Luxu literally taunts Sora about his fate in kh3 in Olympus. “I don’t admire the guy who leaps into danger if if means others have to jump in to save him, you're all just lining up to lose out” and that's exactly what is happening now.
Another great use of foreshadowing! But the video would've been way too long if I discussed them all, so I just picked the ones I thought were the best. Thanks for watching!
@@badgamerkit2893 yeah it is pretty long, all of the Disney worlds in kh3 have clever themes and foreshadowing, which is why I will always disagree with the fans who think kh3 is a bad story. Honestly for the most part this is the only game where Sora is not shoved aside for other characters which is why it is my favorite of the dark seeker saga
I didn’t really like Xehanort secretly being a sympathetic character was a very good twist. A true person who wanted to protect KH would have probably been more forthcoming about his intentions. When he saw genuine people wanting to protect KH, he should have attempted to bring them onboard his plan. Didn’t earn that twist imo and came out forced. I remember disliking the ending because of that.
That deal with Pinocchio could also extend to the Nobodies in general... as they were said to not have hearts and thus feel no emotions, but Pinocchio proved that one could feel emotions even without a heart, which could tie into the latter reveal that the Nobodies could grow their own new hearts after some time.
Young Xehanort tells us what happens to sora at the end of kh3 with him telling him what happens to someone who messes with time but we didnt realize it thought he was just messing with sora
Yep! KH3 is probably the game with the most foreshadowing in the series, but if I talked about each use, the video would have been at least an hour. Thank you for watching!
@@badgamerkit2893 Is a video on KH3 possible? Foreshadowing in KH3? I would love that video, same way feelings for this one! subscribed👑💖 Hey Y'know, just thinking, what Foreshadowing can we get from Missing Link and IV? Curious is all.🐇
Great video. Few honorable mentions that I should bring up though. 1. Ansem Seeker Of Darkness Guardian being Terra hinted after you fight him in Dream Drop Distance 2. Twilight Town Being in Chain Of Memories and Vexen bringing up the other side of Sora's heart (The original GBA one before we even knew of Roxas being a full character) 3. Hollow Bastion being hinted at in Deep Jungle 4. Strelitza herself being hinted at all the way back in Re Chain Of Memories with that Nobody that Marluxia had in the final fight with him 5. Ventus being hinted at being from the ancient Keyblade war times with him and Vanitas being the two who needed to clash at the Keyblade Graveyard to make the X-Blade
The Guardian being Terra was one that I considered adding to the video, and I thought about mentioning the Deep Jungle slide with the hallucinations Sora had of Kairi. They didn't make the final list, however, because of how small the actual foreshadowing moments were. In my first draft of the script, I felt that I wrote too much about the plot twists and not enough about the foreshadowing that hinted at them, so I rewrote it. Thanks for watching!
Nobody having hearts. In chain of memories it show Axel that actually enjoying helping and fighting Sora. In days Both Axel and Roxas actually show more emotion, for example Xion's death and Every sea sait ice cream scene. Kh 2 has Axel doing somemuch shit get Roxas out lead to his death. The Roxas bossfight would never happened if didn't had heart.
@@badgamerkit2893 man enjoy it, and seeing how things pay off is so dope. Especially the final fight which gives a call back to something said and semi glossed over way early on in the story
the amount of foreshadowing that they have given us makes me wonder... what hints have we seen that tells us whats going to happen in 4 and other games that we havent noticed yet?
There's probably a lot of stuff about Quadratum that we haven't even realized yet. And I bet everyone will feel like we should have known the Master of Master's identity all along once it's revealed. Thank you for watching the video!
@@badgamerkit2893 also gotta take into account the fact that since its taking place in rl japan maybe SE are hiding little easter eggs and some foreshadowing elements there aswell
@@sora_lionheartjw1343 I'm not sure if it's supposed to be irl Japan. At the end of KH3, Sora looks at a tower with the number 104 on it. In real life, the tower says 109. Square Enix made the same change in The World Ends with You so I think that it's that version of Shibuya. And, if that's the case, I can't wait to see Neku, Beat, etc again!
