How to Use ATAK with Meshtastic

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Komentáře • 532

  • @thatwierdkiduknow
    @thatwierdkiduknow Před 2 lety +407

    Socal_offgrid would have made you buy one of his "classes" to learn this. God bless S2_underground and fuck charging for critical information.

    • @hajduk_lives
      @hajduk_lives Před 2 lety +38

      Doesn’t he charge like 100 bucks for a Meshtastic board with a colorful 3D printed case? Dude is a Choad.

    • @thatwierdkiduknow
      @thatwierdkiduknow Před 2 lety +13

      @@hajduk_lives an absolute looser

    • @beholdbehold
      @beholdbehold Před 2 lety +32

      It's just a tax on people who don't know how to research and use the internet themselves lol. But bless S2 non the less.

    • @rdsmith334
      @rdsmith334 Před 2 lety +20

      @@beholdbehold Well that's a pretty asinine statement. There's a lot of us that have families, run businesses, and don't have spare hours to research on the internet. And yes, I'll happily pay a "tax" for that knowledge/equipment, as long as my time is more valuable than the price being charged.

    • @thatwierdkiduknow
      @thatwierdkiduknow Před 2 lety +17

      @@beholdbehold I'd agree if it weren't for the fact the man will never tell you what you're looking at, what it does, or why it's important. It's childish, everything is purposely obscured so that he can make more money.

  • @Meshtastic
    @Meshtastic Před 2 lety +114

    ATAK and Meshtastic forever! Thanks for this great video!

  • @NeverMetTheGuy
    @NeverMetTheGuy Před 2 lety +483

    I don't even know what you're talking about most of the time at this point, but I'm still watching, listening, and learning. You're doing God's work, bro.

    • @danielboatright8887
      @danielboatright8887 Před 2 lety +26

      Basicaly, a circut board that runs a radio, conect it to a cellphone and you can use apps configured for this to send text data between the circut boards to the phone, and person, attached to each.

    • @EntryLevelLuxury
      @EntryLevelLuxury Před 2 lety +3

      But what does it use to relay, satellite?

    • @waylonk2453
      @waylonk2453 Před 2 lety +4

      @@danielboatright8887 The real question I am investigating is if you can join the conversation with a DMR radio

    • @p_ecora6647
      @p_ecora6647 Před 2 lety

      Me at school

    • @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947
      @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947 Před 2 lety +5

      @@waylonk2453 no these are analog..old school..dmr may come but not yet

  • @joeyperez8581
    @joeyperez8581 Před 2 lety +73

    As a ham radio guy with a bunch of static and mobile gear, I have to say : this idea is f......n
    outstanding for those in my tribe that can't afford ham radio gear, and don't have time or desire to learn, mostly our better halves. Be blessed little bro, with much wisdom and goodness.

    • @thopkins2271
      @thopkins2271 Před 2 lety +15

      Also a ham guy…but the fact that these use bonafide aes 256 is a solid win.

  • @AlanMcYou
    @AlanMcYou Před 7 měsíci +19

    That "low probability of intercept" becomes much higher when the power goes out. Most of the "cover" will lose power. That leaves the battery powered meshtastic nodes much more visible.

  • @MichaelBurko
    @MichaelBurko Před 2 lety +44

    Great video! Would be great to see you setting up actual lora board from scratch, installing/setting up Meshtastic and putting it in a case.

    • @narref04
      @narref04 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes please. The pre-made all in one boards are all sold out. Would love to see the set up of a few diff boards to see how to set these up as standalone boards.

  • @paulmandal1437
    @paulmandal1437 Před 2 lety +111

    Thank you for making this video and bringing more attention to ATAK and Meshtastic.
    One important note on Bluetooth: Meshtastic devices can connect to a phone via a USB OTG cable, Meshtastic and the ATAK plugin both support this type of connection so you can eliminate the need for Bluetooth if necessary.
    I'm really happy to see all the interest from SAR people, I'm an experienced hiker but anyone can have an emergency in the backcountry and need rescue. We appreciate you and the lifesaving work that you do.

    • @davidbeckwith3863
      @davidbeckwith3863 Před 2 lety +8

      This is exactly what I was thinking about to eliminate the BT issue. I know the meshtastic devices can do micro USB (and phones obviously too) but haven't actually tried it.

  • @Venom2U
    @Venom2U Před 2 lety +115

    As a side note on solar charging of your relay nodes. A single 18650 bat of +- 1500 mAh will provide +- 3 days of power (with moderate use). If your operational needs only encompass a day or two. No need to add solar. However, if you're setting up semi-permanent nodes around your city/operational area solar is a must. Just so you don't have to visit each node to replace batteries. Fortunately, a lot of the leg work has already been done on the meshtastic forum. There are a bunch of cheep/easy solutions to make your relay nodes "hands off" once installed. Just remember RF propagation is heavily dependent on 2 factors. #1 Antenna performance #2 Line of sight obstructions. So place your nodes as high up as you can. And place extra nodes in areas with line-of-sight obstructions. (Buildings ECT)

    • @PracticalTacticalSheepDog
      @PracticalTacticalSheepDog Před 2 lety +3

      Link to meshtastic forum?

