Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy is one of the best trilogies ever. Spider-Man 3, not unlike Halloween Ends, is misunderstood for the most part. It's a great ending and a good film. Tobey will always be THE Spiderman.
Spider-Man is what really made Hollywood and moviegoers realize that superhero films had a future. Blade got his foot in the door, the first X-Men movie opened it, and Spidey knocked it down.
The music score in the first three is just so epic. It kicks up in all the rite moments it’s on par with Star Wars and Harry Potter. Just makes all the big moments just feel even bigger and better.
It might be the worst movie in the trilogy but the musical sting when Peter sees himself in the black suit for the first time is possibly the best score in the 3 movies
While I did like a lot of things in the Marc Webb and Jon Watts movie, I still think Sam Raimi had the best handle of Spider-Man, even with Spider-Man 3 and the emo/bully Maguire
Spiderman 2 is one of the best superhero movies imo, spideman in sam reimi movies never win because he is stronger but either talk the villains out like with doc oc or outsmart like green goblin
It was cringy stupid and bad from start to finish but that Evil Peter dance down the street scene is the most legendary, iconic moment in a Marvel movie ever
After just watching The Flash movie on my 4K TV, I've come to appreciate the Raimi trilogy even more. 20 years earlier these movies were way ahead of their time and the fact that the writer and director cared so much shows to this day.
The organic web was pulled from Miguel O'Hara in Spiderman 2099. It was an amalgamation of all the spidermen from the comics. The armored face of green goblin was also reimaged for the first cinematic appearance of Norman's alter ego.
No, he didn't have the webshooters because he said Peter building webshooters made him unrelateable. That means he has no grasp of what makes him a relatable character
@@King-mg7vy Don't talk about what you know, you six-year-old newbie. The organic web-shooting was taken by David Koepp from the James Cameron script for a Spidey film. Sam Raimi was actually going to use mechanical web-shooters, there are footages of Tobey using self-made web-shooters. What happened was that Sam had a change of thought and scrapped the mechanical web-shooters. He said that his Peter was always short of money, and the same Peter being able to make mechanical web-shooters while no other company could make anything like this would not be believable to some of his audience (not all). That was his line of reasoning. But of course, this is inaccurate with respect to any Peter Parker Spidey comic.
There have been different actors playing the various roles in all the Spiderman films but Willem Dafoe IS the Green Goblin. He is the embodiment of the character I both hated and feared as a kid reading the comics.
Man watching the first spiderman as a kid Williams acting scared the shit of me. Just the way he could change his personality made it seem like he was really haunted by this
Agreed. The Responsibility speech is still the best and most powerful. I remember getting chills hearing uncle Ben saying that live. I'd read it so many times in the comic books...it brought tears to my eyes. They've never been able to capture that again. Tom's Spiderman's storyline did a great job addressing the same concept without trying to compete. It was smartly written and respectfully done across-the-board.
yeah, its honestly not a bad movie, we could have gotten a whole lot worse, but it's still a fitting conclusion even if it is a little messy along the way
The reason why the original trilogy was memorable, was because of the producer LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her husband (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the movies had depth AVI ARAD on the other hand, just wanted to use the movies to sell toys Unfortunately, she died in 2011, during the production of TASM1 Without her, there was no one to stop Arad from destroying the franchise Spider-Man was nothing without her
I really liked Spider-Man 3. The way somebody begins to believe their own bullshite, get caught up in themselves. I like Venom in this movie far more than Tom Hardy's version.
I'm more a batman guy since he's my favorite superhero. I have more of a connection to the dark knight trilogy than I do with the sam raimi spider man trilogy.
Seeing this video made me think back and be less salty towards Spider-Man 3. At the end of the day it's still a part of my childhood, just like the other 2 movies. 🕷
I was always curious as to why Green Goblin captured Spider-Man but never decided to unmask him when he had the chance. The official novelization explains that it was a matter of honor -- to simply unmask him in Spider-Man's weak state would have been too easy. It would also defeat the purpose of him wanting Spider-Man to independently decide to join him. "I COULD SQUASH YOU LIKE A BUG RIGHT NOW. But I'm offering you a choice." I used to think this was a plot hole, but I really don't think it is. I think Goblin genuinely felt like it would be wrong, in that moment, to unmask him. It would be too easy.
Venom was a studio mandate, Sony and Avi Arad were/are out of touch idiots, and Sam Raimi wasn't happy making Spiderman 3. Many people are able to enjoy Spiderman 3, without having their opinion spoon fed to them by internet opinion.
Raimi didn't care for Venom. He was a classic Spider-Man fan. Lee-Ditko and Lee-Romita. He was into the villains from that era. Venom was alien to him, pardon the pun. He would never have put his heart truly into a Venom story.
