EPIC Grand Finals - $5000 Reaver Rush! STARCRAFT 1 vs STARCRAFT 2

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

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  • @WinterStarcraft
    @WinterStarcraft  Před měsícem +207

    Jimmy screwed up on posting early before the video finished processing, so the first viewers will get the chance to experience this epic finals in glorious, nostalgic and lore accurate 360p quality!

    • @thingmabobby
      @thingmabobby Před měsícem +16

      Dammit Jimmy!

    • @marinav3905
      @marinav3905 Před měsícem +11

      Lol, just spent the last few minutes trying to figure out if it was just me 😂 Thanks, Jimmy

    • @carlthegamer9215
      @carlthegamer9215 Před měsícem +1

      Lmfao, i was gonna say exactly that.

    • @THEonelikeantiher0
      @THEonelikeantiher0 Před měsícem +4

      Jimmy ffs.

    • @ShikiKhorinthian
      @ShikiKhorinthian Před měsícem +4

      Will he be forced to watch Protoss vs Protoss for 24h again as punishment? 🥶

  • @HighGroovyy
    @HighGroovyy Před měsícem +53

    This seems so fully fleshed out and very natural to watch. As a Starcraft 2 enthusiast and a mere Starcraft 1 dabbler, this was so refreshing to watch! Shout out Winter for being able to cast such different games!

    • @radred609
      @radred609 Před měsícem +2

      It's so interesting seeing the different designs interacting in the same engine.

  • @HighGroovyy
    @HighGroovyy Před měsícem +62

    The most important part of this mod: Winter gets to voice FLYING queens

    • @catbert7
      @catbert7 Před měsícem +6

      ...If they ever make any ;p

    • @missbelled6700
      @missbelled6700 Před měsícem +5

      "back before the war I could fly / ok brenda lets get you back onto creep" is my favorite sc2 meme so this is huge lmfao

  • @user-st4xl9mn4h
    @user-st4xl9mn4h Před měsícem +65

    I spent my school days watching SC1 tournaments on my cell phone. I had to download the videos overnight and re-encode them to play them back on my phone... at 160p. This is a lore accurate rendition of SC1 games.

  • @ShikiKhorinthian
    @ShikiKhorinthian Před měsícem +28

    Hell yeah SC1 like it was meant to be watched
    In 360P

  • @BalrogLOTR2001
    @BalrogLOTR2001 Před měsícem +11

    Winter: saw a random cow in one of the maps.
    Winter: "they didn't tell me your mother was coming..."
    me: insta coffee spit! lol..

  • @hortexpert5272
    @hortexpert5272 Před měsícem +8

    "Dark sticking to the normal playbook, that is, setting the playbook on fire and throwing the ashes in his opponents' faces." 😂🤝🙌

    • @catbert7
      @catbert7 Před měsícem

      Pocket ash! 🔥💨

  • @Ben-bs6qv
    @Ben-bs6qv Před měsícem +72

    🛡️ Spoiler Shield 🛡️

  • @Owlr4ider
    @Owlr4ider Před měsícem +7

    I'm shocked Trap completely ignored the Corsair, considering that this unit has always been the backbone of PvZ strategies in Broodwars, whether it's Corsair + Reaver or Corsair + Dark Templars which were hands down the 2 main PvZ strategies.

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX Před 53 minutami +1

      Scourge are much stronger with starcraft 2 targeting, and he did build cosairs, they were worse than pheonix

    • @Owlr4ider
      @Owlr4ider Před 6 minutami +1

      @@NeostormXLMAX Corsairs worse than Phoenix? Are you for real? You do realize Corsairs had a much higher attack speed and also a small AoE right...? Also Disruption Web is not to be underestimated at all.

  • @dominanoctis388
    @dominanoctis388 Před měsícem +7

    Love what you did there, switching from terrible terrible damage to (power) overwhelming damage😆😆

  • @marinav3905
    @marinav3905 Před měsícem +4

    I've never been more grateful for Winter's detailed commentary. Feels like I'm watching this without my glasses 🧐

  • @marchlion6008
    @marchlion6008 Před měsícem +3

    LMFAO "you can't let the zerg in, they're not sending their best" had me rolling 47:15

  • @otbricki
    @otbricki Před měsícem +7

    "I digress" - your digressions are the best part.

