I am literally completely blank on which should i put merc and reinhard above muzan or below muzan, bc muzan was been able to cut hajun finger off, while merc and reinhard was completely demolish by hajun, but that was hajun without tumor that muzan somehow cut his finger off, and it was hajun with tumor who blast off merc and reinhard so idk,😂😂🤦
Understandable. I’m not quite sure myself but since merc has some winning feats against hajun’s avatar and competes alongside ren who got throne amped due to his link with Marie which is why both are throne gods. And ren beat them without that throne before that scene where muzan did that, it suggests that the 2 got a lot stronger with the passing era. I think muzan is still below them but i’m not sure myself
No, the Hajun that Muzan fought was in Phanteon, where the gods doesn't have Taykioku and Laws. And for doing that, Muzan required the help of Ren and Mythra. Also, Muzan is weaker than Nerose, who almost got defeated by Lyle, who Is slightly above Machina in power. So Muzan Is inferior to Reinhard and Ren
It’s cool to see someone rate marie like this. She’s stated to be more powerful than mercurius by mercurius himself (she just lacks experience, durability and endurance.) This was before she even ascended as a hadou god for the 5th heaven and got more powerful.
@@Alastordadeer then you realize that strength in Shinza is determined by levels of existence, you guys probably take Mercurius saying how Marie surpassed his Law to say she is more powerful, but this is a reference to how a God isn't affected by the Throne's Law.
@@Alastordadeer this doesn't change anything i said whatsoever, in the same way Marie isn't part of Mercurius's Law, Mercurius also isn't a part of Marie's Law, this is the whole point showed on Rea Route, it's nonsense put DI Marie above Mercurius when the same Marie was impaled by the LLT from Reinhard lol.
Unranked as of now but if were to place her she'd be just one spot above mithra due to her posibly having more taikyo but would probably be bellow given her lack of combat experience
I’d swap nerose and mithra but the rest is facts btw magsarion>muzan it’s the true form. So yea mag>merc and rein. Marie is stated to Be stronger in god power terms than mercurius by mercurius. This was before she even ascended through the throne as a hadou god. Marie is also the main source of ren’s power, it’s ren’s soul connection to her.
@@AL3PLAZA Naraka is original “god” of verse whose law caused eradication of death. Throne was created to seal/ suppress its law effect by siphoning entity’s power, but only after driving crazy Mithra and her companions. The 2nd Naraka in the throne are souls of Mithra’s companions serving as its sensors.The whole point of throne is finding a way completely eradicate entity.
W edit, but the scaling is off. If you put Muzan above Merc and Rein, then might as well put him as the 2nd strongest unless we are counting Ren Fuji as Tenma Yato. Marie is best girl, but without a certain "lol" scaling, she doesn't scale over Merc or Rein. Ik this is just your opinion, but I shared my thoughts on what I saw.
9.mithra 8.nerose 7.muzan 6.rein 5.merc 4.ren/marie(with some wank fr fr) 3.marie(with some wank fr fr)/ren 2.hirume 1.hajun 0.marie Normal marie is above muzan tho
No way muzan is that high. The scaling should be Pretty obvious. Since you are reauired to beat the previous god it's only reasonable the throne holders would only grow stronger. Nerose beat Muzan and Mercurius pretty much vaporized him Nerose with one of his spells. Mercurius should have like 90 taikyoku at the very least. He was pretty much confirmed in Rea route to be stronger by a margin than ren and heydrich and they really can only deal damage to him thanks to their natures. If the ren revived in the throne isn't Yato level then he would be lower than merc.
Dude Muzan literally the second strongest character in Shinza , even stronger than hajun ( though not the one shown here but his past verison before becoming a hadou god ). Nerose didn't defeat Muzan, it's explicitly stated that Muzan never lost a single fight in his life, he gave up the throne to Nerose. Nerose is literally the weakest hadou god in pantheon.
