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Komentáře • 444

  • @iamadooddood4331
    @iamadooddood4331 Před 3 lety +40

    For the second problem, if a, b and c are in arithmetic progression then their arithmetic mean is b. As their geometric mean is b+2, by the AM-GM inequality there arises a contradiction. There's no such issue with the first problem because in that case their geometric mean is b and their arithmetic mean is b+2, which does not contradict the AM-GM inequality.

  • @wospy1091
    @wospy1091 Před 3 lety +72

    This is one of those confusing videos where I skip to the end to make sure I got the right answer but he's solving a different problem at the end.

    • @siddharthnikhil744
      @siddharthnikhil744 Před 3 lety +2

      Lmao

    • @pizzamidhead2183
      @pizzamidhead2183 Před 2 lety +12

      this is one of those confusing videos where i skip to the end to make sure i got the right answer but he's climbing a f*cking mountain

  • @martothelfriky
    @martothelfriky Před 3 lety +11

    For the variant problem, one can frame it in terms of b instead. Since (a,b,c) = (b-k,b,b+k) then the geometric mean condition is equivalent to b^3 -k^2b = (b+2)^3 i.e. -k^2b = (b+2)^3 -b^3. Since b is a natural number then LHS is strictly negative and RHS is strictly positive. Therefore it has no solution.

  • @ElPibePi
    @ElPibePi Před 3 lety +26

    7:45
    a * ( 2 * n^2 - n )^1/3 = n * a + 2
    [( 2 * n^2 - n )^1/3 - n ] * a = 2
    As "a" is a natural number, "a" must be or 2 or 1 and [(2*n^2-n)^1/3-1] must be 1 or 2.
    Case 1:
    ( 2 * n^2 - n )^1/3 - n = 1
    2 * n^2 - n = (1 + n )^3
    2 * n^2 - n = n^3 + 3 * n^2 + 3 * n + 1
    n^3 + n^2 + 4 * n + 1 = 0
    n ≈ - 0.2627
    Case 2:
    ( 2 * n^2 - n )^1/3 - n = 2
    2 * n^2 - n = (2 + n )^3
    2 * n^2 - n = n^3 + 6 * n^2 + 12 * n + 8
    n^3 + 4* n^2 + 13 * n + 8 = 0
    n ≈ - 0.759
    In both cases, n can't be expressed as a ratio of two natural numbers, so it's no doable.
    And that's a good place to stop.
    Cheers from Argentina, Michael!

    • @aradhya_purohit
      @aradhya_purohit Před 3 lety

      I would have liked it better if you would have italicised that

  • @yahav897
    @yahav897 Před 3 lety

    I enjoyed this video!! Thanks Michael!!

  • @tomatrix7525
    @tomatrix7525 Před 3 lety +7

    This will absolutely blow up. Well presented solutions to these JEEs are highly popular

  • @soumitrapharikal5503
    @soumitrapharikal5503 Před 3 lety +67

    00:07
    JEE Advance Exam is the entrance exam to get into India's Most Renowned Engineering Institutes, called the IITs (Indian Institute of Technology). Every year lakhs of students appear for this exam, and aspire to get a seat in IIT, it is one of the toughest examinations in the world, given by High School Students. IITs offer various courses for Engineering Discipline, such as Computer Science, Metallurgy etc.
    It consists of mainly 3 sections, Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics and conducted in 2 shifts of 3hr each, each year the Exam Pattern and format changes. The Screening exam of JEE Mains must be cleared to appear for JEE Advance, which over a million students appear for each year.

    • @targetiitbcse1761
      @targetiitbcse1761 Před 3 lety +4

      thanks for informing saumitra!

    • @srijanbhowmick9570
      @srijanbhowmick9570 Před 3 lety

      @@targetiitbcse1761 What's your nationality ?

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +7

      Thanks for copying from Wikipedia. We totally do not have access to it and couldn’t have searched it ourselves

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +3

      Anyway, it’s a joke don’t be offended lol

    • @targetiitbcse1761
      @targetiitbcse1761 Před 3 lety

      @@srijanbhowmick9570 Indian, it was a sarcastic reply

  • @KirbyTheKirb
    @KirbyTheKirb Před 3 lety

    My favourite channel that I found in 2020. Amazing content Michael. Even though I´m not nearly competent enough to do these questions I want to learn, and you going through the questions is very useful!

  • @shubhamvishwakarma8309
    @shubhamvishwakarma8309 Před 3 lety +55

    Many unacademy students also watching this!!
    Seems like channel is more popular in🇮🇳 than 🇺🇸 :0)

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 Před 3 lety +113

    7:58 JEE? Oh boy, this video is gonna have a lot of views

    • @TechToppers
      @TechToppers Před 3 lety +15

      Yup! These problems are way easier and approachable than olympiads. This is what I think.

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +3

      @@TechToppers agreed

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +6

      These don’t require much creativity as well

    • @ribhuhooja3137
      @ribhuhooja3137 Před 3 lety +23

      @@random-td7tf They _can't_ . Because each olympiad problem has something like half an hour (at least) to solve them, while each JEE problem has something like 2 minutes.

    • @lionking2192
      @lionking2192 Před 3 lety +4

      @@random-td7tf ya... but there are better questions in this JEE exam than that shown in video......