I think they're good movies except the third one but they're a little overrated and I'm not a huge spider man fan or the character. My childhood of the trilogy was the second and third films since I was too young when the first spider man came out in 2002 and he's not favorite superhero. I didn't watch these movies a whole lot during my childhood and they were other movies that loved way more than the tobey magurie spider man films for me personally.
8:29 I love thewall crawling scene. And the jumping scene it looked wierd even in 2002, when he ran it seems like Woody from Toy Story. And sure it doesnt hold up. I still love this movie
Speaking of conveniences in 3, does anyone else find it convenient that Gwen just happens to show up at the exact same restaurant that Peter and MJ are at? Like out of all the restaurants in NYC she just so happens to be where those two are at
If Burton had gotten to make another Batman movie then no but Yes I agree. It started all this madness we have now. Plus the new spiderman games that were coming out were great games helped a lot also.
I feel like Tim Burton's Batman was his favorite character like Raimi was for Spiderman it was the studio interference that messed up the best superhero movies we had before we ever did the cinematic series that's gotten played out now.
Spiderman 3 was ment to have a different more horrific ending showing that when the Symbiote pulled away all that was left of Eddie was his skeleton (Spiderman only survived due to his healing factor) and that Venom basically ate Eddie's skin and muscles and was shapeshifting to look like Eddie basically reanimating his corpse
Now that i think about it. Otto didn't kill anyone in this movie, like he didn't want to, everyone was just literally in his way of his dreams. His wife died, but that was her fault, she stood there instead of fucking moved.
I would have preferred Spider-Man 3 to focus on Sandman and Harry without necessarily leading to Harry's demise. One aspect I'd find intriguing is exploring Venom's ability to reveal the memories and knowledge the symbiote acquired about Peter, which could lead to Eddie's transformation into Venom.
After 15 years of listening to the criticisms of Spider-Man 3, I still can't understand them. "Bully Maguire is so cringey" ... yeah, did you not notice the characters in the movie cringing at him dancing down the street? It's supposed to be cringey. That's why it's funny. The attempt to criticize that aspect actually reinforces how that element of the movie works. People will criticize the film for having too many villains and they don't get enough development, meanwhile the same people will praise No Way Home, which has even more villains, which have even less to do with the story and have far less development. Meanwhile that film is shot like garbage, and has no memorable moments, yet Spider-Man 3 is tremendously well shot with tons of memorable moments. The criticisms against Spider-Man 3 just don't hold up to scrutiny and you're a hypocrite if you gave No Way Home a positive review. At least Sam Raimi is a good director. A bad Sam Raimi film is still better than Jon Watts' best film, because Jon Watts is a bad director, and still better than any Spider-Man film since.
I prefer Sam Raimi's entire trilogy over anything Marvel/Disney have done with Spiderman. That 3rd Tom Holland one, I can't remember the name, is an unmitigated mess and represents every thing I hate with modern film making. Every thing has to be connected for no reason, and no reasons will be given beyond "multiverse". It takes a skilled writer to create complex storytelling that a multiverse requires, and Disney doesn't do it. I know people are hardwired these days to clap for nostalgia bait, but I prefer storytelling over spectacle.
@@Psilocybin77 I agree with everything you just said. This may be where you stop agreeing with me because for many reasons, people just want to shit on this movie, but to add to what you said, a great example of the multiverse plot device used in an intelligent way is The Flash. It actually made sense in that movie as opposed to the 3rd Tom Holland movie where it was just non-sense. It also made sense because DC is rebooting their characters and that movie was resetting the table for new versions of the characters to appear in new films. For example, Ben Affleck wanted out of being Batman, so they literally swapped him out for Micheal Keaton with the intention of having him continue as Batman in the future. The Flash is one of the only recent comic book movies that's come close in quality to Raimi's trilogy of Spider-Man films and it was completely shit on by the hive mind the way they do with Raimi's trilogy now and praise garbage like Tom Holland's Spider-Man movies. Modern audiences are completely fucking lost to the craft of filmmaking and they have zero taste.
The one thing that the MCU Spider-Man fixed is explaining how Peter got a nice costume. Peter's poor. So how does he come up with something so fancy. Also, two should have ended with this thing from outer space appearing in Central Park. Then we see several bright dressed characters heading for it. And Spider-Man follows them. Then, three starts with Peter reappearing from the structure in his black suit. Since they didn't know they were going to do Venom in three when they did two, they still could have started three this way. And the symbiont should have became whatever clothes Peter wanted it to be. Not just his suit.
Ill always remember going to Newark,(yes the NJ one), to score drugs with my buddy before a trip to NYC and we turned out to have no problems due to the dealer remembering my buddy looking like "Spiderman" , aka Toby McGuire 🤣🤣🤣
I still remember being like 6 or 7 and my dad taking me and my brothers to watch the 1st Spiderman after that Spiderman became my favorite superhero ❤ when I was a kid kinda still is haha ahhh weird par too was that my dad never took us to the movies lulz
Spielberg also could've directed Spider-Man but he turned it down. It's crazy how DiCaprio's good friend would be become Spider-Man. I'm so glad I was able to see the first one in theaters and became a part history. Unfortunately didn't see 2 and 3.
