Sanitaire Tradition REVIEW - Upright Bagged Commercial Vacuum, SC886F
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00:00 Sanitaire Tradition C886FS Review
00:23 Build and Longevity
00:52 Powerful
01:25 Carpet Deep Cleaning
02:11 Vacuum Cleaner for Carpet
02:38 Hard Floors
02:48 Hair Tangles
03:12 Sanitaire SC888
03:24 Filtration
04:06 Ease of Use
04:29 Conclusion
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I've owned a commercial cleaning company for 30 years. We've tried a lot of stuff and come back to Sanitaire. What is great is that you can totally rebuild these machines on the cheap. Most replaced item is the brushes. You don't have to buy a whole roller, just remove the bolt on one end and slide the rod out and you can pull the brushes off with a pair of pliers. It is a bit tricky inserting the new ones because you have to make sure they stay in the grooves or the metal tube will expand a little and you won't be able to get the end caps back on. I have saved a lot of money over the years replacing brushes instead of buying new rollers. These vacs really scrub so commercially we replace them every 3 or 4 months. The machine is difficult to use if you let the brushes wear too thin because you have to drop the level and it starts sucking its self to the floor. Do not use this on the lowest setting, take advantage of the air flow. No wonder in the video some of the larger debris it would push along and not pick up. They were testing it with full contact to the carpet instead of slightly higher which actually helps you pick up more dust and everything because of the air flow. Don't buy a dump bag unless you want to wash it often. Biggest reason these stop cleaning well is because the bag is never cleaned. We use paper filters to catch more dust and more importantly so the cloth bag clogs up less often. We clean the cloth bags with water and hang them to dry every 3 months. You'll see these running and the cloth bag is firm and hard to compress. When you buy a brand new unit squeeze the bag and you'll see how easy it is to compress. That is because the air is flowing easily through the cloth bag. All parts are available and pretty cheap. I've replaced motor bearings, motor brushes, the deck, the clips for the cords, the bags, brushes, brush bearings, impellers, bottom plates, rear wheels, misc. springs, the handle housing that attaches to the base. Most my vacuums have few original parts, a few units I've had since 1985 when I started; I've never thrown one of these away. We don't worry about it not having a detachable hose because we detail vacuum with a back vac weekly to get into hard to reach places. Nothing works better on entry floor mats. There's some tips for those of you looking to buy one of these.
But why deal with the hassle, effort, and down time because of the extra maintanence and labor associated with these direct air machines and instead get a bypass air machine like the Hoover Hushtone or the Windsor Sensor XP12 (Sebo Essential G1) and not have to fuck with belts, rebuilt motors, etc. ...
Bro you made like 20 essays
@@darthgamer6080 i have a sebo G1 and it's a tough vacuum. i use it in my house.
Man you know you're old when this brings you back to the days when all vacuums looked like this! Stunned they still make things look like they did.
I service these vacuums for a janitorial company and I can attest these are SUPERBLY constructed and have outstanding performance. These things get absolutely beat to DEATH with our company and they just last and last. Everything can be serviced or replaced on them super easily.
I have no intention to ever buy a commercial vacuum but man I love these reviews.
Lol, thats actually pretty awesome to hear, thanks!
Totally agree..love your videos. They are sooo informative, to the point and unbiased.
Anyone who's familiar with these knew it was going to do exceptionally well in the deep cleaning test. These, Kirby and metal Royals are the best vacuums you can possibly get when it comes to pure carpet cleaning power. It is best to supplement them with a canister though due to the lack of above the floor and hard floor cleaning capabilities.
Yes! The three machines you mentioned are excellent deep cleaners. I really love the Royal for commercial use.
Me two allthough i own a kirby avalir 2 and i love the veratility of it. With canister mode. Over 5 times the cleaning attachments combined with over 12 times the cleaning power. You can defenitly say that the deal i got for 1799 instead if 2995 was money well spent.
I disagree. They are great only if you have old carpets. Most modern carpets have a plastic backing to prevent spillages from reaching the wood underneath. Unfortunately this restricts the airflow and these machines have very little suction to compensate for it
@@alex9621 That plastic backing will restrict the airflow for all vacuum types and a higher nozzle suction would result in more sealing to it resulting in a greater loss of flow and it being harder to move. The sanitaire SC888 has gotten 20" of waterlift at the head in my testing which is pretty standard machines with higher suction at the hose or motor base end up losing quite a bit of suction due to leaks in the airpath and will often have much lower figures at the nozzle as compared to their hose measurements. I still think the sanitaire will perform pretty well on modern carpet especially with it's height adjustment system.
