Common Responses Put Forward That Deny Baby Monkey Abuse
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Common Responses Put Forward That Deny Baby Monkey Abuse
Many concerned viewers will voice their concerns and knowledge about the content they are seeing on social media pet monkey channels. Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, many concerned viewers receive comments from people that are not helpful in the context of such an important issue regarding the welfare of these primates.
In this video, I discuss some of the more common responses put forward (quite often from monkey haters) that deny baby monkey abuse.
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They claim poverty but have good cameras and internet access. Truly poor people would not have these things
They get lots of money 🤑💰 from their videos which are staged and fake...with poor monkeys are forced to be the star...when it gets older they replace it with another baby!! 😞😞
I think it's funny when people say they're being taken care of when people keep them as pets. How can they not realize these monkeys get thrown away when they hit a certain age and replaced? How is that better? They have no skills then either pass a way from lack of food or are attacked for crying because their scared, ect. Ridiculous.
It really is ridiculous and sad!
People have commented that Bibi is not forced to walk on two legs; he CHOOSES to walk on two legs.
NO! The early videos of Bibi do not show the man’s face, so I don’t know if it was Quan. The man set a bottle of milk 3 feet in front of Bibi, who ran to the milk on 4 legs. The man yanked the bottle away. The man set the bottle down again 3 feet in front of Bibi. Bibi ran to the milk on two legs and was allowed to take the milk. Bibi had to walk on two legs or starve.
I have seen several videos that show how monkeys are “trained” to walk on two legs. I have seen videos that show monkeys with their hands tied behind their backs. The owners are proud to show this “training.” They say, “People train dogs.”
These people are not poor. They have decent houses, mopeds, cars, jewelry, knock off clothes.
Generally we don't take newborn kittens and puppies and other domesticated pets away from their mothers and force them to wear clothing and walk on two feet. We let them be what they are. When I see monkeys walking bipedally, it's not attractive and it looks akward and uncomfortable. I would rather see them walking normally, climbing and enjoying their lives.
Kaka’s previous owner visited her at the sanctuary, where Kaka walks on 4 legs. The previous owner ordered, “Walk on 2 legs!” (Twice) Kaka ignored the orders, and continued to walk on 4 legs. After being forced to walk on 2 legs for 3 years, Kaka immediately began walking on 4 legs at the sanctuary.
During a family visit to Kaka at the sanctuary, the “mom” said she would bring clothes for Kaka!
Deranged!
@@PatriciaKeel-ig9niI watched that video,he tried so hard to get her to walk bipedal. I think we were all proud of her when she walked away on all four legs.
@@linda-ll0404 OH, ARE U SERIOUS? I DIDN'T SEE THE VID, BUT GOOD FOR HER , I'M GLAD, SHE DIDN'T LISTEN TO THAT "HUMAN" EX OWNER.✌
@@b.c.3577 it was his first visit
@@linda-ll0404Yes, he gave her that carton of milk and held it up so she had to stand on two legs. She showed little interest in them until they brought out the food. I hope they are no longer allowed to visit.
Ich danke dir für deine Arbeit und die Zeit, die du investierst. Es muss endlich etwas passieren, damit alle Kanäle geschlossen werden, die Mißbrauch praktizieren. Jedes Lebewesen hat eine faire Chance verdient und es gibt keine guten oder schlechten Kanäle. Es ist immer Egoismus und Geld- Gier 💰. Das ist meine persönliche Meinung...😢
There are so many people love & enjoy this kind of entertainment....huge demand & market = huge profit.....just like cocaine, they would never be closed......
@@alantse4792 вот именно, те , кто смотрит каналы, подобные каналам с макакой Кака и Мит, с Биби,- в большинстве своем просто наркоманы, подсевшие на видео с таким контентом, они требуют возврата макак, забранных правительственныит организациями и переданными в НГО для обучения жизни в естественной среде, в дом страданий к их хозяевам- дрессировщиками и операторам видео, потому что хотят получить новую дозу своего наркотика - это видео с макаками в памперсах, одетыми в тесные платьица и ходящими на двух лапах.