  • @robrechtds
    @robrechtds Před měsícem +3

    Thanks for this Winter, I was hesitant at first for SC1 vs SC2, but it's so cool! The SC1 sound effects (e.g. zergling attacks) are pure nostalgia.

    • @benismann
      @benismann Před měsícem +1

      never played sc1, but the hatchery completion sound is.... something

    • @chrishaywood2458
      @chrishaywood2458 Před měsícem

      You should hear the Overlords when you move them around. It's not very gross but heavily iconic. ​@@benismann

  • @Haigotron
    @Haigotron Před měsícem +6

    Brood wars: Reavers are clutch
    SC1 vs SC2: Reavers are clutch

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX Před 47 minutami +1

      Reavers are broken due to auto targeting in star craft 2

  • @hieunguyenminh5738
    @hieunguyenminh5738 Před měsícem +2

    frustrating to see Trap whiffed his oppotunity to do the maelstrom + storm combo in that first game

  • @Appletank8
    @Appletank8 Před měsícem +4

    I'm like 90% sure the Protoss answer to Hydras is mass Cannons and Storm. Though I'm not sure how well SC2 Protoss can get Storm. Maybe Trap needed to just get more army when he saw Dark massing Hydras.

    • @TheRealCalPerr
      @TheRealCalPerr Před měsícem +1

      @@Appletank8 storm is the standard answer to 4-hatch hydra but zerg tend to try and hit before it's ready so it ends up being mass cannons and zealots. Reaver/disruptor can work too

  • @metarmored
    @metarmored Před měsícem +3

    this was a blast to watch! i just found your chanel last month, and started playing sc2 thanks to you

    • @stalwart56k
      @stalwart56k Před měsícem

      Bless you my child. I've been playing since 1997.

  • @Seisure33
    @Seisure33 Před 29 dny

    i love a crisp, maxed graphics demo, not to mention the casting :x

  • @personpeoplehime
    @personpeoplehime Před měsícem +11

    Petition to rename the game Darkcraft 2

  • @scottevensen2615
    @scottevensen2615 Před měsícem

    32:22 the Reavers! Such devastation! 👌😤🔥

  • @christopherpatricklizares5306
    @christopherpatricklizares5306 Před měsícem +1

    Looking at the other comments, I'm really happy to be watching this three hours after it came out. In glorious high definition.

  • @weaponizedemoticon1131
    @weaponizedemoticon1131 Před měsícem +2

    I do like that the balance actually seems pretty on point, even at the professional level!

    • @Gardstyle35
      @Gardstyle35 Před měsícem

      have you watched the same games as i did?

    • @benismann
      @benismann Před měsícem

      early game for sc1 races seems rough. Dark literally full walls as ZERG in both games he wins

    • @Gardstyle35
      @Gardstyle35 Před měsícem

      @@benismann sc1 was just a better game, more about fights lets about turtleling and gimmicky units

    • @benismann
      @benismann Před měsícem

      @@Gardstyle35 it's the exact opposite

    • @Gardstyle35
      @Gardstyle35 Před měsícem +1

      @@benismann no lol, i played it for years. Take PVT for example, constantly terra building up and protoss tearing it down. Greatest matchup in history - today its about a stupid mine drop that if hit shoots once into your worker line means you probably lost...