  • @urekah37
    @urekah37 Před 3 lety

    Im so glad this channel came across my recommendation.

  • @AnkhArcRod
    @AnkhArcRod Před 3 lety +47

    I think INMO and RMO problems are more aligned to the kind of competitive examination content that you usually show. JEE exam is meant for placement in undergraduate institutes in India. It comes in two stages: JEE main and JEE advanced. JEE advanced score is required for joining IITs. JEE exam is brutal because the expectation is to solve these problems in a minute or two at most.

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +3

      Exactly !

    • @ritam8767
      @ritam8767 Před 3 lety +7

      Not a minute or two, there are 54 questions and 3hrs. So a little more than 3 min. Plus chemistry takes less than 90 sec usually, so you can put more time into math. But still, it's really challenging.
      JEE aspirant myself.

    • @shivam5105
      @shivam5105 Před 3 lety +7

      The CMI and ISI entrance examinations also have interesting problems especially in the subjective sections

    • @lgooch
      @lgooch Před 2 lety

      i solved this in around 2 minutes so im guessing this is one of the more easy problems in the exam.

    • @Nothingtonnobodson
      @Nothingtonnobodson Před 2 lety

      @@lgooch it is meant to be solved in this amount of time as other problems are much harder

  • @ankitkumaryadav8119
    @ankitkumaryadav8119 Před 3 lety

    You explain very nicely.

  • @wilderuhl3450
    @wilderuhl3450 Před 3 lety

    Well, m must be larger than n, but m = (2n^2-n)^(1/3). If we divide m/n and evaluate at n=1 then we get that m/n = 1. A bit of calculus should show that m/n is strictly decreasing as n-> +♾ . Meaning that m

  • @Herfuage
    @Herfuage Před 3 lety +4

    We have c = (2n - 1)a = 2na - a = 2b - a.
    Hence abc = ab(2b - a) = 2b²a - ba².
    The condition on geometric mean leads to abc = (b+2)^3.
    Thus we have ba² - 2b²a + (b+2)^3 = 0 which is a quadratic equation in a.
    On can compute the discriminant and find -8b(3b² + 6b + 4).
    It is strictly negative for any natural integer b, so our problem has no solution.

    • @Tiqerboy
      @Tiqerboy Před 3 lety

      That's funny. I got a = 6, b = 12 and c = 24. b/a = 2. (a+b+c)/3 = 42/3 = 14 = 12 + 2 = b + 2. Solving the expression at the bottom you get 4.

    • @Herfuage
      @Herfuage Před 3 lety

      @@Tiqerboy That's the solution for the first problem, I was answering to the second one.

  • @debayuchakraborti1963
    @debayuchakraborti1963 Před 3 lety +31

    BOOM! U just cracked the code... I'm rooting for this video to be the most viewed ever LOL

  • @random-td7tf
    @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +108

    You have found the secret way to make your channel blow up
    Just remember me when you get famous, will you ?

  • @anonymous_4276
    @anonymous_4276 Před 3 lety

    Awesome!

  • @michaeltamajong4659
    @michaeltamajong4659 Před 3 lety

    Theres this problem from Stewart multivariable calculus: given a solid box B with dimensions L, W and H. S is the set of all points which are at most 1 unit away from some point on B. The task is to find the volume of the set S in terms of L, W and H.
    We are not told if L, W or H are above or below 1. They are generalized dimensions.
    Stewart's problems plus are really interesting, especially the even number problems

  • @shivansh668
    @shivansh668 Před 3 lety +1

    Ohh Professor , so nice to see you while Rock climbing 😅👍

  • @swirleythrone7069
    @swirleythrone7069 Před 3 lety +3

    The JEE Advanced is one of the most difficult entrance exam at the +2 level. It is for entrance to prestigious engineering institutions as IIT's. It is an extremely tough exam that tests students in Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics

  • @sudhanshumishra6482
    @sudhanshumishra6482 Před 3 lety +6

    Hi Michael as much as we all love JEE questions, they are not the type of questions you usually solve, like Olympiad problems. Most jee problems usually can be solved with some clever insight which makes most of them attemptable within the 3-4 mins allotted to each question, also these problems are mostly objective based. What most of these questions lack is the rigour, which I mostly like in the Olympiad questions you solve. What is more suitable to the Olympiad level questions are the Indian Statistical Institute and Chennai mathematical institute exam. Have a look at them.
    As always love your videos. Keep making more. JEE videos will surely get you much more views😂😂 because there is a craze about it in India. The exam in itself is so hard because of the time constraints and immense competition.

  • @leonhardkost3028
    @leonhardkost3028 Před 3 lety +28

    Damn Michael, didn't even know one could climb a rock like that

    • @mikeh283
      @mikeh283 Před 3 lety

      Are you talking about the improvisational second problem or an actual rock ? 😆

    • @leonhardkost3028
      @leonhardkost3028 Před 3 lety

      @@mikeh283 An actual rock, I didn't think that metaphorically

  • @thayanithirk1784
    @thayanithirk1784 Před 3 lety +69

    This is what indian viewers like me r expecting
    Anyone from vedantu math channel after abhay mahajan sir told that JEE is introducing slight number theory because they are running sort of questions?

