This BODY ARMOUR is INSANE (Literally) | Path of Exile
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- A Path of Exile discussion on an extremely underused unique body armour: Doppelgänger Guise and why it's stronger than you think.
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0:00 Introduction
0:26 Doppelgänger Guise
1:36 While Sane Mods
2:26 Forbidden Rite & Boneshatter
2:54 Self Damage Items
3:32 Divine Flesh
4:18 Armour/ES Masteries
4:38 Use Cases
5:27 Popularity
5:51 Doppelgänger vs Fourth Vow
6:37 Conclusion - Hry
I use this chest on a high budget animate guardian.
Yeah I forgot to mention the use on AG, it's really good!
@@dreamcore_gg only thing that kills my AG is Hall of Grandmasters, but that might be carelessness on my part.
@@vincenthufkens7515 HoG is kind of ridiculous anyway, there's not many builds that can do that w/o dying
I usually use a garb of the ephemeral on AG
Me too. If I'm not using grave intentions.
Another thing to note is that armour actually LOSES effectiveness as the damage of hits goes up. So a 20k hit gets through MORE when relying on armour than a 2k hit proportionally would, besides ofc having more damage left over after reduction. Whereas Guises' damage reduction is flat - it ALWAYS mitigates that percentage of the damage no matter the size of the hit, just like resistances do.
Man just found your channel a few weeks back and man... This kind of content is the most interesting thing a PoE player can offer! Keep this amazing job and amazing comparisons! Congraats from Brazil
Appreciate that!
The 10% regeneration can be converted into damage through Rage using Kaom's Spirit and life-stacking. 10k life would be 10 rage per second. This seems like a really good Rage Vortex armour.
Damn nice idea
How would you hit yourself though to ensure it's consistent?
@@flyYyify You could use Echoes of Creation
What a great video. Thanks man. I hope you have a great weekend
damn i never thought that sane/insane is more like a stance skill. i thought it was similiar to guard skills where those juicy defences could only be enabled periodically that why i neve used that chest. im defently making a character around doppleganger now
Because this channel really delves deep into defensive tech - I'd love to see Ivory Tower commented on! We've been discussing mitigating chaos damage via Fourth Vow +DivFlesh, Incandescent Heart with both DivFlesh and CI, Brass Dome, Doppleganger, Petrified blood setups, Transcendence, etc - and you've noted that DoTs tend to be overlooked as a damage source while the focus for many defensive layers looks at hits.
Ivory Tower uses full MoM for chaos damage - with big mana investment, chaos dots just disappear. A comparison with a 'usual' Ivory Tower setup would be amazing.
Loving the content! Keep up the good work!
doppelganger + eternal damnation + divine flesh sound pretty strong
Bring back Sanctum!
I suspect transcendence + loreweave still beats that out with Eternal Damnation for defence. You become invulnerable to every uber attack (except for Eater's Inescapable Doom blast because that just kills you and doesn't do damage).
@@Sidnv the thing with transcendance set up is that its really costly in the budget side since you need to convert almost all your phy to elemental damage .
@@theannoyer2953 Yeah, it takes a lot of investment. I did this last league with Pathfinder, using 18% from the helmet, 23% from Taste of Hate, 28% from Dawnbreaker via double corruption and 24% from Purity of elements watcher's eye. 93% phys conversion was enough to tank uber maven memory game and uber sirus meteor, but it took a lot of investment to get there.
Add Tempered by war on it
Always love your videos!
Played a warcry berserker with echoes of creation, apple shield and dopp’s guise. Was not able to find a replacement for this armour as it was such a great source of survivability. I would say it was BiS for that build.
I used it with Divine Flesh on an Arakaali build back in Lake of Kalandra, they were my only mitigation and it feels like cheating
also can use the es mastery 10% less phys dmg taken while on full energy shield with divine flesh + doppelganger. Divine flesh causes all damage to bypasses es, so you're always at full es
This is true, though I think most builds will use EB to make use of the ES with Divine Blessing and solving mana, but if you don't use EB then that mastery is very good
Unless you're using Eldritch Battery, which I wouldn't dream of using divine flesh without taking the opportunity to reserve all of my mana with no downside.
Yep, using similar tech on my agnostic build since it always count as being on full es
@@bobbermcbobbing6743 I think having no resource means you are never considered to be low or full of that resource. Fe. if you allocate Blood Magic, you have no mana which means you are not considered to be low mana or full mana for the purpose of any modifiers that interact with mana. ES with Agnostic should function the same as this.
@@dreamcore_gg ily, pob counts it as working but i looked around and found a mark reply stating something similar to what you said, thanks for the insight!