    • @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947
      @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947 Před 2 lety +1

      Do tell about the solar. I have 3 of these nodes ready to go...another issue i keep having is that the network name keeps changing .

    • @megahurts2
      @megahurts2 Před 2 lety +6

      I have yet to confirm, but I think these boards allow for passthrough charging and if so..
      Step 1.) Connect Solar
      Step 2.) Profit!
      Step 3.) Send messages
      If not...then a battery bank with passthrough charging is a must.

    • @PracticalTacticalSheepDog
      @PracticalTacticalSheepDog Před 2 lety +4

      @@megahurts2 probably would be wise to use protected 18650 cells

    • @WardenWolf
      @WardenWolf Před 2 lety +2

      FYI, the BigBlue folding 63W solar charger is a great option for charging a phone in the field. Weighs 2 pounds and folds into a very convenient pack. I crafted PVC frame for it with $10 worth of PVC and attached it with velcro cable ties.

  • @airjer18
    @airjer18 Před 2 lety +48

    Ive gotten 5 miles p2p from tbeams in a large city with one tbeam on top of my house and one on a pole on the back of my truck with the stock cheapy antennas.

    • @niteshad9
      @niteshad9 Před 2 lety

      Do you have an estimate for the heights above ground, for each of these antennas?

    • @PracticalTacticalSheepDog
      @PracticalTacticalSheepDog Před 2 lety

      Which frequency? 915 or 923?

    • @AndroSpud
      @AndroSpud Před 2 lety +4

      We got close to 35 miles in the suburbs. Both antenna where set at at least 12 feet off the ground

    • @taylors1545
      @taylors1545 Před 2 lety

      I wonder if a flag pole could make for a good antenna with minimal aesthetic modification.

    • @gastonbarouille767
      @gastonbarouille767 Před měsícem

      Could you transmit voice messages like in Zello?

  • @antong2413
    @antong2413 Před 2 lety +101

    Because of events in the past 2 years and leading up to the past few days, I've been binge-watching this channel to help prepare myself for a SHTF scenario. I want to thank you for all the knowledge and insight your channel provides.

    • @Crayma800
      @Crayma800 Před rokem

      Okay. SHTF spot test.
      1. What is the main drawback of using third party plane tracking data to observe flight movements?
      2. Name one way a person being detained could escape handcuffs even after their pockets are searched for a handcuff key?
      3. Name one method that could be used to help boost a ham radio signal without the need to put a big antenna up in the air

    • @agentkodeh2476
      @agentkodeh2476 Před rokem +2

      @@Crayma800 the prep got to him hes probably in a ward

    • @jacobholstein
      @jacobholstein Před 5 měsíci

      As You Tuber Lou Valentino says, I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm a conspiracy realist

  • @VladTheSkewerer
    @VladTheSkewerer Před 2 lety +67

    You should try setting up custom secondary channels with PSK on your meshtastic radios and setting the plugin to use that. If you're using the default channel, that data is technically sniffable to any other meshtastic radios with the default channel setup. Unfortunately messaging in a channel outside of the primary is not supported in the android meshtastic app, but I have a feature request in for that.
    It's useful to leave the default primary channel and communicate in a private secondary channel, because your private traffic can relay off other meshtastic nodes without being readable.
    Also, static relay nodes should not contain the configuration for your private channel, in case they get stolen. That PSK/Channel Config should only exist on nodes within direct over site of your team.

    • @waylonk2453
      @waylonk2453 Před 2 lety

      Important considerations. For these reasons, I advocate using a message-capable DMR radio

    • @BobBob-il2ku
      @BobBob-il2ku Před 2 lety

      So if I didn’t own the node but let’s say a neighbor did would mine be able to use it as a “repeater”? Would all that happen without me knowing?

    • @VladTheSkewerer
      @VladTheSkewerer Před 2 lety +1

      @@BobBob-il2ku Yup, that's the intended behavior as stated (deep) in their documentation. Secondary channel packets are encrypted and can relay off other nodes. Those default configured / public nodes that your packet is relaying off of have zero visibility into the data you're sending. I only have two radios currently, and unfortunately nobody else in my area appears to be using meshtastic, so I cant confirm.