@@badgamerkit2893 thats also true but it is a place referencing a real life area with very similar implementations but it is just a theory of course, but its a bit obvious that kh4 and the world ends with u are most likely to be in an alternate reality possibly
Another good one I think is that Vanitas riding the Keyblades was a subtle hint that Sora had this power too, but who knew it foreshadowed that he would awaken the power of light sleeping within Keyblade wielders of yore with the help of Ephemer and guide them by riding the Keyblades just as Vanitas did. God what a moment, and it was being foreshadowed in front of us all along.
Also in number 5, notice how Aqua holds the charms, hers is separated from Ven and Terra’s charms, this could be a foreshadowing to her winning the mark of mastery exam, as well as being separated from Terra and Ven after trying to keep them safe when she fell to darkness🥺💔
I don't know if it's foreshadowing but still something adjacent. But related to Xigbar being Luxu and a keyblade wielder KH 2 introduce Xigbar and his very challenging bossfight. The subsequent game BBS introduced shotlocks as a gameplay mechanic for our keyblade wielding heroes, but perhaps the first instance of a shotlock used against the players was Xigbar's boss battle in KH2. That is how the moveset feels and its a hint that there is something more to Xigbar and then come to find that
Sorry but you got Xehanort’s goal all wrong. It was never his intention to travel back to when the world started. Time travel doesn’t allow him to travel outside of his lifetime, or to change events. His goal was to use the power of Kingdom Hearts to return the world to a pure blank space and recreate in perfect balance between light and darkness.
He believed he lived during the Age of Fairytales. I'm not sure if you've played Dark Road, so let's just say that there's a reason why he said that he swore he'd live beyond the Keyblade War in Birth by Sleep. He thought that there was a version of himself that lived as far back as that time period.
@@badgamerkit2893 I did watch the cutscenes. He saw those visions of the Union leaders because he was seeing into the heart of his caretaker. The blue robed character who used to be our created character for the X saga games.
@@oreotaku4017 You're absolutely correct about that, don't get me wrong! But there are a lot of things in the game that hint that Xehanort believed that the Union leaders were his friends and that he believed he was the playable character in Union X. He calls them friends from his dreams, not mentioning his caretaker, and the Mirror at Dwarf Woodlands makes him believe that lie even more. Unless if I've interpreted a lot of the scenes wrong, I'm fairly certain Xehanort believed he could travel back in time all the way to the Age of Fairytales.
@@badgamerkit2893 The caretaker explains to Xehanort how those friends from his dreams were affected by him seeing into his heart. When he talks to the magic mirror, to confirm that they were real and if he could find them, which is how he found Ven.
@@oreotaku4017 I watched the scene, didn't recall it and I apologize for that. I guess I should've watched the cutscenes again before making this video. But now I'm wondering why he said he would live beyond the Keyblade War at the end of Birth by Sleep. That line doesn't make any sense now. And here I thought Dark Road explained that. This is the side of Kingdom Hearts' writing that I don't like, but thank you for the clarification.
i don't really agree that most of these are foreshadowing? (the rest of this comment is petty and nitpicky and i promise i don't mean it with any sort of derision or mean spirit) right off the bat i wouldn't say that #6 "uses" foreshadowing so much as "can retroactively have parallels drawn to it", it's too big a stretch to give credit for anyone 'planning' the story so far in advance (specifically in this situation, when we know the first game was written basically in a vaccuum). same with #3, i'll believe that scenes in 3D/ReC and even BBS could have had the luxu reveal in mind, but 2 was made so long before luxu was even conceptualized it's just not worth the credit. i'd believe the references to other keyblade wielders could be spun as foreshadowing for BBS's eventual release, but definitely not luxu. #5 and #4 aren't really subtle clues, either. the wayfinder scene is more like ironic lampshading since it sets up a subverted conclusion, and sora's visions of kairi are (as you said) an ongoing mystery that intentionally unfolds (the same could be said for #2 to a lesser extent). neither are subtle hints that could be missed, they're key events that draw attention to the story. and #1 is literally just a sequence of events. aqua's visions of darkness tried convincing her it was inevitable that she'd fall, but the ending of 0.2 has her resolving to stay strong and defy that fate (same as her secret episode of BBS), so the events of 3 weren't 'foreshadowed' but were tragic (and to a degree, ironic) subversion of that conclusion - and even if it wasn't, the darkness telling aqua she will fall is, like the other points, directly stated and hardly subtle in its suggestion. honestly, there's a lot of foreshadowing in the KH series - CoM is FULL of it - but i don't think these points fall under that term. they're storytelling devices, definitely, but not 'foreshadowing'
Luxu literally taunts Sora about his fate in kh3 in Olympus. “I don’t admire the guy who leaps into danger if if means others have to jump in to save him, you're all just lining up to lose out” and that's exactly what is happening now.