Great video as usual!! ❤❤❤
doppelgang+divine flesh.. energymastery 10% less physical taken on full energyshield!:. for 50% less physical dmg taken.. divine flesh makes all damage bypass energyshield. so you are always on full energy. i used this for the first time this league.. such a good uniq.
bruh that's genius
Nice video, as always
Really like how ure highlighting all kinds of unique, makes me want to make a build around it but that means i have to level another character :(
levelin easy man :)1-2 hr
I've been using this together with Divine Flesh, it's pretty good
My dude you gotta make a video running high tier content with this item! SHOW the people it's good, don't just TELL them it's good! :D
Been loving this item. It's definitely underrated. That and fourth vow.
I used this on a Chaos Dot Hexblast Occultist build, one league before they reworked the skill. I've rarely felt this tanky, had max Chaos Res at 88 if I recall - this was a build I pushed to the maximum and was top ladder for Hexblast in LoK with it. Nice to see this pop-up in my recommendations.
P sure a major reason you don't see this as a popular defensive layer is because anybody looking into that kind of thing is just going to do lightning coil and try to convert all incoming into ele instead as it's quite easy to get max res these days.
As a divergent boneshatter player, I used this until untiring became a thing. We no longer really needed the damage mitigation from the guise unless you're more on a budget I'd like to think, but rares end up surpassing this (not in physical mitigation obviously).
We typically try to hit 90 all res or 100% spell suppression (one of the two, 90 all res is more expensive but better), and convert a decent amount of our damage taken to elemental with use of the elemental flasks active to help reduce the damage taken further. Alongside that we use 8% of our 200k-900k (Depending on setup) armour to mitigate the rest of the elemental damage we would deal to ourselves since we have our unbreakable ascendancy. Having the chest be a rare is more beneficial because we can take things like Tasalio from forbidden flesh/flame that combos really well with mitigating our own damage as well as being overall more tanky than tanking other things, since we stand still for long periods of time. Ideally, we'd have a grasping mail with "Armour is increased by overcapped Fire resistance" with the gravacius crafted mod, life, and giving us more potential reservation efficiency and increased aura effect from the eldritch implicits. If you're going for the 90 all ele res, you run purity of fire so the aura effect doubles into giving you an extra % or so of fire resistance as well as increased armour from grace/determ. We also make up for it a decent amount since we can still use IC (MS works well too, but IC is better with increased duration/cooldown recovery). as well as Berserk/have Nature's Patience on at 10 stacks.
Because untiring exists, we no longer need the life regen since we'll be way over 100k life regen and 500k ES regen (We use Corrupted Soul from a Doryani GV paired with Divine Shield usually because its more phys damage we can take).
its awesome to put on your AG
never seen this unique until now
Ive used doppelganger in a couple assassin channeling builds in the past few leagues, combined with arctic armour makes a pretty good replacement for determination, i get why the chest isnt used more often though,, you have to get more life and resistances elsewhere
just saw the thumbnail, gonna watch the video after comment, but doublegangers in ssf i think is insanely rare, but super strong even on non animate guardian characters, i myself dont have a build for it but it realy realy is strong, got one chest the last 3 leagues though, ssf for ever
it can even be utilized by a jugg if they grab iron reflexes to convert the evasion into armor [or potentially a jugg who doesnt take that node but thats crazy XD] ; but ya the strongest use cases are characters who arent going to build any armor and lack physical dmg def layers
I was surviving shaper slams at 3k hp 15k armor with this thing on this season.
Id recommend using gravebind gloves in which kills your minions account for count as killed by you
I'm using it with indomitable resolve with fortify, I can tank shaper slam, and eater slam.
I have a 6L foil from last league. I never got to use it since I got it on the last week of Sanctum.
mana forged, frenzy, cast on crit support, forbidden rite
Don't forget that less is multiplicative, which means the more armour you have, the less effective that unique mod.
I think about making flicker strike build with this unique, but you know, feralsfurr is op for flicker strike but mabe with timeless jewel 9poits a location technologies this will be vialbe or just mabe i try bleed franzy charge? Idn but it sounds cool I think ;p
it's mostly used for AG to make it kinda immortal
Ive been wanting to make builds with this armor for a long time but i was under the impression that the modifiers were on a timer, just like the tricksters Heartstopper, is it actually possible to be Sane or Insane with 100% uptime ?
Yes it is.
On which wesbite can we look up the statistic on player usage of an armor piece? Thank you!
I use poe.ninja on the builds section
The reason it's not more popular on HC Trade is because of availability. There are only 18 for sale in the entire league and none online right now.
