ZWO Seestar S50 12 Month Review | Is It Worth the Hype?

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @bobcarn
    @bobcarn Před měsícem +30

    I'm 64, on a pension, living in a mid-sized city with light pollution, and have an arthritic neck that makes it difficult to crane my head around to look through telescopes. I love astronomy but don't have the skills to set up a dedicated rig. I also have lots of interests and don't care to invest the time into procuring and learning how to set up professional equipment. I just want to be able to look up and see nebula and galaxies and other objects. For $499, I couldn't be happier. The other night I was with my nephew and had it set up on my front lawn as traffic passed back and forth 10 yards away on the main avenue while streetlights shone down upon us. I saw the Dumbbell Nebula was supposed to be visible, not that I could see anything but a dozen or so stars because of the light pollution. But I told it to find the nebula. We both squealed in delight as the nebula showed up on my tablet just a minute later. I still get excited over things that show up when I use it.

    • @johndaley9188
      @johndaley9188 Před měsícem +2

      I too have physical limitations (also retired), so when I became interested in the hobby last year the S50 was my HW choice. So much fun.

    • @tonyrainbolt9388
      @tonyrainbolt9388 Před 18 dny +2

      Thank you for your comment. I'm 65 and more or less in the same situation. I bought a Meade ETX thirty years ago and had a lot of fun with it. But I live in Indianapolis, so lots of light also. A friend brought his new Seestar over last night. Short learning curve. Lot's of fun. But we didn't try any deep sky objects. That's what I had always wanted to do. Your story has convinced me more than anything else that this setup does just that. Clear skies to you and your nephew!

    • @joshwarrey3728
      @joshwarrey3728 Před 4 dny +1

      Exactly, this astro-camera is aimed at people like us

    • @johndaley9188
      @johndaley9188 Před 4 dny

      @tonyrainbolt9388 Buy it. I've had mine since January and have taken well over 100 images. It's not designed to over impress planet captures. However, I have gotten Saturn(recognizable) and even Pluto. Is it small? Yes. But I know what it is, and I did it. I still smile at that one. To me, Seestar does a great job on nebula and galaxies. Watching the image build(stack) is impressive. Highly recommend for all ages.

  • @Mike__G
    @Mike__G Před měsícem +8

    I’m at the other end of my astronomy pastime. For the last 17 years I’ve spent a great deal of time under the night sky with a variety of visual telescopes, eyepieces, star atlases and observing guides. I learned the sky and thoroughly enjoyed the views of many, many objects through the eyepiece. I also spent some time with EAA with various scopes and cameras. At the ripe old age of 67 I was thinking of leaving the hobby altogether because of physical limitations hauling heavy gear around and because of cornea disease which has affected my eyesight. Enter the Seestar. It came on the scene at exactly the right time. I am able to capture a great number of objects from my deck which has a 90 degree view of the sky from North East to South East. And I’ve learned rudimentary processing of the raw fits files using Siril and other software. I get to continue with my hobby and the challenge is still there when it comes to pulling all the data out of those images. To say nothing of going after obscure targets. Best $500 US I’ve spent on astronomy gear. A toy? Maybe. But a very good toy and lots of fun.’’

  • @LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts
    @LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts Před 2 měsíci +20

    The Seestar does create FITS files (not just jpegs), which can be post processed to improve quality considerably. If you're just looking at jpeg images you're missing out on what the Seestar can do. The best way to photograph the moon (or the sun) is to take a RAW video and use an app to glean the best frames and create a much sharper detailed image.
    If harder were better then we'd all be using DOS on our computers, wouldn't we?

    • @johndaley9188
      @johndaley9188 Před 18 dny

      @@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts Back to horse and buggy. And the sliderule. No thanks. Go Seestar.

    • @rahmmenon224
      @rahmmenon224 Před 2 dny

      Which post processing software would you recommend to improve the raw files and “bring life into them”.
      Siril or something similar.
      If using those, do you still need dark, flats, bias pics?

    • @LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts
      @LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts Před dnem

      @@rahmmenon224 Siril is what I use for the initial post-processing. Cuiv the Geek has a very good video on how to post process the separate frames. From there I use GraXpert to reduce noise, fix gradients and crop. Next I import the TIF file into Photoshop. I've been using Photoshop for a very long time, so I'm most comfortable in the environment, but there are many others that are also excellent. I don't use darks, flats or bias pics.
      What constitutes a good astro photograph is something that takes time and practice to understand. What looked good to me when I first started out is not the standard I have come to work with now. Your eye gets better, more discerning. You look at other people's astro photographs and decided which you like, which are overdone, which are too understated and you develop your own tastes.