  • @TheGreenRoundBirb
    @TheGreenRoundBirb Před měsícem +5

    Let us enjoy this starcraft match together❤❤

  • @LUX711
    @LUX711 Před měsícem +2

    Do a video explaining the differences btw SC1 & SC2 units. I’m lost looking at these SC1 units like what do they even do

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Před měsícem +5

      Here's a simple overview, check SC BW liquid wiki for more details
      Terran
      Marines: Basically the same, but with less HP, and slightly stronger Stim
      Medic: Medevac on the ground, comes out much earlier, gives Bio a strong early game boost
      Firebat: Ye Olde Hellbat. Less HP than Marauders, Anti-light instead of Armored.
      Ghost: Extremely fragile unit but carries Nukes and Lockdown, I-Matrix that also stuns.
      Vulture: Ye Olde Hellion. Single target attack instead of splash, carries 3 mines that does 120 anti-armor damage each.
      Tank: Basically the same, but 2 supply
      Goliath: anti-air generalist
      Dropship: It transports, kinda slow.
      Wraith: Cloaked harrasment unit, but does much more AA than AG damage
      Valkyrie: Anti-"fighter" air specialist via Splash damage. Less useful on high HP, high armor units.
      Battlecruiser: more Hp, more damage, lower ROF, very slow. Carries Yamato
      Science vessel: detector, spellcaster. D-Matrix: gives allied unit 200HP shield. Irradiate: ~250 DOT against biological. EMP: Wipes all shield and energy in AOE, projectile slow.
      Protoss
      Zealot: slower, but more HP
      Dragoon: slower, more range, more HP, slightly better damage.
      High Templar: Caster, Storm does 112 damage, Hallucinate.
      Archon: 2 HT, shorter range
      Dark Templar: Same but no teleport
      Dark Archon: 2 DTs, caster. Maelstrom: stuns any bio unit for 9 seconds. Feedback: same thing
      Reaver: Disruptors but much higher ROF and much lower movement speed. costs money per shot.
      Shuttle: it transports
      Observer: same thing, but not "siege" mode.
      Scout: similar to Wraith, but with more HP instead of cloak. Strong AA, weak AG. Very expensive. Similar in usage to Void Rays.
      Corsair: Protoss counterpart to Valkyries
      Carrier: basically the same
      Arbiter: passive cloak field, Recall similar to Mothership Recall, Stasis: freezes units for 40 seconds
      Zerg
      Zergling: slightly more DPS
      Hydra: lower HP, lower cost, slightly less damage, 1 supply
      Mutalisk: basically the same but no regen
      Scourge: flying single target Baneling
      Lurker: Morphs from Hydra, less range and HP
      Queen: flying spellcaster. Parasite: enemy unit gives vision, single target perma Revelation. Ensnare: slows movement and ROF in AOE. Infest CC: Turns 50% or lower HP CC into Infested CC that make Infested Terrans, which do 500 dmg on death. Expensive, fragile, not very fast.
      Guardian: Morphs from Muta, siege AG unit, but fragile and lower DPS than BLs
      Devourer: Morphs from Muta: reduces armor and ROF against air, slow ROF itself.
      Defiler: spellcaster, Consume: eats any 1 unit for 50 energy. Dark Swarm: Reduces all ranged attacks to 0, doesn't work against spells or splash damage. Plague: does 300 dmg or until unit is down to 1 HP in an AOE

    • @benismann
      @benismann Před měsícem +1

      someone should make a video on that

  • @tylerkahle332
    @tylerkahle332 Před měsícem +1

    I like the suit coat. The most professional Winter caster

  • @IsThisHandleTaken
    @IsThisHandleTaken Před měsícem

    Damn I love seeing the old school units make the difference! It is so goddamn cool that top tier players are doing this. Reavers are just a work of art.

  • @ja31ya
    @ja31ya Před měsícem

    "and snow globes" -- absolutely killed me 😂

  • @hexaquras9374
    @hexaquras9374 Před měsícem +1

    if this get more and more popular soon we'll have that flash vs serral in the future
    HOPIUM

  • @Beep2bleep
    @Beep2bleep Před měsícem

    I have to admit I really like the sport coat. It's amazing how an outfit really changes perception.

  • @tonydeveyra4611
    @tonydeveyra4611 Před měsícem +2

    I get that much of the hype behind SC:Evo is pitting BW races against SC2 races, but I think they should show matches of BW races vs BW races, too. Merely being in the SC2 engine makes BW races feel like an entirely new, fresh game.

  • @junhaozhang6915
    @junhaozhang6915 Před měsícem +1

    I LOOOVE these! Love proper pros on this!!!!!