    • @The_Math_Enthusiast
      @The_Math_Enthusiast Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, but tougher ones.

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +1

      I am not, but ok

    • @jayantsingh3078
      @jayantsingh3078 Před 3 lety +6

      One of easier problem of JEE ADVANCE.

    • @ritam8767
      @ritam8767 Před 3 lety +1

      @@random-td7tf nah, keep making these

    • @tomatrix7525
      @tomatrix7525 Před 3 lety +8

      ‘Expecting’ makes it sound like your entitled to it. Calm down a bit... He is voluntarily making these

  • @tomatrix7525
    @tomatrix7525 Před 3 lety

    The last equation has two solutions only, Starting from the point am=na+2, which if it has a solution the other equation does. We can divide both sides by a getting m=n +2/a. Since m is a natural number and makes up the LHS, the RHS must be a natural number. Since n is a natural number, 2/a must be, making a = 1 or 2 exclusively

  • @alexrozenbom3430
    @alexrozenbom3430 Před 3 lety +1

    WHOA !!! at 7:58 That was not a good place to stop, Sir !!!!

  • @marisaelizabethleoncollant7509

    Man your great!!!!!

  • @roryburnham3223
    @roryburnham3223 Před 3 lety

    2n-1=2 otherwise a=a+2, an impossibility).
    => n(2n-1) < n^3
    => m^3 m-n=2 hence we have no solutions.

  • @estebansalgado4708
    @estebansalgado4708 Před 3 lety +3

    For the last question... when we have that am = an + 2 ... we could just take that equation (mod a) to see that 2 = 0 (mod a) and therefore a is either 1 or 2 (independent of the value of n) ... Then just evaluate if (2n^2-n) = (na+2)^3 for a in {1,2} has a natural solution, but for positive values of n, the RHS is always larger than the LHS. Therefore there is no solution.

  • @numbersstuff5926
    @numbersstuff5926 Před 3 lety

    It's quite easy problem to solve...I have solved it in a different way where I used the properties of natural numbers and perfect squares to assign values to 'a' and to find the actual answer from those assigned values respectively...Value of 'a' is 6.

  • @potato5848
    @potato5848 Před 3 lety +14

    I personally love the question from ISI Bmath/Bstat exam 2020. Paper- UGB question-P8
    The one with alternating series

  • @emilianomaccaroni2424
    @emilianomaccaroni2424 Před 3 lety +1

    Excelente video! Me hiciste acordar a Alex Honnold! 😂

  • @demenion3521
    @demenion3521 Před 3 lety

    notice that a, b and c could also be in geometric progression if a=nc and b=n²c. but then you will quickly find that there is no integer solution for n (which makes sense as in this case b>a>c such that the arithmetic mean can never be greater than b)

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 Před 3 lety

      Well spotted!
      The Q does not say that they are in GP in any particular order.

  • @akashsudhanshu5420
    @akashsudhanshu5420 Před 3 lety

    Move na on Left hand side
    Use AM>=GM on (1,(2n-1),n)
    Which shows a is -ve (assuming n to be +ve)
    You get
    a[ (n(2n-1))^(1/3) - n ] =2

  • @brotishpal2902
    @brotishpal2902 Před 3 lety +4

    It is an examination for the 12th Standard students to get into the IIts. Besides the tough question paper comprising Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics all together in one paper, the success rate is less than 1%.
    This year, 22lakh students have applied and the total number of seats is around 16000. This is what, that makes the exam even tougher and one of the toughest in the world.

    • @jyotiradityasatpathy3546
      @jyotiradityasatpathy3546 Před 3 lety

      Bro 16000 includes branches like Agriculture Engineering in barely developed IITs. For a core branch in an old IIT, you'll need a rank less than 5000

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 Před 3 lety +26

    HOMEWORK : Some combinatorics from 2015 Harvard-MIT Mathematics Tournament
    Count the number of functions f : Z → {‘green’, ‘blue’} such that f(x) = f(x + 22) for all integers x and there does *NOT* exist an integer y with f(y) = f(y + 2) = ‘green’.

    • @nontth5355
      @nontth5355 Před 3 lety

      Solution
      Ok first we really need to look for only f(1) to f(22)
      Let b(i) be a number of way we can construct f:{1,2,3,...,i} to {green,blue} such that f(i-1)=green and c(i) be a number of way we can construct function such that f(i-1)=blue
      from recurrent we can conclude that
      b(i+1)=c(i) and
      c(i+1)=b(i)+c(i)
      c(i+1)=c(i)+c(i-1)
      b(2)=2 and c(2)=2
      b(3)=2 and c(3)=4
      We can see that c(i)=2F(i) when F(i) is a fibonacci sequence
      The way we can construct a function is b(22)+c(22)=c(23)=2F(23) #
      Edit:I forgot to think about f(1)=f(22) and f(2)=f(23) so can anyone do that for me?

    • @AdityaPrabhu01
      @AdityaPrabhu01 Před 3 lety

      Edit: This is not right.f(y) and f(y+2) maybe mapped to the same blue colour as well.
      There exists no integer y such that f(y)=f(y+2)=green means that f(y) and f(y+2) must be mapped to different colours for all y. But that implies f(y+2) and f(y+4) must be of different colours and hence f(y) and f(y+4) must be of the same colour. Using this argument we can say that :
      f(y+4k) are all of the same colour for all integers k.
      And
      f(y+4k+2) are all of same colour for all integers k. That means f(y+2) and f(y+22) are of the same colur, that is different from f(y). Therefore f(y)≠f(y+22) for any integer y, but that's not possible as we are given they are equal for all integers y. Hence there exists no such function f.

