Knipex Twin Grips - Do you need them? What if you have the Cobras or Pliers Wrench? .... Maybe?
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- My review for the Knipex Twin Grips aka Slip Joint pliers. Part 82-01-200 or 82-02-200. My review is based off a question from a subscriber QuisePlays420 where he asked, "If I already have the Cobras and Pliers Wrench, is the Twin Grips something worth buying?"
I show the differences... but the answer (as with all tools) really depends on what you do, and how often you find yourself in the situations I mention in the video.
Hope the review is useful. If you have any questions please post them below. Thanks for watching!
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I'm an auto mechanic. I've got the pliers wrench, the cobra, the twin grip, and a whole bunch of other pliers. They all have their uses and they're all needed!
👍👍… thanks for sharing your thoughts. Agree 💯
I haven’t used them much but as the saying goes- “Better to have, and not need, than to need, and not have.” Plus they are affordably priced.
I’m kinda the same way. I don’t use them near as often as other tools, but when I need what they do… they are nice.
Some people would use them more than me, and some less. Just depends on what you do.
Thanks for sharing!
I love the twin grips. I'm an electrician and the ability to remove a stripped out fixture screw quickly is important. They are killer for that job. Great video
I didn’t mention fixture screws, but you are right. Stripped screws have been probably the best use for it and I have used it on fixture screws a time or two as well.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have found the very useful too !
Well thought out, helpful video.Your demonstrations are clear and useful. Thank you.
Thanks I really appreciate you taking the time to give feedback 👍
I’m en electrician. I don’t use these often. But screws that have been mangled are a pain without them. I use these boys for the screw extraction more than anything. Love ‘em.
Yeah they are my “go to” for that… you get into some cheap fixture screws pretty often… or some old flat heads.
Appreciate your thoughts 👍
Best review I have seen of these, and convinced me to buy them. Appreciate it.
You are welcome… and I appreciate the kind words 👍👍
I have only used them a handful of times since I bought them earlier in the year. The times have used them they were invaluable. I was removing fasteners that were mangled or broken every time and these worked better than my vampliers, mostly due to the reach and leverage they afford. Great tool when it is needed and great review.
Same here… they aren’t an everyday tool, but I am really glad I bought them. When you need them you will never be mad at the price you paid.
Thanks for the feedback and your thoughts 👍
Great video! Showing that model was a great addition that really drove the point home. I'm liking this channel.
Appreciate it… thanks for watching 👍👍
Awesome video!! I absolutely love my Knipex twin grips. They have helped me out in so many ways. I know there are similar tools out there but Knipex in my opinion are best of the best. Great review and a must have tool to own.
Thanks. I am a big Knipex fan and have only been using them over the last year or so.
The teeth on Knipex (Cobras & Twin Grips) are amazing. I don’t know that I have used a Pipe Wrench since I started using them.
Great review and examples where they are useful! I have found them very handy already
Appreciate that 👍
I think they are both definitely worth having.
So, I love my Twin Grips. They are an amazing and versatile tool. One thing -- people in the comments recommending Vampliers to you -- it is worth noting that Vampliers sells rebadged versions of tools made by the Japanese company called “Engineer.”
Any model of Vampliers can also be found in the Engineer version, and often the Engineer-badged tools are half the price of their Vampliers counterparts in the US. However, Engineer tools don’t carry as strong a warranty, nor is customer support in the US for Engineer, so if that matters to you, consider the Vampliers.
One particular model worth checking out is the Engineer Screw Removal Locking Pliers (PZ-64). It also has the vertical end-on teeth to grip like the Twin Grip does on a bolt head or screw shank nose-on, but also has the locking function of a vice grip, in a very small package.
Thank you, I will check those out. The vice grip type feature would be nice.
I only like the warranty when I buy a tool because it at least usually says the company intends for it to last. However, I almost never warranty anything like hand tools. if I spend hours trying to replace them (going to post office, filling out forms, etc), I am better off to work those hours and buy another set.
Thanks again for the suggestion and taking the time to do it 👍
Really liking your vids! Especially because I work as a maintenance tech and need to carry a wide array of tools. I’ve been debating about pulling the trigger on the TPLC for my most used/everyday tools bag.
Thank you.. I know what you mean. I always wonder how much easier life may be if I specialized in one thing.
I like it. I had the TPXL and it was too big, plus didn’t have the outside pockets like the LC.
I really liked my TP4B too though.
I got my cobra after seeing the hospital plumber working with them it pretty much the only tool he carried. I have nerve issues and the cobra helps with my grip if I need to use my left hand, it’s like a third hand . Great tool. I might look into getting the twin grip. I’ve had a couple times this past week I made do with another tool to get a rusty screw out. Great channel.
