Screw Type Stitch Length Regulator R&R
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- This video covers the removal and replacement of the screw type stitch length regulator commonly found on vintage Singer sewing machines such as the 127, 128, and early models of the 15, 66, and 99.
EDIT: I just added a video specifically addressing the Model 99 and the lack of a hole in the back of the pillar. You can find it here:
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Wow you have a great way to explain how to clean these machines, I appreciate that your labor will prevent these machine to be lost, by being thrown to the garbage or misplaced in a basement they are part of our history and if they have survived for so long we can give them a second chance ❤
Thanks for video ! Once I watched it seemed way too difficult for me 😊so I oiled and oiled inside and around the screw and kept turning it and wiping and now it turns with no problems.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I just got a 66 today off Craig's List that was all jammed up. Everything (almost) was easy enough to get loose with some penetrating oil and Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant. The huge exception was the stitch length regulator knob -- absolutely frozen. I looked into the mechanism as best I could but frankly was very hesitant about taking it apart and not too confident I could clean it all up and put it back together properly. You have saved me!
Your videos have given me the courage to tackle the refurbishing of my 1916 singer 66 Red Eye. I completed this part today and am so pleased!!! Thank you so much! You’re such a great teacher!
You sir are the best teacher! I have a 1917 Singer 66 Redeye. She was completely froze up. I have been watching your videos and after 4 days and many, many hours and more oil than I have used in my entire life and a blow dryer and so much tenacity and lots and lots and lots of patience I finally got her to move! I just watched this video and I'm going to tackle the stich regulater screw. Thank you for making these highly useful videos. Bless you. Tina
Thanks Christina, I'm glad it helped. It just takes some patience and elbow grease!
Your explanation of the relationships of the pivoting components was especially well-timed as it showed the linear ratios of the various cam angles in a very easily understood manner. When the various angles are so well detailed it shows the progressive and logical sequence that many of these tutorials lack. The cut-a-way model allowed what you were saying to be more readily absorbed and stitched (sic) together with your clear narration. A picture is truly worth a thousand words and you coordinated this subject matter excellently on both counts.
Mike Kirwan - Kenmore, WA
Thanks Mike, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I learned at about age 12 how to use my Mom's Singer Model 66-1. My Mom died when I was 19 and shortly thereafter my Dad bought me a new Singer electric sewing machine. I am 71 now, so for over 50 years I have kept my Mom's old Singer inside my house, but have not used it. I got a longing to get the machine in working order (before I die) and leave it in usable condition in hopes that my daughter or my great nephew will want to keep it and use it. The repairs the machine needed appeared to. be minimal. It needed a good cleaning, a new tire for the bobbin winder and a new needle. Had to replace the drive belt of course. I got the new drive belt installed. After a lot of worry and watching videos online, I cleaned the treadle more thoroughly and oiled it again and THE MACHINE WORKS WONDERFULLY. What I want to ask you is this; I have cleaned with sewing machine oil the body of the machine and all the working parts that I can get to. Is it very important that the working parts of the machine be dissembled and cleaned more thoroughly for this machine to continue working? I love your videos. Thanks so much for posting. Look forward to hearing from you.
Hi Donna, It is NOT necessary to go to the lengths that I do to get a machine up and running. I go to extremes to show how it's done (or at least how I do it) and to show what's possible. As long as the mechanism is moving smoothly and is free of dirt and lint, you should be fine.
You do good job about explaining where things go
Glad it helped!
This was excellent Bob!! Your videos are always so well done and easy to understand! Loved the ratchet tip too!
Awesome, thank you!
Now have the confidence to tackle this job. Many Thanks...
Thanks, Bob, I learned so much from this one video. Your cut away machine and camera work were very helpful. I'm now headed to your other videos.
Thank you so much. I have a 1914 66 Red Eye over here that was left outdoors in her treadle for a good five years, maybe more. Filthy and frozen. Thanks to lots of your other videos, it's moving. Except for the stitch regulator screw ... I'm so grateful.
I'm glad my videos are helping!