    • @nontth5355
      @nontth5355 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AdityaPrabhu01 only green can't be the same you can have all f(x)=blue and it is indeed one solution

    • @goodplacetostop2973
      @goodplacetostop2973 Před 3 lety

      @@AdityaPrabhu01 f(y) = f(y+2) = blue is possible.

    • @nontth5355
      @nontth5355 Před 3 lety

      My solution is incomplete bcuz I miss some important detail but I'm sure it almost end so anyone pls do the rest for me. (I'm too lazy lol)

  • @PATRICKZWIETERING
    @PATRICKZWIETERING Před 3 lety

    It is easy to check that (2n^2-n)^(1/3)

  • @jatadharipiyush4058
    @jatadharipiyush4058 Před 3 lety

    Please upload more from these exams

  • @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself

    I used guess and check, starting with 1,2,4; 2,4,8; ... until I solved a+c=2b+6.
    a+c=6+2b also suggests a=6 and c=2b, which makes the guessing easier.

  • @zubrrr
    @zubrrr Před 3 lety

    Last equation a*m = a*n + 2, where a, m, n are natural, doesn't demand deep thought I think. Because it means that a*(m-n)=2 and it's possible only in two ways: a=1, m-n=2 or a=2, m-n=1. In every case we return to definition of m and substitute its value (n+2 or n+1 respectively). We come to polynomial with positive coefficients that means there can be only negative solutions. But n is natural, so there is no solution.

  • @vibhanarayan9668
    @vibhanarayan9668 Před 3 lety +1

    Well the answer is 4 it was a easy question
    We could directly do it by assuming the numbers as a , ar , ar^2 and their AM is ar+2 , a+ar+ar^2/3=ar+2 which results in a(1-r)^2=6 which has only one soln for a=6 and r=0,2 but as a,b,c are natural no therfore r can't be 0 hence a+14/a+1=4

  • @miro.s
    @miro.s Před 3 lety

    The end is an awesome present!

  • @kingthanatos6093
    @kingthanatos6093 Před 3 lety

    If you take am=an + 2, you can see that the LHS has a factor of a, so the RHS does as well, but since the RHS is congruent to 2 mod a, a must be 1 or 2 (for zero to be congruent to 2 mod a). We can then see that either of these cases for a give cubics in n which have strictly positive coefficients and so don’t have any positive (and hence natural) solutions so there are no valid choices for a and so the problem is self-contradictory; there are no a,b,c that satisfy the conditions so the quantity is meaningless.

  • @damiankennedy2012
    @damiankennedy2012 Před 3 lety +4

    As the first variation has no solution, may I suggest a second variation where instead of the geometric mean equaling b+2 it equals 2b.

  • @divyanshusingh3797
    @divyanshusingh3797 Před 3 lety +37

    Keep solving JEE advance problems please because the exam is coming. It will help a lot. Thank you Michael

  • @klausg1843
    @klausg1843 Před 3 lety +3

    The last part. No solution since (2•n^2 - n)< n^3 so m

    • @TJStellmach
      @TJStellmach Před 3 lety

      It wasn't obvious to me at a glance that 2n²-n

    • @wospy1091
      @wospy1091 Před 3 lety +3

      @@gregorymorse8423 the n=1 case is trivial, I don't think Klaus needed to mention it....

    • @wospy1091
      @wospy1091 Před 3 lety

      @@gregorymorse8423 I watch these videos for recreation like a lot of people do, but maybe the JEE folks around here are trying to be more rigorous.

  • @Akshay-qu3dc
    @Akshay-qu3dc Před 3 lety +7

    After spending some time on solving this. I got the values of a,b,c as 6,12,24 respectively. And they satisfy all the given parameters.
    The value of the given expression on putting a=6 will be 4.
    So the required answer is 4
    Edit: I solved the question as mentioned in the thumbnail taking a,b,c to be in geometric progression.

    • @MrJurgenvdp
      @MrJurgenvdp Před 3 lety

      Are you sure? If I see your values that would mean n=2 m=7, and that's no solution for 2n²-n=m³? What am I missing here?

    • @Akshay-qu3dc
      @Akshay-qu3dc Před 3 lety +2

      @@MrJurgenvdp The thumbnail of the video mentions that a,b,c are in geometric progression. But in the video on the board a,b,c are mentioned as arithmetic progression.
      Since I am an idiot I solved the question as mentioned in the thumbnail , thinking a,b,c to be in geometric progression.

    • @Tiqerboy
      @Tiqerboy Před 3 lety

      a, b c are in geometric progression, but NOT arithmetic progression. It talks about taking the arithmetic mean which I understand to be (a + b + c)/3

    • @Akshay-qu3dc
      @Akshay-qu3dc Před 3 lety

      @@TiqerboyBoth the cases are considered in the video. When a,b,c are in G.P and A.M is b+2. And when a,b,c are in A.P and G.M is b+2.
      I solved for the former one.