  • @sursurrus
    @sursurrus Před měsícem +1

    I've heard that too much screen time can lead to memory loss, blackouts, schizophrenia, multiple personality, and eventually talking like Winter's grandmother

  • @kbab679
    @kbab679 Před měsícem +1

    Watching SC1 Protoss beat SC2 Zerg was satisfying!

  • @BarringtonDrive
    @BarringtonDrive Před měsícem

    They animated the blue splatterdeath of the dragoons! So cool!

  • @jimmyha1898
    @jimmyha1898 Před měsícem

    This was an amazing tournament. Awesome games. I hope there are more tournaments like this.

  • @Ocean_magic_om
    @Ocean_magic_om Před 23 dny

    omg i love this so much! we need a ladder for this!

  • @iwakuralain3064
    @iwakuralain3064 Před měsícem +1

    Darks damage estimation seems a little off against sc1 units

  • @Mrhealy0girl
    @Mrhealy0girl Před 17 dny

    Lmao. The "STFU!" @ susan 😂

  • @davidstud3952
    @davidstud3952 Před měsícem +1

    oh no I wanted to see PLAGUE so badly

  • @oponomo
    @oponomo Před měsícem +6

    Feels to me that the sc1 races are very limited in strategy compared to 2. The game loop is always the same.

    • @daPawlak
      @daPawlak Před měsícem

      I guess we will see once meta settles, it's sc2 engine, sc2 races get everything they have, with sc1 it's just a kind of similar to actual game, in reality it is a new thing that sc1 players need to figure out.
      In actual sc1 there are much more strategies, but this comes from a lot of stuff like control limitations of old game.

  • @byebyeblue
    @byebyeblue Před měsícem +1

    Really Love this mod, hope the modder can balance it out.

    • @llamadelreyii3369
      @llamadelreyii3369 Před měsícem

      The way people react to any attempt to make the SC1 more viable, i doubt

  • @elgar7252
    @elgar7252 Před měsícem

    Unfortunately didn't get to see much of it here, but I enjoy the larger map aspect of the SC1 maps with SC2 races. It feels like it forces the armies to split up more and fight on 3 or 4 fronts with smaller groups.
    I understand that would be horrible for Zerg early-game in Sc2 but, still like it.
    Also how busted would SC2 Protoss be if you replaced Disruptors with Reavers? 😂

  • @hanarielgodlike9283
    @hanarielgodlike9283 Před měsícem +1

    Emotional support force fields 😂😂😂

  • @ProdigalGun
    @ProdigalGun Před měsícem +1

    Petition to change Dark's name from The Final Boss to the Kool-Aid Man

  • @FirstName-nf4fx
    @FirstName-nf4fx Před měsícem

    @30:03 I sure hope that scout makes it out okay... looks like low hp wonder if it's gonna make it?
    WinterStarcraft: busy with his exhausting bit.

  • @catbert7
    @catbert7 Před měsícem

    12:50: My disappointment is immense and my day is ruined.
    28:55: That was so perfect xD
    31:08: Was there a tribe sacrificing cattle to a T-Rex on this planet? 🤔
    39:12: **BREAKING: Trap trapped in own trap!**
    SO happy that this mod is getting a tourny! It makes the game so much more interesting!

  • @Royalgecko-zp8zd
    @Royalgecko-zp8zd Před měsícem

    snow globes XD love seeing the sc1 vs sc2 content!

  • @evshrug
    @evshrug Před měsícem +3

    Woo! In before 480p resolution and above, haha!

  • @darkbut8864
    @darkbut8864 Před měsícem +1

    The Final Boss does what the Final Boss knows what to do kill the enemy, sad that he will go to army.

  • @davidbai3543
    @davidbai3543 Před měsícem +1

    they shoulda added the hybrid as a playable race in sc2 IMO

    • @weaponizedemoticon1131
      @weaponizedemoticon1131 Před měsícem

      I still want the critters to become a faction.
      The Karak need their revenge!