Appreciate it 👍
Yeah the Cobras are the best tongue and groove (what I call channel locks) I have ever used. I always tell people to just try a pair…
The twin grips have got me out of a few jams. I hope they eventually make a smaller pair too.
I fell in love with Knipex last year. I have numerous sizes of the pliers wrench, including some huge ones. I bought the Cutix knife, then bought another. I just purchased these twin grips and have been waiting for them to show up. Just love the quality of the Knipex tools.
Same here. They aren’t real well known in my area, but everyone who works around me is converting 😂
Great video sir. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinion. Much appreciated.
Your welcome. Thanks for taking the time to thank me 😂
I carry a set of twin grips in my MP1, my first line during my day as a facilities tech. Super convenient and useful. Can tear a fastener or nut up depending, so have been eyeing adding a smaller set of pliers wrench as well. Highly recommend the twin grips.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Always helpful to hear from a multitude of people in different lines of work.
I have 10” and 7-1/4” Pliers Wrenches & Cobras and I rarely get out the 10’s. The 7-1/4” open up to a pretty good size.
Thanks again for watching!
Good video Morgan, I’ll have to get a pair of these twin grips. I have used the Plier wrench for tube fittings and they work great. I use the knipex mini bolt cutters for cutting tig wire and they are awesome. I’ve cut stainless , chrome and inconel wire with no issues. You can’t go wrong with any knipex product.
110% agree on Knipex and those bolt cutters are on my short list. Thanks for sharing how they work for you.
Thank you for the review Morgan,thanks for your thoughts .think imma grab me a pair in the comfort grips (I like them best of all the handles knipex has)
The price on Amazon is lower than what I payed at the moment. I’m not sure if they are on sale everywhere else but I think I paid $60 for mine.
They aren’t an every day user for me, but one of those tools I’m glad I have. I think you bought them in the right order. I would get the Cobras and Pliers Wrench over these if I didn’t have them, then pick these up, then the Raptors.
The Raptors similar to these are situational and it depends on what you do.
I like the comfort grips as well, I just prefer the slimmer handles. I wouldn’t turn down any of them 😂.
I got Knipex Twin Grip pliers today and I think they will be great. I've already decided that when the 250 comes out I'll be getting them too. Thanks and cheers :-)
Yeah I have found myself using them more often than I thought… I think they are definitely worth having.
Appreciate it 👍👍
I don’t use my twin grips that often but I’m glad that I have them nonetheless. There’s nothing worse than being caught in the middle of a job and rifling through your tool arsenal only to find that you don’t have the tool you need to do the job. They serve a more specific purpose but when you need to be able to get into a tight workspace and remove a stripped or cammed out fastener, there’s no better substitute that I’ve found!
Agree with this 100% 👍👍
They have been used enough that I would gladly pay the $30 for them..
Love the review and I think I might pick some of these up. I have some vampliers, so I didn't think I'd need them, but I didn't consider how wide these spread. I could definitely have used them under the sink in the past.
You could carry a wera zyclop instead of a standard ratchet to get deeper into an area with sockets. That's what I do with my car toolkit.
Thanks. I have found these to be pretty useful and they aren’t a bad price for Knipex pliers.
I have that WERA in my Amazon list… looks like a pretty cool tool.
Thanks again 👍
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Excellent explanation.
Thank you 👍
Great video,I got one recently besides what you mentioned I would use it in lieu of the combination pliers.
Thank you. I have used mine as a screw extractor just this week, but you are right… they are also a great pair of plies. 👍
Great video, I love the knipex twingrip pliers, I actually have both handle versions. Maybe they will consider to make a little one, maybe even xs size. I also have all the cobra sizes from xs to XXL, and the plier wrenches. Great tools,but the cobra pliers are the most used in any situations. 👍👍👍
Agree 100% on the Cobras… I would like a smaller set of Twin Grips too 👍
Great video and explanations. I love the twingrip pliers. They are screw extraction tools, like the vampliers. They are not opening as wide like the cobra pliers, but they have good leverage for grabbing screw heads. The adjustable joint is a very good addition and keep the jaws more parallel, providing a better grip on larger screws. I have both handle versions. I use them almost every day. Great design and durability.
They are a nice tool to have…
Appreciate you watching 👍
I have a pair of Japanese made Vampliers in both my go bag and MCT. Little smaller profile and same design so I haven’t really had the need to plunk down for these. Maybe I’ll throw them on the Christmas list and my family can “surprise” me.
