Oh my gosh same I just found this video for the first time and all these emotions from forever ago came rearing back up 😢😢 I never thought of that kiss Jack gave you Ianto in that way... I can’t believe John is playing me like this in 2020
To be honest, I don't even think the biggest problem is that it was Ianto who died. Yes, I ship him and Jack heavily, but the problem that has risen is that they have killed off all the main characters except Gwen and Jack. Killing off characters happens, and can make the story move forward- however, the issue is that we are left with little to work with. With everyone dead, Gwen pregnant and Jack giving up and running away, the show should have ended there unless someone is brought back.
blackenedangel13 yeah. Gwen was our entry into the show, but by season 2 she was just a thing that was there. She was the least likeable character save Owen, she would’ve been the one to kill off and leave Tosh and Ianto, at the very least. Heartbreak works if it were set up that she was pregnant before, and Tosh and Ianto could’ve lived and we’d keep watching. I don’t really care if Owen dies because he was pretty much dead anyway.
Thanks for sharing. It's so sad; Jack and Ianto were so perfect together. I wish they had shown more of Jack going through the grieving process as a way for him and all of us to say good bye to Ianto.
Someone once said "no one ever truly dies in science fiction". Miracle Day performed extremely poorly. Many people stopped watching after Ianto's death all together. It's entirely possible, I think, that they'd bring in a bunch of viewers by bringing him (and Tosh and Owen) back from the dead.
I cried so hard when he died then my mom walked say next to me and asked if A) a boy friend dumped me or B) a friend of mine passed away I coutuned to cry told her Ianto died then she ask how close to that freind i was and when his funeral would be and I had to explain he was on a show called torch wood she proceeded to look at me shake her head and walk out of my room XD
The danger in this show is that it's one thing to kill off one or two characters. At that point it's tragic. But what worries me is that the show has killed off pretty much everyone and there's fewer and fewer characters to root for. Then the people they add to the story will never really compare to Ianto, Tosh and Owen. You want heartbreak, but too much heartbreak makes your audience callus to the whole thing and less involved. It's like the Sopranos and who gets wacked next.
In 2023 still, i cry when i watch the death of Ianto, it is the most unjust and sad death. Whitout Ianto, Torchwood lost his soul, i will never forget this character who marked me for his touching side and also for the beautiful couple he forms with Jack Harkness. Justice for Ianto !
Same, I’m still not over it 😅🥲 The show should have ended after CoE. There’s only so many beloved characters you can kill off without the show losing its soul and after CoE it did lose its soul imho (also, Ianto is still to this day my favourite fictional character 😅). I’m not really interested in a solo-Gwen reboot either (as it has been suggested a couple times). I like Gwen, but not enough to watch a whole show of just her.
@@Elkendrien ahh I'm reassured to see that I'm not the only one to find his death unfair fifteen years later, As for a series with only Gwen I don't feel it as much even if I like Gwen. But good for "keeping Ianto alive" in my memory I read a lot of fictions there are very beautiful ones, I recommend it 😉
thanks for the clip. That was such a sad scene. i cried my eyes out. i love hearing John talk about TW from a fan point of view- he understands where we've coming from and how we feel. its nice to hear an actor relate to that. i'll miss Ianto!
@TheMoonFellinLove The thing is, Ianto didn't have to die. They could have killed off Gwen and gotten the same result-Jack would have been willing to sacrifice his grandson either way. Davies says that they killed off ianto to show that no one is safe from the hazards of their job, but all it does is show that only Gwen is safe from death. Every single Torchwood employee has died EXCEPT Gwen. They would have made a better point if they had killed her off and let a more minor character live.
Briandon Stark no, kill her and no one cares. She was the entry point, but now she’s just like the rest of them. She knows all the secrets, she’s not needed. You don’t need her soul because Ianto also cries when people are dying, more so, even. They could’ve done so much more with Ianto because even now we know nothing about him, and he was building up his relationship with Jack whereas Gwen’s story was going nowhere. She argued with Rys, which was going on the whole series. Her dying while she’s pregnant even works with the story, Ianto’s death was pointless and the show is so much worse without him, and Tosh and Owen. Gwen is the worst character in the show and they kill off everyone but her, it’s just dumb. Pointless and dumb. Ianto was a better character and people liked him more, his death ruined the show. Gwen’s death would’ve made more sense and been a better direction for the story to go in.