You explain things very well. Thankyou. I have just received a 1906 treadle 66. I am so excited to restore it and find your videos an excellent resource.
That cutaway is awesome!
Thank you so much for your reply. I got WAY ahead of myself. Took the hand drive wheel off in order to install the new "tire" I had bought for the bobbin winder. Thought I had completely ruined my old machine because when I put the drive wheel back on the machine wouldn't work. Went back to the web and found what I had done wrong in putting it back together. At least I think I have it back on right. When I used the bobbin winder the needle kept going; but I read that could happen sometimes. Wish me luck. Thanks again.
I bought one of these 66's yesterday from a Habitat for Humanity store, but have to go pick it up next Saturday or Friday, it freely turns they said and looks good, so hoping it wont need more than general cleaning and lubrication :)
This vidoe was very helpful and instructive for me. I removed the Stitch Regulator this morning and plop, the part fell out of the machine.
When I went to put it back in, I had great difficulty, but with the knowledge (secrets) I took from the video, I'm sure I can put everything back together properly after cleaning.
Thanks a lot for this.
Glad it helped!
Very well done. Thank you for your time and infomation on how to.
You are very welcome
This was so Helpful !!! thank you for your precise instruction. I will be subscribing
This was wonderful! Thanks for making it.
Thank you too!
Yep - guess what? I'm here again, now for a 1903 model 28 I'm thinking of working on today. I know how to do this now but I still like to watch this all the way through each time I do it. :-)
Try taking it apart and putting it back together several times. You'll get a lot more comfortable with it if you do.
So glad I found you. At the beginning of lock down I took apart a Singer 128 "La Vencadora" to keep my sanity and then had to figure out how to get it back together. I took lots of pictures, so that was a huge help. I use a Costco plastic apple container to put my parts into, not sure I could figure out what went where if I just put them all in one place. My apple container has numbered compartments and I write down on a pad where the parts came from. Found the adjusters manual online --my feed dogs were hitting the plate and had to figured out how to fix this--took three days a couple hours a day--to get them adjusted. The machine came with a motor that has the chicago plugs, this is far beyond me "figuring out" so I converted it to a treadle model. It is my favorite to sew on, completely understand what you are saying about the sound of these vibrating shuttle machines...pure music. I am currently doing the cleaning of my Sphinx so your videos are familiar from the 128, but very glad to have the guidance this time. My next project is my Singer 66 (1916) treadle--my least favorite because the thread spool keeps going crazy when I sew on it and then it tangles up. Hoping that taking it apart, cleaning and adjusting will fix it. Thank you again.
I'm so glad to be of help. BTW - If you're using cross wound thread on a vertical pin, it's not surprising it jumps around on you.
It shows you how close they were to backtac and didn't know it or didn't care at the time.
Very true, and you have to wonder which it is...
Really good well presented study. Thank you
Thanks!
This was a life saver. Thank you.
Great to hear!
I saw custom mass made back stich parts for all machines with screw. I cant remember the name of this "upgrade pack", but seen this thing on youtube.
Love all your help with these wonderful machines. Do you have a video on rewiring Singer 99 motor and spot light? Thanks
Another great lesson. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Yay - I got it out of my 1902 28K - after it's all had a good clean you can be sure I'll be coming back here to get it back together! (I have the Adjuster's Manual for the 127/128 but a video is so helpful). Anyway I had to thank you again and if (surely when) I get it all back together I'll come back to thank you again! By the way - once the other parts were out the thumbscrew in this one turned like butter too so I'll be really cleaning and lubricating very well all the bits before I put them back in.
Woohoo! Be sure to check out the video I just published on the bottom end of a 127. Glad to be of help.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Hmmm - Houston - I have a problem. I got it all back in after I cleaned it all up, put the thumbscrew all the way in and adjusted the eccentric screw so the feed dogs don't hit at the front or back. Firmed up all the screws and nuts etc in position and then could only turn the feed regulating thumbscrew about half way out. Then it just... Stops.