    • @Tiqerboy
      @Tiqerboy Před 3 lety +1

      I stopped watching once he got the answer I got. I did see for the second half, he reversed the problem (inspired by JEE Advanced 2014) but I didn't try to solve that one.

  • @beta_alpha219
    @beta_alpha219 Před 3 lety

    Here it is aah
    a lot to wait

  • @yashrawat9409
    @yashrawat9409 Před 3 lety +1

    JEE Advanced although hardly sees such format questions to solve but they are always interesting ones ( number theory )
    Solution - b² = ac ( from the G.P. fact)
    a = 2b + 6 -c ( simplified A.P. fact)
    Plug it above gives
    b² = 2bc + 6c - c²
    (b-c)² = 6c
    Hence c must be of form 6k²
    and thus b is of form 6k(k + 1)
    and a is of form 6k²(k+1)²
    Edit : Please note that this question was solved from just by looking at thumbnail and that it's has swapped Arithmetic Mean and G.P

  • @wospy1091
    @wospy1091 Před 3 lety

    It's pretty easy to to show that (b-n)*b*(b+n)

  • @SlipperyTeeth
    @SlipperyTeeth Před 3 lety

    We can see immediately that a divides 2 from the last equation(s), so a=1 or a=2.
    However substituting a=1 gives us a cubic in n with no natural number solutions as can be verified by the rational roots theorem or simply taking the derivative (which is always positive) and computing test values.
    Similarly a=2 yields no solutions for n.
    So we've shown that this problem is an absurd construction.

  • @shivam5105
    @shivam5105 Před 3 lety +25

    JEE is basically SAT but on every possible steroid you could think of(that’s what makes it fun tho)
    Btw be ready for a lot of salty Indian viewers coming to your channel just to complain about jee

    • @shivam5105
      @shivam5105 Před 3 lety +4

      Also instead off jee which is covered by hundreds of channels, I’d recommend checking out the ISI and CMI entrance exams

    • @ritam8767
      @ritam8767 Před 3 lety +12

      Bruh dude you can't compare JEE and SAT at all. Let's be honest, the SAT math section is like grade 9 math in india.

    • @ngc-fo5te
      @ngc-fo5te Před 3 lety +1

      @@ritam8767 Agreed but JEE is an easy exam just the same.

    • @random-td7tf
      @random-td7tf Před 3 lety +7

      @@ngc-fo5te u are high today ?

    • @shivam5105
      @shivam5105 Před 3 lety +6

      @@ngc-fo5te sure, if you look purely at the level of the questions objectively out of all the topics in physics, chemistry and mathematics that exist, it’s an easy exam, but there are 2 factors which make it difficult-
      1) it’s an exam attempted by high school students who have to learn all that material in barely 2 years
      2) the time limit is very less for the level and rigour of calculations involved in many of the questions

  • @mknapp1790
    @mknapp1790 Před 3 lety

    It looks like there are no solutions. From am=an+2, we get m>n. But then we have n^3 < m^3 < 2n^2, which implies m=n=1. But then am does not equal an+2.

  • @jgtargaeda
    @jgtargaeda Před 3 lety

    Hi Michael !! There is a non-computational/number theory way to find the smallest natural number n such that the number of digits of n! is greater than n ? Love your content !!

    • @nowonda1984
      @nowonda1984 Před 3 lety +2

      1. Digits(n) = Floor(log_base10(n))+1
      2. Log(n!) = Log(1) + log(2) + ... + log(n)
      3. The sum of those logs can be calculated with an integral from 1 to n of log_base10(x), which is n*(ln(n)-1)+1)/ln(10)
      4. Using the sum above for your inequality, you immediately get that the inequality surely holds for n>10*e. If you fiddle with the inequality a bit, you'll get something like n*ln(10e/n)=25, so the answer is 25.
      Word of caution: I haven't done real math in 20 years, don't take my word for it.

  • @adandap
    @adandap Před 3 lety

    That was a nice problem, but I was more impressed with that wicked overhanging layback at the end. All of your hobbies seem to involve chalk!

  • @jackthisout9480
    @jackthisout9480 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm more afraid of rock climbing than of math now, thanks to you!

  • @jatadharipiyush4058
    @jatadharipiyush4058 Před 3 lety +9

    JEE Advance is an exam for the admission in Indian Institute of Technology (IIT)

  • @karthikkrishnaswami3164

    Very ordinary and simple question Alas!

  • @cauchym9883
    @cauchym9883 Před 3 lety

    I think the only way n*(2n-1) can be a perfect cube is for n=1. But then the equation of the geometric mean has no solution as it becomes 0=2.
    In fact, n and 2n-1 are always coprime: if a prime p divides n, then 2n-1 leaves the rest -1 modulo p.
    EDIT: so in order for n*(2n-1) to be a perfect square means that n has to be a perfect cube itself and 2n-1 has to be a perfect cube as well.

