When you lay out your stringers you can figure out your stair angle based off rise/run. Same angle is used for railings. No guessing. If you have a construction master calculator you can enter the the distance (run) between posts and the stair angle (pitch) and it will spit out your finish cut (diagonal). Quick and accurate. Takes some of the pain out of installing railings.
To all the people saying other ways to do this, im sure this guys knows multiple ways to find his angles. Hes just showing a way thats more DIY friendly.
Not just diy, its faster and more certain than using a calculator and finding angles for pros as well. When measuring angles and stuff mistakes can be made and on a 20 foot run even 1 degree os notable
Curious about the toe kicks. I see some people extend them down behind the treads, and others do as you did and end them on top of the treads. What's the majority opinion there?
Leave the stair buttons on the framing square, everything you need is there if you used one to mark out stingers. mark the angles on newel posts. Measure up 34” minus cap rail, 36” IMO, is to high. Code is 34-36”
As long as it worked out at the end of the day he might have made some mistakes there's a lot of criticism here on his page but I give him double thumbs up for trying his best and doing just what we all have done in the past
Looks like he measured from stringer framing ,not top of tread he will loose 1.5” in that 36” Our code is 34-42 for hand rail And he has a 2x4 on flat I don’t know if that’s considered graspable I’ve always been curious what is considered graspable because to a large person 2x4 is fine but to a kid it’s not Code is to vague with that rule
In the final video, you can see we replaced it with a full length one. The other one was temporary so we could keep moving even though we had ordered the wrong length post.
Wouldn't the angle of railing be the same as angle of stringer? So couldn't you just hold a piece leveled vertically next to stringer and mark your angle? Then cut that angle, measure 36 from longest point and cut again... though that would depend on how railing is being affixed I guess.
You have your angle already if you used a square to layout stringers just flip the square over for your plumb cut. Also if your newels are plumb, just lay the sub rail on the nosings. Mark angle and length. Typically stair hand rail is 34” up from nosing. But can be 36”
I've never seen an entire staircase even treads and risers made from 2 by stock. Also, you didn't add the thickness of the tread, so you're railings are 1 1/2 inch below code.
There’s a easier better way lay a 2x4 down the length of stairs, make sure it’s down on all the treads, place a framing square short side down on the 2x4 , slide and mark the all the post works out just right. Don’t use red chalk
Thanks for the reply. Not sure why it's been censored tho...totally normal answer. I've never seen or used red chalk, but i will know to keep away when using on tiles/slate. Cheers.
I’m pretty sure all codes have a requirement for the handrail to be graspable, and as you noticed this handrail is not going to meet that requirement. One long 2x2 as used in the spindles could be put in for a handrail alongside the other piece there, and give the 2x2 a bit of a round over on the corners.
@@lukekaz9 yeah I can see they screwed it up and they have to replace it you wouldn't have to replace it if you left it running wild so don't give me that crap you guys don't know what the hell you're doing
Because he is .... There were three things I saw watching the video just once. That makes me an asshole ? Remember grasshopper.... Your perception of me, is a reflection of you.
@@handydandyhomes Florida State code calls for a rail that can be "grabbed" inspectors have interpreted it as a round , square rail 1 to 1 & 1\2 inch big.
I'll guarantee you if I challenge you because you've never talked back to me when I have talked to you on your channel that you'll finally talk back to me because I have so many questions to ask you
Here at Tweeker Construction we don't make sure our tape is straight before we make a 36" mark, And snap a line between 2 posts then edit the finish to show the rest of the posts and say stupid shit like 34 degree angle while blasting Flo Rida in the back
Amateur I can show you how to do it cut all your post to length put them up with your hand rail cut to length perfect fitting 100%. So easy .. that in cold weather -20°c prefab in the warm and drop it in place… 100%. Lol Btw pretty sure code is 1-1/4” nosing on stair treads.
As long as we're being critics, the code "in Calif." a 4-in ball shall not be able to pass through the railings. However there is a larger area than 4 in at the intersection of the tread and riser beneath the lower part of the railing. Code violation
@@lukekaz9 actually I've seen people called out by the building inspector on it, here in California. Actually it has to do with a baby's head not being able to protrude through at any point.
