Is the Future 3D Printed Shoes? - Adidas 4D Fusio - (CUT IN HALF)
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0:00 Bumper
0:10 Intro
0:31 History
1:40 Shoe Info
2:19 Upper
3:28 Midsole & How Its Made
7:06 Tests
7:57 Cut In Half
10:10 Cut In Half Reveal
10:40 Cut In Half Review
11:10 Does This Space Age Tech Actually work
13:02 Final Thoughts
13:20 Outro
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This shoe uses the original 4D midsole tech which does not have very advanced forward spring technology. The more modern Midsole with what adidas call the 'Bowtie Pattern" can be found on the 4DFWD are a massive generational leap in comfort. I've owned both styles and the newer tech is simply superior in every way. Great Video!
Thank you for the information! I hope Rose Anvil does a video about that one!
The lattice structure and the material used in the 4DFWD is so cool how it launches you forward! I just got some XPLR Boost and for a big guy like me they are so comfortable.
It seems to me that he bought the ones on sale. Those Fusio are around 70 bucks now
Agreed but ultra 4wd is super narrow
I actually think the 4DFWD is more squishy anyway
Here's a sales pitch for Adidas: "Our shoes are not as crappy as Nike's"
Eh. Nike makes three good shoe models for every good adidas.
Nike's marketing team is so good they'd just get Drake to drop an Adidas diss track
@@ThePartarar They really don't and their quality control sucks. This is coming from someone who thinks the AJ1 High/Low is the best silhouette.
“But still made by children in sweatshops”
@@Hanitcal69 Chinese proverb. "Our kids work in sweatshops making shoes to sell while American kids steal them and work on their gender identification." Got it.
Came for the shoe, stayed for the cat. Quick thing on 3D printing: stereolithography (SLA) printing has actually been around for decades, and you can buy a SLA (or MSLA) printer for really cheap. Carbon printers have some extra magic but even the cheap Elegoo printers work great for the home hobbyist.
Edit: I mentioned this in another thread but I’ll add it here: watching a physical thing get pulled out of a vat of goo using nothing more than light is like magic. It’s been around a long time but it’s still absolutely amazing.
Word. I remember seeing stereolithography footage on science & engineering programs like NOVA when i was a kid; at least the early-90's, maybe earlier. Was *very* sci-fi at the time, seeing a skull or whatever emerge from the goo.
For a while, before common man got a hang of it, the cheaper units were locked behind patents. At first, they weren't even on the markets, simply locked away. In theory, we could've had 3D printers back in the 80's, sure, not for Average Joe, but none of the tech that was required to get one running is new. And at that, back in the early 90's a few CNC mills were converted to use extruders to make precise casting blanks for machining plastic bits. Funny how that works, huh, old scrooges plopping their feathery arses on tech and locking it away for no good reason.
@@aserta with FDM printing, Stratasys got the key patents and built their business around them-they didn’t just sit on them. But I agree the 26 year duration of patents is waaaaay too long, and the giant wave of innovation that began in the 2010’s was because the Stratasys patents expired. Open-source companies like Prusa Research have pushed FDM technology ahead far more than Stratasys ever did. Patents should be good for 3-5 years, tops.
as an FYI, Carbon is not SLA technology, it is DLP. The processes are different and comparing an Elegoo or hobbyist printers to a Carbon machine is such a bad comparison you really shouldn't even compare them.
@@Fishbone8891 Carbon’s magic isn’t DLP; you can get DLP in hobby-grade printers these days. It doesn’t really matter if the UV light comes from a laser (SLA) a masked UV source (MSLA), the magic in Carbon printers is their management of oxygen. It allows them to move the curing away from the UV source so that the printer doesn’t do the raise/lower cycles after each layer. A traditional SLA/MSLA printer spends most of its time un-sticking the part from the UV source whereas a Carbon printer can just pull continuously-it’s much, much faster.
I had some 4d shoes, they are pretty cool and are also pretty comfy in a firm kind of way. The only problem is (like you said) the holes get stuff stuck in them super easy, including a worm which I saw coming out of them once!
I hear you on the firmness, but I haven't had any issues with the holes yet. I don't take them into the dirt or mud though; just to the gym or store.
I bet that worm had an interesting time
The idea of going to an Adidas store and getting a custom sole that fits me is very, very exciting. I hope that's something we see in this lifetime. If nothing else, it'll put some pressure on Dr. Scholls.
head office of Adidas: ‘we need to crush this doctor putting stuff in outlet shoes’
There's a fitness store my partner goes to in Prague which has a machine to measure her foot, how she runs, and puts weight on different areas of her foot, and makes a custom insole based on the measurements...