Do you (or anyone else) have any clues about what step I'm missing out or what I'm not doing quite right, please? This is while I've got the machine standing on its nose. Does it have to be sitting horizontal for the thumbscrew to turn all the way in and out? I wouldn't have thought so but maybe... Thank you for any tips and advice! Megan
@@meganmills6545 Is the little small protrusion on the arm of the sliding block engaging in the end of the thumbscrew properly? email me at argosybob@gmail.com
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Thank you Bob - due to your help I've been able to figure out that the problem wasn't with what I was doing - following your instructions just as you demonstrated WAS working perfectly. The adjustment needed was with me - my expectation was that the thumb screw should come out further than it actually does! All was working just fine.
So for anyone who might one day think they have the same problem I thought I did - if your thumb screw winds out for about 7 or so threads that' all it needs to do. After that it will stop and it's supposed to! That should take you all the way from your longest stitch (thumb screw screw all the way in) to your shortest of virtually no length at all (thumb screw out to about 7 threads). Nobody needs a shorter than zero stitch length. :-)
@@meganmills6545 I'm so glad it worked out for you Megan!
Just used this again - for a 1892 Singer VS2 this time. Slightly different because instead of the little access hole under the hand wheel there's a loooong "access porthole" on the back of the pillar. (It's quite nice, part you remove isn't a shiny plate like you have on the later machines, it's actually part of the body of the machine. I'm not sure if they cast the main machine head with hole and case a separate "filler" piece, or cast the head hole and cut piece out of it. Either way, I really, really like it.)
But aside from those differences, everything else was just the same. So if I could I'd give you another Thumbs Up. And the stitch length adjustment screw? It went from straining my hands and wrists and almost giving me blisters to wind out (and not quite that hard to wind in) to winding both ways as easy as pie and smooth as cream. YAY! Thank you again!
Awesome! Like I said, Singer wasn't out to reinvent the wheel with every new model. Here's a perfect example of how once you understand ONE machine, the others start to fall into line. Bravo Megan!
Thanks Bob
So helpful! Thank you!
I have a singer 128 with a hand crank, i was able to unfreeze the stitch regulator bolt with patience and oil, but it doesn’t change the stitch length an iota when i turn the knob.
Great video Thank you
I appreciate you!
On our Singer 27 (circa 1910) we have a clicking sound when the stitch regulator is fully closed (longest stitch length). The regulator block appears to be flexing in the channel of the stitch length knob and snapping back. When the knob is opened to half or more the movement and clickng sound disappears. The problem seems to be the angle at which the fork bearing moves in. Would this be a worn part, something to tight or something out of alignment?
After inheriting my grandmothers 1925 Singer 66 I have become a big fan of your videos... so informative!. I'm trying to renovate the machine to fully working order and I have it running pretty smoothly. The only thing I am having problems with is the stitch length regulator. There is no movement at all on the large screw at the front of the machine and is screwed all the way in. I've tried oiling externally and internally to try and get a bit of movement but no joy. Do you have any advice of anything else I can try?
Hello and fiset TY for the video. I have a 128 modele today decide to clean it was working A1- start to loose the nut for tension all the way out and now my machine do not work the mécanisme is jammed i am quite frustrated.... anyways keep thdd we video coming great source of info!!
Wow fix this part but still the needle bar fo not budge
@ If your needle bar isn't moving, it's most likely rusted into its bushing. Try using a penetrating oil and letting it soak. I like Aero-Kroil for that.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Hello I did it - whit visegrip I remove the wheel and place a cotton on the shaft and turn the needle stated to move I guess was just stuck TY for the previous info that you share . Be safe god bless
Do you have any info on changing/fixing the stitch regulator on a Singer IIIW155? Mine doesn’t work at all
I've never dug into one, but if onecomes my way, I'll shoot video.
I learned much about how this works. Very interesting. I see the industrial 31-15 has this type of adjustment. I don’t have one but might if I can find one in my area. Do you know if it is very similar to clean and disassemble?
It's very similar, and the concept is exactly the same. Singer didn't reinvent the wheel with every model...
6:39 About the thread length regulator screw, is it possible to remove without taking out other components?