@@Blackheartvacs 20" is pretty low. That's compared to a Dyson which can do 110-115". This is why airflow in a Dyson at the hose is the same as those old machines (like a Kirby in canister mode), which means even higher air flow at greater suction levels.
I bought a used blue version of this and used it to vacuum my garage in MN! It was such a tank and never broke. I used it as a trade in for a Simplicity. I don't miss it that much but it reminds me of school when I was a kid!
Thank you! Your links totally saved me when I needed to replace the "better filtration" model's bag!
Great to hear!
Omg, i remember my mom using this vacuum when i was a child. I think it's mainly use in businesses
I have the SC888. It's beast. If you buy one, buy spare belts. I use mine in a commercial setting with a street-front entrance with lots of dirt and small gravel traced on to my floor. I'm in Canada so all winter I'm vacuuming lots of grit and sand that tracks in from the side walk and that is what is hard the the belts. Also, I need to replace the motor brushes about once a year. This vacuum is great because you can actually fix this unit!! Most cheaper vacuums would last me almost a year and the motor would go up in smoke.
Other info:
1. I vacuum 600 sq feet daily for 11 years with this vacuum
2. I fill 3 bags a year
3. I break 3-4 belts a year, mostly in the winter when conditions nasty
4. You can buy almost any part you need online.
I use the SC888N which as you stated is the disposable bag version. It is a BEAST at pulling dirt out of carpet. You may think the carpet is clean but it will find dirt and fill the bag up!
The test I've been waiting for, the king of air flow! Awesome! I've been following you on my alt account for a long time. I'd go with ANY of the sanitaire models with a HEPA bag, they make several in a few different price ranges, the shakeout bag type doesnt filter at all.
I'm try placing a bag over the shake out bag. To much does going out.
I do love this vacuum and would love to have one. I’ve tried it in the States whilst there and really loved it. I guess they make shake out bags for cheap companies that don’t want to spend money on bags as I guess they cost a lot compared to other bags on the market today? Video idea there maybe? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I would only use the hepa bagged one personally. Awesome video as always Chris 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😘
We still get these issued to us in the Navy Barracks at NAS Pensacola. They remind me of 1970s vacuums.
I appreciate your works and give the facts on your videos
With the Riccar r40 series , did you check and make sure that it was picking up the sand and not extra carpet fibers ?
Out of all the Commercial Vacuums out there I still prefer the Sanitaire SC886 & SC888!! Easy to maintain and cheap/easy to find parts!
I understand that it is a good quality vacuum cleaner but in terms of manageability it is very difficult, I have to clean a 27 floors building and after 5 floors I end up with a lot of back pain because the vacuum is very heavy.
I agree, especially how it really grabs onto the floor. 27 floors, bless your heart. I just vacuumed my 2 story house today and need an Advil for my back, but I'm in bad shape 😅
Your reviews are amazing and entertaining. How is it you made vaccuming a fun subject!!
Are they self propelled or are they counting on that level knob to get it high enough to roll over the carpet? If so is that level knob vulnerable to much wear?
Do you think that the models with the allergen bag would do a better job at capturing particles? Any chance you could test that? :)
Been waiting for this one! Thank!! Love these machines
I spent 8 years before I retired selling janitorial, which included commercial vacs, and we sold Sanitaire in addition to a couple of other brands. Hotels really liked this model because it was the cheapest "commercial" vac that I had seen. I didn't feel it was a good buy because it was essentially a home vac* with a long cord, and I felt it was overpriced for what it was, but sometimes you need to sell them what they want. *When I say it's like a home vac, when I was younger our family business sold Hoover home vacs, and the Sanitaire was constructed almost identically only the Hoover's did use a disposable paper bag.
I use these Sanitary vacuums at work for the school district it seems like the belts are always breaking sometime stuff gets sucks in impellers and they break too
Try the sanitaire 635a. It is similar style but is there professional series of vacuums
Found one of these in the school I'm working at. Thing was covered in what looked like calcium and hardened dust. Cleaned it up, and other than a little rust here and there, the thing retained it's power. Other than being a really gross clean up, it's great.
Well done!
Do you have a video showing how to clean it? How to remove the bag and the brush to clean it?
they are a great 'grab n go' second vac in between Kirby or Rainbow full house cleaning day
Wonderful saw
Is this your best carpet deep cleaner?
I'm actually considering getting the SC888, most say that these break down fast & no place repairs these so they just throw them away, but a plus side that wasn't mentioned was how easy these parts are to get, belts are less than $5, & even the direct air motor is almost $60, that's really affordable compared to a motor for a Clarke Carpetmaster 112 (another vacuum that I have), & how easy it is to install these things & fix
One my favorite commercial vacuums I just wish the can make a canister version .I would like to see what I'm getting up.🤓👍
So the sc888 use bags but what kind of bags is it f&g is it st or is it both if you know and can confirm that please tell me
Very often the go-to machine for cleaners in apartments and condos.