When Ianto died I cried for a good 15 minutes afterwards... He was byy far my favorite character. And I thought I cried hard when Tosh and Owen died...
I love John Barrowman, he is just such a lovely person and he is so understanding and respectful of his fans. Plus how awesome is it that he calls himself a geek and shares his love of the show and characters as much as we do?
I haven't watched Day 4 as yet, I'm still dreading watching the scene even though I know that Ianto's dead. But as long as I don't watch, he's still alive, right? and I agree, RTD is always out against my dear Ianto. :(
I was actually thinking the same thing as John when I watched it for the first time! I mean, if you look at the 1st series episode "Cyberwoman" he does bring him back to life! (Okay, maybe he just resuscitates him, but that's not what I think!!!) I was actually yelling at the television "COME ON JACK, KISS HIM!!! BRING HIM BACK TO LIFE!!" I have never cried so much at a character death. Ever. In my life!!!!!!
:( ...too late? It's never too late! It's sci-fi!! I don't think I'll ever come to terms with Ianto's death. Though the scene was played beautifully...I think it really wasn't a necessary way to incorporate that "drama" that RTD was talking about. Torchwood died along with Ianto in Day 4 for me.
My heart aches every episode from day four on. Also i thought and hoped for the same thing as john. and i hoped and hoped even after they said he was dead. but nonetheless, it didnt change anything.
I hate RTD for killing of Ianto... Ianto, by far is my favourite character, and I LOVE Gareth David-Lloyd and Ianto Jones, both their characters are just amazing, without a doubt. I agree with Silverwolflucky, I don't think I'll watch Series 4 if they find a new "i-candy" We love you Ianto :D
as far as getting a new team in i think with Doctor Who it is a completely different thing because no matter who plays the Doctor he is still The Doctor, still the same character at heart. and as far as it being the Gwen show I'm only halfway through the first season but i really don't feel any connection to Gwen, whether its the acting or the writing or what. i think Torchwood has a good base but somehow it doesn't pull it off. Like the Countryside episode could have been so much more emotional
I watched episode 5 right after episode 4 and I was crying so hard I couldn't see the screen until a third of the way into the 5th episode. They had better bring Ianto back.
You two weren't alone who cried. We all were /there/ with you - actors or characters, in moments like these it really doesn't matter. I lost it too, John, and EVEN sooner that you two did, knowing what's gonna happen. (After Ianto's "I love you" I was praying to not any nonswimmer come in my room - gallons and gallons of tears, really; actually whole the third season)
i just watched this scene for the first time and i have never cried this much over a character death. ever. and i've watched a lot of stuff. And i even knew it was coming! I had to pause the episode for a while before i could finish it and as soon as Gwen pulled that sheet off of him i started up again...cuz its true, that is the realization he's really gone for good. Ianto was such a great character, this is crap
@TheMoonFellinLove It wasn't necessary for Ianto to die for Jack to sacrifice his grandson. We already know that Jack makes those difficult choices because he knows he has to (i.e Small Worlds). RTD just didn't like the fact that more people were identifying with the character that wasn't the one he wanted them identifying with. He should be happy now, because Torchwood season 4 isn't really Torchwood. It's Excalibur (look it up), which is what he wanted in the first place.
I don't know what's going on in writers' rooms these days. Now actual death is the only thing that writers think can motivate plot and generate emotion. Junior high school thinking
@silverwolflucky i totaly agree with you, i watched first episode of season 4, story was quite interesting but what just spoiled it for me was all that "lets make gwen a wonder woman" thing,
i swear damn RTD HATES ianto. i mean think about it all through season one and two, gwen was trying to get with jack (and RTD even ADMITTED gwen is his fave character etc) and then obv they put him with ianto. RTD was going to kill off Ianto INSTEAD OF OWEN in season two (obv that didnt go forward) and so, season three was "the right time" for him to die (my ass it was the right time) if season four becomes the "gwen" show...screw it if im watching that crap... ianto...we will always love you xx
ha ha, i agree with you. my head is telling me that Ianto is dead and they're paving the way for a new team, but my heart is hoping and wishing that he will come back!
Wow. I'm glad to find out Jack tried to put some of his own lifeforce into Ianto at the end, because that's what I thought he did. He had done it before, what was it, in Cyberwoman? And the way they say it even make it more sad. Jack was too late.
thanx for this one, really appreciated :) seems JB still is really is into this (after this long time since shooting) ...means he can comprehend some of those Fan-Feelings about this charackter (and YES its only a charakter) dying. meanwhile I'm fine with everything they did to TW so far... Another, even better season will be great too!