    • @PJOZeus
      @PJOZeus Před měsícem

      What workers? What buildings? No not an option

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Před měsícem

      That would basically require making everything from scratch

  • @paulembleton1733
    @paulembleton1733 Před měsícem

    Suffering Winter’s commentary is a little bit better than suffering….um, just suffering.

  • @carllazarraga2858
    @carllazarraga2858 Před měsícem

    Dark didnt even attempt to use queens, defilers or lurkers in that second game lol. He just made disrupter food.

  • @yertter
    @yertter Před měsícem

    Plz cast all this stuff, love it🎉

  • @TheOrganicartist
    @TheOrganicartist Před měsícem

    once again i liked the video because of your intro, thanks for reminding my adhd brain.

  • @Mike-fl3zx
    @Mike-fl3zx Před měsícem

    Hoping this will be the beginning for a Startcraft 4 game based on multiverse or time travel.

    • @PJOZeus
      @PJOZeus Před měsícem

      no thanks, marvel can keep that garbage

  • @squigglessquiggles8126
    @squigglessquiggles8126 Před měsícem

    Hey just to let you know I like watching you with my kids because you are family friendly and you are not cringe.

  • @turbozed
    @turbozed Před měsícem +1

    This must be the other EVO mod with SC1 graphics instead

  • @kelmorian178
    @kelmorian178 Před měsícem

    Sc1 Zealot in sc2 walking animation looks similar to Karax LOTV.

  • @lorddryp
    @lorddryp Před měsícem

    Starcraft 1 Archon model is amazing! Much better than SC2. And the unit seems to be stroger with higher speed attack.

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 Před měsícem +1

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

  • @arandomperson8336
    @arandomperson8336 Před měsícem

    Dark is the final boss of everything

  • @SawyerKnight
    @SawyerKnight Před měsícem

    I cant Get Enough.

  • @KirbyGotenksabsorbed

    6:14 SC1 archons are so much cooler-looking.

  • @igap7707
    @igap7707 Před měsícem +2

    I'm so early only the 360p version is available :D

  • @LordMephilis
    @LordMephilis Před měsícem

    Woohoo! I do like me a good ol Hydra bust!

  • @Gorre022
    @Gorre022 Před měsícem

    Man these sc1 skins look incredible 🤩 those mootas

  • @user-mv2nn6rw2w
    @user-mv2nn6rw2w Před měsícem

    A +2 BW hydra does the same dps against light units as a +0 unstimmed SC2 marine. They're both slower, and have less hp per resource cost than marines.
    I'm pretty sure SC2 chargelots will wreck them, and it wouldn't even be close.

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 Před měsícem +2

      Per resource cost but not per population, since they are a 1 population unit, about half the cost of a stalkers. And yes, zealots countered hyrdas in SC1 as well, but only in smaller numbers. In the later parts of the game, zerglings and lurkers become the meat of the army.

  • @HighGroovyy
    @HighGroovyy Před měsícem

    Thank you so much for this

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 Před měsícem

    Hmm. StarCart 1 and 2 combined? Then let's add WarCraft races into StarCraft engine!

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan Před měsícem

    Can SC2 Protoss trade disruptors for reavers please?
    It makes so much more sense with how much faster units move in SC2.

  • @bigtruck1838
    @bigtruck1838 Před měsícem +1

    I'm here yet again to make my day a little bit better... and who wouldn't when we have banter by the Karen Brenda and Susan

  • @prismaticbeetle3194

    SC1 zerg are just so powerful

  • @Justthemow
    @Justthemow Před měsícem

    0:44 if it’s really star craft one can he merge the two archons together to make a dark arc on and mind control a drone and run two different races simultaneously

  • @MattAlexander-do2od
    @MattAlexander-do2od Před měsícem

    "he takes the hydra-risk"

  • @spacewindu3824
    @spacewindu3824 Před měsícem

    That's awesome

  • @NeostormXLMAX
    @NeostormXLMAX Před hodinou

    Scourge would be op with starcraft 2 targeting, same with reavers

  • @fongtaiyuk1462
    @fongtaiyuk1462 Před měsícem

    Smashing that Like button!

