.
great bro vedio I hope we are successful together
Nice work
Video fatto benissimo Complimenti. Solo una cosa non fa vedere quanti ml di olio mette nella forcella
Closely inspect the damper while it is out they will develop small cracks near the ends of the slots and ovals if you see this its best to not re install as the damper will soon fail.
I finished a full rebuild of a 2011 Recon Silver TK. Each 150 mL bottle of suspension fluid was between $8-12. I needed three. The picks were about $16. Rebuild kit with seals was about $30. A vial of SRAM grease was about $15. Basically, supplies are at least $50. Moreover, the compression damper side of the fork is a pain to remove the lower legs.
You can enthusiastically decry better forks, but the time spent maintaining lower-tier forks ends up being just as expensive. They’re harder to maintain, basically.
Thats exactly the fork i bought a Week ago to put onto my Bike. The Pre owner wrote something like good Condition, but i can swear it maybe never had a service so far.. The Money i paid for both, fork and service supplies, would be enough for a brand new 2016 Recon in Sale. I guess at least it will teach me something..
@@jasperhusmann6888 - Honestly, I fretted for over a year on whether to attempt rebuilding my stock fork. The CZcams videos were intimidating. The service manuals were confusing. But I decided that I needed to try and learn because I would never trust someone to service my equipment properly. It’s hard to verify if a bike mechanic used new seals or o-rings, for example. Verifying the quality of their work would require opening the fork and looking. At that point, I figured that I would just do it myself.
I serviced my second fork yesterday and realized that it’s pretty easy once you learn the basics. I regret waiting so long to develop the courage to take my forks apart.
@@savoirfaire8979 I will try my best to learn it for similar reasons. I want to do as much as possible by myself. first because i want to get know my bike and what it needs and second because repaircosts at our local bikeshops are damn expensive . also the workshops are at super high demand right now. I guess it will be expensive to start with, because of all the tools and materials you need, but later it will save me money and prevent getting ripped off by some mechanics, that just do unnecessary repairs and demand an unrealistic price at the end. Im currently studying social work and want to work with kids and young adults. so maybe it will help me later and i can repair their bikes with them. Have a good time and bike on. DIY or Die ;)
@@jasperhusmann6888 how much was the service charge ? btw how much is a new recon ?
@@sdqsdq6274 i bought one from eBay for 120 Euros. When i realized, that it needed a Service i wrote the guy to complain a little bit because he told me it was in perfect condition and he paid me 20 back for the service kit. I also needed 2 kinds of oil so in total it was like 140 euros
Hello Danny,
I have been watching your videos for a long time, you have one of the best tech cycling channel on youtube! So keep up the good work.
I also have a question for you, i bought a 4 years old suspension fork (rockshox sektor gold rl, never used) in the last month. What do you think, should i start with full service job on the fork ?
ideally yes, but if it's been stored in a cool dry location, should be fine, and do a service after 50 hours
my man, you have a great way of explaining things, precise and fun, please let me humbly recommend you to use a rag when loosing or tighten metallic parts, specially aluminum, many thanks 4 the video, regards from Chile
Do you have a service video for the sektor RL model?
Do you not have running water a hose brush and soap? Could have washed the whole bike in 5 mins then brushing the dry dirt around the fork
Which side does the foot bolt with the rubber seal go on?? The rebound side??
Very easy to follow. Just curious, do you always clean and reinstall the old wiper seals, dust seals and o-rings? When do you need to replace them with brand new ones?
Touch them and you'll notice. Check for elasticity and suppleness. If they lack these, replace. Usually if you maintain your bike, trat it well and re-grease/oil every few months (every 3-6 months depending on how much you use the bike) the rubber lasts a long time.
well done and nice work👍🏻, i have a couple questions here for you, how much oil did you installed finally by syringe and tube?!! also what pressure did you inflate the left arm?!
Look up the service manual all of the oil weight/ volume info is in it.
Is the rockshox air tube uni directional fit the air shaft?
15:39 why is there so much debris in the air spring housing?
Hi, I have problems with te exact same fork, the problem is that when the fork return it make an ugly thunk sound , but I know that is not the rebound in a very fast click also when I put my bike upside down the thunk noise disappear but only for couple of minutes and the ugly sound return.
Thank you for the Video, how often do you need to do that ? thanks Charlie
Once a year is fine
es gibt ja unterschiedliche recons und ich weiß nicht genau welche ich habe sind bei der recon alle dichtungsringe gleich oder hat jedes recon modell andere
Would this be the same as a rockshox Judy Silver ?