I cannot tell you how many times I’ve been called a Karen. I always tell them, “That’s Miss Karen to you.”
Haha, I like that.
They're just screeching, "KaReN!" because they don't have the b@lls to call you what they really want to, which is a "cwnt". They're using, "Karen," as a censor-bot-friendly euphemism for "cwnt".
I mean, you're not being entitled and demanding to speak to the manager - therefore, you're not a "Karen".
aren't you just something special.. what makes you think you deserve to add miss to ur name..besides the fact your gonna be old as hell sitting wiith ur 37 cats 🐈
😂😂😂😂
@@marcrubens2610 you don't know me or anything about me so zip it.
Here’s one that makes me wonder about the commenter - how do you know? Were you there?
Poverty - these are not poor people, they have decent housing, cars, motor bikes, name brand clothing, jewellry etc.
Thank you for posting this.
As if :
1- we only knew for sure what we saw with our own eyes - what is the ourpose of education then ?
2 - deduction, logic and reasoning (putting twos and twos together) didn't exist ..
@Zaza-zr9ww I agree.
@@LadylifelearnerThanks 😊
thank you for another well made video. i used to argue for the pet owners, then i realized the truth and started arguing for the animals and then i realized they dont care what you say and they are always right no matter what kind of factual evidence you have. i did a lot of research on monkeys because i wanted one but the more i searched the more i new being with humans is not what they need. i even talked my sister in law out of getting one and presented her with suitable arguments against exotic pets. i have since quit commenting on pet monkey channels and have noticed i am not as stressed lol. i do have questions about a few of the monkey channels from the US that seemingly take very good care of their monkeys, i know its not ideal but my question is that if they purchased it ,didnt they sort of save it? even though they are not getting everything they need to survive naturally , they are getting the best care the people know how and seemingly the monkeys are in good health, though some seem to have social or psychological issues however minor.i dont believe now that anyone should have a monkey but there is a channel i want to know about they are Hispanic and have capuchins and they love on them and stay in their faces with kisses and let the babies sit with them . something seems off with them. there are quite a few but that one seems off to me the most, because you can see the psychological issues the monkeys have by their actions. though they are very well taken care of. there are quite a few based in the US that seem to take good care but you just know that its sad for the monkeys not to be able to be what they are supposed to be.
Thank you for watching Teresa! I agree with you, it is so sad for the animals and i completely get that many pet monkey owners do intentionally harm their monkeys. It's a really tough issue isn't it?
@@monkeymercy124 a very very tough issue 😞 I wish more people would realize what happens to you tube animal stars , not just monkeys but almost all animals that are used for monetary gain. I advocate for all animals but love monkeys
That's incredible that you got informed and found the truth. To answer your question, no, they are not saved when they are purchased. If they are in the United States then they were bred just to be sold and buying one means that there is more incentive to breed another, then another. They are only sold as babies. Ripped from their mother's arms screaming for her. Statistically, they will be dumped if they can even find a place that will take them with every sanctuary past capacity. You have noticed yourself that monetizing life is risky business. Their owners have turned them into an entertainment product and are curating what we see. They're also conditioning the suspecting public to think that these creatures are pets, thereby once again contributing to the cruel primate trade with owners who will not have the means or knowledge to give them a semblance of any quality life. Like you said, there's something off. They need their troop and acres upon acres of land. Not ad revenue and diapers. It might be the best of the worst but still an awful existence for them.