Raimi for me made the perfect Spider-Man movies because it has a level of corny that is just my fav thing in the world. I love the cheesy one liners. I love goblins suit. I love tobey maguires awkward ass performance, I love the god damn Spider-Man suit. I know people praise andrews for having the best but for me I don’t like the material of TASM2s suit. For me this is everything I love about Spider-Man and everything I love about films :) ALSO THE SCORE ❤❤❤❤ I think personally they should give Garfield and Tobey one more movie. Garfield can finally complete his trilogy and Tobey could make a movie guiding a young miles morales
Can't stand the big eyes on the Garfield suit and he's too gangly and tall looking. As a John Romita fan (the definitive Spider-Man artist), it's Raimi for me.
Imagine if there was a live action film version of Ultimate Spiderman taking on Ultimate Green Goblin 😳. I think the idea of morphing back and forth from Goblin monster/beast and creating fire balls is very clever and gangster 😀
I personally love Spider-Man 3, marvel and Sony would be insane to not get Tobey back in secret wars, especially seeing as he was excited to come back for no way home
so, Spider-Man 3 was the first time I was disappointed by a modern Marvel movie... from Blade, to X-men, to the first 2 Raimi movies, each one got better. But, like the X-Men: Last Stand, there was a confluence of ideas that sort of sunk the third one. You mentioned that the studio's forced some things on Sam Raimi, but I remember reading at the time that both Toby & Sam didn't want to do more movies after the third one. I think that there were originally 2 more planned after the third one, which were going to feature either sand man and/or the new goblin. So, my opinion is that this third one rolled any potential sequels into one movie so that they could move on and do other things. In the end, i think its more re-watchable than some of the other sequel failures, mostly because of the quality of both the filmmaking and the acting.
The Raimi series wasn’t a whole lot less cartoony and silly than the Schumacher Batman films, but unlike those films, the tone actually fit. Batman should be slightly darker than the other superhero movies. Spider-Man and Superman should be on the lighter end. If you have your tone actually fit the character, you’ll be fine. It’s why Deadpool worked. Nobody was aiming for a box office friendly PG-13. They just told a story that fit the character and let everything else fall into place. People want to see these characters be themselves.
I didn’t especially dislike Topher Grace as Eddie. He was as so many others have said, under developed. Perhaps he should’ve been introduced in the latter half of Spider-Man 2 to better serve his entry in the third film. Visually as Venom, it was a decent look, but the development and portrayal were just so wrong.
Spider-Man 3 is unironically my favorite the only thing I didn't like about it was the characterization of Eddie Brock. I don't care how close he is to the comics, I didn't read them, but he's kinda douchy and he'd have been much more tragic if he was more of a victim, which would have made his motivation stronger. Instead, they try to establish him as kind of a prick early on and it just doesn't work Everything else about this movie, I absolutely adore. And this includes the dance scene, which makes me miserable in all the right ways. Our sweetheart Peter who we followed for two movies now has become such a chode that he's completely unrecognisable and it broke my heart, when I watched it It's a masterpiece in my opinion and beats out the first two for me, just cause hero corruption is such a great plot device
Spider-man 2002 came out in May of that year. And lol you really didn't mention the entire fight and back and forth with Peter and Harry just the one line. But then act like he exits the film....
I do believe the original Spider-Man trilogy set the bar for not only marvel movies to follow in the next decade but superhero movies in general because I got tired of seeing Batman and Superman on the big screen. I wanted to see other superheroes get some love. I think Spider-Man ushered in marvel superheroes as well I think the whole trilogy is good on its own. Obviously the first two movies are some of the best. Superhero movies of the genre. The third one was just an overloaded convoluted mess which closed out the original trilogy in a very disappointing way but all in all fantastic series.
The first 2 Spiderman movies are the best made in the Superhero genre. Although I still see Spiderman 2 being the best of the bunch, as Alfred Molina Doc Ock is much better both in his costume design and look. While Spiderman 3 is the weakest of the Tobey Maguire trilogy, although it has a few good sequences but otherwise forgettable.
One thing I would have pointed out, at the end of Spider-Man 2, the reflection of the World Trade Center Towers can be seen as MJ looks out the window. An obvious nod to the scrapped promotion for the first movie where a chopper was caught in a spider net between them. Sony felt it was too soon after 9/11 to do that. Parts of Spider-Man 3 work for me, some don't. It is the weaker ion the trilogy. Topher Grace was WAY miscast in this role.