  • @billtensus
    @billtensus Před 3 lety

    a+c=2(b+3)
    ac=b^2
    c=b*b/a
    So, a + b*b/a=2b+6
    a*a+b*b=2ab+6a
    (a-b)^2 = 6a
    a=6*n*n. then b=2*6*n*n. and c=4*6*n*n. [n belongs to N]
    a,2a,4a
    where
    a+4a=2(2a+3)=4a+6
    a=6
    Ans.4

  • @saswatabanerjee5986
    @saswatabanerjee5986 Před 3 lety

    The second problem has no solutions because the arithmetic mean of three numbers is always greater than or equal to the geometric mean. But b > b + 2 is an impossibility.

  • @davidchung1697
    @davidchung1697 Před 3 lety

    The problem was very interesting - loved it.
    In the coverage of the second version of the problem was a bit of let down - though. Why start on the problem if it was not going to be fully solved? I suppose the solution was much more involved.

  • @elosant2061
    @elosant2061 Před 3 lety

    Could you try a Cambridge STEP 3 paper?

  • @lgooch
    @lgooch Před 2 lety

    wow i did this in 2 minutes. im preparing for competition math and this question is much easier than the ones i see on your channel, or im just improving.

  • @Tiqerboy
    @Tiqerboy Před 3 lety

    I seriously expected you to say after "obviously 4" is "and this is a good place to stop". Done.
    I solved it pretty much the way you did except I actually solved for 'n' in terms of a using the quadratic formula. Straightforward arguments lead to n = 2 as the only possible solution.

  • @Abdul_the_next_door
    @Abdul_the_next_door Před 3 lety +1

    In India we have JEE mains for regular engineering colleges. Approximately 10% of top scorers of JEE mains are allowed to give JEE advanced exam. Based on ranking of JEE advanced, students get admission in colleges of the category called IIT.
    Approximately 1.2 million students attend JEE mains every year.

  • @FadkinsDiet
    @FadkinsDiet Před 3 lety

    I'm just wondering if there are other solutions involving different positionings of c in the geometric progression. (c,a,b or a,c,b)

  • @GroundThing
    @GroundThing Před 3 lety

    For am = na+2, a must divide 2, since a divides n*a. Thus a = 1 or 2. for a = 1, (2n^2-n)^1/3 = n+2, or 2n^2-n = n^3+6n^2+12n+8, or n^3+4n^2+13n+8 = 0, which has no natural number roots (can be verified with the cubic formula or by brute force with polynomial long division, but that's too much for a comment), so a =/= 1. So for the alternate case you have a = 2, where 2(2n^2-n)^1/3 = 2n+2, or (2n^2-n)^1/3 = n+1, or 2n^2-n = n^3+3n^2+3n+1, which is to say n^3+n^2+4n+1=0, which also has no natural number roots (again can be verified with the cubic formula or polynomial long division, which in this case is, I believe, easier, since the last term is 1, meaning n = +/- 1 would have to be a root, I'm pretty sure, if it had natural roots, which can be checked as n = 1 would result in 7, and n = -1 would result in -3; I'm not 100% on the polynomial long division aspect, so if it's wrong, let me know, but either way you can use the cubic equation to confirm there are no natural roots.)
    Edit: just realized that for the switched form, n doesn't need to be a natural number just a positive rational number. Either way, the roots of both equations are negative, and so cannot be a quotient of two natural numbers. I don't feel like rewriting the whole comment to account for that, so here's this addendum.

  • @ostdog9385
    @ostdog9385 Před 3 lety +4

    You could see that m-n and a are a pair of factors of 2 then pair that with the cubic equation and solve.

    • @ScorpioneOrzion
      @ScorpioneOrzion Před 3 lety +2

      only solutions that are integers are 1 and 0, for both values (for the formula with the variables m and n)
      but both give no solution

    • @TJStellmach
      @TJStellmach Před 3 lety

      Given your observation about m-n being a factor of 2 (which must also be positive since a is positive), putting either m-n=1 or m-n=2 into 2n^2-n=m^3 gives a cubic polynomial equation in n with all positive coefficients. So clearly there are no roots for any positive n, without having to solve the cubic.

    • @ostdog9385
      @ostdog9385 Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for doin the work i didnt feel it lol

  • @lostmorningstar
    @lostmorningstar Před 3 lety

    No solution to the second one. factoring the last expression yields either m = n+ 1 or m= n+2, since m and n are naturals. plugging either into m^3 = 2n^2 -n then solving for n yields no natural solutions for n, due to descartes rule of signs causing the expressions in n to have no positive roots, therefore no natural solutions for n.

  • @gniedu
    @gniedu Před 3 lety

    I guess the variant case has no solutions because:
    Let a=b-r and c=b+r (r is the common difference from the arithmetic progression)
    Their GM will be [(b-r)*b*(b+r)]^(1/3), and that is equal to b+2. Cubing both sides one gets:
    b^3- b*r^2 = b^3 + 6b^2 + 12b + 8
    6b^2 + 12b + 8 = -b*r^2 < 0
    6*(b+1)^2 + 2 < 0, which is impossible for real b, let alone natural b.