@mrsholloway77 But it will still be Russell and Julie in control :) and John Barrowman ...and they have said that it will be within the canon , a continuation of the last 3 seasons and it will be darker ...and It's two teams trying to work together to stop an alien treat..one team is Gwen and Jack, the other two americans. and Torchwood has become a legend..so I'm thinking it's a few years after COE. But I will still miss Janto best romantic couple,Hope Jack goes to his grave or something :)
well done characters do die all the time in fiction but all of the people who want ianto back only do it because they understand the relationship between jack and ianto. they feel all the pain and heartache that jack went through because they began to grow an emotional attachment to ianto i want them all back . bring them all back IS a writer taking risks because they could lose alot of veiwers by doing so but they have already lost alot by killing them i of course value your opinion :)
In doctor who how season 5 starts compleatly new. No mention of rose or donna or anything!! They compleatly renew it. I dont want that to happen with torchwood. I dont want them to get a bunch of new people and jsut start again D: PLEASE BEING IANTO BACK!! I really wish ianto didnt die. I jsut watched the death scene before watching this. And already being in tears, when I heard jack say that when he kissed him he tryed to save him. I cryed so much more. IANTO!! WHY DID YOU TAKE HIM AWAY D:
I can't help buy wonder if RTD was somehow jealous of the young beautiful JB, and how JB was able to interact so closely with the hot GDL, who RTD wrote about in his book as such a hot young man.
@silverwolflucky I want a fucking Ianto show!! Like in Doctor Who where Rory was revived as a plastic centurion, Ianto could be something like that... a plastic... um... or metal... thingy. Like a pimp from the 70's, or a robotic tudor who never dies and has lasers in his eyes and guns in his ass... or hands.
@wiezyczkowata Did they? Please tell me Jack at least came back. I haven't gotten to watch it yet, but if Jack isn't back I refuse to watch the series. Jack belongs there, and nowhere else
@LondonSkiies Ugh yess. I'm iffy about watching the 4th season for bringing in new cast...if they did that, I would go find the writer and kiss him/her right on the lips. (also, I already pretend CoE never happen :D)
YESSS! that would be THE BEST! or like in the season 1 finale of DW gwen could absorb the time vortex, then bring ianto back to life so he would live forever (like jack x3) and then she would kiss jack, energy transfer jack dies comes back blah blah blah AND THEN SOME YUMMY JANTO!
Although I think let bygones be bygones, is it really good to write main characters off over and over again? It looks like a one trick pony to me. Writers can still write good stories without killing main characters, like Doctor Who or other classic series.
@LondonSkiies Worst part is that that won't happen. The description for Series 4 is "the only thing that could bring Jack back to earth is his unstated love for Gwen" ):< BOOOOOOOOO!
And gripping and horrifying but somehow it just missed it's mark and i have no idea why. I really really want to like Torchwood because i like Jack but somehow its just not grabbing me the way Doctor Who has.
Reading all these comments, I feel the need to defend the writers. I cried and hated when Ianto died, but that's what writers have to do. They create lovable characters that the audience will cherish, then put them in the worst situations. They took him away because everybody wanted him to continue living. So good move on the writers part, and I hope they don't bring him back otherwise his death would be useless. I only have one request: Please don't make a new 'eye candy' for Jack!!
That's weird. I never actually thought Jack was kissing him to revive him. To me, it was like a goodbye... ? (or maybe my tears were to thick and I didn't see properly). I'm sure Gwen will make a new team with Lois and some new man we don't know. She'll get into trouble, and Jack will come back to save the day. And Ianto should stay dead. bUt a flashback would be nice... I'll miss GDL.
Couldn't help but laugh at the overblown backlash Ianto's death received, a show run by Russell T. Davies is fairly unlikely to be discriminatory towards gay people. I thought it was brilliant, an unexpected shock in the middle of Children of Earth, well performed by both actors and beautifully sad.
They need to bring Ianto back. Use the glove, get the Doctor, call on Bad Wolf, do SOMETHING!!!
ShadeSlayer1911 both gloves were destroyed
Courtney Toye
Turn the tardis into a paradox machine and go back in time + retrieve it before its destroyed :")
I read the second sentence in Eve's voice to John.