  • @txdave2
    @txdave2 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I took up astrophotography a few months ago at the age of 70. I put together a nice rig around a Skywatcher 80mm refractor. Then, I had a back injury . I was so disappointed over this disruption to progress in my new hobby. I purchased a Seestar and am very pleased with it. It's just an easier and lighter way for me to get out and capture subs. I still get to enjoy spending time stacking and processing the files. It's a great piece of tech for a very reasonable price.

  • @atoieno
    @atoieno Před měsícem +4

    Fundamentally it's about satisfying a deep curiosity that we humans have for finding out what is up there. Any tool that helps us do that is a legitimate one. I have recently acquired a Seestar. Coming from a photographic background where Gear Acquisition Syndrome is a trap for many, I appreciate that this bit of kit gets to the point. No one really cares what struggle you go through to get a shot.....they care about the result. (Post-processing the raw files in Siril helps considerably with its results).

  • @71janas
    @71janas Před 2 měsíci +5

    Spot on! The satisfaction of doing everything yourself👍.
    Im a weelchair user due to paralysed legs (MS) and i absolutely love setting up my gear, Ioptron Skyguider pro "Ipolar" with a full spectrum astro modded Canon 77D, and my Canon L lenses. Getting a RedCat 51 this winter.
    Greetings from Denmark. Clear sky's.

  • @paulmckeown5672
    @paulmckeown5672 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I completely agree with your points on the SeeStar. The last couple of years in Glasgow the weather has been appalling for this hobby. Getting the HQ5 PRO and all the rest of the gear out of the garage and set up and then clouds roll in, basically put me off this hobby. With the SeeStar I just look out the window and if there 's a break in the clouds I can pop it down in the garden and start imaging. It's got me fired up again with astrophotography so much that I'm looking forward to the season starting again and running both the SeeStar and my bigger mounts again. It's also great at outreach events when my society does public talks. Yes the public like to use mark-1 eyeball to look through our telescopes but they love looking at images appearing on my ipad and realise it's not as intimidating to use as the "real rigs"

    • @AstroExploring
      @AstroExploring  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Completely agree, Paul. I recently did a talk at Cambridge and all everybody wanted to talk to me about was the SeeStar!

  • @tedinohio3981
    @tedinohio3981 Před měsícem +3

    The one thing I would add is that one can get individual fit files of an object and then use either freeware or payware to stack and edit and get better final images. So, it can also be a "gateway" to trying the editing process.

  • @namastelounge3863
    @namastelounge3863 Před měsícem +5

    Sooner or later these “toys” will take over a whole segment of the Astro market just like the iPhones and Samsungs took over the point and shoot camera market . The technology will only get better and better. Thats my prediction.

  • @shabingly
    @shabingly Před 2 měsíci +2

    Whilst I think the argument that it removes some of the personal-growth element by "doing it all for you" is an argument (and it is something I sometimes feel myself), I don't think it's a particularly good one.
    If you boil that argument down, as an example; no-one would be using modern astrophotography digital cameras, or even DSLR cameras. They'd still be struggling using plates. But that technology was superseded by another, then that tech was superseded etc etc.

  • @AlexisG54
    @AlexisG54 Před měsícem

    This video is amazing. Im buying the seestar for my friend. He and i went up to canada for the recent Totality eclipse. Ive known him for 20 years. Ive never seen him get as excited as he did that day. The seestar is going to be a perfect gift he can take anywhere when we travel.

    • @ian-atg
      @ian-atg Před 7 dny

      You are one hell of a friend. No sarcasm, that’s very generous

  • @rotwiler7674
    @rotwiler7674 Před 27 dny +2

    Imagine in a few years the s50 will be a s100 or s150, with even more amazing results.

    • @starman3088
      @starman3088 Před 19 dny +1

      I don't think ZWO will beef up the Seestar much above a 80mm. They have got it just right and it keeps the cost down, allowing more newbies. Obviously they make far better setups, which allows those people who want to get serious to branch into.
      They seem to be focusing on improving the s50 to be a good all-in-one scope. What I would like to see would be the ability to magnify Deep Sky objects so that you can narrow the field of view on small objects.

  • @astronebulee578
    @astronebulee578 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you Nick. I hope you and the family are well. I think I will be getting a seestar S50 in the future as. I've dismantled my astrophotography dso rig, because I live in a 1st floor flat and have to take everything down 2 flights of stairs in 2 trips then lump everything back up I the middle of the night twice, dangle an extension lead out of a 1st floor window to power it. Then having to stay outside all the time with it whilst imaging as it's in a communal area, then as you said with the weather we have it never went out for months. So the seestar will definitely for my use of it in the future. Thank you again for your great video clear skies.