@@nicoliony thank you for explaining, that made it clear to me. i was wondering the channels that have them in diapers and i can see there are psychological issues but they seem to love tgeir caregivers even though i know they belong in the wild and the care givers take good care of them, the only thing i saw about these particular monkeys is they have no proper outside access ar a way to socialize other than with each other.(theres three of them)
@@teresascrochetandanimals awwww those poor monkeys. Even the most well intentioned humans would have an almost impossible task caring for their needs. And even the most abused monkeys will still try to cling to their caregivers and seek love from them. It's deeply ingrained on their psychology to love their primary caregiver since they are so completely reliant on their mothers and spend all day clinging to her fur for most of their childhood. Have you seen a channel called monkey sentinel? They have some really good videos on the psychological mechanisms at play here. It's really well researched but easy to watch. The guy is a professor. Id start with the oldest videos for the kinds of questions you have or stuff you've noticed (which is dead on the money btw). It's super fascinating stuff! I'm always so happy to see people who actually care about them so if you have any questions def feel free to ask me. Im not an expert but I work in the animal welfare field and I try my best to be educated on monkeys even tho they aren't part of my job.
Je voudrai seulement que ces chaînes soit sanctionnées c est une honte ils gagnent des fortunes en exploitant ces pauvres petits singes
Continuez à dénoncer ces chaînes d ailleurs il faut les nommer
Et ce qui me peine le plus c est abonnés qui en redemande honte à eux
@matthewdonnelly3683 No, they can't be domesticated. They can temporarily semi-adjust to the lives they are forced into, but they remain wild animals. They develop neurotic behaviors, begin self injuring and when they reach maturity, revert back to the nature as if the things they were taught ever happened
I've been trying to educate viewers on exactly what you just said!! But it's like I just hit my head against a brick wall!! Don't these people have any sense at all!!! 😞😞😞
I agree with everything you said in this video. I have been called names for saying similar things that you state in this video. Most animals are better off in their own natural habitat. Humans shouldn't interfere with them.
there's not so much name calling as you suggest from my experience, its people who dispute that monkey mothers get killed in order to make their offspring pets and video stars, or how come cow milk make them sick there's nothing else that they can feed on, or there are so many poor starving children in the world and you're bothered about monkeys shame on you........ but both monkeys and starving kids are worthy of our attention and action. Then there's the ones that say they walk on two legs all the time by their own choice and you're making it up that it damages their spines, hips and skeletal structure being trained to walk only on two legs..............
Ppl also dispute that e.g. donuts, sugary drinks, sugar added yoghurts, refined white rice with nothing else to go with it and candy are bad for monkeys, as they'll say they eat the same as us...... That's it not name calling generally, just people sometimes stridently disagreeing with people who wish to protect monkeys from abuse deliberate or in ignornce about the effects of being kept as a pet/video subject with the average owner who has little knowledge what a primate needs.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, I'm all for people disagreeing and having sensible arguments, but believe me the name calling and irrational arguments often put forward have been very real for so many people.
@@monkeymercy124Oh yes, i have been cslled Karen, hater, negative, envious...
Wonderful video😊
Aw thank you for watching!
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Why are my comments being deleted? I have left comments that are supportive of this video but they are being removed. I was going to subscribe, but not now. There was nothing in my comments that warranted being removed. More than half of what I have posted are gone.
YT will do it for their own reasons if they feel you've been commenting too much or something. It returns to normal after a while
Das ist tatsächlich CZcams.... das Prinzip versteht kein Mensch 😢
You tube is doing it to me as well. They will only allow viewers to make comments according to their guidelines and will only put up with it for so long if you make a lot of comments. You tube does not hold the monkey abuse channels to their guidelines though and let them scam people out of money with the monkey channels that clearly display exploitation and abuse.Monkey channels make youtube a lot of money.
I've been put into "CZcams Jail" a few times, now. They ban you from commenting for 24 hours. Cyberbullying is the catch-all reason. CZcams asks you to submit a feedback with all of your questions, but I've yet to get an answer of clarification. In the guidelines, they really do say that if you comment too much, they'll nail you for it. Also, if you use certain keywords, or even too many emojis, CZcams will hold your comment, and it won't show up. The channel creators can, automatically delete your comments. This is what happened to me the most BEFORE I STOPPED COMMENTING on the offending, abusive videos instead of just simply reporting them. If you've ever been to CZcams Jail, CZcams will pay special attention to your comments and 50% of the time, they won't show up in the comment section or your CZcams data.