8 years on and I still feel this
The show died when Ianto died. Miracle Day sucked eggs
real
And the show was dead with Ianto´s.
BRING HIM BACK, i think storytelling is important only if the story makes us feel more alive. killing IANTO is making life more dreary
Is anybody watching this while in quarantine 2020 and balling their eyes out
cause i am😭😭
Oh my gosh same I just found this video for the first time and all these emotions from forever ago came rearing back up 😢😢 I never thought of that kiss Jack gave you Ianto in that way... I can’t believe John is playing me like this in 2020
Can't watch it without Ianto. Jack didn't even tell him he loved him!
AmorDelFriki he said it in the house of the dead
To be honest, I don't even think the biggest problem is that it was Ianto who died. Yes, I ship him and Jack heavily, but the problem that has risen is that they have killed off all the main characters except Gwen and Jack. Killing off characters happens, and can make the story move forward- however, the issue is that we are left with little to work with. With everyone dead, Gwen pregnant and Jack giving up and running away, the show should have ended there unless someone is brought back.
blackenedangel13 yeah. Gwen was our entry into the show, but by season 2 she was just a thing that was there. She was the least likeable character save Owen, she would’ve been the one to kill off and leave Tosh and Ianto, at the very least. Heartbreak works if it were set up that she was pregnant before, and Tosh and Ianto could’ve lived and we’d keep watching. I don’t really care if Owen dies because he was pretty much dead anyway.
Thanks for sharing. It's so sad; Jack and Ianto were so perfect together. I wish they had shown more of Jack going through the grieving process as a way for him and all of us to say good bye to Ianto.
Someone once said "no one ever truly dies in science fiction".
Miracle Day performed extremely poorly. Many people stopped watching after Ianto's death all together. It's entirely possible, I think, that they'd bring in a bunch of viewers by bringing him (and Tosh and Owen) back from the dead.
No. Torchwood committed to killing cast members permanently, that's part of the reason it stabds out so much.
Briandon Stark thank god for that
It hurt too much for me to watch torchwood after ianto
I cried so hard when he died then my mom walked say next to me and asked if A) a boy friend dumped me or B) a friend of mine passed away I coutuned to cry told her Ianto died then she ask how close to that freind i was and when his funeral would be and I had to explain he was on a show called torch wood she proceeded to look at me shake her head and walk out of my room XD
I love how he can make you very sad in one moment and the next he can make you burst out laughing.
The danger in this show is that it's one thing to kill off one or two characters. At that point it's tragic. But what worries me is that the show has killed off pretty much everyone and there's fewer and fewer characters to root for. Then the people they add to the story will never really compare to Ianto, Tosh and Owen. You want heartbreak, but too much heartbreak makes your audience callus to the whole thing and less involved. It's like the Sopranos and who gets wacked next.
Chris Mac they should’ve left it at Tosh and Owen, Ianto’s death just ruined everything and lost half the viewers
In 2023 still, i cry when i watch the death of Ianto, it is the most unjust and sad death.
Whitout Ianto, Torchwood lost his soul, i will never forget this character who marked me for his touching side and also for the beautiful couple he forms with Jack Harkness.
Justice for Ianto !
Same, I’m still not over it 😅🥲 The show should have ended after CoE. There’s only so many beloved characters you can kill off without the show losing its soul and after CoE it did lose its soul imho (also, Ianto is still to this day my favourite fictional character 😅).
I’m not really interested in a solo-Gwen reboot either (as it has been suggested a couple times). I like Gwen, but not enough to watch a whole show of just her.
@@Elkendrien ahh I'm reassured to see that I'm not the only one to find his death unfair fifteen years later,
As for a series with only Gwen I don't feel it as much even if I like Gwen.
But good for "keeping Ianto alive" in my memory I read a lot of fictions there are very beautiful ones, I recommend it 😉
@@RCJulia I've been doing so as well, recently. There really are some great stories out there!
@@Elkendrien yes absolutely 😉
Gareth said he was hung over when he filmed the scene where he was already dead and gwen was sort of crying there
This is gonna help in this story I'm writing. Thank you John. :)
Moffat said of the DW season 7 finale that death is never permanent in the Doctor Who universe. BRING IANTO BACK!!
thanks for the clip. That was such a sad scene. i cried my eyes out. i love hearing John talk about TW from a fan point of view- he understands where we've coming from and how we feel. its nice to hear an actor relate to that. i'll miss Ianto!