And, No Way Home made me love the performances of Maguire, Dafoe, and Molina even more. Tobey NEEDS to be in Secret Wars. Garfield too but with a lower case needs.
The first Spiderman movie is unmatched. Its not just a great comic book movie, its a great movie in general. The rest of the Marvel movies feel fake, and unrealistic. They don't seem like they could ever happen in the real world.
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NWH But you know who else deserves a big thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy had depth Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
Although the movies are great, I can’t say that I’m a fan of the casting choice for Peter. Tobey Maguire was just too awkward looking for me; I hated the way he runs and I hated that stupid grimace he makes whenever he’s overexerting himself. I think Jake Gyllenhaal would’ve a far better Peter Parker. Also, a different actor makes sense considering how most of the crew also disliked Tobey Maguire. I also wish they’d given MJ more to do other than just to bang every major male character or scream repeatedly throughout all three films.
Man I loved these movies and still do. I just never like MJ, her writing and Kirsten Dusnt is ehh hit or miss. I mean i don't like her acting thay much tbh. I preferred Gwen from SpiderMan 3
The only real issue i have is spidey dropping off go lins \ normans corpse. What a kind and considerate "murderer" right? Dumb Harry...but NO SECURITY for sandman in 3? He knocked out a k9 unit and jumped a 10 ft fence dude. There was def security set up, but also, its avi arads fault that things didnt get enough time and or explanation, he forced venom into the film
Never liked the cast. Maguire was too wimpy and never witty enough and Dunst was just not a smokeshow as MJ is supposed to be. Andrew Garfield much better Spidey.
The Original Spider-Man Trilogy is Perfection.
Spiderman 3 is not perfection.
Truly is… Especially Spiderman 2
@@archmage7813it’s also not a horrible movie like people made it out to be lmao. Which more & more people are starting to realize
@@-Anonymous-. I'm sorry that you're laughing as the only joke seems to be on you as no it remains not a very good movie.
@@archmage7813 once again, Spider-Man 3 is not perfection, but it’s also not a horrible movie.
Go be emotional somewhere else
Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy is one of the best trilogies ever. Spider-Man 3, not unlike Halloween Ends, is misunderstood for the most part. It's a great ending and a good film. Tobey will always be THE Spiderman.
Spider-Man is what really made Hollywood and moviegoers realize that superhero films had a future. Blade got his foot in the door, the first X-Men movie opened it, and Spidey knocked it down.
And then it all went down hill from there 😆
i still watch these alot. more than any other marvel film. they are timeless and well done.
Arent they Sony films though?
@@PahricidaThey’ve always been both. But now they’re all in the MCU
The music score in the first three is just so epic. It kicks up in all the rite moments it’s on par with Star Wars and Harry Potter. Just makes all the big moments just feel even bigger and better.
It might be the worst movie in the trilogy but the musical sting when Peter sees himself in the black suit for the first time is possibly the best score in the 3 movies
While I did like a lot of things in the Marc Webb and Jon Watts movie, I still think Sam Raimi had the best handle of Spider-Man, even with Spider-Man 3 and the emo/bully Maguire
#AviAradOut
Spider-Man 3 wasn’t really his. Spider-Man 1 is still the best film out of all the Spidey films.
Spiderman 2 is one of the best superhero movies imo, spideman in sam reimi movies never win because he is stronger but either talk the villains out like with doc oc or outsmart like green goblin
I’ll forever defend Spider-Man 3
#AviAradOut
I love all three. I thought Bully McGuire was hilarious and cathartic for Peter
It was cringy stupid and bad from start to finish but that Evil Peter dance down the street scene is the most legendary, iconic moment in a Marvel movie ever
Spiderman 2 is the best comic superhero movie and Blade a close second.
Don't forget the game so iconic!
After just watching The Flash movie on my 4K TV, I've come to appreciate the Raimi trilogy even more. 20 years earlier these movies were way ahead of their time and the fact that the writer and director cared so much shows to this day.
The legacy of this trilogy is the absolute gold memes that its given us lol
The organic web was pulled from Miguel O'Hara in Spiderman 2099. It was an amalgamation of all the spidermen from the comics. The armored face of green goblin was also reimaged for the first cinematic appearance of Norman's alter ego.
No, he didn't have the webshooters because he said Peter building webshooters made him unrelateable. That means he has no grasp of what makes him a relatable character
@@King-mg7vy Don't talk about what you know, you six-year-old newbie. The organic web-shooting was taken by David Koepp from the James Cameron script for a Spidey film. Sam Raimi was actually going to use mechanical web-shooters, there are footages of Tobey using self-made web-shooters. What happened was that Sam had a change of thought and scrapped the mechanical web-shooters. He said that his Peter was always short of money, and the same Peter being able to make mechanical web-shooters while no other company could make anything like this would not be believable to some of his audience (not all). That was his line of reasoning. But of course, this is inaccurate with respect to any Peter Parker Spidey comic.