    • @stuartbolden2142
      @stuartbolden2142 Před měsícem

      Hi Lee , I didn’t know you had dismantled your rig mate :( but I certainly understand why you have . I reckon it was really hard for you to do that . But keep the faith mate

  • @rotwiler7674
    @rotwiler7674 Před 27 dny

    I bought a seestar s50 a few months ago and decided to try when I was camping in a no city light area. Once connected to phone/tablet, all I did is level it and start taking shots. Was able to get 2 deep sky objects right away, I didn't let them go for long, so they look good, but not great at only around 10 minutes. Took photo of a nebula and spiral galaxy. Next day took live moon tracking video and sun. Next night I forgot to level scope and issues. Next night, leveled scope through the app, then worked flawless. There are a fee things buggy, when first adding a new phone, takes me awhile to get it working, buy once working, non issue. Same when I connected my tablet. I can set the seestar s50 on my deck, go inside about 75 feet away and sit on couch taking shots. Hardest part for me is figuring out what is in my line of sight. Also when using scope my phone data doesn't work, so I put the app on my tablet, so I can look up things while using the seestar. Only accessories I bought was a lense cover and a $15 leveler that goes between the scope and tripod. Has wheels on the leveler to turn and makes it easy to level. Quality wise, I think the price vs quality of photos you get is well worth it. I have a large scope and always frustrated me. This seestar is easy. Amazing what something like this that is so small can do.

  • @Oamaruastro
    @Oamaruastro Před 2 měsíci

    I have had my Seestar for a bit less than a year (I think it arrived in November for me) but it has been a nice addition to my collection of telescopes for much the same reason as you. The ease of setup cannot be beat, and while it isn’t as flexible as my “proper” rigs, since you cannot set it to take a certain number of hours on one target and then move on to another, for example, and the lack of an equatorial mount causing significant field rotation for another, it still can produce pretty decent images for the amount of effort you put into it.

  • @johnleach324
    @johnleach324 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Well balanced but the SeeStar is definitely not a toy Nick!

    • @AstroExploring
      @AstroExploring  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well it’s just so much fun to use it feels like a toy 😃

  • @bobslfcu773
    @bobslfcu773 Před 12 dny

    Nice video. If you are taking 11 minute images, is the Seestar stacking the images or does the user do it? If you are stacking the images, what software are you using? Thanx for the info.

  • @randydodge160
    @randydodge160 Před 2 měsíci

    Agree with the review, its well balanced and fair. I used the Seestar for the April Solar eclipse with great success. I wish there was a way to use it for Jupiter/Saturn, perhaps a future model will be good for that. I've done more imaging with the Seestar than I ever did with my traditional equipment. When AI allows for an easier image enhancing experience, I'll use that. Cheers.

  • @judd_s5643
    @judd_s5643 Před 28 dny

    2:14 I think the mfg’s will make a fully integrated system like a Seestar with higher end optics, longer focal lengths and sensor’s for use by the 95th percentile of the population. ( well, of those that recognize there is something up there to photograph)!
    There will be no need to add anything to get good Astro photographs. If you want great photo’s then be prepared to pay greater prices, above what they cost today.

  • @MikeLikesChannel
    @MikeLikesChannel Před 27 dny

    Your take is correct, except that in 10 years time - every mainstream telescope will be this. If we’re lucky Celestron might keep selling 8” SCTs.
    Increasing light pollution, no attention span for visual astronomy, and no convenient storage for an 8” Dob means this is the future. They’ll get better and cheaper as time rolls along.

  • @markkitaoka8783
    @markkitaoka8783 Před měsícem

    Thank you for this. I'm a full-time commercial photographer and have always been intrigued by astrophotography. But after investing over 55k in my work camera gear, lighting, and modifiers I don't want to go down the astro rabbit hole since I don't plan to make money on this. So I'm going to try one of them. The price compared to the 'other gear' you use? Please find me a medium format commercial still camera for 500.00. LOL, I'm looking forward to this journey so thank you.

  • @rotwiler7674
    @rotwiler7674 Před 20 dny

    Just seen the seestar s50 is $399 on Amazon, great price.

  • @TelfordO
    @TelfordO Před měsícem

    Thanks have been considering buying one just for fun, for when i we get say an hour or so clear sky's

  • @theone2519
    @theone2519 Před 28 dny

    These smart telescopes will need a integrated Barlow, so more useful on the planets.

  • @stuartbolden2142
    @stuartbolden2142 Před měsícem

    One part of your review on the seestars , nick is that you do feel a bit of a disconnect with the device . I was an early adopter but sold it as I was not getting any satisfaction using the device . But I am going to buy another one , why ??? Because of the ease of use and at least seeing something in our atrocious sky is better than lugging out my other rig only to bring it in after 30 minutes .