Another great use of foreshadowing! But the video would've been way too long if I discussed them all, so I just picked the ones I thought were the best. Thanks for watching!
@@badgamerkit2893 yeah it is pretty long, all of the Disney worlds in kh3 have clever themes and foreshadowing, which is why I will always disagree with the fans who think kh3 is a bad story. Honestly for the most part this is the only game where Sora is not shoved aside for other characters which is why it is my favorite of the dark seeker saga
@@joshz2491 KH3 is my second favorite game in the series. The Final Mix version of the first game is my #1. KH2FM is 3rd.
@@badgamerkit2893 I love the first game the most immersive world design in the series
I didn’t really like Xehanort secretly being a sympathetic character was a very good twist. A true person who wanted to protect KH would have probably been more forthcoming about his intentions. When he saw genuine people wanting to protect KH, he should have attempted to bring them onboard his plan. Didn’t earn that twist imo and came out forced. I remember disliking the ending because of that.
That deal with Pinocchio could also extend to the Nobodies in general... as they were said to not have hearts and thus feel no emotions, but Pinocchio proved that one could feel emotions even without a heart, which could tie into the latter reveal that the Nobodies could grow their own new hearts after some time.
Young Xehanort tells us what happens to sora at the end of kh3 with him telling him what happens to someone who messes with time but we didnt realize it thought he was just messing with sora
Yep! KH3 is probably the game with the most foreshadowing in the series, but if I talked about each use, the video would have been at least an hour. Thank you for watching!
@@badgamerkit2893 Is a video on KH3 possible? Foreshadowing in KH3? I would love that video, same way feelings for this one! subscribed👑💖
Hey Y'know, just thinking, what Foreshadowing can we get from Missing Link and IV? Curious is all.🐇
@@The14thDusk I have a video planned that specifically focuses on KH3, but it's not about foreshadowing. Thank you for the sub!
Great video. Few honorable mentions that I should bring up though.
1. Ansem Seeker Of Darkness Guardian being Terra hinted after you fight him in Dream Drop Distance
2. Twilight Town Being in Chain Of Memories and Vexen bringing up the other side of Sora's heart (The original GBA one before we even knew of Roxas being a full character)
3. Hollow Bastion being hinted at in Deep Jungle
4. Strelitza herself being hinted at all the way back in Re Chain Of Memories with that Nobody that Marluxia had in the final fight with him
5. Ventus being hinted at being from the ancient Keyblade war times with him and Vanitas being the two who needed to clash at the Keyblade Graveyard to make the X-Blade
The Guardian being Terra was one that I considered adding to the video, and I thought about mentioning the Deep Jungle slide with the hallucinations Sora had of Kairi. They didn't make the final list, however, because of how small the actual foreshadowing moments were. In my first draft of the script, I felt that I wrote too much about the plot twists and not enough about the foreshadowing that hinted at them, so I rewrote it. Thanks for watching!