Hi, I don't know why this is happening I'm afraid. I've had many of my own replies to viewers disappear too unfortunately!
Monkeys can be domesticated. This does not include potty training and everything we think of when think pets. Monkeys like people can and DO develop self identity based off of articles of clothing and appearance.
People are thinking like people here and missing the point.
No man will suffer being a play thing or slave. It will be miserable and they will rebel. Same for monkeys. They can be family but NEVER PETS or PRISONERS.
Monkey much like dogs will accept clothing, belongings, and gear as part of their identity within their circle. Also like us mostly only if their circle accepts and likes it. (positive comments help this behavior along in both species)
If you love a monkey you love it forever. Never give it up just as you would never surrender your pet or it is insane to even think , Your child.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE SHOULDNT TAKE BABIES FROM MONKEY MOTHERS. They ARE like us so much so that we can anticipate and recognize their emotions.
If you love something LEAVE it free, if it isn't free, liberate it! If it sees liberation as a choosing a life with you, honor it by giving it your entire life and effort as you would for your own human baby child.
One thing I don't understand is the nastiness in some of the comments. Nothing gets by this type of commenter. Bad grammar. Simple typos. But Heaven forbid they have their own opinion and voice it. I have marveled and wondered and some of the nasty and mean, and often very juvenile responses. And it doesn't even have to be disagreeing on if it is or isn't an abuse video. It baffles me at the amount of sheer hatefulness and how the anonymity of the internet lets them be as terrible as they want.😢
Drug abuse alcohol abuse now monkey abuse? WTF? 😸🙀😸
This is a difficult one. Without a doubt, anyone that exposes and highlights abuse on a channel is doing a good job, but at the same time there are definitely people out there who falsely accuse channels of abuse in an attempt to seek attention.
There is a channel based in Indonesia that has had a person accusing them for 2 years now. The accuser has never proved even a single instance of abuse and the channel has never been taken down.
I keep putting it to the accuser that either the channel is NOT abusive or the accuser is no good at what she does. It has to be one or the other - or maybe both!
Accusation of animal abuse is a serious matter and nobody should be accusing if they aren't willing to offer proof.
Innocent until proven guilty - Always!
I totally agree and where there is no evidence of abuse then absolutely. Unfortunately, there is so much observational evidence of it still being shown out there and this is why so many channels are being taken down!.
If any monkey is being made to walk bipedal or is wearing clothing, there IS abuse. The clothing restricts their natural movement and prevents grooming,neither themselves or other monkeys. Grooming is vital to a monkey, it is how they socialize and the clothing prevents that.
обезьяны не в естественой среде- это злоупотребление, обезьяны носят памперсы- это злоупотребление, обезьяны носят одежду- это злоупотребление, обезьяны ходят на двух задних лапах- это злоупотребление
@@gsmith6026 Agreed
@@user-it4bn2er7k I agree with most of what you have said.
