I find it interesting that he feels that most people are still into this kind of music for nostalgic reasons. It makes me feel like he doesn't grasp how impactful the music is.
Orchid's been one of my favorite bands since highschool so this was really cool! As someone who's just entering their mid 20's and grew up in the NYC area, I feel like you're kinda both right about the whole scene and shows stuff. Cool underground DIY shows exist, it just hasn't been as frequent. In my late teens there were a few spots but I don't think nearly as much of what I heard of in stories of the early 00s. I think cost of living plays a big factor too, as prior to COVID there really wasn't that much here outside of bars and rich NYU students doing things in big apartments, but like in Baltimore where it's way cheaper to live up until the ghost ship fire there was a pretty big scene of punk houses doing shows (and occasionally it still happens.) I also know a lot of younger punks moved to Philly for whatever reason. Ever since COVID I feel like things have taken some what of a hit, but also sometimes people have been bolder. I've been to an outdoor hardcore show next to a junkyard by a bridge and a trap concert in a warehouse. I know some "screamo" shows coming up too in Trans-Pecos. Idk Its mixed but I'm still kinda hopeful. Rant over lol
I wonder if Jayson's still remotely interested in critical theory. A huge deal about getting into Orchid (and honestly a lot of the more political bands of the age) was finding out punks could actually be interested in discussions like these. Was a directionless fuckup when I was younger, and now I'm a directionless fuckup in my thirties, except in grad school-- thanks in part to this guy's music. Thought that quick aside (and subequent shrug) about being in his twenties and envisioning Panthers as a revolutionary rock and roll act. I'm sure those underlying political aspirations were tempered somewhat, but I wonder if he goes into greater detail in some of his other interviews. Also, Hal, what bands were in you in back then?
It definitely cemented them as one of my favorite bands of all time too. I feel like that shit's becoming more relevant considering we live in stranger, tenser times and young people are getting more political.
I find it interesting that he feels that most people are still into this kind of music for nostalgic reasons. It makes me feel like he doesn't grasp how impactful the music is.
(23:30) 3 years later they playin shows!
Just got back from the Boston show and it's crazy how great they sounded. Beautiful to see so many younger kids singing along to every word.
I’m glad that they are reunited!
Very cool! I've been exceptionally curious about the personalities behind Orchid. I only really got into them like 8 months ago, mindblowing.
Orchid's been one of my favorite bands since highschool so this was really cool!
As someone who's just entering their mid 20's and grew up in the NYC area, I feel like you're kinda both right about the whole scene and shows stuff. Cool underground DIY shows exist, it just hasn't been as frequent. In my late teens there were a few spots but I don't think nearly as much of what I heard of in stories of the early 00s.
I think cost of living plays a big factor too, as prior to COVID there really wasn't that much here outside of bars and rich NYU students doing things in big apartments, but like in Baltimore where it's way cheaper to live up until the ghost ship fire there was a pretty big scene of punk houses doing shows (and occasionally it still happens.) I also know a lot of younger punks moved to Philly for whatever reason.
Ever since COVID I feel like things have taken some what of a hit, but also sometimes people have been bolder. I've been to an outdoor hardcore show next to a junkyard by a bridge and a trap concert in a warehouse. I know some "screamo" shows coming up too in Trans-Pecos. Idk Its mixed but I'm still kinda hopeful. Rant over lol
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awesome interview!
I wonder if Jayson's still remotely interested in critical theory. A huge deal about getting into Orchid (and honestly a lot of the more political bands of the age) was finding out punks could actually be interested in discussions like these. Was a directionless fuckup when I was younger, and now I'm a directionless fuckup in my thirties, except in grad school-- thanks in part to this guy's music.
Thought that quick aside (and subequent shrug) about being in his twenties and envisioning Panthers as a revolutionary rock and roll act. I'm sure those underlying political aspirations were tempered somewhat, but I wonder if he goes into greater detail in some of his other interviews.
Also, Hal, what bands were in you in back then?
I was in a band Called High School Sweethearts also a short lived band called Last House On The Left. The LHOTL demo is on my channel.
@@hhallahan1 Thanks! I'ma check yr stuff out!
It definitely cemented them as one of my favorite bands of all time too. I feel like that shit's becoming more relevant considering we live in stranger, tenser times and young people are getting more political.
i always felt orchid -> panthers switch sort of paralleled refused -> the international noise conspiracy in terms of sound as well as lyrical content