@TheMoonFellinLove
The thing is, Ianto didn't have to die. They could have killed off Gwen and gotten the same result-Jack would have been willing to sacrifice his grandson either way.
Davies says that they killed off ianto to show that no one is safe from the hazards of their job, but all it does is show that only Gwen is safe from death. Every single Torchwood employee has died EXCEPT Gwen. They would have made a better point if they had killed her off and let a more minor character live.
SebastianandCiel Gwen is the viewpoint character, more or less. She's the entry point for viewers. Kill her, the show ends.
Briandon Stark no, kill her and no one cares. She was the entry point, but now she’s just like the rest of them. She knows all the secrets, she’s not needed. You don’t need her soul because Ianto also cries when people are dying, more so, even. They could’ve done so much more with Ianto because even now we know nothing about him, and he was building up his relationship with Jack whereas Gwen’s story was going nowhere. She argued with Rys, which was going on the whole series. Her dying while she’s pregnant even works with the story, Ianto’s death was pointless and the show is so much worse without him, and Tosh and Owen. Gwen is the worst character in the show and they kill off everyone but her, it’s just dumb. Pointless and dumb. Ianto was a better character and people liked him more, his death ruined the show. Gwen’s death would’ve made more sense and been a better direction for the story to go in.
i just finished the series and i was like wtf when he died. i was like "I WANT MY MAN BACK!!"
Thank you very much for sharing this with us. It's very appreciated. :)
Just...make like a Ianto clone with all of his memories and feelings.
When Ianto died I cried for a good 15 minutes afterwards... He was byy far my favorite character.
And I thought I cried hard when Tosh and Owen died...
I like John's version of events
Torchwood isn't Torchwood and Jack isn't Jack without our teaboy. Miracle Day made that abundantly clear.
thank you for posting. I love john barrowman to pieces and Captain Jack will always be a hero to me.
I love John Barrowman, he is just such a lovely person and he is so understanding and respectful of his fans. Plus how awesome is it that he calls himself a geek and shares his love of the show and characters as much as we do?
At first I was sad, and his voice was trembling a little but then he brought up that mustache bit and turned back into John and I just cracked. XD
I haven't watched Day 4 as yet, I'm still dreading watching the scene even though I know that Ianto's dead. But as long as I don't watch, he's still alive, right?
and I agree, RTD is always out against my dear Ianto. :(
Hm, two and a half years later and I still cry when I watch that.
I watched it...I thought I was ready but I wasn't!!!!! I curled into a ball and sobbed for like an hour!
Reallyyyy incredible acting
I was actually thinking the same thing as John when I watched it for the first time! I mean, if you look at the 1st series episode "Cyberwoman" he does bring him back to life! (Okay, maybe he just resuscitates him, but that's not what I think!!!) I was actually yelling at the television "COME ON JACK, KISS HIM!!! BRING HIM BACK TO LIFE!!" I have never cried so much at a character death. Ever. In my life!!!!!!
:( ...too late? It's never too late! It's sci-fi!!
I don't think I'll ever come to terms with Ianto's death. Though the scene was played beautifully...I think it really wasn't a necessary way to incorporate that "drama" that RTD was talking about.
Torchwood died along with Ianto in Day 4 for me.
BRING IANTO BACK. USE HIS RISEN MITTEN
My heart aches every episode from day four on. Also i thought and hoped for the same thing as john. and i hoped and hoped even after they said he was dead. but nonetheless, it didnt change anything.
I hate RTD for killing of Ianto... Ianto, by far is my favourite character, and I LOVE Gareth David-Lloyd and Ianto Jones, both their characters are just amazing, without a doubt. I agree with Silverwolflucky, I don't think I'll watch Series 4 if they find a new "i-candy"
We love you Ianto :D
as far as getting a new team in i think with Doctor Who it is a completely different thing because no matter who plays the Doctor he is still The Doctor, still the same character at heart. and as far as it being the Gwen show I'm only halfway through the first season but i really don't feel any connection to Gwen, whether its the acting or the writing or what. i think Torchwood has a good base but somehow it doesn't pull it off. Like the Countryside episode could have been so much more emotional
I watched episode 5 right after episode 4 and I was crying so hard I couldn't see the screen until a third of the way into the 5th episode. They had better bring Ianto back.
on a lighter note: LET ME ENTERTAIN YOU!!!!!!!!!! XD
My heart aches every episode from day four on.