Several people have been mentioning those. I have heard of them and seen them online, but never held a pair in my hands. I will check those out. May get a smaller pair for tighter spaces.
I have bought a couple Vessel Screwdrivers in the past few months. I think those are the only Japanese made tools I have… that I know of.
They’re worth having was able to get something with the twin grips that I couldn’t with needle nose
@@TheCherokeeKidd agree.. not an everyday tool for me, but a glad I have them tool 👍
I'm going to get a pair of these for sure, I carry a 6" Vampliers (Smaller and Lighter) in my side pants pocket everywhere I go and they are probably one of my most used tools. Plus they cut wire. I wrapped hockey tape around to handles so they don't slip out of my pocket when sitting down,
I’ve never had a pair of Vampliers but I have heard pretty good things about them. I think they are very similar to these.
I might venture into Vamplier tool land and check them out.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Same thing but smaller and lighter. I still want these Knipex for bigger fasteners.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I believe the original tools were/are made in Japan under the Engineer name. Chris Cas's channel has lots of reviews on Japanese tools (he's an auto mechanic) you might find interesting.
@@thomasbrown9402 Thanks. I will check that out. I like channel suggestions almost as much as tool suggestions 😂
I use them often enough that it was a well investment for me as is just about every pair of Knipex pliers I've gotten
Feel the same way 👍👍
I have them and love them , don’t use them all the time but when you need them they’ll pay for them selves in one time .
I feel the exact same about them 👍
Snap-on makes pistol grip pliers that have that same forward facing teeth set up, and there's a practically identical clone at Harbor Freight that you can get for $14-20. The benefit of the pistol grip is that you can get closer to the kind of torque you would get if everything was rotated 90° like a normal set of pliers turning a fastener in a more typical environment. If you already have the Knipex pliers wrench and cobras it is a no-brainer to also pick up the Harbor Freight pliers for how little they cost compared to the twin grips, especially if you're not going to use them nearly as much.
I just picked those up… ICON "Pistol Grip" Long Reach Pliers - Cheaper Option than Snap-On #tools #harborfreight #snapon
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They are good to have, but the Twin Grips fit in a bag better. That makes them a little more useable for me, but in my garage they are a great pickup.
Thanks for the suggestion 👍
As a marine tech the twin grips will come in handy no doubt, you can bet your life on it. Just not sure if the comfort grip will be better or not yet.
I always prefer the regular grips… but it’s just a personal preference for me. I don’t like bulky handles
You don't need them that often. But if you need them and you don't have it, it's really frustrating. I recommend that you buy it today especially if it's your trade. Btw I also have the Engineer PZ-58 which works better for smaller fasteners.
Agree… and thanks for the Engineer Suggestion 👍👍
That bag’s been calling to me for a while ! T like the Twingrip a great deal ! ( I also have Cobras and Plierwrenches ! I combine my TwinGrips with a pair of Engineer’s pliers , for smaller stuff .
It has been useful in many situations. I don’t use it everyday… but I’m glad I have them.
Are the engineers the ones that are similar to Vampliers?
@@MORGANSMaintenance Engineer’s are basically the same as Vampliers , prolly made in the same plant ! They will deal wit smaller screws .
@@chrisfyfe9212 I’ve had a PZ58 version in my wish list for awhile but I want a pair smaller than the twin grips… do you know the model number on yours.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Not sure anymore , off the cuff ! I’ll check in the morning !
@@MORGANSMaintenance PZ-60 , “ Needle Nose” , good for small stuff !
Can these grip on to 1/2” black iron pipe? I deal with pipe, nuts & bolts, and stripped out screws in really tight corners all the time. This video is the best practical review on this tool so far.
I didn’t have any 1/2 in my garage but had some 3/4.. gripes onto them at the max setting but the handles are a bit apart, depends on how big your hands are.
I did have some 1/2 EMT and it fits well on those. (Handles still spread, but manageable) I would assume 1/2 black iron would be somewhere in between the two moving closer to the EMT.
Cobras are more comfortable because they spread to more sizes keeping your handle not spread so far apart. In the event you couldn’t use a Cobra due to access, I think you could go these.
Hope that makes sense and helps.
Thanks for the compliment 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance -I’m late as hell realizing you responded. Thank you for replying. I have cobras & pliers wrench. They don’t work in ultra tight enclosures. I bought twin grips anyway. Hopefully for something else besides pulling striped screws.🤞🏾
Your welcome.