There have been different actors playing the various roles in all the Spiderman films but Willem Dafoe IS the Green Goblin. He is the embodiment of the character I both hated and feared as a kid reading the comics.
He really knows how to play Da Foe
Man watching the first spiderman as a kid Williams acting scared the shit of me. Just the way he could change his personality made it seem like he was really haunted by this
@@garrett9562 exactly the same for me
Betty Brant: Your wife called. She said she lost the checkbook.
JJ: Thanks for the good news!!
Spider-Man 2 the kick in the bank to keep Aunt May out of the path of destruction was a great touch and in tune with the character.
Agreed. The Responsibility speech is still the best and most powerful. I remember getting chills hearing uncle Ben saying that live. I'd read it so many times in the comic books...it brought tears to my eyes. They've never been able to capture that again. Tom's Spiderman's storyline did a great job addressing the same concept without trying to compete. It was smartly written and respectfully done across-the-board.
rewatching all 3 recently I enjoyed sm3 a lot more than I remembered. it's still the worst one, but there's a lot to like abt it
yeah, its honestly not a bad movie, we could have gotten a whole lot worse, but it's still a fitting conclusion even if it is a little messy along the way
The reason why the original trilogy was memorable, was because of the producer LAURA ZISKIN
It was because of her and her husband (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the movies had depth
AVI ARAD on the other hand, just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
Unfortunately, she died in 2011, during the production of TASM1
Without her, there was no one to stop Arad from destroying the franchise
Spider-Man was nothing without her
Honestly, for any scene in Spider-Man 1 that has bad CGI, there 10 others with fantastic CGI. The final swing holds up very well today in my opinion.
I really liked Spider-Man 3. The way somebody begins to believe their own bullshite, get caught up in themselves. I like Venom in this movie far more than Tom Hardy's version.
I like spider man 3 it’s a movie I’m still addicted to the action scenes the 3 villains it’s just good 👍
Sam Rani & Christopher Nolan have the best Super hero Trilogies of all time!
I'm more a batman guy since he's my favorite superhero. I have more of a connection to the dark knight trilogy than I do with the sam raimi spider man trilogy.
Seeing this video made me think back and be less salty towards Spider-Man 3. At the end of the day it's still a part of my childhood, just like the other 2 movies. 🕷
RIP Laura Ziskin and Alvin Sargent
Spider-Man was nothing without them
true
Could have done without Sargent lines like “I hunch” or “Punch me, I bleed.”
I love when horror directors make superhero movies
Ya you can see thy love what they make and not just looking for a paycheck
@@jamieglines this is why Spider-Man 3 didn't work
Because Avi Arad expected Sam Raimi to act like one
speaking of the tray scene at lunchtime , you can watch corridor crew recreate that after numerous takes .
its really cool.
The Raimi trilogy is the best Spiderman trilogy to date, though Spider verse also comes close.
It sure is a revolutionary film series, especially the second one.
I was always curious as to why Green Goblin captured Spider-Man but never decided to unmask him when he had the chance. The official novelization explains that it was a matter of honor -- to simply unmask him in Spider-Man's weak state would have been too easy. It would also defeat the purpose of him wanting Spider-Man to independently decide to join him.
"I COULD SQUASH YOU LIKE A BUG RIGHT NOW. But I'm offering you a choice."
I used to think this was a plot hole, but I really don't think it is. I think Goblin genuinely felt like it would be wrong, in that moment, to unmask him. It would be too easy.
6:40, “unforeseen” I just see Mike myers doing the finger quotes 😂
Agreed. They should have singly focused on Venom. Intro him in Spiderman 3, the S4 is about V and that storyline.
True I just feel like that character is totally wasted in any live action movie.
@@ThespeedrapSpider-man vs Venom sounds like a blockbuster to me. Not sure what you are thinking about
@@peteyprimo7173 WHY won't they make it happen maybe it will change my mind a little.
Venom was a studio mandate, Sony and Avi Arad were/are out of touch idiots, and Sam Raimi wasn't happy making Spiderman 3. Many people are able to enjoy Spiderman 3, without having their opinion spoon fed to them by internet opinion.
Raimi didn't care for Venom. He was a classic Spider-Man fan. Lee-Ditko and Lee-Romita. He was into the villains from that era. Venom was alien to him, pardon the pun. He would never have put his heart truly into a Venom story.
That Meme, "You know Peter I'm somewhat of a scientist myself"
You're forgetting the 1970's TV series that starred Nicholas Hammond, probably best known as Frederich in The Sound of Music (1965).
J K Simmons is the best Marvel casting ever.
As a life long New Yorker, thanks to the 1st Spider-Man, I'm still trepidatious about ever getting on that goddamn tram.