My job is to design and 3D print dentures in a dental lab, and Carbon is a big name in that space! I work with Asiga printers because you can actually buy them, whereas Carbon printers are only available for lease. That's right, you pay by the month or by time spent in operation, no option to buy outright. The technology is amazing, however the promotional material shows product rising out of the resin pool smoothly. But in truth, there is an "up and down" motion repeated thousands of times (one for each layer printed). Carbon has the speed print down, but depending on the type of resin used and the thickness of the printed layer, prints can take 8-10 hours or more.
The only thing that i really hate about the recent trend is the bulky larger heel. That it goes further of where the heel actually ends
I do not find that aesthetically pleasing either. It's ugly, sort of in the way a Toyota Prius is ugly ... just mal-proportioned.
@@cacogenicist Totally! The rest is actually innovative and cool.
I call the "elephant foot".
just saying here, I got the micro adjust belt and it's great honestly. really nice leather and measured to fit is right on. he didn't pay me, but im glad i got it. if you haven't had high quality leather before, it's very cool!
This particular Toaster is awesomely cool! 😻
As for the 4D Fusio, its open-lattice-structure midsole will eventually collect dirt, pebbles/sand, dry grass, etc. which would be impossible to clean out.
Exactly what I was thinking. As to how that was not though of in foresight, who knows...
I have been through two pairs of 4D running shoes and am about to buy a third. I prefer them, firstly, because the midsole is super durable compared to Ultraboost, so I don't have to coddle them on runs.
The second thing is the FWD midsole is less about vertical rebound and much more about 'forward efficiency.' It's not as springy, but I find over a long run I become less fatigued with the help of the forward propulsion. And the targeted densities.
Third is, because I give these a light clean regularly, they stay much fresher than the white foam midsoles of other shoes. Foam midsoles stain really badly over time, so running warm, soapy water through these once a week makes them fresh for the life of the shoe.
And suprisingly great underfoot ventilation.
Being a die-hard boost head Ultraboost was something I wore exclusively. They are confortable, stylish, and versatile. However as I get older I find, to my dismay, the amazing softness of the midsole is giving me foot fatigue on the top of my arches and also the big toes area. 4D midsoles alleviates all of that. They have a firm give when you first step into a new pair, but it also provides a sensation of "embracing" your foot. They provide all day comfort and support without feeling mush-y. And trust me, they get more comfortable as you wear them in.
So far I have had zero problem with materials being stuck in the midsoles in all my 4D sneakers. The price is really stiff yes, but they are definitely worth it when they go on sale.
Congrats, you've figured out soft shoes ruin your feet
@@placeholder3863 No that's not the case at all. It's about finding the right cushion setup for your age, and for the right occasions. I wore boost predominantly for the longest time, and they were the bee's knees. But as I'm over 40 now I need something firmer if I were to be on my feet all day. Plush cushioning is still great when I go for a walk or a jog.
As an owner of the original Futurecraft 4d that's made in Germany, it's not as comfortable as the UB, but still the dopest shoe to this day.
I’ve been waiting for a video about the 4D’s for a while. Thanks for all that you do.
I got mud into my 4dfwd when I wore them on a rainy day, but they were relatively easy to clean with a garden hose lol.
I like the shoes for the most part, but I still like lightstrike (especially lightstrike pro) and boost shoes over it for the time being, mostly due to weight.
I don't really feel any benefit from running with these versus something like the takumi sen 8 which you can get for cheaper as well.
This tech probably has to cook for a lot longer before it's really good; it definitely is a cool concept though!
4D Fusio is a great pair indoor workout shoe, best I have ever had. With bouncy midsole often you're sacrificing the ankle stability, and 4D Fusio hits the right balance for me. I have gotten the other pair of 220$ Adidas 4D shoes, which is a bit bouncier -- imo less great for training purpose. I sound like a blindsided advocate, but I really love my 4D Fusio
Thanks for doing the vid! Great to see your take on them. I'm a big 4D fan and own several pairs.
This original 4D sole is a lot firmer than the new generation 4DFWD and it's "squish" factor is totally different league. As an experiment, I actually soaked a brand new pair of 4DFWDs in boiling water for a few hours and it totally changed the softness of the 4DFWD structure. I use it for casual walking and it is by far the best in comfort for all day, everyday wear!
I remember when Adidas launched this product in 2015. Their was hype they would have these 3d prints in store to custom make shoes within 5 years. I don’t think they will not make custom shoes any time soon.