  • @TheRealCalPerr
    @TheRealCalPerr Před měsícem +1

    BW ZvZ is just muta micro contest, very consistent.
    4-hatch hydra bust is a very standard BW build in ZvP
    I don't remember the other questions and I don't feel like re-watching it

  • @ChrisMarcScott
    @ChrisMarcScott Před měsícem

    31:08 wait is that a cow..

  • @gringopotato8564
    @gringopotato8564 Před měsícem

    I'm surprised you haven't name this Video . ''This NEW* reaver drop strategy is insanely strong'' .... LOL

  • @Fanaro
    @Fanaro Před měsícem

    I love Zerg, but even I go like "how is this not cheating?" when I see Defilers.

  • @ConroyMatheson
    @ConroyMatheson Před měsícem

    Oah the Zerg won a starcraft tourney? :P

  • @yyl917cn
    @yyl917cn Před měsícem

    I want Starcarft 1 vs Starcraft 1 in SC2

  • @arankoka
    @arankoka Před měsícem

    how does "explosive" damage work for example goons?
    or the other damage from vultures?
    how does it calculate, does someone know?

  • @Haxses.
    @Haxses. Před měsícem

    Wew more evo!

  • @ZC.Andrew
    @ZC.Andrew Před měsícem +1

    Even the weaker wet-noodle Hydralisks still annihilate Stalkers 😂

  • @Kesvalk
    @Kesvalk Před měsícem

    man, i wish that blizzard would put SC2 on steam.

  • @DuppyBoii187
    @DuppyBoii187 Před měsícem

    Cool of dark to play sc1 zerg

  • @bothpinkysbroken
    @bothpinkysbroken Před měsícem

    Nice

  • @varencilator
    @varencilator Před měsícem +1

    i got here fast

  • @Nelson_.A
    @Nelson_.A Před měsícem

    Remember when Dark used to make macro hatcheries ...

  • @VeryBadPlayerTV
    @VeryBadPlayerTV Před měsícem

    Been saying it for a very long time. Since the mod released. Please just add it to the base game, and add patches. This alone could save the game. Add other mechanics to the game or other fun things maybe make "seasons" out of it where we can try some wild shit for like 2-3 months and revert it after the small season is over. See what helps the game get better and what made it worse.

    • @benismann
      @benismann Před měsícem +1

      imagine blizzard putting any work into this game lol

    • @VeryBadPlayerTV
      @VeryBadPlayerTV Před měsícem

      @@benismann They really don't have to put a lot of work in, just port the mod. The game at this point is dead because of the community itself. Winter has said it himself the balance counsel just doesn't agree on changes, nothing about this game changes, and theres no reason to come back. Because its the same exact game 0 changes.

  • @laszlobebesi4186
    @laszlobebesi4186 Před měsícem

    why not use corsairs agains those mutas at min 10-12?

  • @famouscharactersplay4298
    @famouscharactersplay4298 Před měsícem +1

    Day 15: Where is my Brenda T-Shirt, "Get off my CREEP!"

  • @pasoapasoconmervo6734
    @pasoapasoconmervo6734 Před měsícem

    It is posible to play sc1 vs sc1 in sc2?? cus everything i see is sc1 vs sc2 matches. It would be great to see sc1 matches in sc2

    • @DermoNONE
      @DermoNONE Před měsícem +1

      It is possible, the last match was blind pick both could have picked SC1 or SC2 version of their race. But yeah, would be fun to see more SC1 vs SC1 matchups on this mod.

  • @ILOVEDRAGO
    @ILOVEDRAGO Před měsícem

    Finally you damn dutch 😀👍, MAKE MORE EVO VIDS!! 😡

  • @joshuaher8386
    @joshuaher8386 Před měsícem

    Is this mod on custom melee? I would like to try it out with my buddies.

  • @PashaSlavaUkraine
    @PashaSlavaUkraine Před měsícem

    I think the player cards should have the flag of their country on the top right of their battle cards. 💳

  • @elimosh3898
    @elimosh3898 Před 18 dny

    Hi, where can I download this map/mode ?