I kinda carry them as my 2nd pair of Cobras in my service bag but I typically run into smaller stuff (carry the 7-1/4 Cobras) That way if I need to hold back on something I can use them for that, and I also have them for a stripped screw.
They aren’t an everyday use for me, but Im glad I have them.
Nice explanation😁
Appreciate it 👍👍
they are awesome 👌
I haven’t run into a damaged screw they couldn’t get out for me yet…but the work great as just pliers too.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
Buy a set of Twin Grips....just get them - do it now!
If, FOR NOTHING ELSE, those corroded, slotted screws on the bottom of old breaker panels that have ~2-3" of gecko crap & bug carcasses that have been accumulating since the Reagan Administration. It makes getting that screw out MUCH easier.
It's also great for 100 other things.
Agree 100%… primarily crappy screws is what I have used them for, but you can use them for much more..
And surprisingly for Knipex, they aren’t priced that bad.
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I can see using those quite a bit in the HVAC trade.
They are pretty useful at times. I don’t use them as often as the cobras… but I would buy them in a heartbeat.
I have all of them and use all constantly. Just get them all in the size you need.
Same here…
Thanks for watching 👍
I use twin grips everyday on my job. So mant stripped and rusted out screws on the lighting fixtures i come across.
Yeah screws that come with light fixtures aren’t great to begin with… you add old and rusty to the mix (and slotted 😂) they can be no fun.
Very informative and insightful video !
Thanks so much… 👍
Im a heavy-duty mechanic, and the twin grips crap on my snap on slip joint pliers. I use them to extract screws for interiors and lights, and when I need something with grip. They are also awesome for removing lock washers, springs, clips, and hose clamps. Knipex really beat snap on, channel lock, and other tool truck brands when it comes to pliers
I don’t have any Snap On… but they beat all my other pliers I’ve used in the past…
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and what you do… helps others make a good decision 👍
Morgans's props department is growing bigger and better.
I thought about buying one of those, but in fact I really don't need them. I have like 8 or 10 tools that to the same job. Starting from different kind of spanners, through pliers to regular sockets. If I need to replace couple of these tools with something less subtle but more versatile, I'd surly buy that Knipex.
Very informative video. And as always with not trace of BS. Keep up the good job.
Thanks. I am the same way with other tools. I can get by without it by using multiple other tools if I need to. It is mostly helpful as a space saver in my bag since it takes care of multiple sizes.
It does a good job and a great tool if you are looking for something that does what it does… and it’s Knipex, so you can’t hardly go wrong!
On the props… I’m putting all these big bucks I’m making back into the channel 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance That's the worst thing with Knipex - there's always more reasons to buy them then not.
I have vampliers for this. They complement my cobras with no double duty overlap. Like a linemans screw extractor
Several People have recommended those to me, I didn’t have those already so I went with these.
I mostly use for screw extraction but every now and then the “non angled” cobra feature comes in handy.
I need a smaller pair of extractors though, may get a Engineer or Vamplier for those.
@@MORGANSMaintenance engineer and vampliers are amazing. Surprising for their size
What is a good model number for some Engineer or Vamplier that would be smaller than the Twin Grips?
@@MORGANSMaintenance the engineers are smaller. They have the same size in vampliers too. The vampliers i links is like a euro linesman size
D@mn!t, you made me buy these while the video is playing! 😂
😂… you will like them, I haven’t met anyone yet that hasn’t.
I haven’t looked to see if they had went up like everything else, but they were priced fairly well too for their size.
If you could just pick 1 wich one would it be???
I use my Cobras more often, just because it’s a more comfortable angle for what you use them for… I mostly use these for bad screws
Why is the knipex water pump pliers teeth 🦷 on top and bottom jaws so shallow compared to Klein or Milwaukee? I have many knipex pliers, wrench, strippers needle nose, tools and the chrome pump pliers 10 inch were damaged servicing a gas line in a residential furnace. If you look at the top section of the teeth you will see that any amount of force can crush the teeth. I did get them replaced under warranty. I had to pay shipping.
That’s good to know on the warranty… I haven’t paid any attention to it. I don’t have any Kleins but I have some Milwaukee ones I will have to check out. I don’t have any chrome ones either… not that it should make a difference, but I wonder if it does 🤔
@@MORGANSMaintenance the 87 05 250 comfort grip cobras are the ones I had issues with. If I was able to post pictures on here I would send you the pictures I sent Knipex.
@@amazinggrace831I believe you… I’m going to check the teeth on mine in the morning. I’ve never really LOOKED at them. I haven’t had any of mine get damaged yet. I am a little curious now though if other people have had similar issues and if they are Chrome… I don’t get chrome ones just for a looks preference.. Hopefully some other people will comment here.