Vivobarefoot and Pangia have already started making custom shoes
@@Winford.Studios that's like saying that custom shoes have been a thing since the invention of shoes
@@Winford.Studios Vivo is currently a trial run and they need to accept you as “pioneer”. While Pangaia’s has better “availability” but their are still two issue. The whole sneaker is 3d printed which I would imagine affect comfort and the quoted availabilily for shipping time is anywhere from late October to mid January.
Best video ever , great job , the way you describe the manufacturing process makes this in my opinion You best video ever.
Awesome!!! I wanted to see inside this shoe ever since they announced it!
How did I not find your channel earlier!? Super cool and so is your cat!
I'm learning to recreate this pattern using blender to try 3d print my own 🙂
I agree with your conclusion, the future of footwear is customized, OPEN and Distributed!!!
I have a feeling that someday soon we will come full circle with shoe “tech” people will just be back in anatomical shoes made of natural materials
I hope this takes place soon, because there's an obsession for soles tech but the upper part of the shoes are becoming like clowns' shoes (narrow and pointing upwards).
I bought a belt last week and it is fantastic. The veg tanned leather is sooo good. Well made Rose Anvil. Thank you.
Love my 4d fwd 2, and I had ultra 4d before. the tech is super cool and as everyday shoes that don't hold you back they are my all time favorites.
This was fascinating. Thank you.
When I worked at the General Motors Engineering plant in Warren, Ohio in the early mid eighties they used three D printing for the first time ever to make the prototype electrical connectors for their car wiring harnesses before making a mold to produce the connectors. It took an entire day to make one connector.
Always a joy to see Toasty.
i bought a pair of custom zellerfeld 3d printed shoes and i love them. super wacky style and pretty comfy.
Your comparisons are hilarious
I was literally re-watching Dune and I saw this thumbnail hahaha. Love your videos man!!!
Great video!! As a sneakerhead and someone who own the Adidas 4DFWD, I can say it is worth every penny. This specific model has Adidas’s and Carbon’s newer 4D midsole tech which has a different structure than the first 4D midsoles from Adidas, which I believe is also used in those 4D Fusio. Basically, the newer 4D tech is more springy (making it more suitable for their running shoes, hence why its in the 4D FWD), and is actually more comfortable than the original version. I love my pair of 4D FWD.
Yes, things do get stuck inside the midsole, so you don’t wanna put it through dirt or mud. It is very much a city walking/running shoe. But, it’s a small price to pay for tech that’s really pushing the boundaries, and a still comfortable shoe.
Welcome back Toaster! 😻
I wonder if they will eventually be able to print them to fix posture. Like gradually changing the shape like invisaline braces to slowly fix a incorrect joint or something. Maybe even correct bunions over time.
Thank you very much for the analysis.
I have a small note that will help you analyze your shoes in more detail after the cut.
You need to make cooling for the cutting machine. This is necessary because during cutting the temperature of the cutting blade increases and it thermally deforms the cut sites for materials made from materials with a low melting point.
Thank you !
Adam Savage has a video on his Tested channel where he visits one of Carbon's labs and talks to some of the engineers about their tech and other fun stuff. Definitely worth a look!
I'm really excited to see a review of the Yeezy 500! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on them!
I have this exact shoe; this colorway as well as 3 others. I originally purchased to wear to the gym, but they're so comfortable and aesthetically pleasing, I reach for them for travel shoes and walk-arounds. Best of all, I got all 4 pairs at an average of $75 when the msrp was $200.
where did you buy them ? Spill some beaaaans man
What I prefer with these, is the hold up over a year, these haven’t worn out at all. They still feel like the first week of wearing them
please do the 4DFWD shoes, its the renovation of the $D line from adidas
Could you please cut in half a pair of Zellerfelds they're also a 3D printing company but the diffrence between their footwear is that they are 100% made in a 3D printer and (supposedly) made out recylebale materials i would have been very intrested to see your dissection and review of it
Btw loving your videos ;)
I imagine that this tech won't be utilized so much in footwear, but in other areas. I think all mattresses will eventually be made out of this material. Because if it has the same level of comfort as foam, but doesn't sink in, and always springs right back, it would be like having the comfort of a memory foam mattress, with the structuralism of an innerspring mattress. But unlike an innerspring, it won't crush over time (maybe?), and it will be much more lightweight. I think the weight alone will be the selling point. Because both foam and innerspring mattresses are quite heavy and cumbersome to get a mattress cover on them. And it's a chore I absolutely hate, when I have to change the mattress protector. With this, it would be so much easier.
Latex is way better.
Amazing shoes❤😍
Oh wow, my request actually gained enough traction to warrant a video, super happy to see this.
As for the structure being all the way through, that one could have easily been figured out by a quick glance through the midsole, as light does leak through.