  • @mikeh283
    @mikeh283 Před 3 lety

    Right from the bat you can see that a could only be 1, 6, or 13 if we seek positive integer values of that rational function....(just divide it)

  • @zeroone2175
    @zeroone2175 Před 3 lety +1

    Jee exams are taken after you pass std 12. The exams have 2 phases mains and advanced. It is a joint exam for b.tech, b.arch and other degrees but b.tech is most aspired by Indian students. It is the most important entrance exam for these degrees but we have other exams too like wbjee, Kerela pet, etc. The subjects for b.tech are phy, chem and maths.
    The mains are taken in 2 phases since a few years. This year, it is being held in 4, due to uncertain academic year, due to the pandemic.
    The mains exam has 75 questions, 3 hours. 25 phy, 25 chem, 25 mathematics.
    In each subject we have 20 MCQ while 5 integer type answers. Each question holds 4 marks. There is a -1 marking for wrong answer in mcq. No minus marking in integers.
    Now, the best institutes are IITs and they decided to hold a separate exam for themselves called advanced. It is taken in a single phase. The marking and pattern is not fixed. To appear in advanced, you must be among top 250k in mains but your mains marks are not considered for admission. So basically, if you just pass the mains and do good advanced, it would pose no threats. The marks of mains, however are considered for other colleges, where the marks of advanced are of no use.

  • @vishalmishra3046
    @vishalmishra3046 Před 3 lety +1

    *Solution of modified (2nd) problem in the video* . (a, b, c) = (b-d, b, b+d) and abc = GM^3 = (b+2)^3. After solving d^2 = 4 and b = -2. So (a, b, c) = (0, -2, -4) or (-4, -2, 0). Therefore, if a=0 then (a^2+a-14)/(a-1) = (0+0-14)/1 = -14 . If a=-4 then (a^2+a-14)/(a+1) = (16-4-14)/-3 = 2/3 .

    • @rvaisberg
      @rvaisberg Před 3 lety

      Negative numbers are not Natural

  • @abhinavdiddigam2330
    @abhinavdiddigam2330 Před 2 lety

    This exam is just an exam to enter one of the prestigious engineering colleges in the country, basically like an entrance test and has two parts and the JEE advanced is the level 2 and math isn't the only section in the exam but physics chemistry as well. Topics in math are mostly calculus, trig,algebra and graph theory but only little of number theory

  • @harshitarora8565
    @harshitarora8565 Před 3 lety +6

    Please let this one be the last, there's literally hundreds of channels covering jee topics.
    And a personal request- Can you please start a series of videos covering topics of number theory, vector calculus, etc.

    • @tomatrix7525
      @tomatrix7525 Před 3 lety +2

      I think he has vector calc done too, partly atleast. He has a very coherent number theory playlist

  • @ianhernandez533
    @ianhernandez533 Před 3 lety

    What’s ur workout schedule 😍😍😍

  • @void7366
    @void7366 Před 3 lety +1

    I found a problem that you might be interested in ! It's the geometry problem from the 2019 polish math olympiad, i found it to be extremely hard.

  • @wolffang21burgers
    @wolffang21burgers Před 3 lety +1

    7:50 am = an + 2 => a=1,2
    There are no integer solutions to (2n^2-n) = (n+b)^3 when b=1,2 (as n divides LHS so must divide b as well).
    Dropping the b/a = n condition:
    a,b,c = a, n+a, 2n+a
    abc = (n+a)((n+a)^2-n^2) = (n+a)^3 - (n+a)(n^2) < (n+a)^3
    abc = (n+a+2)^3 > (n+a)^3
    Hence this has no solutions over the naturals. (Moreover, it has no solutions over the positive reals).

  • @SlidellRobotics
    @SlidellRobotics Před 3 lety

    Second question has no solutions almost trivially. For any set of positive numbers (e.g. a, b, and c), the geometric mean of the set is less than or equal to the arithmetic mean of the set. But as a, b, and c are in an arithmetic progression, their arithmetic mean is b, so the geometric mean is less than or equal to b and definitely NOT b+2.

  • @mtbassini
    @mtbassini Před 3 lety

    i'd like to see the follow up. coming from someone that doesn't have time or enough practice to solve it on my own.

  • @geetheshtg8023
    @geetheshtg8023 Před 3 lety +1

    JEE Advanced is an entrance exam to get into IITs. It is quite possible that even if you have all the concepts at your fingertips you may not be able to attempt all questions on time. It's a complete horror when you see such questions to be solved in under 2 minutes.

  • @jonathanhanon9372
    @jonathanhanon9372 Před 3 lety

    So we can reduce n(2n-1) = m^3 having a solution to an argument of coprimes.
    If n is not 1, then these are coprime, and so, n = x^3, and we would need y^3 = 2x^3 - 1 to be a perfect cube.
    But we know the difference between two cubes to be x^3 - y^3 = (x-y)(x^2+xy+y^2)
    So, if 2x^3 - 1 is a square, then it would need to satisfy that.
    But y^3 - x^3 = (2x^3 - 1) - x^3 = x^3 - 1 = (x-1)(x^2+x+1)
    Since x and y must be coprime, if I'm not mistaken, for x not equal y, this would imply that the factors of x-1 are the same prime factors as x-y.
    Therefore, we would need y = 1 or x = 0.
    However, since we're in the natural numbers, we would simply get x = y = 1 as the only solution to that, making it that no progression satisfies the desired property.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango Před 3 lety +1

    Let's say instead that the geometric mean of b-d, b, and b+d is b - 2, instead of b + 2. Then
    b(b-d)(b+d) = (b-2)^3
    b^3 - bd^2 = b^3 - 6b^2 + 12b - 8
    6b^2 - (12+d^2)b + 8 = 0
    b = (12 + d^2 + sqrt(d^4 + 24d^2 - 48))/12
    Through trial and error, I found that b = 2, d = 2 works.
    Unfortunately, b-d = 0 and thus can't be a solution to the problem as restated.