I recommend to change these foam seals
thats right, also use grease instead oil for the foam seals, e.g. SRAM Butter it will remain better on the foam seals
hey man. just a quick q if you could help. i have done my full fork service however. this is Judy Silver TK - i was not able to removed the air spring tube form the upper leg. i removed cap and tried to push the skinny leg in but could not get it out. this is 2021 130mm Judy Silver TK. is there a trick how to remove air or did i just got stuck with air in negative chamber? cheers
Cheers for this video, massive help since I lost oil out of the LHS fork whilst storing the bike on my garage wall. Do you reckon I could use red grease (for use with rubber) instead of the SRAM butter? Thanks again. 👍🏼
you can but depending on the compound of the grease it can absorb dust and create some friction, on the other hand any kind of suspension grease (not just sram butter) can be used.
@@here_is_gabe cheers for the reply 👍🏼
Fork movement may get jerky when using the wrong lube, but you may well have found out by now.
31:47 How many mililiters are injected here into each leg? Is it 6ml of 15WT, as per manual? Thank you!
At the start i found another error! The cleaning with brusch is not good idea! This is totaly wrong!
Спасибо огромное за столь подробное описание.
А сколько он в штаны масла залил?
@@kyrillbelousov3056 по мануалу положено 6 гр.масла 15 w
10:25 - This liquid that comes out - is that water caused by water ingress? Is it possible that I can simply take off the lower stanchion like this, drain the water and then put it back on for quick drainage?
Where did you buy your tshirt? It's really nice :D
muy buen video. me podrías decir cuánto aceite lleva una Recon RL Boost 29,. (sin espaciadores (all-travel)) 150 mm de recorrido. Muchas gracias .
En el manual.de RockShox online sale
Congratulations, it is one of the few videos where you can see a complete service for the RECON fork, I was searching many places and your video was really very useful to me. I just have one question; It is true that ROCK SHOX forks come almost without oil, how true is that?
Да, все говорят что не доливают масло. Лично у меня было залито 110 мл, хотя должно быть 150 мл.
Goeie video waarom doe je een doek er voor als je de lucht er uit haalt gebruik je c02 😂
very good video, but since I did the maintenance, the fork lock no longer works. Do you have any idea what the problem is?
I had same issue - easy fix, check this out
czcams.com/video/1n4_rp2Aj2o/video.html
Geesus. The attention to detail is mind boggling. How much would a service like that cost? More than the fork?
$85 an hr × 3 hours
this guy don't understand nothing of fork. mistake oil. don't send him the fork, it's the end of fork. see others videos
@@Bobcatspiritdude From where did you take that price?? WTF
With 250$ i buy a new fork :))))) or a bike
@@syovol But he does it so great that really makes everybody belive he knows like a PRO JAJAJAJA!!!
How do I know the correct positioning for re-adding the lockout cap and the rebound control? Should it always be in a certain position after a service, or would it be the same position as I took it out?
I think it doesn't matter, you can test it before adding the screw like he does. If the dial doesn't line up where you want it just rotate the plate and add the dial. Open to closed is only a 3/4 turn.
Six minutes and 29 seconds of bike washing? Please, life is too short for that!
Its all part of the process baby, I appreciated it.
yeah the washing was a bit dragged out. You do want to make sure there's atleast no big clumps but since you are going to be cleaning the insides of the legs anyway, might as well just do the total cleaning when they are apart. I just sprayed my fork down with windex and wiped it off before taking the lowers off, since mine was pretty clean to begin with.
yeah, there's no way to skip ahead!
Could have save a ton of time with a waterhose
NO 6 minutes and 29 seconds of bike SCRATCHING! He had a bucket of water from the beginning, WTF?
Thanks for posting this. It’s quite helpful. A question: @31:45 what is the purpose of infilling some fluid? And is the fluid just regular suspension fluid? How much is it?
That's the lower leg oil. IIRC each one needs 6ml of 15wt shock oil
Hi! Thank for the video. I have a question about soaking foam rings - why are you using 5wt oil instead of 15wt? I found that 15wt should be used to soal foam rings in the documentation
For foam rings, use Rockshox Redrum or Fox Float Fluid
Да, всё правильно пишете, надо замачивать в 15 W.
Можно без проблем в хорошем синтетическом, моторном масле и это же масло в штаны вилки налить, по 6 мл.
does any one know if there is much difference between the rock shock recon rl and the rock shock secktor rl ? they seem very similar. great video im going to be doing this very soon
Looks to be the same process according to the service manual. www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/front-suspension/2016-2017-30-recon-sektor-service-manual-english-.pdf
possibly not the same oil levels.