I have a suggestion of a test. Try testing for likelihood of clogging by vacuuming clumps of paper towels from small clumps to larger clumps. See how large it can handle before it gets lodged somewhere. This could be helpful, as we often accidentally vacuum up stuff like paper or socks.
I "accidentally" vacuumed a used condom I didn't want to touch....
Leon Wagner Eww, that’s weird
@@hmvocaloid7360 I was a janitor at a college lol
Leon Wagner can you imagine if you had to clear that clog?
@@a111z I'm not sure I would. Just say it's broke lmao
Does the sanitaire vacumm have a light on the front?
Have you ever heard of the Workhorse commercial Vacuum? I've been seeing it used around CZcams and was curious if you can't test it to see if it's any good!
Keep up the good work!
Can you review and compare the Bissell bgu8000 big green to the oreck xl?
These, and their Eureka cousins, the metal Royals, Kirbys, or almost any direct air machines are absolute monsters when it comes to cleaning carpets. You’ll almost never find a better carpet deep cleaner. They do struggle with above floor cleaning, which is why most didn’t even have tools.
we use one of these where I work and after years of abuse it is HORRIBLE at vacuuming and it is extremely tiring to use because it weighs so much. It also snaps belts about twice a week, we do about 30-45 mins of vacuuming a day. So thats pretty terrible. When it had a new motor and beater bar it does do a really god job though.
The roller/belt comes right off without tools in moments. Why didn't you do that and test it that way on hard floors? With that kind of airflow, I imagine it'd be very impressive.
Thanks! Nice review! The performance is not unexpected considering I own three of them. For a vacuum that’s not as expensive as a Dyson you can get a bit out of it.
I believe these Sanitaire vacuums are very reliable just like their older Eureka ancestors. I used to have a blue line S677 with the ST bag setup (which I honestly find way better than the F&G bag setup since they are a true top fill bag design) and it was an amazing vacuum and it was really powerful (honestly more powerful than my Kirby Diamond Edition), I sold it about a year ago and admittedly still regret selling it to this day. The only thing I don't like about it is how easily the belts tend to stretch after such little use. And if you think the shakeout bag models have bad filtration, just wait until you test the bagless version of this, they're way worse I bet, the place where I used to work had a bagless version of that model and it had very terrible filtration (that is why I don't think direct air vacuums should be made with bagless systems).
I like the style
I always take no brush shut off switch and no squeegee backwards to avoid scattering debris
If you have new carpeting, I HIGHLY recommend getting either the Vibragroomer 1 or CWP wooden replacement brushroll for these. The factory Vibragroomer 2 is so aggressive it actually eats the carpet slightly. Also, you can use HEPA F&G bags if your model came equipped with the F&G bags originally. That airflow and cleaning ability though? Second to none. Also, for bare floors, I find it dead easy to just pop the base plate off and take the belt off the motor shaft. Takes me about 20 seconds if that, since I've used them on and off for nearly 22 years. Could be worth it to see how much of a difference the bare floor test would be. Other than that, great job man!! I knew this would be good, but I didn't expect THAT good!!
@Matthew Sullins Huh!! I never knew that!! I kinda want to get an older model now (even the blue line would be fine) and do the Kirby fill tube mod some people talk about doing on these. That would be a cheap way to high performance for sure!!
Hmm. @vacuumwars What did you have the carpet height set at? During the particle test I noticed it looked like you were having a tough time with pushing it. With that much airflow, these have the ability to literally pull the carpet off the floor. With me, we have spots of matted carpet and it can pull it half an inch into the air and keep it there. Just something to know about these. They were meant to pull LOTS of air through the carpet and literally beat it to death at the same time. With me, I sometimes have to have it set two settings HIGHER than the carpet or else it bogs down. Normally it's one setting higher than what other vacuums would need. Just some advice with any of these old school units. The Hoover Guardsman is almost exactly like this in that sense as well.
They are for sure some of the best deep cleaners I have used in my cleaning company. That being said they do not cope well with rocks, paper clips, staples. Etc. they just spit them out or bounce around inside the cleaning head. If you wanna test a true monster of a vacuum do yourself a favor and try out a royal metal commercial upright. It literally will pick up anything in its path and I’m curious to see how much cfm it pulls at the head. 9 blade metal fan and 10 amp motor it literally picks the carpet up off the floor
I'm curious to see how the paper bag version does in the filtration tests, just to see if it gets a passing score. Also I'm 99% sure the wide track Tradition (model SC899) still includes the solid aluminum Vibra-Groomer I brushroll. I'm curious to see how that stacks up against the 886's Vibra II in the deep clean test
Considering the SC888 (disposable bag type) is ranked high in the Gold list of the CRI Seal of Approval list, I'd say it's at least up there with the Hoover Hushtone
Ive seen this exact same vacuum has at my church. It’s been their for at least 15 years.