Spider-Man 1&2 should be sent into space they’re that good
Awesome! This is what I would like to see
Timeless nostalgic classic 🕸 🕷
I think they're good movies except the third one but they're a little overrated and I'm not a huge spider man fan or the character. My childhood of the trilogy was the second and third films since I was too young when the first spider man came out in 2002 and he's not favorite superhero. I didn't watch these movies a whole lot during my childhood and they were other movies that loved way more than the tobey magurie spider man films for me personally.
8:29 I love thewall crawling scene. And the jumping scene it looked wierd even in 2002, when he ran it seems like Woody from Toy Story. And sure it doesnt hold up. I still love this movie
Speaking of conveniences in 3, does anyone else find it convenient that Gwen just happens to show up at the exact same restaurant that Peter and MJ are at? Like out of all the restaurants in NYC she just so happens to be where those two are at
If Burton had gotten to make another Batman movie then no but Yes I agree. It started all this madness we have now. Plus the new spiderman games that were coming out were great games helped a lot also.
I feel like Tim Burton's Batman was his favorite character like Raimi was for Spiderman it was the studio interference that messed up the best superhero movies we had before we ever did the cinematic series that's gotten played out now.
Spiderman 3 was ment to have a different more horrific ending showing that when the Symbiote pulled away all that was left of Eddie was his skeleton (Spiderman only survived due to his healing factor) and that Venom basically ate Eddie's skin and muscles and was shapeshifting to look like Eddie basically reanimating his corpse
Now that i think about it. Otto didn't kill anyone in this movie, like he didn't want to, everyone was just literally in his way of his dreams.
His wife died, but that was her fault, she stood there instead of fucking moved.
I would have preferred Spider-Man 3 to focus on Sandman and Harry without necessarily leading to Harry's demise. One aspect I'd find intriguing is exploring Venom's ability to reveal the memories and knowledge the symbiote acquired about Peter, which could lead to Eddie's transformation into Venom.
17:53 and mentioning the first EVER movie to cross the 100million opening weekend
After 15 years of listening to the criticisms of Spider-Man 3, I still can't understand them. "Bully Maguire is so cringey" ... yeah, did you not notice the characters in the movie cringing at him dancing down the street? It's supposed to be cringey. That's why it's funny. The attempt to criticize that aspect actually reinforces how that element of the movie works. People will criticize the film for having too many villains and they don't get enough development, meanwhile the same people will praise No Way Home, which has even more villains, which have even less to do with the story and have far less development. Meanwhile that film is shot like garbage, and has no memorable moments, yet Spider-Man 3 is tremendously well shot with tons of memorable moments. The criticisms against Spider-Man 3 just don't hold up to scrutiny and you're a hypocrite if you gave No Way Home a positive review. At least Sam Raimi is a good director. A bad Sam Raimi film is still better than Jon Watts' best film, because Jon Watts is a bad director, and still better than any Spider-Man film since.
I prefer Sam Raimi's entire trilogy over anything Marvel/Disney have done with Spiderman. That 3rd Tom Holland one, I can't remember the name, is an unmitigated mess and represents every thing I hate with modern film making. Every thing has to be connected for no reason, and no reasons will be given beyond "multiverse". It takes a skilled writer to create complex storytelling that a multiverse requires, and Disney doesn't do it. I know people are hardwired these days to clap for nostalgia bait, but I prefer storytelling over spectacle.
@@Psilocybin77 I agree with everything you just said. This may be where you stop agreeing with me because for many reasons, people just want to shit on this movie, but to add to what you said, a great example of the multiverse plot device used in an intelligent way is The Flash. It actually made sense in that movie as opposed to the 3rd Tom Holland movie where it was just non-sense. It also made sense because DC is rebooting their characters and that movie was resetting the table for new versions of the characters to appear in new films. For example, Ben Affleck wanted out of being Batman, so they literally swapped him out for Micheal Keaton with the intention of having him continue as Batman in the future. The Flash is one of the only recent comic book movies that's come close in quality to Raimi's trilogy of Spider-Man films and it was completely shit on by the hive mind the way they do with Raimi's trilogy now and praise garbage like Tom Holland's Spider-Man movies. Modern audiences are completely fucking lost to the craft of filmmaking and they have zero taste.
The one thing that the MCU Spider-Man fixed is explaining how Peter got a nice costume. Peter's poor. So how does he come up with something so fancy.
Also, two should have ended with this thing from outer space appearing in Central Park. Then we see several bright dressed characters heading for it. And Spider-Man follows them. Then, three starts with Peter reappearing from the structure in his black suit. Since they didn't know they were going to do Venom in three when they did two, they still could have started three this way. And the symbiont should have became whatever clothes Peter wanted it to be. Not just his suit.
He’s poor but he’s a genius who can make anything
What the hell is wrong with you?