    • @BobBob-il2ku
      @BobBob-il2ku Před 2 lety +4

      @@VladTheSkewerer if that’s the case this technology is way more interesting. Someone should make this into a phone cover that clips on your regular phone

    • @VladTheSkewerer
      @VladTheSkewerer Před 2 lety +1

      @@scubabbyy Sorry, I haven't tried using ATAK and the associated plugins, so I can't give you much guidance there. I just know what the meshtastic firmware is capable of and written to do. Worth noting that the meshtastic-android application does not yet support messaging in any other channel but primary. If that plugin uses parts of the meshtastic-android project, that may have carried over as well.

  • @CallofWar5
    @CallofWar5 Před 2 lety +11

    Very nice video. Thanks a bunch for this critical info. Ultimately, having a robust comm plan requires a diversity of equipment and a well thought out plan of execution. Put in the work, reap the rewards

  • @mathewfitzpatrick5645
    @mathewfitzpatrick5645 Před 2 lety +9

    This channel instantly became one of my favorites.

  • @54l68l65l20l47l61l6D
    @54l68l65l20l47l61l6D Před 2 lety +62

    A thing I'll note about the radio direction finding point:
    With many communications protocols (including mesh networks), there are sometimes some unencrypted fields in the packet headers. Sometimes these unencrypted fields can include device addresses (similar to IP and/or MAC addresses in TCP/IP).
    This means that with a direction finding apparatus and a packet sniffer you could correlate device addresses to physical locations. By correlating timing of messages you might be able to find out even more.
    Haven't looked too much into the meshtastic protocol so not sure if this vulnerability exists in this particular instance.
    Just something to consider.

    • @GOTHAM21
      @GOTHAM21 Před rokem +3

      But in an urban area full of 915 MHz IoT devices and other mesh nodes I would think it would make it considerably more difficult to pin poi nt a location.

    • @54l68l65l20l47l61l6D
      @54l68l65l20l47l61l6D Před rokem +13

      @@GOTHAM21 you'd think. but a grep only takes a couple of keystrokes for a skilled operator

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@GOTHAM21 It's pretty easy if you know what you're looking for. Even more so if you can push a ping and wait for the response.

    • @_droid
      @_droid Před 6 měsíci

      Lots of devices work in this band but not many are using LoRa and LoRa's spread spectrum signature is quite easy to spot even knowing nothing about the data being sent.

    • @shanejohns7901
      @shanejohns7901 Před 5 měsíci

      @@GOTHAM21 The unique device ID would make packets from all other locations irrelevant. A sufficiently capable signal analyzer could find the direction any particular device ID is broadcasting from. But they are adding routing across devices that are internet connected, so that will make things a bit more interesting.

  • @tophattommy2
    @tophattommy2 Před 2 lety +5

    This is what I've been looking for! Specifically for our SAR teams! THANK YOU!!!!!!

  • @talesfromthelab
    @talesfromthelab Před 2 lety +31

    Greetings from Germany, Meshtastic (and other) mesh networks are popping up here more and more. I wonder why ;)
    Also one very interesting aspect of ESP32 based meshtastic devices is that you can easily add additional sensors like IR/radar movement detection, gas or sound sensors, which makes it even more versatile.

    • @t3knicality
      @t3knicality Před 2 lety

      I didn't know this. What kinda of data can you get from say the radar or gas sensors? How do you receive it what does the data look like?

    • @surplusdriller1
      @surplusdriller1 Před 2 lety +5

      this is interesting, sound and vibrationsensor burried by an road can allert to tanks or the high pitched sound of an low flying jet from miles away just enough time to get the stinger ready. pitching this to my friends in Ukraine but thay are bussy AF

    • @jamesmiller2096
      @jamesmiller2096 Před rokem +2

      So the kits that come with a raspberry pi I think you have 45 different sensors

    • @michaelsnook6712
      @michaelsnook6712 Před 23 dny

      @@surplusdriller1how do you go about this? And any links for sensors like ir/movement

  • @pulex
    @pulex Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for the very good explanation & tutorial. We are using Meshtastic/ATAK in Airsoft. Needed an option to communicate on fields without LTE/TAK server. Works fine!

  • @brokenarrow9772
    @brokenarrow9772 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing!!!! Love playing with this stuff to add a little force multiplication to my tool kit.

  • @otterc.9337
    @otterc.9337 Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent video. Easy to understand, even for a knuckle dragger like me.

  • @Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia

    its also pretty good for subterranean comms, mesh networking means that you can talk to a base station through multiple relays

    • @SamSung-jq4ho
      @SamSung-jq4ho Před 2 lety

      Hard to get a good GPS signal in a cave though, but it would still work for messaging, and you might be able to infer approximate location based on which nodes can route or hear the signal.

    • @MichaelBransonCoach
      @MichaelBransonCoach Před 2 lety +1

      @@3nertia Wet walls absorb radio signals rather than bounce them.. Just means more relay nodes. You can set a fixed gps position on the node (if you know it underground :))

  • @thopkins2271
    @thopkins2271 Před 2 lety +7

    So…now as a community someone needs to put together a truly durable/watertight enclosure that has a sexy form factor. Because looking cool is half the battle.