@@MORGANSMaintenance yea check them out. I go through both of my Veto bags 2X a month and service all my tools, wire brush, wipe down and lubricant so I notice things like that. It was disappointing. Knipex has beautiful tools but for them to have weak teeth that flatten out and decrease the gripping is not good. I only had them for a couple of months and I was working residential HVAC.
Hey Morgan, what are your thoughts on the pliers wrench in the chrome and black finish and which do you have?
I have a set of 10” and 7-1/4” in the Black and a 6” in the Chrome. I got the 6” in Chrome because the guy at Rexel gave me a deal on them and that’s all they had.
As far as function there isn’t any difference. I typically like the Black finish but it’s because I’m OCD about my tools. I just like the look of the Black and I’ve always found Chrome finish tools (especially with Teeth) scratch and look bad easier. I know it’s silly for something you work with 😂… but it’s just a reason I choose the Black.
I think the Black ones do have a tendency to rust easier if you live somewhere or your type of primary work is prone to that. (plumbing, outside, etc)
@@MORGANSMaintenance awesome info, I like the black as well, it’s not like it’s going to rust the tool down to nothing, so I’ll take your word on that and grab likely the 7.25 ones first.
@@matthewnowak3488 Those are what I use the most. They open extremely wide and grip so well that it is all I normally need. Most people go with the 10’s first but I find I don’t use them as often. Just depends on what you do.
I carry the 7-1/4 & 6 along with a small adjustable wrench in my TP-LC. That way I can hold back on something if I need to. Then I keep all my 10” in my MCT.
@@MORGANSMaintenance that’s great info brother, I will use it to build out that bag as well. 7.25 it is!
I think I'm up to four pairs of these - a mix of dipped and comfort grip. I'd buy one pair of 1000v if (when?) they introduce those. I bobbed one of mine to roughly 6.25" (165mm). I posted a quick video here: czcams.com/video/mU_MdXHQSQk/video.html How valuable these are depends on what you do and what you need most often. Plumbers probably would find Cobras more useful but for most of the rest of us I bet these are more useful (YMMV). If I could only have one pair of pliers, it would probably be these.
These beat heck out of regular slip-joints. They are more useful to me that Vampliers/Engineer pliers for both general use and most screw problems. The jaws are amazingly powerful/gripping. They're not that expensive, especially the dipped handle version. I don't think they replace Cobras, which have more capacity (depending on size) or the Pliers-Wrench (no-marring for fasteners and also sometimes irreplaceable for flattening bent sheet metal).
Great video, keep up the great work.
I was just talking to someone about how I wished they would make a smaller version of these as well… I prefer the 7-1/4 cobras and pliers wrenches for most things, and a shorter/smaller version of these wouldn’t hurt my feelings.
Like you I am surprised by the price on these. Pretty affordable in their lineup
Thanks for sharing your video.
Cobras and twin grips come out after things go south, don't use them on good fasteners
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Boy though tools are so clean are they new or you don't use your tools
I get the question enough I made a video I am a CZcams SCAMMER! / Your tools are TOO CLEAN! / Why don't you USE them! My PERSPECTIVE!
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Do you also have the Raptor Pliers? If so, what is your opinion about them?
Yeah I have those too. They do what they say and they do it well… But I don’t find myself needing them near as often as Cobras, Pliers Wrench, or Twin Grips.
They are more of a nice to have pair of pliers for me… they make some things a little easier, but not in a required way if that makes since. I often use them as my “hold back” set of pliers.
I feel a mechanic, or maybe a full time plumber would get more use out of them. For me and my frequency of use, they would be the last set of this bunch I would buy.
I feel like the question is now, if you have the twin grips do you need the cobras?
True.. I think for higher torque you might need the head angled from your handles. To me it seems I can get more leverage with the cobras(that could just be my opinion)… but my guess is I could probably use the twin grips for 85% of the stuff I use my cobras for.
kinda like a copy vamplier
Similar I think. People have been mentioning them but I’ve never had a pair of them to compare them.
Everyone is speaking highly of them though.
The slip joint and the curvature of the jaws is what sets them apart. The slip joint gives you more flexibility in sizes, better contact onto fasteners and the ability to grip onto the handles without them being spread apart to far for better handling and torque.
Ill never give mine up
👍. The more I use them I feel the same
😂😂 kih-nepex wtf stopped taking it seriously at that point
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All Germanic languages except English pronounce both the k and the n that way. It used to be pronounced that way in English too (k-nife, k-night) but it became silent later on