And for their performance, it's hard to describe, I believe numbers alone don't do them justice. For me it's not just about responsiveness but consistency and durability. And they REALLY stand the test of time. I don't know about Ultraboost, but I do know Cloudfoam compresses after some time, and does not feel as bouncy as when you first get it. With Fusio I don't feel like that ever becomes a problem.
Just got my new wallet. I love it and think the imperfection adds character
Oh bass guitar addition to soundtrack is so good
From a boost freak with over 6 boost pairs, the 4d is great. It is different, but it’s better than zoom and honestly a better everyday pair than most boost, and super durable. They look the same as the first day
I got some of those fusio's and i love them. The only thing i would change is getting half a size smaller than i have rn cause they fit me a little big
That cat looks so cool! And I agree this new 3D printing method is amazing. I hope these companies use it wisely, I hope.
i have s few pairs of the OG 4d -- and a pair of the 4DFWD. RE: 4D - if you're looking for springy bounce, look elsewhere. But if you want firm, supportive, all-day comfort, they're amazing. RE: 4DFWD - The FWD stands for 'Forward" -- and there's a propulsive springiness you can feel - especially if you've spent time in the regular 4D. It's 100% true that dirt and dust get trapped in the midsole. You could probably soak them in a shallow pan, but I've never tried it. All in all, it's great tech - and I think we'll see a lot more... as soon as someone can scale it.
first time viewer, liked the format and the cat.
The 4d midsole is noce. Got a pair thinking it be a gimmick but i love em
it was awesome concept, when you can run in the store on special treadmill and purchase shoes made specially for your feet, with required support and cushioning for you, but something gone wrong and we have one midsole for all, and it even not so comfy/sringy as foams
Aww, Toaster! 😍 Wait, what was the video about? 👀😁
I think the newesr is 4DFwd2. I always wanted to try these 3d printed midsole and i just got myself for 100usd. This video came in clutch before i get mine tomorrow
I almost bought some of these so this will be fun
Can you you do a video on the Satorisan please? Love your videos!
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You do *not* end up with a stronger, better product than with extrusion printing.
Hoffman Tactical has done extensive testing on 3d printed materials and liquid resin printed materials are consistently less durable than extruded materials.
The only benefits are layer adhesion and smoother finish.
The materials themselves are less durable by a large margin, and they are much more expensive to produce.
I would really like to see a safety toe September or SafeTOEber where the sizes of the toe boxes/roominess is compared. I’m sure a lot of them use the same steel toes but maybe not. Would like to see weight comparisons of steel vs composite and possibly a heat transfer test to see which is better in different conditions. Keen carbon fiber toe and thorogood emporer toes would be cool to see opened up too.
Have had several pairs, best so far is the ultra4fwd's-a lot more 'bounce' than the original 4D's, and the upper on the ultras is much more comfortable. 4D is nowhere as squishy underfoot as ultraboost, and feels heaver underfoot. More of a lifestyle shoe, I go with Hoka's for a run.
I don’t understand this fascination with squishy athletic shoes. It’s backwards thinking. The squishier the shoe, the lazier the muscles in the feet become. Also, injury becomes more concerning due to the instability of squishy. Yet all CZcams athletic footwear reviews measure the validity of a shoe mostly based on how squishy it is. 🙄
I bought their previous 3D printed shoes; they are alrite and have been holding up fine. Good quality. Firmer than I expected, but fine. The heal was a bit wedged up, I guess to show off the 3D printed matrix more, and I'm not sure I care for that. Price needs to come down, as I'd probably prefer to wear some of their high end foam shoes instead still, but these do have a more modern look.
Wow, the video editing has gone to a whole nother level lately.
They did that in nyc way long ago. You go into addias store they scanned your foot then made the 4d printed shoes. It costed like $1000 if i remember
Cool tech
man imagine if you could just draw a heat map of the shoe's sole and have it made just like you drew it, that would be sickkkk.
That cat is gorgeous.
You should check out the Ultra4D FWD or the 4D FWD2. Insane comfort and literally the most comfortable shoes I e ever worn in my life.
Love to see the featuring sleepy guest
Toaster's so cool
I agree, 3d printing the midsole is kinda neat, but without the customization it doesn't seem like it is really making the best use of the technology. I absolutely see a potential future, really could be done now at least to some extent, where you have a shoe store with just some samples and the equipment like treadmill for mocap, pressure plate and 3d scanner to measure various aspects of your feet and how you walk and run, then you pick an upper, customize that, and like 30-60 minutes later after all of that is fed into a computer, you have what should be the perfect shoe for you, at least as far as support and comfort are concerned.