  • @claythomas3353
    @claythomas3353 Před 2 lety +4

    A random shortage I have noticed in my area in northern VA is cream cheese. Not that its critical but just interesting. Keep up the good work my friends!

  • @wizwooky5877
    @wizwooky5877 Před 2 lety +1

    I really like your content. Especially the Atak stuff. Thank you and please continue to do more 👍👌

  • @decline6561
    @decline6561 Před 2 lety +1

    The bump in resolution is noticed and very much appreciated!
    (really though just use 720p if your fingers are visible on camera)

  • @CaptainKy
    @CaptainKy Před 4 měsíci

    Absolutely perfect! Dude i have learned more from you then most thanks S2! Always track'n

  • @03forgotten
    @03forgotten Před 2 lety

    I LOVE this channel and the information. Thank you!

  • @doejohn8674
    @doejohn8674 Před 2 lety +6

    Subscribed :) We are playing around with LoRa devices and Meshtastic as a SHTF communication tool with friends in my area. I am also looking into civTAK/ATAK as it looks more flexible then the meshtastic software in the kind of info you can send. Our problem here is geography, we have a bunch of mountains and we mostly live down in the valleys.
    Cheers from Switzerland

  • @arshadmohammed1072
    @arshadmohammed1072 Před 2 lety +44

    This is cool! Seems like it could be pretty useful in coordinating SAR operations. Can't tell you how many times in my country hikers get lost and search teams comprising of just civilians are sent out.

    • @rkadi6540
      @rkadi6540 Před 2 lety +1

      Correct me if im wrong but hiking means walking up to a mountain/hill right? What if you lost connection?

    • @arshadmohammed1072
      @arshadmohammed1072 Před 2 lety +8

      @@rkadi6540 Yup you're right, losing connection is always possibility which is why it shouldn't be the primary tool. But the Meshtastic unit is light enough that I'm thinking it can be lifted on a drone to use as a repeater

    • @aprilk141
      @aprilk141 Před 2 lety +14

      @@rkadi6540 That is correct. Additionally, walking back down a mountain is called un-hiking.

    • @danielboatright8887
      @danielboatright8887 Před 2 lety +4

      From what aive read, atak has allready been used for fighting forest fires

    • @arshadmohammed1072
      @arshadmohammed1072 Před 2 lety

      @@danielboatright8887 That's pretty cool

  • @DZ4295DBW
    @DZ4295DBW Před 2 lety +4

    You can use drones with it as well now. Thats a huge upgrade. Combine that with Beartooth Mk2s or Meshtastic, now youve got instant eyes for those on your network.

  • @colterpaustian9790
    @colterpaustian9790 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm completely nerding out on meshtastic right now and this is further fueling my need for more information

  • @phillipalbert8918
    @phillipalbert8918 Před 2 lety +1

    I wanted to share my ATAK-Civ experience spending numerous hours over the last 12 months.
    This solution works!
    Previous attempts:
    Atak with Gotenna Mesh. No Atak plug-in. Fail. You can purchase pro version but very expensive.
    Atak with Baofeng Radios using Hammer Plugin (Slow vox) with speaker-mic interface cable. Unreliable, fail.
    Atak with Meshtastic (Your solution with Paul’s Atak forwarder plugin). Works Perfectly!
    So far this is the only & best solution I have found for civilian use to date.The data speed for transmitting data such as texts, coordinates, markers & pictures is almost instantaneous! Save yourself a lot of time and frustration with this solution.
    Thank you all for making this work!!!

  • @hikerboyz
    @hikerboyz Před 2 lety +2

    Just keep in mind that the video makes it look easier than it is to start. Matching the right firmware between apps can be an issue as is downloading it in the first place and this is compounded when you must find the right meshtastic firmware to match the frequency of the devices...915Mhz is North American

  • @MrArbitraryNumber
    @MrArbitraryNumber Před 2 lety

    😮 this is awesome. Thanks for all you are doing. Excellent excellent content

  • @ho0t0w1
    @ho0t0w1 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I have a project using Meshtastic repeaters called the Raven system, where I could conceivably load my carrier nodes on scheduled things that are places at specific times, like say... a train... for long range message carrying from city to city, where the packets loaded from A get ferried to C by way of node B which rides rails or maybe 18 wheels 😏 do with that what you will. ❤ love the content bro!

  • @jj01a
    @jj01a Před 2 lety +1

    thank you for these vids, this one is particularly timely - have a number of meshtastic devices being delivered this week(after a long wait). looking forward to seeing what the range and or capabilities are. where did you get the cool cases?
    planning on putting one on a drone(and a small vhf/uhf repeater) to see what kind of range we can get in different environments.
    do you have any recommended map sources, stuff that's a bit more timely than google hybrid?
    how frequently in areas of unrest is the 900mhz band jammed?