You two weren't alone who cried. We all were /there/ with you - actors or characters, in moments like these it really doesn't matter.
I lost it too, John, and EVEN sooner that you two did, knowing what's gonna happen. (After Ianto's "I love you" I was praying to not any nonswimmer come in my room - gallons and gallons of tears, really; actually whole the third season)
i just watched this scene for the first time and i have never cried this much over a character death. ever. and i've watched a lot of stuff. And i even knew it was coming! I had to pause the episode for a while before i could finish it and as soon as Gwen pulled that sheet off of him i started up again...cuz its true, that is the realization he's really gone for good. Ianto was such a great character, this is crap
RIGHT/WHERE WAS THE DOCTOR OMIGOD
♥ I Love Torchwood .I Love Ianto . I Love Jack. ♥
@TheMoonFellinLove It wasn't necessary for Ianto to die for Jack to sacrifice his grandson. We already know that Jack makes those difficult choices because he knows he has to (i.e Small Worlds). RTD just didn't like the fact that more people were identifying with the character that wasn't the one he wanted them identifying with. He should be happy now, because Torchwood season 4 isn't really Torchwood. It's Excalibur (look it up), which is what he wanted in the first place.
I'm gonna have to watch this series again. He loses me mid-way through his explanation.
I don't know what's going on in writers' rooms these days. Now actual death is the only thing that writers think can motivate plot and generate emotion. Junior high school thinking
@silverwolflucky i totaly agree with you, i watched first episode of season 4, story was quite interesting but what just spoiled it for me was all that "lets make gwen a wonder woman" thing,
i swear damn RTD HATES ianto.
i mean think about it
all through season one and two, gwen was trying to get with jack (and RTD even ADMITTED gwen is his fave character etc) and then obv they put him with ianto.
RTD was going to kill off Ianto INSTEAD OF OWEN in season two (obv that didnt go forward) and so, season three was "the right time" for him to die (my ass it was the right time)
if season four becomes the "gwen" show...screw it if im watching that crap...
ianto...we will always love you xx
I was born on the 13th too! So cool.
@silverwolflucky It's possibly for Ianto to come back in the (rumored) season 4 and he'll become this series' Daniel Jackson.
IANTO! D: DON'T GO! D:
ha ha, i agree with you. my head is telling me that Ianto is dead and they're paving the way for a new team, but my heart is hoping and wishing that he will come back!
@jackthayer you're so right
I love that Euros immediately tries to lighten the mood
Wow. I'm glad to find out Jack tried to put some of his own lifeforce into Ianto at the end, because that's what I thought he did. He had done it before, what was it, in Cyberwoman? And the way they say it even make it more sad. Jack was too late.
John is so cute! I love his laugh! =3
Oh godamnit
thanx for this one, really appreciated :)
seems JB still is really is into this (after this long time since shooting)
...means he can comprehend some of those Fan-Feelings about this charackter (and YES its only a charakter) dying.
meanwhile I'm fine with everything they did to TW so far...
Another, even better season will be great too!
ITS SO SAAAADD.
@LondonSkiies that is an awesome plot line!!!! I wish they'd do it =(
@DontBeSadBeRadd I guess I am going to watching Supernatural, Thanks Russell T Davies for the shout out to my new favorite show.
@bombshellblonde544 jack is back and there is one episode when my fangirl heart was just so happy, but well you need to watch it, its really good,
omg torchwood at comiccon
lol jhon playin a trick on eve! xDD i laughed out loud hearing that!
@mrsholloway77 But it will still be Russell and Julie in control :) and John Barrowman ...and they have said that it will be within the canon , a continuation of the last 3 seasons and it will be darker ...and It's two teams trying to work together to stop an alien treat..one team is Gwen and Jack, the other two americans. and Torchwood has become a legend..so I'm thinking it's a few years after COE. But I will still miss Janto best romantic couple,Hope Jack goes to his grave or something :)
Did you know that the name of the character (Ianto) phonetically sounds in Spanish like the word "cry" ? ("llanto" in Spanish) . Estrange..
well done characters do die all the time in fiction but all of the people who want ianto back only do it because they understand the relationship between jack and ianto. they feel all the pain and heartache that jack went through because they began to grow an emotional attachment to ianto i want them all back . bring them all back IS a writer taking risks because they could lose alot of veiwers by doing so but they have already lost alot by killing them i of course value your opinion :)
In doctor who how season 5 starts compleatly new. No mention of rose or donna or anything!! They compleatly renew it. I dont want that to happen with torchwood. I dont want them to get a bunch of new people and jsut start again D: PLEASE BEING IANTO BACK!! I really wish ianto didnt die. I jsut watched the death scene before watching this. And already being in tears, when I heard jack say that when he kissed him he tryed to save him. I cryed so much more. IANTO!! WHY DID YOU TAKE HIM AWAY D:
I can't help buy wonder if RTD was somehow jealous of the young beautiful JB, and how JB was able to interact so closely with the hot GDL, who RTD wrote about in his book as such a hot young man.