Very informative, thanks. How's the wear test ? Does it feel good walking or running, will it help make me run faster ? :)
Can you cut apart some Allbirds? Stupid comfy but want to know what you think about the build quality and price
You should cover the Prime X Strung 2. The upper on that shoe is really unique cause it’s all fused strands and I think you could have some interesting thoughts on it. Also the stack on those shoes is super high they feel like stilts to me lol
am tempted sice thy presented the first model but tho i think that nike invincible 3 are more comfortable and gives you more extra bounce so they are nt really ready yet even if you can find it for more or less 100 euro on sale
i didn't know shoe content would be so interesting.
With Rose Anvil Builds it would be fun to get a hold of some of this Nike material, some Boost Foam and add it to a Boot. And see what happens...
I think you need to try the 4DFWD2
I’d like to quest some videos on loafers. Like weejuns and such. 😊
Love to see redwing 2408 review
Weston, when are you gonna get that Dublin leather back in stock. I bought your Claude wallet years ago from that hide and it still smells great and has nice patina
I don't think your performance tests are really able to capture the performance characteristics of this shoe. As you can see in the footage from Adam Savage that you linked, this structure rebounds at a particular angle, not evenly in all directions like a foam. The ball and bar drop tests can work to test rebound of foam, but if this material rebounds at an angle, you're only going to get a reduced percentage of rebound in a test where the impact is coming perpendicular to the material. I'm not sure how you could really adjust this sort of garage-science test to test for the angular rebound these lattices are meant to maximize, but I'd be really interested to see how they compare to foams for rebound in the angles that matter when worn.
can you try some of on clouds shoes?
btw im a big fan of ur vids
I have the 4d fwd and ultra boosts. The 4ds are unbelievably more comfortable the ultras. As far a a “bulkier” shoe the best for the price imho
Adorable cat
Seeing a future where they can make a shoe just for you really isn't a stretch, and as somebody with ridiculous archs sounds great.
Could we possibly get some different hardware options on your belts? I dont do yellow metal.
My wife is an avid runner and she started having knee problems with these shoes. Bought a pair of Hoka and she’s doing well now. Not saying hoka is better than any other shoe, just saying she stopped having bad aches and pains.
This store you imagined is a seriously sound business idea. Anyone here with the means and the will to make it will most probably prosper like crazy. If done right
This particular shoe reminds me of the Nike Airmax 97
I used to think it was over priced then you think about Jordan Retro's going for $220+ for old tech and you realize how much goes into this R&D wise and it's well worth the price by today's standards.
@RoseAnvil I’m curious to know what you think about Zellerfeld’s shoes.
u have to try the 4DFWD mate, its a way better irritation of the regular 4d, striking perfectly between firmness and squishyness.
I'd love to see you cut apart a pair of altbeg combat boots. We get them issued and I'm just curious to see how they are made and the quality of them. I have no idea how easy it is for you to get them in America but you see them nearly everywhere in the dales over here in the uk.
This would make a whole lot more sense of the shoes were bespoke to the feet of each customer. Additive manufacturing makes it pisdible for the fraction of the cost of traditionally customized shoes.
Yo Rose, can you do the Vans MTE?? They're my beater hiking shoes and are so unbelievably comfortable
2:37 Handsome Toast!!
Cool tech, I have the 4dfwd's. Doesn’t perform as well as the superfoams presently on the market or feel as comfortable or "Bouncy"
Probably will have more longevity over longer use...
I have one pair of 4DFWD and its forward spring technology is noticeable when I run. it felt like something was pushing me forward when I first ran with this shoe.
I think the truly exciting aspect of any 3d printing tech is home production.
Going to the store to have someone else do it is the antithesis of the 3d printing movement.
And home printing is the antithesis of capitalism.
@@tentimetex
So purchasing the machinery and materials is the antithesis of capitalism?
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If you own copyrights or patents that i can download the file of and print at home, it becomes difficult for you as the patent holder or copyright owner to stop me. I dont need to buy anything from you. (won't Lego have a huge problem?) @@phukyerpheefees
I just purchased a pair of Adidas Adifom Q. Any chance of you reviewing them ?
Imagine all the gunk accumulating overtime in there xD Prime housing for bacteria and insects 👍🏻
Adidas needs to make a solid outline models asap.
Got a pair of these from the adidas outlet for 60$ and cut the skirt off right away they look so much better with out it
this is the result of the hype around 3D printing a few years ago. eventually i think you’re right; parts of shoes will be printed in or near the location you buy them. But i think that will come fr either a niche space or a smaller company first. These mega companies already have the supply chain in place, there’s no need to disrupt themselves…but a new player in the game who wants to be the Build-a-bear for shoes?! hell yes