  • @bobf3598
    @bobf3598 Před měsícem

    I don't understand why people are fobbed off buying these unnecessary add-ons from these websites. Everything you need is in the box! The only part you might need to get and if you have a 3D printer, you can do it yourself and save a lot of money (for pennies worth of filament, they are making a killing!) is a dew shield and which will benefit if you get a lot of city light pollution and any local bright lights in the area. The only other accessory would be a Bahtinov mask, which can be 3d printed too!!

  • @djphild
    @djphild Před 2 měsíci

    Your thoughts?
    Going camping later this month . Thinking of getting it for this reason and others you noted (cloudy night, demanding job, young kid, can't be buggered to set up bigger rigs). Battery life of about 6 hours should suffice for a couple of nights of camping (maybe a couple of hours each night). There is no electricity at the campsite. I have a Star Adventurer GTi and the Star Adventurer 2i but the prospect of packing up DSLR camera, lens/scope, batteries, tripods, polar aligning, etc. puts me off. Will also have about 6 kids around who demand "instant gratification" so the live stacking and relative quick sessions on a target (about 30 mins) can be a boon combined with a 10" tablet.
    I think I just convinced myself. Guess I'm easy but not cheap. lol. Now onto the fun times of moving funds so the accountant (wife) is not alerted of purchase. :D

    • @AstroExploring
      @AstroExploring  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Haha best of luck! The best telescope is the one you use most often, this is so easy you’ll use it lots!

    • @djphild
      @djphild Před 2 měsíci

      @@AstroExploring Bought it this morning. :D Yikes! Here comes the Spanish inquisition. Took the whole "better to grovel than ask permission" route.

    • @AstroExploring
      @AstroExploring  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@djphild that’s my philosophy! Congrats, you’ll love it

    • @killerhurtalot
      @killerhurtalot Před měsícem

      I would just grab a battery bank (or a bigger battery "generator") and it'll last days.
      I grabbed a 256 wh battery and it lasted my friends and I 4 days out in the woods of just charging the smartphones and seestar.

  • @shaunmk
    @shaunmk Před 2 měsíci

    the seestar replaced every piece of astro kit i once owned, was getting fed up carrying heavy rigs, cables, laptop etc etc..yes its not perfect, but for my needs now its perfect...also have the dwarf 2...wont be upgrading to dwarf 3, not a big enough upgrade in my books..

    • @AstroExploring
      @AstroExploring  Před 2 měsíci

      I also have a DWARF 2. Review coming for that soon but I haven’t used it as much as the SeeStar

    • @mayankk2800
      @mayankk2800 Před 2 měsíci

      Which is better? Seestar or Dwarf

    • @ItsDynos
      @ItsDynos Před 23 dny

      @@mayankk2800 Seestar

  • @matthew_robineau7609
    @matthew_robineau7609 Před měsícem

    Great review. Wanting to purchase one but im worried theyl release a new/updated/bigger/better version! Does anyone know if that might happen??

    • @johndaley9188
      @johndaley9188 Před měsícem

      ZWO just reduced the S50 price by $50 US last week. Much speculation as to what that means. S50 community believes the next generation is coming soon.

  • @scottfaucher5412
    @scottfaucher5412 Před 8 dny

    doesn't the telescope take the fun and enjoyment out of sky watching .... it's like fishing in a barrel.... PLUG-PLAY... no more enjoyment

  • @TerryMcKnight1
    @TerryMcKnight1 Před 2 měsíci

    You hit the nail on the head there Nick. It is a great little toy to play with. Not for me - but great video as ever.

  • @Megawatt
    @Megawatt Před 2 měsíci

    Do you find field rotation to be an issue at all?

    • @AstroExploring
      @AstroExploring  Před 2 měsíci

      It hasn’t been an issue for me in my images 👍

  • @jcarra8963
    @jcarra8963 Před měsícem

    Call me skeptical but how can a small telescope be able to view DSOs like it does. What is the magnification power rating? Is it just a device that can only present views from a database?

    • @Karmidzhanov92
      @Karmidzhanov92 Před 4 dny

      Was wondering the same, how can we be sure it's not AI pulling up an image from a vast database of DSO images?

  • @BluetoothDummy-i4w
    @BluetoothDummy-i4w Před 3 dny

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  • @KJRitch
    @KJRitch Před 2 měsíci +1

    I wonder if the CCP is subsidizing this product, seems too cheap. Someone should come out with a strain wave mount with motorized AL/Az controls for polar alignment with built in computer like ASIAir or NINA. Plug your cameras, focuser, EFW dew heater into the mount. Point it north and level. Turn it on and go inside to monitor. Maybe the Celestron Origin is that but at $4k it’s expensive.
    I think if these become more mainstream people will get bored because there is no challenge and everyone’s photos will look the same. I would expect to see a lot of these for sale on the used market in a couple of years.