  • @joepoloscsu1
    @joepoloscsu1 Před 2 lety +7

    I love your content. Can you do more videos on communications and ATAK? I recently learned of the ability to use a Raspberry Pi server to communicate with baefeng radios/gotennas and Android phones using a combination of ATAK, Mumble, and Zerotier. I would be interested to see a video on this.

  • @ChiefMiddleFinger
    @ChiefMiddleFinger Před 2 lety +1

    Mesh networks are viable and growing. This approach seems more refined and somewhat user friendly.

  • @domvdg
    @domvdg Před 2 lety

    Very nice. Thanks for these kind of educational videos.

  • @ChapsAirborne
    @ChapsAirborne Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video! Getting excited by the possibilities of the system! One question though : Does all meshtastic devices need to be paired with a phone running ATAK? Or can I just monitor a fleet of devices from the same channel using only one ATAK enabled phone? Thank you so much!

  • @hooks4638
    @hooks4638 Před 7 měsíci

    Fyi for everyone, even if you’re not using atak, the meshtastic platform is still VERY useful one its own. You can obviously message node to node but you can also connect sensors to your mesh network. This opens up A LOT of very interesting options.

  • @RomeroFamilyFunChallenge
    @RomeroFamilyFunChallenge Před 2 lety +1

    great option for quietly communicating enemy positions and interception

    • @paulmccollough
      @paulmccollough Před 2 lety

      It’s not quite. It’s open source and easy to detect.

  • @sithticklefingers7255
    @sithticklefingers7255 Před 2 lety

    Good sequel to your last video. Thanks!

  • @narref04
    @narref04 Před 4 měsíci +1

    For everyone like me.... who are noobs at this, i have gone ahead an paid for youtube (for now) and have started to download these vids. Great tutorials, even if im behindnthe curb on getting all the equipment.. esoecially with some of it sold out ATM. If the worst should happen and ive garhered mt equipment, and ill atleast be able to set up the basics here.

  • @ivanadiego6067
    @ivanadiego6067 Před 2 lety +7

    The Motorola T800 walkie talkies have a similar way of working (connected via bluetooth to a smartphone allow to send gps location and text messages) and also can be used for normal radio communication. Obviously the Motorola app is much more basic but it's another option to concider that comes basically ready to use.

    • @327efrain
      @327efrain Před 3 měsíci

      This comment is a godsend. Checking them out now for their ready to use mess plus availability and it’s limited application use probably still meets all of my needs

  • @ireilly2000
    @ireilly2000 Před rokem +3

    to your point about the bluetooth vulnerability- can the lora be wired to the device? is it capable of data transfer in any way other than bluetooth?
    juggernaut cases sell data transfer cables, i just cant find any info on whether lora devices can send/receive this way.

  • @bitkarek
    @bitkarek Před 2 lety

    very well explained, thank you.

  • @JW-fq1pp
    @JW-fq1pp Před 2 lety

    Good video. I know next to nothing about the more high tech stuff (a fudd at heart). But this info is something usable even by me. Thanks!

  • @PreparedOverlander
    @PreparedOverlander Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just downloaded the new version of ATAK plus all the plugins from the App Store, they are work together. I did use two different mesh devices, they worked with Meshtastic app, and they worked well together.
    So far I tried with messages, and sending locations on the map located in ATAK, it worked well.
    I plan to take these out next weekend to the woods to see how they work there.

    • @MerkinSniffer69
      @MerkinSniffer69 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Where did you locate the latest version to side load?

    • @PreparedOverlander
      @PreparedOverlander Před 3 měsíci

      @@MerkinSniffer69 It was given to me through a Meshtastic discord

  • @TekedixXx
    @TekedixXx Před 2 lety +11

    I can think of so many practical real world uses for this tech.
    Put some LoRa devices around your large property, and use ATAK so your family can monitor where you are when you're out working. If you're way up in the woods or out working in a field, and get stuck, or have a medical emergency, it would be easy to send an SOS with GPS location to a home base station to alert your family to help you, no cell reception needed. And if you're incapacitated, your location would still be known.
    Also, out west, it would be a great way for neighbors to track wild fires and coordinate accordingly where there's no cell signal.

  • @seetheious9879
    @seetheious9879 Před 2 lety

    Great information, thank you.

  • @D-Mny
    @D-Mny Před 2 lety

    This is exactly what the military has been working on for the last while.
    Essential all troops are equipped with a device and screen. The only difference is the military version is live / no latency.
    Can be used on conjunction with a headset to see through buildings, structures and vehicles. Also so you k ow who is a friendly and not. Like a video game HUD. Or more similarly the f-35 helmet which allows you to look through you plane. And see what's below you.
    Cool stuff.