Cool, thanks for posting!
Flip the carpet on the backside then vacuum to agitate the sand out of the carpet to get a deeper clean
*hepa for home*
*shake out for businesses*
not bad for roughly $250 but if you must have a hose then other vacuums are better for the money. for that reason im thinking id opt for the kenmore elite.
I noticed you didn’t include the Oreck XL in the “direct air” category, when in fact it is. Oreck vacuums don’t have traditional direct air numbers like the Kirby or sanitataire because they use significantly smaller (about 4 amp) motors, whereas the sanitatiare uses a 7 amp
Have you ever tested a rainbow vacuum??
These are great carpet deep cleaners.
from experience: only good for summertime when brand new. the real problem occurs with ice melter (salt) on a carpet. won't pick it up plus will burn belts every week. the bag won't open after a couple month of use.
Thanks for the input!
I want one of these I own 9 cvacums this would be a good one
Yayyyy more commercial vacuums
The belt and fan configuration is the same as a vintage Hoover.
What was the fpm number
I made a mistake in buying a Bissell Pro Shake commercial vacuum cleaner for my home. I don't know what brand to buy now. I hate the robotic looks of most vacuum cleaners and I don't need the extra attachments. Oreck might be good, but they're noisy.
my grandma has an old ass vacuum like this and its has never had any trouble. Not even a bad belt
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PLEASE do the Hoover shoulder-vac!
What would you recommend for commercial use and has passing scores with multiple tests at a reasonable price?
At this point I think I would say the Windsor Sensor XP but really I think the whole commercial industry needs a makeover.
this vacuum is so pretty and retro it is making me want it so bad
Get a kirby
Can you please make a video explaining the difference between suction and airflow? or link me something if you don't have the time? Thank you.
I also suggest Vaclab. He has a few videos on the subject, but this is one: czcams.com/video/GSh76b8SS6I/video.html
The basic explanation is airflow is how much air is moved and suction is the sealed pressure (measured in inches of "water lift"). Suction helps overcome resistance and maintain airflow (to an extent) through resistance, lengths of hose, etc.
@@nicholaswilliams1197 Yay! Somebody gets it. 👍
@@nicholaswilliams1197 Thank you very much 👍
Do you have a video abut wet/dry vacuums portable?
small car cleaning ones, but not the full size ones that i know of.
Ugga booga. Ordered for brute tornados man power!
So that extra cfm comes from having no bag. Kirby would have more cfm if you removed the heppa bag.
Oh that's neat I love this it's silent and you don't have to use the hose. Most ones kinda gives me the jitters but it's life. No hose I like that better.
Vacuums are not silent.
I'm still mad the got rid of the headlight and basically killed the blue line
You should try the workhorse.
I second this
I agree we need to see this. Specially with the deep clean test to see if it actually deep cleans well
If you remove the brush roller it will work on hard floors.
The pigtail cord and ergonomic handle are recent additions to this model. Previously this had a gray, non replaceable cord with matching tube-like grip as sc886E. Sc886E was introduced in such form 15 years ago. before that, it had a completely different motor (metal top) and a white cord and grip. I wonder how an older model might impact the review. Obviously the pigtail cord pro is now out of the picture, but if it’s an sc886e we’re talking about that’s the only difference between it and the sc886F
I personally own a 1991 Type B SC886. It has all of the same features the Type E had from the mid 90s until 2008, when they went to the grey features you mentioned. The first two years from 08 to early 2010, the grey Type E still had metal top motors.
TY !!
you are very welcome!
Vacuum wars, please review the pf62 by Powerflite. My choice for janitorial office type carpets for a dozen years now...160 cfm, duel edge cleaning, two fans so suction on both sides. Great HEPA bags, and cheap roller brush and parts!! A.J. P.S. 8 lbs.
O.o tell more...
gees that is interesting. so are their other vacs. 8lbs is light as an oreck. good prices too. $200 for the pf62.
And one more thing can you review the Eureka Airspeed bagged and bagless variants.
This vac is NOT for commercial use! I know a local Thai restaurant used one of these and it broke within 2 months (the vac equivalent of 20 days), that they never used this again. They use a Hoover commercial vac now. :)
I worked in a fast food place that used one. The fan broke once in the two year period that I worked there. But that's an easy fix with these.