The kissing scene is dope cause Kristen is STACKED and white t shirt lol (metaphorically speaking )
"LiL" Jimmy Norton @13:32 !!!!!! Great Cameo!!!!
It was awesome 👍
Ill always remember going to Newark,(yes the NJ one), to score drugs with my buddy before a trip to NYC and we turned out to have no problems due to the dealer remembering my buddy looking like "Spiderman" , aka Toby McGuire 🤣🤣🤣
Spiderman 3 was an amazing movie, it is unnecessarily hated.
I still remember being like 6 or 7 and my dad taking me and my brothers to watch the 1st Spiderman after that Spiderman became my favorite superhero ❤ when I was a kid kinda still is haha ahhh weird par too was that my dad never took us to the movies lulz
Spielberg also could've directed Spider-Man but he turned it down. It's crazy how DiCaprio's good friend would be become Spider-Man. I'm so glad I was able to see the first one in theaters and became a part history. Unfortunately didn't see 2 and 3.
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Raimi for me made the perfect Spider-Man movies because it has a level of corny that is just my fav thing in the world. I love the cheesy one liners. I love goblins suit. I love tobey maguires awkward ass performance, I love the god damn Spider-Man suit. I know people praise andrews for having the best but for me I don’t like the material of TASM2s suit. For me this is everything I love about Spider-Man and everything I love about films :)
ALSO THE SCORE ❤❤❤❤
I think personally they should give Garfield and Tobey one more movie. Garfield can finally complete his trilogy and Tobey could make a movie guiding a young miles morales
Can't stand the big eyes on the Garfield suit and he's too gangly and tall looking. As a John Romita fan (the definitive Spider-Man artist), it's Raimi for me.
@@lyndoncmp5751 I super agree. I think while TASM2s suit is most accurate to comics it doesn’t translate well to the big screen
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Yep. I'm with you.
Yes Sam Raimi's Spider Man is still the best spidy. Im sorry but Spider Man 2 is a masterpiece in cinema making. It has all.
Stan Lee Said That In A Radio Interview That He Thought John Cusack Would Be A Perfect Choice To Play Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Only one thing fries my brain since 2007 . Sandman's outfit . I mean it comes back everytime he turns and yes , Im serious .
Imagine if there was a live action film version of Ultimate Spiderman taking on Ultimate Green Goblin 😳. I think the idea of morphing back and forth from Goblin monster/beast and creating fire balls is very clever and gangster 😀
Amazing Spider-Man series was meant to be more like Ultimate but they didn't commit enough
@@positivetakes5592 The hereditary Spider-Man thing was the worst thing. Just like Snyder butchering Superman's character in Man of Steel.
I personally love Spider-Man 3, marvel and Sony would be insane to not get Tobey back in secret wars, especially seeing as he was excited to come back for no way home
so, Spider-Man 3 was the first time I was disappointed by a modern Marvel movie... from Blade, to X-men, to the first 2 Raimi movies, each one got better. But, like the X-Men: Last Stand, there was a confluence of ideas that sort of sunk the third one. You mentioned that the studio's forced some things on Sam Raimi, but I remember reading at the time that both Toby & Sam didn't want to do more movies after the third one. I think that there were originally 2 more planned after the third one, which were going to feature either sand man and/or the new goblin. So, my opinion is that this third one rolled any potential sequels into one movie so that they could move on and do other things.
In the end, i think its more re-watchable than some of the other sequel failures, mostly because of the quality of both the filmmaking and the acting.
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Oh Yeah. Gonna snap Spider-Man like a Slim Jim.
The Raimi series wasn’t a whole lot less cartoony and silly than the Schumacher Batman films, but unlike those films, the tone actually fit. Batman should be slightly darker than the other superhero movies. Spider-Man and Superman should be on the lighter end. If you have your tone actually fit the character, you’ll be fine. It’s why Deadpool worked. Nobody was aiming for a box office friendly PG-13. They just told a story that fit the character and let everything else fall into place. People want to see these characters be themselves.
I honestly think the Holland Spider-Man is much sillier and more childlike.
I didn’t especially dislike Topher Grace as Eddie. He was as so many others have said, under developed. Perhaps he should’ve been introduced in the latter half of Spider-Man 2 to better serve his entry in the third film. Visually as Venom, it was a decent look, but the development and portrayal were just so wrong.