@@prasant6533 nah second strongest is over the top, he cut off Hajun's finger sure, but can we say this hajun is as strong as the one in KKK, this one shouldn't have the tumor that allowed him to be that strong in the first place. Not to mention hajun wasn't taking him seriously, just responding to his provocation and had to still be saved by Ren. There is also the fact Mercurius's craving was specifically referred to as unprecedented thus far. Meaning his craving was the strongest from the first to third heaven. And was actually still the strongest in Dies Irae, both Ren and Reinhard were referred to as lighter than Mercury., they just had some effectiveness against Mercurius specifically Reinhard. Anyway from what it seems the Dies Irae Hadou Gods are behind Hajun and then comes Muzan
The official list of gods by power from Masada: (1) Hajun, (2) Ren, (3) Mercurius, (4) Marie, (5) Nerose=Reinhard, (6) Muzan, (7) Mithra Masada also confirmed that when it comes to attacking, Muzan is the strongest of all the gods, with the exception of Hajun. Nerose never defeated Muzan in a direct battle, he killed thanks to an impressive feat with the paradox of time, from which Mercurius was later born. And of course he killed the third heaven quite easily, but it all ended up in the fact that Nerose himself was not against it, because his whole motivation was based on the fact that he was perfect, and the creation of Suigin refuted this in the eyes of Nerose himself, he failed, and could not cleanse the world of sin, so He just gave up the throne.
@@memento_lucifug Oh I heard he did one but couldn't find it thanks for that. Anyway it seems my guesses were pretty close in that case. I just had marie after mithra
no wtf 8-mitra 7-nerose 6-muzan 5-marie 4-reinhard 3-merc 2-tenma yato/ren 1-hajun even simone agreed on merc > marie > muzan depends on ren vs merc or reinhard but i see ren more powerful
@@magsarion_muzan debatable in which route bro but ren surpassed rein and merc already and i prolly sure would agree with u but ya simone tho thinks ren slamms both
@@AkashicWriting8 and what? Only Merc tanked Hajun’s attack when Marie, Ren and Reinhard died in alternative ending of dies Irae. Even without souls he was more powerful than Marie
I am literally completely blank on which should i put merc and reinhard above muzan or below muzan, bc muzan was been able to cut hajun finger off, while merc and reinhard was completely demolish by hajun, but that was hajun without tumor that muzan somehow cut his finger off, and it was hajun with tumor who blast off merc and reinhard so idk,😂😂🤦
Understandable. I’m not quite sure myself but since merc has some winning feats against hajun’s avatar and competes alongside ren who got throne amped due to his link with Marie which is why both are throne gods. And ren beat them without that throne before that scene where muzan did that, it suggests that the 2 got a lot stronger with the passing era. I think muzan is still below them but i’m not sure myself
No, the Hajun that Muzan fought was in Phanteon, where the gods doesn't have Taykioku and Laws. And for doing that, Muzan required the help of Ren and Mythra.
Also, Muzan is weaker than Nerose, who almost got defeated by Lyle, who Is slightly above Machina in power. So Muzan Is inferior to Reinhard and Ren
@@AL3PLAZA yea he even admits inferiority to ren
@@AL3PLAZAFrom where you guys read the novel😭
they are above, but Muzan can fight them via Saoshyant Mah
Unnerated Verse
Shinza bansho goated
Gets hoe-d by Goku
Sure lil bro we can debate on it 😹 drop your discord
Lil bro got scared, how can i send you scans in yt comments, get a life son
Goku outscales the entire midsadaverse verse plus no one in the midsadaverse is even 6D lol , literally the whole series is an mistranslation 😹
It’s cool to see someone rate marie like this. She’s stated to be more powerful than mercurius by mercurius himself (she just lacks experience, durability and endurance.) This was before she even ascended as a hadou god for the 5th heaven and got more powerful.
he isn't more powerful than Merc, Masada literally puts her below in terms of strength.
@@daniel2nds strength? Yeah. Power, level of existence etc? No, mercurius said it himself and that was before marie even ascended to the throne
@@Alastordadeer then you realize that strength in Shinza is determined by levels of existence, you guys probably take Mercurius saying how Marie surpassed his Law to say she is more powerful, but this is a reference to how a God isn't affected by the Throne's Law.
@@daniel2nds No? I take mercurius saying that. Stop appealing to authority, the plot is the only thing that matters
@@Alastordadeer this doesn't change anything i said whatsoever, in the same way Marie isn't part of Mercurius's Law, Mercurius also isn't a part of Marie's Law, this is the whole point showed on Rea Route, it's nonsense put DI Marie above Mercurius when the same Marie was impaled by the LLT from Reinhard lol.
"Reinhard" "Muzan"
I think i heard those name before💀
W video
My top:
8.Hirume
7.Marie
6.Mithra
5.Muzan
4.Nerose Satanael
3.Mercurius
2.Reinhard
1.Ren Fuji(Tenma Yato)
0.Hajun
Magsairon is above nerose
And merucurius>rienhard
@@Nerose.1s Yeah,it is outdated
Неа
Хаджун > Магсарион > Меркурий > Рейнхард >= Рен > Мари > Нероз > Митра > Хируме
@@user-jg2jj2ks1p Неа
Хаджун далеко не сильнейший в Шинзе
Зеро(Истинный Нарака)>Магсарион>Вархрам>5 Наблюдателей(Товарищи Митры)>Хаджун
@@user-jg2jj2ks1p english?
song name pls tell bro about this song
Where is Hirume?