When you lay out your stringers you can figure out your stair angle based off rise/run. Same angle is used for railings. No guessing. If you have a construction master calculator you can enter the the distance (run) between posts and the stair angle (pitch) and it will spit out your finish cut (diagonal). Quick and accurate. Takes some of the pain out of installing railings.
I was gonna say this exact thing. Million ways to skin a cat but yeah. Calculator all the way
🚨 IF…. You have a “construction master calculator” 35 years building decks and framing additions and I don’t have one. 👊🏼
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That’s cool, you can always buy one 😂. Some of the best framers I’ve ever seen use it 🤷🏼♂️, check it out
Great method and your work looks sturdy ! Turn down the music a little 👍✊
To all the people saying other ways to do this, im sure this guys knows multiple ways to find his angles. Hes just showing a way thats more DIY friendly.
Not just diy, its faster and more certain than using a calculator and finding angles for pros as well. When measuring angles and stuff mistakes can be made and on a 20 foot run even 1 degree os notable
Curious about the toe kicks. I see some people extend them down behind the treads, and others do as you did and end them on top of the treads. What's the majority opinion there?
42” here
middle post was definitely run wild
😭😂😂😂 I love when people are making a video and have clearly made a flub up and cover it up by saying “that’s temporary” 😂😂😂😂
Nice work!
Leave the stair buttons on the framing square, everything you need is there if you used one to mark out stingers. mark the angles on newel posts. Measure up 34” minus cap rail, 36” IMO, is to high. Code is 34-36”
Please don’t show our secrets…. Btw put all the post up first and then snap them all out
99 bottles of beer on the wall, ninety-nine bottles of beer. You take one down and you pass it around 98 bottles of beer on the wall
Good job 👍
As long as it worked out at the end of the day he might have made some mistakes there's a lot of criticism here on his page but I give him double thumbs up for trying his best and doing just what we all have done in the past
Looks like he measured from stringer framing ,not top of tread he will loose 1.5” in that 36”
Our code is 34-42 for hand rail
And he has a 2x4 on flat I don’t know if that’s considered graspable
I’ve always been curious what is considered graspable because to a large person 2x4 is fine but to a kid it’s not
Code is to vague with that rule
Trig can also get you everything you need. The angle, the overall length, the length of your plumb cut. And it takes about 5 mins
But how do you make te union with the flat railing without making a mistake and how do you cut the post Can you make a video please
😂 The middle post is temporary right now. 🤣
In the final video, you can see we replaced it with a full length one. The other one was temporary so we could keep moving even though we had ordered the wrong length post.
Yes it is lol
@@lukekaz9been there, done that!!
@@lukekaz9 here handrails are 36” , but the deck railing must be 42” to meet code , 4” spacing between pickets 👍🇨🇦
That's strange here in America we have to be 5 in on the center for pickets at least on Gates anyway. We can go shorter but no longer than 5 in
Wouldn't the angle of railing be the same as angle of stringer? So couldn't you just hold a piece leveled vertically next to stringer and mark your angle? Then cut that angle, measure 36 from longest point and cut again... though that would depend on how railing is being affixed I guess.
You have your angle already if you used a square to layout stringers just flip the square over for your plumb cut. Also if your newels are plumb, just lay the sub rail on the nosings. Mark angle and length. Typically stair hand rail is 34” up from nosing. But can be 36”
I've never seen an entire staircase even treads and risers made from 2 by stock. Also, you didn't add the thickness of the tread, so you're railings are 1 1/2 inch below code.
They add the 2x cap...back up to 36" my dude 😃
Treated 2x is the cheapest and longest lasting option, albeit not the best looking. And the top rail brings it back to 36”
5 quarter below grade
If the guard rail is also your hand rail code here is 34"-38"
That fence in the back should be the next thing that's going to go
The short guy put that one in
@@mydogatemyhomework3768 😂
Per code your rails have to be on the first step of your stairs.