  • @niteshad9
    @niteshad9 Před 2 lety +36

    Great video with great content. However, I think some caveats are in order. $25 covers only the electronics board for the hardware, not the case, not the battery, and certainly not the PV/solar panel required for a remote node. Even then, these boards are only $25 each when ordered in quantity (usually in lots of at least 20-30.) I honestly, think that a real-world price per complete, fully operational 915 MHz radio is more like $40-50; still this is far less than competing products on the market. Given that the whole system is open source, extensible, and hackable, I think it's a bargain.

    • @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947
      @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947 Před 2 lety +2

      Yep that's about what it cost me to build with a quality ip65 enclosure and other little bits

    • @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947
      @ghostwalkerairsofttech1947 Před 2 lety +3

      Question is how much is your comms system worth in shtf scenario?? 40-50$ is nothing for local intel or early warning..

    • @dryyouth7104
      @dryyouth7104 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ghostwalkerairsofttech1947 Can you please make a quick video on your setup? I’m just getting started with this. TIA

  • @raspberrypimilitant2242
    @raspberrypimilitant2242 Před 2 lety +6

    Ahhh I was a MARS operator for a few years but I strayed in my own directions as a ham radio operator communications skills are perishable and not enough soldiers understand how comms work in general which leads to ineffective communications and atak is sweet and I proposed it's use to the MERN in the north east but it fell on deaf ears. I like this hybrid mix up of software but for me and my family meshtastic alone works just fine enough for what we need it for but if I had bin a popular person with friends I would maybe consider making a meshtastic atak network in my area but I am that guy with no one to talk to over it and family knows it's uses for black outs or comms down situations

  • @rorschachguy2055
    @rorschachguy2055 Před 2 lety +5

    Are you gonna do a video on land navigation, MGRS, and how to take terrain into consideration?

  • @AaronAlso
    @AaronAlso Před rokem +2

    I"m curious if you have looked into OsmAnd? I have to use it for offline GPS routing for my job and learned about from another techticool LARPer. It provides quite a bit of offline information and you can download all the extra map details as needed. I've wondered if there were plugins for it that would communicate with Meshtastic or provide some ATAK troop features.

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz Před 2 lety +1

    Holy fuck. This is literally keeping phones useful after SHTF.
    As long as you keep them running, you can text and use maps.
    Ok, i'm definitely getting some of these ASAP.

  • @kuzadupa185
    @kuzadupa185 Před 2 lety +2

    You can connect the phone to the meshtastic device using a usb cable. Specifically a usb otg cable

  • @surplusdriller1
    @surplusdriller1 Před 2 lety +4

    Would be really useful to integrate small drone dropped lora sound and vibration detectors for perimeter tank detection etc

  • @lakemanson8051
    @lakemanson8051 Před 2 lety +1

    Apparently WAVE Relay makes some pretty fun tech that plays well with ATAK

  • @securemindsetofficial
    @securemindsetofficial Před 2 lety

    Absolute gold!

  • @jasonperry6046
    @jasonperry6046 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. I am really interested in setting up the system you demonstrated. I have one point of disagreement though. LoRa has an identifiable signal profile. It uses a "cherp" that other 900MHz devices wont use. That being said you wont be able to identify your LoRa device versus my Lora device.

  • @KidCorporate
    @KidCorporate Před 2 lety

    Dude finally got around to installing all this on a LineageOS build, everything work great! Next step is to roll it out to the rest of the crew and train them...

  • @user-zt2vf6vx7p
    @user-zt2vf6vx7p Před 2 lety

    Kick ass video, as always, guys.

  • @1177Pointman
    @1177Pointman Před 2 lety

    Keep up the great content, waiting on the latest Intel update.

  • @jeffbrownstain
    @jeffbrownstain Před 2 lety +4

    Sell TAKterminal kits;
    Atak + other useful software installed onto a cheap and robust android tablet running degoogled os with a mesh device + small placeable repeater.
    Could get the tablets for like 30 USD, resell the kits for a couple hundred with sponsor deals to the community.
    I'd buy a set to give everyone in my network, save me the trouble of doing it all myself and help fund your continued efforts.
    Just sayin

    • @jeffbrownstain
      @jeffbrownstain Před 2 lety

      By the way I have a suite of security macros used for network cognizance and situational awareness, with the soon-additions of having auto-wipe and network noise bursting functions available.
      They can run on any android and call functions from any other apps meaning full integration with any other services one might require.
      Add em to your kit and you could get a lot more work done out of some relatively weak machines.

  • @Soildus
    @Soildus Před 2 lety

    Great video! Where do you get a box to put the transceiver in? Just use a GPS waterproof box?

  • @andrewlackey3317
    @andrewlackey3317 Před 2 lety

    Do you have sketch or diagram on the case and battery set up you are showing? The black case? Did you have added mAH by expanding and running multiple 18650s in series? Just trying to learn how you gave more juice...if that is what you did. I like the case. The cases online only take one 18650.
    Do you also have wrapped in anti static electronics foil to prevent electromagnetic interference or damage?