@@badgamerkit2893Understandable. And no problem! I just subbed to you as well. ;)
Nobody having hearts. In chain of memories it show Axel that actually enjoying helping and fighting Sora. In days Both Axel and Roxas actually show more emotion, for example Xion's death and Every sea sait ice cream scene. Kh 2 has Axel doing somemuch shit get Roxas out lead to his death. The Roxas bossfight would never happened if didn't had heart.
This is why I love kh and naruto and going back and watching and re playing and picking up all the seeds that were planted
I'm currently reading Naruto for the first time. If I ever make videos about manga and anime, that may be one of the stories I cover.
@@badgamerkit2893 man enjoy it, and seeing how things pay off is so dope. Especially the final fight which gives a call back to something said and semi glossed over way early on in the story
@@DeliBoyzz Cool! I just got past the Pain stuff. I'm looking forward to seeing how the last few arcs play out.
the amount of foreshadowing that they have given us makes me wonder... what hints have we seen that tells us whats going to happen in 4 and other games that we havent noticed yet?
There's probably a lot of stuff about Quadratum that we haven't even realized yet. And I bet everyone will feel like we should have known the Master of Master's identity all along once it's revealed. Thank you for watching the video!
@@badgamerkit2893 also gotta take into account the fact that since its taking place in rl japan maybe SE are hiding little easter eggs and some foreshadowing elements there aswell
@@sora_lionheartjw1343 I'm not sure if it's supposed to be irl Japan. At the end of KH3, Sora looks at a tower with the number 104 on it. In real life, the tower says 109. Square Enix made the same change in The World Ends with You so I think that it's that version of Shibuya. And, if that's the case, I can't wait to see Neku, Beat, etc again!
@@badgamerkit2893 thats also true but it is a place referencing a real life area with very similar implementations but it is just a theory of course, but its a bit obvious that kh4 and the world ends with u are most likely to be in an alternate reality possibly
Wasn't sora technically in a lot of irl locations? On the top of my head i can think of London, China, Paris and the Caribbean.
In My Experience. The Disney Company wasn't good at Foreshadowing, where I am a Master at it. But Color Me Impressed with this essay!
Thanks, MoM!
"May Your Heart Be Your Guiding Key."
I really loved the moment in DDD when Riku reaches out to the guardian after defeating Ansem hinting toward the guardian being Terra.
That was going to be one of the foreshadowing moments I discussed. It was in the original script but I decided to cut it out. Thanks for watching!
Pinocchio thing might also be foreshadowing the fact that Riku himself becomes a puppet to Ansem IN KH1 by the end of the game
I never thought of it that way! I think I like that one even more now!
The xehanort one is a Translation error. He aculy referenced a Blanck Slate like a canvas to creat a workl wher neather Power exist. Like Quadratum.
I thought xigbar was talking about terra,aqua,& ventus when crap talking about sora being a dud
Another good one I think is that Vanitas riding the Keyblades was a subtle hint that Sora had this power too, but who knew it foreshadowed that he would awaken the power of light sleeping within Keyblade wielders of yore with the help of Ephemer and guide them by riding the Keyblades just as Vanitas did. God what a moment, and it was being foreshadowed in front of us all along.
In ddd heavily foreshadowed xigbar being luxu. When xigbar was shocked by Sora's resolve
Also in number 5, notice how Aqua holds the charms, hers is separated from Ven and Terra’s charms, this could be a foreshadowing to her winning the mark of mastery exam, as well as being separated from Terra and Ven after trying to keep them safe when she fell to darkness🥺💔
I don't know if it's foreshadowing but still something adjacent. But related to Xigbar being Luxu and a keyblade wielder
KH 2 introduce Xigbar and his very challenging bossfight. The subsequent game BBS introduced shotlocks as a gameplay mechanic for our keyblade wielding heroes, but perhaps the first instance of a shotlock used against the players was Xigbar's boss battle in KH2. That is how the moveset feels and its a hint that there is something more to Xigbar and then come to find that
I've never thought of that before but that's really cool!
The only one I don't agree with is the Xigbar one when he makes fun of sora. He was referring to Aqua, Terra and ventus there. Not the foretellers.