@silverwolflucky I want a fucking Ianto show!! Like in Doctor Who where Rory was revived as a plastic centurion, Ianto could be something like that... a plastic... um... or metal... thingy. Like a pimp from the 70's, or a robotic tudor who never dies and has lasers in his eyes and guns in his ass... or hands.
I love how he calls himself a fangeek.
I still haven't worked up the courage to watch CoE...I got through season 1+2, then saw CoE was next, and I just stopped...
I'm trying to picture John Barrowman with a handlebar moustache...
My mom was born on Friday the 13th, too!
@1963Daleks D:
@wiezyczkowata Did they? Please tell me Jack at least came back. I haven't gotten to watch it yet, but if Jack isn't back I refuse to watch the series. Jack belongs there, and nowhere else
@LondonSkiies Ugh yess. I'm iffy about watching the 4th season for bringing in new cast...if they did that, I would go find the writer and kiss him/her right on the lips. (also, I already pretend CoE never happen :D)
i can't wait to see the gwen show!!!
yay martha n mickey! lol i SO hope so!!!
YESSS! that would be THE BEST! or like in the season 1 finale of DW gwen could absorb the time vortex, then bring ianto back to life so he would live forever (like jack x3) and then she would kiss jack, energy transfer jack dies comes back blah blah blah AND THEN SOME YUMMY JANTO!
I need therapy now
CAN YOU BELIEVE SOMEONE SAID THANK GOD HES DEAD!! DDDDD= Im freaking dying of tears over here!!
:(
I'm still waiting for RTD to get Yewtree'd. Something not quite right about him.
LOL!!! that is very funny!!! XD
sad
Although I think let bygones be bygones, is it really good to write main characters off over and over again? It looks like a one trick pony to me. Writers can still write good stories without killing main characters, like Doctor Who or other classic series.
John Barrowman is startign to look like JAson David Frank and I mean now not when he first satrted playbe the green ranger.
@LondonSkiies Worst part is that that won't happen. The description for Series 4 is "the only thing that could bring Jack back to earth is his unstated love for Gwen" ):< BOOOOOOOOO!
YOu can watch up to day 3 then be like me and refuse...LOL with out day 3 Ianto is still alive
@LondonSkiies I'm sorry but that to me would cheapen the sacrifice Ianto made
Everybody, don't hate on Gwen, she was a good character. So was Ianto. That's really all it is. Good characters.
And gripping and horrifying but somehow it just missed it's mark and i have no idea why. I really really want to like Torchwood because i like Jack but somehow its just not grabbing me the way Doctor Who has.
Because no companions have ever died in Doctor Who. ;)
Reading all these comments, I feel the need to defend the writers. I cried and hated when Ianto died, but that's what writers have to do. They create lovable characters that the audience will cherish, then put them in the worst situations. They took him away because everybody wanted him to continue living. So good move on the writers part, and I hope they don't bring him back otherwise his death would be useless.
I only have one request: Please don't make a new 'eye candy' for Jack!!
probably arguing with Satan.
That's weird. I never actually thought Jack was kissing him to revive him. To me, it was like a goodbye... ? (or maybe my tears were to thick and I didn't see properly).
I'm sure Gwen will make a new team with Lois and some new man we don't know. She'll get into trouble, and Jack will come back to save the day.
And Ianto should stay dead. bUt a flashback would be nice... I'll miss GDL.
The next series is going to be written by American writers.
Bye bye, British Torchwood.
Hello, Americanised rubbish.
x_x
Couldn't help but laugh at the overblown backlash Ianto's death received, a show run by Russell T. Davies is fairly unlikely to be discriminatory towards gay people. I thought it was brilliant, an unexpected shock in the middle of Children of Earth, well performed by both actors and beautifully sad.