  • @BareSphereMass
    @BareSphereMass Před 2 lety +6

    That would be amazing if phone companies would add an extra antenna to their phones so you could use it directly from your phone, instead of having to connect to an extra device.

    • @smithtroy827
      @smithtroy827 Před 10 měsíci

      That's who we avoid. Not on our side.

  • @steveosharrette2170
    @steveosharrette2170 Před 2 lety

    Love this class

  • @phillytechclub7089
    @phillytechclub7089 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice Work !!!!

  • @Version135
    @Version135 Před 2 lety +4

    Awesome

  • @alexorf6058
    @alexorf6058 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Was curious if you could make an updated video on the link with Meshtactica / Lora & ATAK. Not a ton of videos out there. Would be nice to know what current electronics and programs you are using.

  • @alejandrodetejas
    @alejandrodetejas Před 2 lety

    Doing the Lords work on this channel.

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 Před 2 lety +5

    Would it help, security wise, to run these on a tablet with no cell connectivity? I.e. being able to limit your transmissions to bluetooth and/or wifi?

    • @petermchaney3580
      @petermchaney3580 Před 2 lety +3

      A phone with no sim might be cheaper, but that could definitely work.

  • @DarthGnomian
    @DarthGnomian Před 2 lety +4

    Have you thought about putting a mesh node on a drone to park a node on top of tall buildings or ridges? From my understanding it’s line of sight so the higher the better right? Even mounting it in a fixed wing UAV set to loiter would be able to cover a decent amount of territory. Sorry just brainstorming use cases.

  • @BobBob-il2ku
    @BobBob-il2ku Před 2 lety

    Would love a video on solar nodes/“repeate” nodes
    Looks like the the WisBlock Meshtastic Starter Kit & RAKBox-B2 Enclosure with solar panel+ battery is the cheapest/easier way to make one

  • @megahurts2
    @megahurts2 Před 2 lety +5

    Ok so real question I have yet to verify...can a stingray device still gain access to your phone even if it doesn't have cell service(no SIM card)?
    And to take it a step farther, can it do it on a de-googled phone (also without SIM card)?
    There are parts of these modern smartphones that are a bit of a black box/unknown with the way the modem/system on a chip works.
    The way it was explained to me (as it relates to a phone on lets say Verizon and activated) is you have the equivalent of a tiny computer running in the background giving commands to your Android OS.
    It can interact with the OS in ways you can't monitor...sort of similar to if you could have hardware level malware / rootkits etc.
    All that sounds pretty out there, but its worth digging into.
    I feel as though the potential weak link could be the smart phone?
    Worth throwing that question abroad, as this is something I need to really dig further into.

    • @megahurts2
      @megahurts2 Před 2 lety +3

      Oh man, I should of kept watching.
      Thats a valid point about Bluetooth being a potential security issue.

  • @wxfield
    @wxfield Před 2 lety +1

    Perhaps a video of APRS and 2m comms in the US might be worthwhile? I keep an eye on a remote property 2,000 miles away from my residence using APRS and the 2 meter amateur radio band. 2 radios, 2k miles apart.

  • @LeadFarmer_84
    @LeadFarmer_84 Před 2 lety +8

    Two questions. 1) In a declared emergency or "govt down" scenario where regulations go out the window, how far could you extend the meshtastic range by bumping up the power? 2) You mentioned meshtastic using a very unique frequency. Is it possible with enough other users they could start stepping on each other?

    • @nifty3000
      @nifty3000 Před 2 lety +1

      I imagine it's line of sight range.

    • @MichaelBransonCoach
      @MichaelBransonCoach Před 2 lety +1

      They will step on each other. Ranges of 150kms arn't uncommon LOS already. "Lora" runs in a band of frequencies so if you don't mind tweaking the code....

    • @isimsoyad4474
      @isimsoyad4474 Před 2 lety +1

      1- not too far if you want to stick to the common sense. the wavelength for that frequency is too short to carry a signal to long distances unless you pump the signal up with a significant power. there are two problems with blasting that hard. first, you get triangulated way easier by hostile parties. second, you act as a jammer for non-hostile parties in shorter distance.
      2- I'd change the word "users" to "usage" and yes, it is entirely possible. More importantly, because the frequency is so low, the amount of usage to achieve that feat is lower than you think. This is why data intensive applications cannot be built on lora infrastructure. The frequency band doesn't have the enough bandwidth to carry so much data. However, applications of very low data intensity like ATAK won't even come close to testing those limits.

    • @kerbalairforce8802
      @kerbalairforce8802 Před 5 měsíci +1

      If you want more range, put a node higher up. Balloon, drone, water tower, something like that. If you live near a mountain, put one on the mountain to talk to people on the other side.