I don’t think any direct/dirty air vacuums are good for food service because food and crumbs can be wet and hit the fan. But they should be good for retail, office, and healthcare settings.
Kamaka Chang
1. OK thanks. But maybe Ill convince my Chinese restaurant to buy the Sebo. Which brings me to my next question:
2. I dont mean to be racist, but is that your real name? Again, Im not trying to be rude. :)
@@thereallincolntakanashi 1. I'm really excited for Vacuum Wars to test the Hoover Hushtone Commercial Upright since it's much cheaper than the Sebo. What Hoover commercial vac does the Thai restaurant use?
2. Kamaka Chang isn't my real name just as I assume Lincoln's Aviation isn't yours. I'm American of Chinese and Hawaiian ancestry so I chose names I've always liked that represent both heritages. Kamaka is actually easier to pronounce than my real Hawaiian name. Chang is a common surname so there's probably a few real Kamaka Changs in Hawaii.
I think I’ll get one.
What does it sound like? How loud is it? How many decibels?
I forgot to mention this, but I will bring it up in the final commercial vacuum competition. It was loud, not as loud at the 90 db Oreck but pretty close, I think it was around 86 db I need to look at my notes.
this channel is so good it really needs more subs spend some time on promoting the channel, maybe do a colab with someone (something like "Can a robot vaccuum clean gasoline on fire" etc.
Good idea, thanks!
Yes this is a great Electrolux,Eureka vacuum cleaner but yes Electrolux should have tools for them to use on hard floors otherwise these are good machines and are very popular
2:38 I gotta tell the WatsonsVacuum guy about this!
now you should compare to a vintage hoover and eureka models.
It appears to be basically a modern version of a Hoover Convertible, albeit minus the inner bag. I’ve been using a 1980 Hoover Convertible for years and just picked the bagless version of this Sanitaire the 887 model. We will see how it compares.
Yup! I kept thinking Eureka the whole time!!! That would be cool!!!
The oreck has a Direct air Motor
BEST VACUUMS FOR SCHOOL JANITORS CAW CAW. THE SHAKE OUT BAG IS THE BEST PART OF THE NIGHT CAW CAW.
Next try the NSS Pig vacuum
I believe the oreck xl is a direct air vacuum as most orecks are but you put it in red with the clean air machines when you were comparing the saintare to direct air motors, not really a big deal I'm just pointing it out
Also i still would like to see a windtunnel max bagged review if you could i got the vacuum for my mom for mother's day and I'm just curious what the specs are
Christian orecks are not direct air machines or else the CFM would be significantly higher.
@@topfin8441 I've cleaned clogs out of my grandmothers magnesium and i can tell you it's certainly a direct air machine, it just has alot smaller fan then a Kirby or saintare
This is my girl 😙thanks I’m getting this next payday 💰
I hope you enjoy it!
@@VacuumWars Thanks 😊 I will tell you how she works the room
Keep It Old School 😎👍
Did this sanitaire have the metal motor or the plastic motor
Just saw one at a local janitorial supply store, tested it...
Plastic motor.
None have had a metal motor in almost 10 years, but it doesn't really degrade the reliability, the old style eureka motor used previously was nearly impossible to replace the bearings in anyway with the top one pressed onto the shaft where you would destroy the fan trying to get if off and the bottom one needing quite a bit of work to force it out. I've managed to do it, BTW, don't bother with any of the drill out the rivets style bottom bearing kits, they don't hold up.
I will get the Sanitaire vacuum 1 day
Where is the Sanitaire assembled?
Mexico, though some parts are made in china. The overall tooling hasn't been updated since they were made in the US back when Eureka owned them.
Try a nss vacuum
I can use it for my carpet
Hey mate!!
Can U review Hoover Zenith Cordless vacuum!!
The Zenith is not available in the United States.
@@LlyleHunter Too bad!!
Can you do a shop vacuum series
I have made a note of it!
What is the amount of hair needed to have a decline in pickup ability?
Not sure.
Just cut the hair in the bruah roll then remove no nees to remove the brush roll
Finally!
Combine the SC888 with a Mighty Mite/SC3683B canister and you've got the best set of machines for any task in a home or in commercial. Or if someone wants a lighter, cheaper machine that performs almost as well, the S635 is the way to go.
Great review, man. Looking forward to the Hushtone tests!
I completely agree. In my opinion every house needs an upright and a canister even if the upright has tools. I sent each kid out of the house with a 1934 Eureka Boss upright and a Mighty Mite.
Better for home use is the S677/S675 which is the top of the blue "Professional" line.