Unranked as of now but if were to place her she'd be just one spot above mithra due to her posibly having more taikyo but would probably be bellow given her lack of combat experience
W
Hajun is to hadou gods what hadou gods are to normal humans
Put him at -infinity and leave all those spaces from 0 upto negative infinity blank
My top
1.Hajun immeasurable taikyoku
2.Tenma Yato 100+ taikyoku
3.Ren Fuji pantheon 100 taikyoku
4.Mercurius 90 taikyoku
5.Reinhard-Ren Fuji 90 taikyoku
6.Muzan 75-+ taikyoku
7.Marie 90 taikyoku
8.Ameterasu 90 taikyoku
9.Nerose 80 taikyoku
10.Mithra 70 taikyoku
I’d swap nerose and mithra but the rest is facts btw magsarion>muzan it’s the true form. So yea mag>merc and rein. Marie is stated to
Be stronger in god power terms than mercurius by mercurius. This was before she even ascended through the throne as a hadou god. Marie is also the main source of ren’s power, it’s ren’s soul connection to her.
nah Mithra is the weakest.
Marie isn't stronger than Merc lol, Masada puts her below Mercurius and Reinhard in terms of strength.
In my eyes Mithra is #1 😉
She is still below Naraka
Clown
@@DestinedDeath703No, she's not below Naraka. Naraka Is the embodiment of the Throne, and every God can easily destroy the Throne. So she slams
@@AL3PLAZA Naraka is original “god” of verse whose law caused eradication of death. Throne was created to seal/ suppress its law effect by siphoning entity’s power, but only after driving crazy Mithra and her companions. The 2nd Naraka in the throne are souls of Mithra’s companions serving as its sensors.The whole point of throne is finding a way completely eradicate entity.
@@DestinedDeath703 Thanks, i didn't knew about that cuz i can't found Horizon Battlefront Aditya translated. Sorry for the disinformation i spread 😅
My list :
1. Hajun
2. Muzan
3. Amaterasu
4. Setsuna
5. Ougon
6. Suigin
7. Singha
8. Myoujou
9. Tasogare
Next candidate hadou gods : phanteon protagonis, kouha & 8th heaven or last heaven is the strongest hadou gods!!
Bro got this scaling from yt shorts
Mitra being the weakest is just wrong
🤣
The creator puts her the lowest
It goes like this i think:Hajun>Tenma yato>Ren fuuji>Merc=Reinhard>Magsarion>Marie>Satanael>Mithra
Yato and ren same person so he can take anyone of them
@@Zeroitself yato is busted version so i always pick them separate
Magsorion isn't a God, and he would be above Hajun with at his very best.
@@daniel2ndsif he isn't a god and would be above hajun at his best then wouldn't that mean hajun at his best>magsorion
you forgot habaki, he is also one of the strongest hadou gods and maybe even the 2nd strongest hadou god
Habaki isin't a hadou god...
@@Nerose.1s he is though
@@irinablonina3480 he is not man go check ghe wiki
@@Nerose.1s then tell who he is and also that doesn’t matter if he is a harpy god or not he is still the 2nd strongest character in masadaverse
@@irinablonina3480 with tumor he is but he isint even top 10 in writing
W edit, but the scaling is off.
If you put Muzan above Merc and Rein, then might as well put him as the 2nd strongest unless we are counting Ren Fuji as Tenma Yato. Marie is best girl, but without a certain "lol" scaling, she doesn't scale over Merc or Rein.
Ik this is just your opinion, but I shared my thoughts on what I saw.
Marie solos hajun fr fr
@@Rinne-z fr I don't know what past me was thinking.....
@@Rinne-z what
anime name pls
is the Visual Novel Series Shinza Bansho
1. hajun
2. habaki
3. tenma yato
4. ren fuji
5. mercurius
6. reinhard
7. muzan
8. marie
9. nerose
10. hirume
11. mithra
Habaki İs Not A Hadou God
1 - Hajun
2 - Ren
3- Mercurius
4- Reinhard
5 - Muzan
6 - Nerose
7 - Marie
8 - Mithra
The fact that you have marie blantly above magzarion proves you have no idea what masadaverse is.