  • @ChaplainDaveSparks
    @ChaplainDaveSparks Před 19 dny

    As for losing your Meshtastic device, that could be a problem if your adversary finds it, encryption keys and all. You'd probably want a backup set of keys to switch to in the event that a node is compromised. In fact, you'd probably want to change them regularly, anyway, just as the military does.

  • @davidbane8292
    @davidbane8292 Před 2 lety

    I was waiting for my re-up of s2

  • @andrealdocodazzo3843
    @andrealdocodazzo3843 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this fantastic explenation but I have a question, is possible to have a raspberry pi with FreeTAKServer in this mesh network? If yes how? Thank you

  • @craigpalmer9196
    @craigpalmer9196 Před 2 lety +1

    best and worst thing i have done is find this channel :)

  • @derubermuller5971
    @derubermuller5971 Před 2 lety

    What I love about atack they even have NOAA maps

  • @meatsuitpilot6642
    @meatsuitpilot6642 Před 2 lety

    I was gonna recommend that OS... good choice.

  • @StevenSmith6942_
    @StevenSmith6942_ Před 2 lety

    awesome presentation

  • @wquon2007
    @wquon2007 Před rokem +1

    ATAK has been explained to me as a means to consolidate information in timely manner, which is why its great for military. but the average guy isnt getting info pushed from a dozen sources. I do think the hypothetical you showed can be a good fit for it, especially if there are many reports happening quickly.
    have you explored the same concept using osmand? idk if would would flow as easily, but it may be worth looking into.

  • @brigopsailor7989
    @brigopsailor7989 Před 2 lety

    Do you have a printable list of android software to install on some older tablets ? Looking to but tablets on Ebay or local flea markets and then buy and set up a local network

  • @HeyMarkRoss
    @HeyMarkRoss Před 2 lety

    Great information! Can you do a build video for the waterproof housings?

  • @doomferret4750
    @doomferret4750 Před 2 lety +1

    Is it possible for a meshtastic node to constantly (or frequently) upload its current position (which displays on an android device that's paired another node), or must each node be paired with a phone or tablet that is running ATAK? I guess what I'm asking is: can ATAK run natively on the T-Beam / meshtastic device, or is the T-Beam merely the means of communication between the andriod devices that are paired with each meshtastic node?

    • @DawidKellerman
      @DawidKellerman Před 2 lety +1

      Only a means of communication. But I predict that android devices with lora (the non Bluetooth radio link) capability is on the horizon and then you would have only one device with atak ontop and it would get rid of the Bluetooth entirely

    • @paulmandal1437
      @paulmandal1437 Před 2 lety +2

      A T-Beam can be configured by the ATAK Forwarder plugin to use its internal GPS and report its position at a configurable interval, it's under Trackers in the plugin configuration.

  • @jtatro
    @jtatro Před 2 lety +2

    Are we going to get a video on making one of those meshtastic devices?

  • @apecoinfo6516
    @apecoinfo6516 Před 2 lety

    Would love a video on how you built the meshtastic device.

  • @airmanfpv964
    @airmanfpv964 Před 2 lety +1

    by the way, the best 915MHz antenna is by TBS.

  • @MikeJones-mf2rt
    @MikeJones-mf2rt Před 2 lety

    YES THANK YOU

  • @anonymousanonymous8454

    Any advice on versions ? Im new to all this and getting components together. Im gonna buy a android phone but don’t have it yet.. is the atak version heavily dependent on the android op system version?

  • @NHisBlood
    @NHisBlood Před 2 lety +3

    Is there a max range and is there mountain interference? Thank you

  • @mikegrouper3336
    @mikegrouper3336 Před rokem

    Great vid! Do you have a video about how to make maps where all the buidlings are one color in the traditional mil style?

  • @Andrew-pd7co
    @Andrew-pd7co Před 2 lety

    Thanks mate

  • @JohnSmith-bh8um
    @JohnSmith-bh8um Před 5 měsíci

    Can this be used for geo location between to existing nodes? Example use one as x, and one as y coordinates on a sideloaded map. And the moving third one would accurately be tracked using the other two by point of reference?

  • @freidrichnietzsche6643
    @freidrichnietzsche6643 Před 4 měsíci

    Another good video.
    I’ve been downloading and taking vids like this offline for the last few years before they disappear 🧐
    Questions: I’m an iOS guy so what kind of android devices should I buy to run this system?
    Operating in the mountains, is this setup a good solution or not? What would augment this setup to do so or is another setup altogether better?

    • @berndmanitzky1476
      @berndmanitzky1476 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Line of sight is a important point. The option to drop a shoe carton sized box with a repeater an 1month of battery is a option to keep in mind. The kite in the wind approach is usable for burst signals in permissive environments.