  • @featherton3381
    @featherton3381 Před 3 lety

    The second problem doesn't have a solution. We need to solve the equation a(m-n) = 2, so it's very easy to see that m-n needs to be positive for any a,b,c to be solutions, but plugging in n=1 yields m=1 and m-n is a decreasing function in n for n > 1. Maybe if we loosen the constraints to let a,b,c and n be any integers it might work out

    • @featherton3381
      @featherton3381 Před 3 lety

      Nope, even then there is no solution. If we allow a,b,c and n to be negative or positive, we can manually check that m-n is not in \{-2,-1,1,2\} for any positive n (if n > 6 then m-n < -2). It's trivial to show that n cannot be 0. Thus, if there is any solution, n must be negative. Consider (for n > 0), a = a, b= -na, c = (-1-2n)a. Then we can reduce this solving for m + n in \{-2,-1,1,2\} for some n > 0, where m = cbrt(n(2n+1)). Again, we can easily verify that m+n is increasing in n for n > 0 and that m+n > 2 if n = 1.

  • @nurlant5976
    @nurlant5976 Před 3 lety

    am is divisible by a. na is divisible by a. then 2 must be divisible by a. So, a is equal either 1 or 2. If a=1, then m=n+2 => n^3+n^2+4n+8=0, no solution in integers. If a=2, then m=n+1 => n^3+n^2+4n+1=0, no solution in integers. Ans: no solutions

  • @danielbranscombe6662
    @danielbranscombe6662 Před 3 lety

    Technically it didn't say that the geometric progression is in the order a,b,c. b/a being a positive integer gives that a

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  Před 3 lety +1

      You get the ordering from the fact that b/a is an integer.

    • @danielbranscombe6662
      @danielbranscombe6662 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MichaelPennMath Ok, I get that b/a being a positive integer gives that b>a but I don't see what that says about c. For example if we had a=2,c=4,b=8 we have b/a=8/2=4 and c is between a and b.

  • @aleksmich8928
    @aleksmich8928 Před 3 lety

    Consider the quadratic equation 2n^2 - n - m^3 = 0, where n is the variable. Then the discriminant D = (-1)^2 - 4*2*m^3 = 1 + 8m^3. However, the only way n can be natural is for 1 + 8m^3 to be a perfect square. Notice, that 8m^3 is a perfect cube. Hence, a perfect cube and a perfect square differ by 1, which can only happen if the perfect cube is 8 and the perfect square is 9. Thus, m = 1 and therefore n = 1. But n = 1 is not a solution of the initial problem. Due to this fact we can claim, that no solutions exist.

  • @bulgeo09
    @bulgeo09 Před 3 lety

    What about if n is a perfect square and c=an^{1/2} you still have a geometric progression but the order is deifferent

  • @mikeh283
    @mikeh283 Před 3 lety

    There is no solution (in the naturals) unless you allow the shift of b to be 0, rather than 2. Then it's trivial, all 1's.
    This is due to the fact that the only time the difference between a square and a cube is 1 is when the square is 9 and the cube 8.

  • @gopisanthilalgandhi
    @gopisanthilalgandhi Před 3 lety

    In your second question, you cannot have the geometric mean to be larger than arithmetic mean for a natural numbered r.

  • @gouharmaquboolnitp
    @gouharmaquboolnitp Před 3 lety +1

    Can I give you such more problems???

  • @ericvosselmans5489
    @ericvosselmans5489 Před 3 lety

    You didn't slip while climbing. Would you try it without ropes and safety?

  • @areein4735
    @areein4735 Před 3 lety +1

    This was rather routine

  • @leeladhar7468
    @leeladhar7468 Před 3 lety +3

    Jee advanced is a 6 hr test broken in two sets with an hr of brake in between , it constitutes physics chemistry and maths and is given by nearly 250,000 students in hopes of securing a seat from 10,000 available in the IIT's

  • @thegamerse
    @thegamerse Před 3 lety

    How did you know that b and a are one after the other in the geometric series?

    • @stephenbeck7222
      @stephenbeck7222 Před 3 lety +1

      I think it’s implied in the statement “a,b,c are in sequence”. I suppose you could try another variant on the problem where c is in the middle or something similar but Michael’s method is what the written problem wants.

  • @sceaserjulius9476
    @sceaserjulius9476 Před 3 lety

    I cracked this exam back in 2014, not so good memories 🙏

  • @daviidayala4987
    @daviidayala4987 Před 3 lety +3

    I wanna know what happens with the geometric mean variant :(((

  • @ranjeetsohanpal752
    @ranjeetsohanpal752 Před 3 lety

    JEE Exam is Engineering entrance exam conducted in two phases
    1.Main - for admission to NITs(or more engineering colleges) and eligiblity test for Advanced
    2.Advanced- More challenging than Main.For admission to 23 IITs in India.

  • @FifLak931
    @FifLak931 Před 3 lety +1

    This Dune T-shirt, respect