So the people that your talking about seeing grow and build things and that you would love to learn about what they are doing actually is exactly what they tried doing before they got the monkey have you not noticed that they show themselves doing their chores or home improvement almost the entire video and the baby only for a tiny bit? They got the monkey BECAUSE they can then shoe their home improvement videos on the animal platform because nobody watched their channel on the home improvement platform so they get the monkey so they can show their home improvement videos on the animal platform because people want to see their monkey notice the video titles don't say make blah for dinner construct a fence for blah blah and weed garden no but they do all of that titles say baby monkey blah drinks dads special juice or baby monkey does blah right? So that pisses me off because their are so many channels now that are doing exactly that if they wanted to make the video all about the monkey like they are supposed to because they are a channel on the animal platform because they say they have a monkey doing whatever in the video so they get their videos moved from where they were with other people showing home improvement type things some from over there showing the same stuff others showing how to install a toilet but then they get on the monkey category or animal whatever and they openly I thought very obviously don't have any interest in making a video with just the monkey like they ARE SUPPOSED TO they show themselves cooking bullshit pulling weeds feeding pigs digging shit up and fast clips of the baby alone crying then right at the end feed it a bottle or something and people like you are like that's a beautiful garden which then they think " great it worked let me tell my brother or cousin so they can get a monkey and do the same thing" they get way more views so more money with the monkey so please stop telling videos like that if you do how great they are I hate that they make a video of themselves when nobody wanted to see them they wanted to see the monkey but they dont care and make people watch them do glorified chores to see the monkey briefly
Thank you for taking the time to write such a long comment. Sorry, I am not quite understanding your comment, I have never commented on a channel telling them "that's a beautiful garden". I was merely pointing out that these people do not have to exploit baby monkeys to run a CZcams channel.
Thank you for explaining that! When people think they aren’t poor and don’t need to have a pet monkey, they don’t realize that CZcams is actually their main source of income and w/o it they’d have to go back to living in poverty. If you aren’t apart of their communist regime, you’re impoverished.
Sorry folks, its all nature even our part in it, however you veiw it. Everybody got to make a living, people, and monkeys. In many of the places these videos are made there is not a large modern opportunity and thats because there has never been alot of opportunities there. In some places people eat these things. ( Maybe, if you dont tell me what it is, you chop it up real small an mix up and I'm still going to offer it a banana just to be sure its dead) Sorry about the baby seals too. But Ibsaw first hand what happens when the baby naughas got out of control. Anyone remember dinette chairs in the 1950s ahuh. Naugahide. Dont let this happen to you. Just dont monkey around with these things.
you are joking about the naugahyde right? Just be cute and funny I assume? :D
@@matthewdonnelly3683 No not joking. Hunted them in the woods by the old Ford plant. We would pin them to the ground with a dinette chair, a squish them with our feet. But that was when I was younger. Now I am an original member of the Save The Baby Naughas. Movement. You live you learn.
maybe BIBI shouldn't walk on 2 feet or wear clothes, but I think he has a pretty great life otherwise..... the other channels def don't have a good life.
He doesn’t have a good life. Quan has fooled people into thinking he’s different…he’s not. He’s had several different Bibi’s over time and now that Bibi is getting older , suddenly, there’s a new monkey on the scene.
@@annet1784ABSOLUTELY!
He’s a wild monkey. He’s very social and very intelligent. He belongs with other monkeys not in a human home or a cage. He doesn’t need clothes. He doesn’t need diapers. He definitely doesn’t need human food. He doesn’t need a human “mom” or “dad”. He doesn’t need his own room or toys. He doesn’t need endless baths. He doesn’t need to be forced to walk bipedally. He needs to be free to be the wild monkey he was born to be. He is not here to entertain us.
Thanks for your comment, but this little guy really does not have a great life...
@laneybowdoin No, he doesn't have a good life. These people are nothing but con artists
Sono sincera, vedendo alcuni video con maltrattamenti espliciti, e soprattutto leggendo commenti cattivi, che deridono la sofferenza di questi animali, mi prende rabbia e disgusto e diverse volte ho commentato duramente, anche se mi riprometto sempre di non farlo più, diverse volte ho scritto che capisco la povertà, ma i maltrattamenti non sono giustificabili. Ho notato anche io che molte di queste persone hanno capacità notevoli che potrebbero essere usate in modo positivo e pure economico... Non sono razzista, ho parenti del sudest asiatico...ma se vedo una donna picchiare con una bacchetta una scimmia, deridendola e facendola stare in piedi con braccia alzate (era una sorta di punizione che ancora negli anni 70 si usava con i bambini a scuola: in piedi, dietro la lavagna con le braccia alzate)... Un "strega" mi parte spontaneo...
I completely feel this too...