There’s a easier better way lay a 2x4 down the length of stairs, make sure it’s down on all the treads, place a framing square short side down on the 2x4 , slide and mark the all the post works out just right.
Don’t use red chalk
What with not using red chalk?
Red chalk is permanent.
You can get it off , it’ll be there for years
Thanks for the reply. Not sure why it's been censored tho...totally normal answer.
I've never seen or used red chalk, but i will know to keep away when using on tiles/slate. Cheers.
Only roofers use red chalk....
@@williamrecord9562 I've also seen lots of comments saying not to use red on roofs also.
Thanks for the video nice work
Most circular saws won't cut through a 4x4 at full depth. Are you using some monster sized skil saw?
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The measuring tape was not straight. How you gonna get a perfect measure?
Oops we put a post in the midsole a little to low now it’s just temporary lol yeah right nice try
No graspability code in your area?
I’m pretty sure all codes have a requirement for the handrail to be graspable, and as you noticed this handrail is not going to meet that requirement. One long 2x2 as used in the spindles could be put in for a handrail alongside the other piece there, and give the 2x2 a bit of a round over on the corners.
Hack n slash incorporated
My ass that middle post is a temp. Lol
Total hack amateurs LMFAO 😂😂😂😂
Yeah you know why it's temporary because they screwed it up he says he let them run wild but obviously not
In the final video, you can see the post was replaced with a full length one 👍
@@lukekaz9 yeah I can see they screwed it up and they have to replace it you wouldn't have to replace it if you left it running wild so don't give me that crap you guys don't know what the hell you're doing
@@lukekaz9 not only that in New England the handrail height is 42 in
Glad his tape was straight on that bottom riser. 😂😂😂
Theres the comment I was looking for......🤣🤣🤣
Had a slight twist which will do very little for that type of work. No issue
@@POLOLOUS3 that slight twist will throw the measurement off 1/4 inch. An asshole inspector will fail on it
I love this guy's attitude, but I already know there will still be that a** hole telling him he's doing it wrong.
He's totally doing it wrong LOL. Sr. asshole here 45+yrs framing and teaching framing. There are much better ways to get to the endline.
Because he is .... There were three things I saw watching the video just once.
That makes me an asshole ?
Remember grasshopper.... Your perception of me, is a reflection of you.
Super cool build 🤘🤘🤘. Hey you may like the #picketmastertool for your next build..
That’s a lot of unfortunately’s lol
No grab rail ?
Your guard rail can be the grab rail also.
@@handydandyhomes Florida State code calls for a rail that can be "grabbed" inspectors have interpreted it as a round , square rail 1 to 1 & 1\2 inch big.
No big deal tho I’ve made every mistake possible
I'll guarantee you if I challenge you because you've never talked back to me when I have talked to you on your channel that you'll finally talk back to me because I have so many questions to ask you
Here at Tweeker Construction we don't make sure our tape is straight before we make a 36" mark, And snap a line between 2 posts then edit the finish to show the rest of the posts and say stupid shit like 34 degree angle while blasting Flo Rida in the back
And make sure the snapping of the line spews chalk dust onto the post that was installed too short.
Could have just talked in the video without the dumb background music.
Amateur I can show you how to do it cut all your post to length put them up with your hand rail cut to length perfect fitting 100%.
So easy .. that in cold weather -20°c prefab in the warm and drop it in place… 100%. Lol
Btw pretty sure code is 1-1/4” nosing on stair treads.
Those that can't teach
And can’t do that either
Hahaha
As long as we're being critics, the code "in Calif." a 4-in ball shall not be able to pass through the railings. However there is a larger area than 4 in at the intersection of the tread and riser beneath the lower part of the railing. Code violation
In Oregon that is a specific place they allow for a 6 inch sphere. I bet it’s the same in California.
@@lukekaz9 actually I've seen people called out by the building inspector on it, here in California. Actually it has to do with a baby's head not being able to protrude through at any point.
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Unfortunately!!!!!
Cant even hold a tape straight up bend and shit