For the means of cleaning and polishing it mainly. (Singer 66 model)
No, in order to remove the screw control, you must first remove the fork and stitch length regulator block.
Need you to play with a Singer 319W.
Any idea how to fix the regulator on a 95-80? I cant get a stitch larger than 1/8".
Did you find out how?
Very Good!.
Thank you! Cheers!
Because of your videos my singer 66 is now moving. Any advice on getting the stitch lenght thumb screw moving. I've tried Kroil & heat. It's pretty nasty inside the machine.
Sometimes you need to add some mechanical help to break that screw free. Wrap a piece of thin leather (or a belt) around it and use a pair of pliers to help it get going. Lot's of penetrating oil will help...
My stitch length knob just seems stuck. Can I loosen it somehow without taking the whole thing apart?
If I were to try that, I would unscrew it as far as I could (without forcing it) and give it a healthy dose of lubrication. AeroKroil works well as a cleaner/lube to free it up. Once you have it moving a but, try more AeroKroil until you get full movement. Not a good as disassembly and clening, but it should work.
I'm delighted to find this - I have a Singer 1902 Model 28 and another 1903. The 1903 thumbscrew turns like butter, the 1902 is really stiff! Is there anything special I need to know that is a bit different about the 1902 Model 28 from this video that will help me get it right, please? Thanks so much and regards... Megan
The basic mechanism is the same for all the screw type regulators. I just did a 128 the other day which is very similar to your 28. Easy peasy!
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Awesome - thank you.
Any advice for this on an early 99? Without that back opening I’m having the worst time getting it back together
Persistence and perseverance, along with a pair of tweezers to help get the block in the correct position. You'll get it there...
I just posted this one on that subject: czcams.com/video/6fpVqk_7lBI/video.html
Thank you so much for this video. My 1908 Lotus treadle machine's stitch regulator was completely stuck. Now it's out and cleaned up. Should I oil the screw now when I put it back. Also, what about maintenance? Is it part of the normal oiling routine. I don't want to gum it up again. Thanks again.
Glad that helped! Yes, lightly oil ther screw (just a drop) every time you oil the machine. You won't gunk it up, because new oil disolves old oil, so regular maintenance will go a long way to keeping everything moving nicely.
Thank you so much. I've learned so much from your videos.
Thank you for the excellent explanation on the workings of the stitch length. I didn't know about the eccentric adjustment. I maxed out the dog travel but still am getting about 6 stitches per half inch. I would like a longer stitch but maybe this is all I can expect from my 99k. Is this normal for my 1956 model do you think?
Maybe I should add that mine has the lever rather than the screw adjuster.
You should get at least 8 per inch, preferably 6. Make sure your presser foot is adjusted to a reasonable pressure and that your fed dog height is correct. 80% of the height of the teeth should be exposed above the needle plate at mid travel when the dog is in the up position.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Thank you for taking the time to help me Bob. I will take a look at the pressure adjustment and see what happens. Maybe I have been too gentle with the pressure amount or perhaps have a weak spring.
Bob, thanks so much for the great tutorial - still I don't understand how big or small the stitches should be or can be. I would like them to be smaller. I have a 1906 28 treadle. (I also cleaned and restored a 1956 Featherweight)
The stitches of the 28 are ...like 7 stitches per Inch and that is too big for my patchwork. So how small can I get them. Thank youu! 😊
Oh, and the stitch length screw is as tight and far in as possible. Cheers from Germany.
If you want more stitches per inch, simply screw the adjuster out. Always test on scrap to get the setting you want. You should be able to get well over 30 per inch, which is SUPER fine stitching...
Oh, oops, that was way easier than I thought 😄👍🏻 Thank you!
I tried it out on paper right away to see the effect without having to fiddle with thread.
Great video but my 99 doesn't have rear opening
Here's the info you need: czcams.com/video/6fpVqk_7lBI/video.html
My 99 has no back hole x.x
None of them do. It's a bit trickier to do a 99 than a 66, but a skinny magnet on a stick makes it easier.
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Thanks!
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