Habaki sakagami ?
He Is Not A Hadou God
SANDWICH 🥪
9.mithra
8.nerose
7.muzan
6.rein
5.merc
4.ren/marie(with some wank fr fr)
3.marie(with some wank fr fr)/ren
2.hirume
1.hajun
0.marie
Normal marie is above muzan tho
Why is Hirume so high? O_O
@@Arzenon_ sensories included
Hajun 0. Bro
Mercurius and Reinhard > trash gudou gods 😂😂😂
Habaki?
habaki is not a hadou god
habaki sakagami goes 2nd, tenma yato third and ren fuji 4th
Tenma And Ren Are The Same Person Only Difference İs Power.
And Habaki İs Not A Hadou God
Muzan>ren
tenma yato is ren fuji?
Yes
Where is habaki?
This is hadou gods habaki is gadou
He isnt Hadou,he is godou god
No
Magsarion > Hajun > Ren(Tenma Yato) > Mercurius > Reinhard = Ren > Marie = Hirume > Nerose > Mithra
No way muzan is that high. The scaling should be Pretty obvious. Since you are reauired to beat the previous god it's only reasonable the throne holders would only grow stronger. Nerose beat Muzan and Mercurius pretty much vaporized him Nerose with one of his spells. Mercurius should have like 90 taikyoku at the very least. He was pretty much confirmed in Rea route to be stronger by a margin than ren and heydrich and they really can only deal damage to him thanks to their natures. If the ren revived in the throne isn't Yato level then he would be lower than merc.
Dude Muzan literally the second strongest character in Shinza , even stronger than hajun ( though not the one shown here but his past verison before becoming a hadou god ).
Nerose didn't defeat Muzan, it's explicitly stated that Muzan never lost a single fight in his life, he gave up the throne to Nerose. Nerose is literally the weakest hadou god in pantheon.
@@prasant6533 nah second strongest is over the top, he cut off Hajun's finger sure, but can we say this hajun is as strong as the one in KKK, this one shouldn't have the tumor that allowed him to be that strong in the first place. Not to mention hajun wasn't taking him seriously, just responding to his provocation and had to still be saved by Ren. There is also the fact Mercurius's craving was specifically referred to as unprecedented thus far. Meaning his craving was the strongest from the first to third heaven. And was actually still the strongest in Dies Irae, both Ren and Reinhard were referred to as lighter than Mercury., they just had some effectiveness against Mercurius specifically Reinhard. Anyway from what it seems the Dies Irae Hadou Gods are behind Hajun and then comes Muzan
@Your_real_dad we are talking about hadou gods idc about stronger guys then them
The official list of gods by power from Masada: (1) Hajun, (2) Ren, (3) Mercurius, (4) Marie, (5) Nerose=Reinhard, (6) Muzan, (7) Mithra
Masada also confirmed that when it comes to attacking, Muzan is the strongest of all the gods, with the exception of Hajun. Nerose never defeated Muzan in a direct battle, he killed thanks to an impressive feat with the paradox of time, from which Mercurius was later born. And of course he killed the third heaven quite easily, but it all ended up in the fact that Nerose himself was not against it, because his whole motivation was based on the fact that he was perfect, and the creation of Suigin refuted this in the eyes of Nerose himself, he failed, and could not cleanse the world of sin, so He just gave up the throne.
@@memento_lucifug Oh I heard he did one but couldn't find it thanks for that. Anyway it seems my guesses were pretty close in that case. I just had marie after mithra
Weaver victims
Reinhard Negs Weaver Cope Harder
@@DarkkSorcerer 🤡
@@DripAether 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Cry More
Reinhard Negs Weaver
gkue😡
no wtf
8-mitra
7-nerose
6-muzan
5-marie
4-reinhard
3-merc
2-tenma yato/ren
1-hajun
even simone agreed on merc > marie > muzan
depends on ren vs merc or reinhard
but i see ren more powerful
Bro, Ren = Rein < Merc
@@magsarion_muzan debatable in which route bro
but ren surpassed rein and merc already
and i prolly sure would agree with u but ya simone tho thinks ren slamms both
@@habakisakagami6334 I suppose Ren has no chances against prime Merc
Marie>Merc. Merc said is himself and that was before she ascended to the throne and got amped.
@@AkashicWriting8 and what? Only Merc tanked Hajun’s attack when Marie, Ren and Reinhard died in alternative ending of dies Irae. Even without souls he was more powerful than Marie
W
W