I like all 3 movies
Sam Raimi is amazing
But I felt his passion reduced in Spider-Man 3 because of Avi Arad's interference
Spider-Man 3 is unironically my favorite
the only thing I didn't like about it was the characterization of Eddie Brock. I don't care how close he is to the comics, I didn't read them, but he's kinda douchy and he'd have been much more tragic if he was more of a victim, which would have made his motivation stronger. Instead, they try to establish him as kind of a prick early on and it just doesn't work
Everything else about this movie, I absolutely adore. And this includes the dance scene, which makes me miserable in all the right ways. Our sweetheart Peter who we followed for two movies now has become such a chode that he's completely unrecognisable and it broke my heart, when I watched it
It's a masterpiece in my opinion and beats out the first two for me, just cause hero corruption is such a great plot device
Spider-man 2002 came out in May of that year. And lol you really didn't mention the entire fight and back and forth with Peter and Harry just the one line. But then act like he exits the film....
Yes.
No ,absolutely no ?.
Quick edit. The first movie was released in MAY 2002. Not April. Otherwise a fine video.
I think the movie Life is an unofficial prequel of the Venom character.
Spiderman 3 suffered was they had too many villains in the movie and should've just focused on 1 like the other 2.
What I want to know is why is Spiderman the only character who looks different in other universities
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What we need is the amazing Spider-Man three were Andrew Garfield find his Mary Jane
I do believe the original Spider-Man trilogy set the bar for not only marvel movies to follow in the next decade but superhero movies in general because I got tired of seeing Batman and Superman on the big screen. I wanted to see other superheroes get some love. I think Spider-Man ushered in marvel superheroes as well I think the whole trilogy is good on its own. Obviously the first two movies are some of the best. Superhero movies of the genre. The third one was just an overloaded convoluted mess which closed out the original trilogy in a very disappointing way but all in all fantastic series.
Divisive Spiderman far from home???? I have never heard that from anyone, ever. It's very popular
When you said does this match up against today's incredible standards I was hoping you were high man 😂 👀
The greatest superhero trilogy of all time in my opinion! Right there with the Dark Knight and Guardians!
How is Far From Home divisive?
The first 2 Spiderman movies are the best made in the Superhero genre. Although I still see Spiderman 2 being the best of the bunch, as Alfred Molina Doc Ock is much better both in his costume design and look. While Spiderman 3 is the weakest of the Tobey Maguire trilogy, although it has a few good sequences but otherwise forgettable.
One thing I would have pointed out, at the end of Spider-Man 2, the reflection of the World Trade Center Towers can be seen as MJ looks out the window. An obvious nod to the scrapped promotion for the first movie where a chopper was caught in a spider net between them. Sony felt it was too soon after 9/11 to do that.
Parts of Spider-Man 3 work for me, some don't. It is the weaker ion the trilogy. Topher Grace was WAY miscast in this role.
And, No Way Home made me love the performances of Maguire, Dafoe, and Molina even more. Tobey NEEDS to be in Secret Wars. Garfield too but with a lower case needs.
#makeraimispiderman4
The first Spiderman movie is unmatched. Its not just a great comic book movie, its a great movie in general. The rest of the Marvel movies feel fake, and unrealistic. They don't seem like they could ever happen in the real world.
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NWH
But you know who else deserves a big thank you?
LAURA ZISKIN
It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy had depth
Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
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Although the movies are great, I can’t say that I’m a fan of the casting choice for Peter. Tobey Maguire was just too awkward looking for me; I hated the way he runs and I hated that stupid grimace he makes whenever he’s overexerting himself. I think Jake Gyllenhaal would’ve a far better Peter Parker. Also, a different actor makes sense considering how most of the crew also disliked Tobey Maguire. I also wish they’d given MJ more to do other than just to bang every major male character or scream repeatedly throughout all three films.
Man I loved these movies and still do. I just never like MJ, her writing and Kirsten Dusnt is ehh hit or miss. I mean i don't like her acting thay much tbh. I preferred Gwen from SpiderMan 3
If Sony greenlits SPIDER-MAN 4, they'll have to get rid of AVI ARAD
Or else it will be just another failure
#AviAradOut
The only real issue i have is spidey dropping off go lins \ normans corpse. What a kind and considerate "murderer" right? Dumb Harry...but NO SECURITY for sandman in 3? He knocked out a k9 unit and jumped a 10 ft fence dude. There was def security set up, but also, its avi arads fault that things didnt get enough time and or explanation, he forced venom into the film
Topher Grace was definitely miscast
Mj should have had a different arc, maybe she should have redeemed and married harry in spiderman 2. Never liked the dynamic between parker and mj
Ofc James Cameron made the original spider-man script lmao who else could make a better writing.
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I hated the amazing spider movies. I fust didn't like how he looked. Spider man 3 wasn't so bad to me. The first 2are classics.
Kirsten Dunst was miscast.
AI generated script 🙃
..sigh.. okay ...deep breath... okay, Spiderman 3. Let's do this. Uhg.
Never liked the cast.
Maguire was too wimpy and never witty enough and Dunst was just not a smokeshow as MJ is supposed to be.
Andrew Garfield much better Spidey.
Basically the movie is a cluster-fuck. Good moments but overall poorly done.