I always thought it was dumb that mickey ditches and ignores Aqua being there until it becomes convinient in kh3
Mickey's a jerk lol.
Never even knew abt this game's existence and even tho I'll never play it. Was still entertaining to watch it either way, W Bad Gamer Kit.
Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying my videos outside of The Last of Us!
@@badgamerkit2893 indeed.
I really liked this video, thanks Kit!
Thank YOU for watching!
You def earned my sub.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Sorry but you got Xehanort’s goal all wrong.
It was never his intention to travel back to when the world started. Time travel doesn’t allow him to travel outside of his lifetime, or to change events.
His goal was to use the power of Kingdom Hearts to return the world to a pure blank space and recreate in perfect balance between light and darkness.
He believed he lived during the Age of Fairytales. I'm not sure if you've played Dark Road, so let's just say that there's a reason why he said that he swore he'd live beyond the Keyblade War in Birth by Sleep. He thought that there was a version of himself that lived as far back as that time period.
@@badgamerkit2893 I did watch the cutscenes. He saw those visions of the Union leaders because he was seeing into the heart of his caretaker. The blue robed character who used to be our created character for the X saga games.
@@oreotaku4017 You're absolutely correct about that, don't get me wrong! But there are a lot of things in the game that hint that Xehanort believed that the Union leaders were his friends and that he believed he was the playable character in Union X. He calls them friends from his dreams, not mentioning his caretaker, and the Mirror at Dwarf Woodlands makes him believe that lie even more. Unless if I've interpreted a lot of the scenes wrong, I'm fairly certain Xehanort believed he could travel back in time all the way to the Age of Fairytales.
@@badgamerkit2893 The caretaker explains to Xehanort how those friends from his dreams were affected by him seeing into his heart. When he talks to the magic mirror, to confirm that they were real and if he could find them, which is how he found Ven.
@@oreotaku4017 I watched the scene, didn't recall it and I apologize for that. I guess I should've watched the cutscenes again before making this video. But now I'm wondering why he said he would live beyond the Keyblade War at the end of Birth by Sleep. That line doesn't make any sense now. And here I thought Dark Road explained that. This is the side of Kingdom Hearts' writing that I don't like, but thank you for the clarification.
Make a part 2!
Underrated video!
great video but yesus that mic i feel you have potential to become a good review channel
i don't really agree that most of these are foreshadowing?
(the rest of this comment is petty and nitpicky and i promise i don't mean it with any sort of derision or mean spirit)
right off the bat i wouldn't say that #6 "uses" foreshadowing so much as "can retroactively have parallels drawn to it", it's too big a stretch to give credit for anyone 'planning' the story so far in advance (specifically in this situation, when we know the first game was written basically in a vaccuum). same with #3, i'll believe that scenes in 3D/ReC and even BBS could have had the luxu reveal in mind, but 2 was made so long before luxu was even conceptualized it's just not worth the credit. i'd believe the references to other keyblade wielders could be spun as foreshadowing for BBS's eventual release, but definitely not luxu.
#5 and #4 aren't really subtle clues, either. the wayfinder scene is more like ironic lampshading since it sets up a subverted conclusion, and sora's visions of kairi are (as you said) an ongoing mystery that intentionally unfolds (the same could be said for #2 to a lesser extent). neither are subtle hints that could be missed, they're key events that draw attention to the story.
and #1 is literally just a sequence of events. aqua's visions of darkness tried convincing her it was inevitable that she'd fall, but the ending of 0.2 has her resolving to stay strong and defy that fate (same as her secret episode of BBS), so the events of 3 weren't 'foreshadowed' but were tragic (and to a degree, ironic) subversion of that conclusion - and even if it wasn't, the darkness telling aqua she will fall is, like the other points, directly stated and hardly subtle in its suggestion.
honestly, there's a lot of foreshadowing in the KH series - CoM is FULL of it - but i don't think these points fall under that term. they're storytelling devices, definitely, but not 'foreshadowing'
Sorry you didn't agree with my choices. What are your favorite uses of foreshadowing?