This is not really the case though, because even when the league was more active and the price of this unique was around a divine, people didn't buy and play with it
I used dopleganger on ifninite damage boneshatter jugg makes build pop off
damn, my go to defence to slot into any build is now gonna cost way to much :/
I used this in kalandra on my ag which made it unkillable
Gonna try and slot this into my next mahu+tempered build, it's gonna be nuts 😂
Every time I drop this it sells immediately. But it's bought for Animate Guardian.
When it comes to damage mitigation, lightning coil, fourth vow, and incandescent heart are significantly better even talking divine flesh into account. Lightning coil bc of the huge phys taken as elemental that you can then pump up to 100% with taste of hate and a good eldritch implicit helmet with the fractured delve mod of the same type. Fourth vow as you stated it, and incandescent heart with chaos inoculation.
It depends what damage types are being taken into account in all scenarios, fe. Lightning Coil is amazing for mitigating phys damage from hits, but it does nothing for chaos damage or damage over time. The Fourth Vow is going to be largely stronger at mitigating hits(chaos and elemental via DF) but it does nothing for physical damage or damage over time. The Incandescent Heart(with CI) is decent for mitigating elemental hits but struggles against physical damage and damage over time. All of these option have their upsides and downsides, I don't think it's ever really as simple as one being stronger than the other due to how complex the game is and all of the situations you find yourself in.
@@dreamcore_gg true, lightning coil really struggles against damage over time. It's pretty much the only thing that kills my pathfinder. I usually use incandescent heart with an Aegis Aurora and determination, super strong like that, but yeah still die to big hits.
Honestly doppelganger is... Fine. Can't use the life mastery for "if your body armor has no life modifiers." doesn't have any other really useful modifiers, I guess you can save one or two suffixes and maybe some skill points on crit but it's so easy to cap crit and the skill nodes usually have other benefits too.
Doppelganger would be perfect though if it added the Zealot's Oath keystone (or even better The Traitor). Then it would likely be best in slot for a lot of rage based builds with kaom's spirit, low life, coruscating elixir, and the traitor (or Zealot's oath).
@@TheHeroYouDeserve I believe Kaom's Spirit doesn't work with Zealot's Oath, but yeah I think overall Doppelganger is a useful body armour that is very good in the type of build I talked about in the video, one that lacks physical mitigation.
@@dreamcore_gg pretty sure it works, unless that's been changed. Used it for a voidforge rage vortex inquisitor a couple leagues back, huge rage regen and ES still got the bonus.
@@TheHeroYouDeserve It works with Inquisitor's Pious Path ascendancy notable, but not with Zealot's Oath. I believe this is because Pious Path actually mirrors life regen to also regenerate energy shield and become energy shield regeneration as a stat. But Zealot's Oath actually converts life regeneration into ES regen, so it can't convert it as it no longer exists. The mirroring of the regen with Pious Path happens before Kaom's Spirit converts the life regen into rage regen, so you get rage regen and ES regen from your life regen.
I think not many people are using it because I feel like divine flesh is pretty overrated, it is a big opportunity cost to get chaos res capped without investing several dozen divines into gear. Also the body armor slot is pretty stacked since this league is bow league. But I do agree its better on classes without much armor and phys mitigation already, that's probably why its an evasion + energy shield base.
You can play arctic armour with it, it works only for hits and when stacionary, but! But it works when you play flicker strike, so you have than 53%reduction against phys and hits, it's massive with endurance charge combination it's really really good, sadly old version of arctic armour was better gives you 12% reduction all the time not only stacionary, I don't know why they change it it wos just better heh
I've been using it the last few leagues in HC (since they upgraded it), but in this league armour stacking and fourth vow is generally a better option (IMO).
Yeah I think fourth vow is great, but the doppelganger does have some really good DoT mitigation
more critical strike chance is rather useless tbh. People who stack crit, generally cap it, hence that mod is useless as a damage multiplier. Although i like the 40% less damage taken mod.
Why would you use this over brass dome? Pure armour is always better, not to mention crit immune. As a RF Jugg there really is no better defensive armour than brass dome...oh also the +5 to all max elemental resists
this chest in the right setup is broken, i've been theorycrafting a build for a while, but i'm still figuring out the best way to scale damage on it
Does it really work with storm secret rings? does the ring "hit" you ?
It does!
Could be nice with some phys taken as elemental as well. 60% would end up mitigating 70ish percent phys and let you run purity of elements instead of determination. And hit size wouldnt matter. Add in the amulet that allows chaos dots to heal you while leeching and that seems like a decent setup to me
That amulet relies on you keeping up your leech and is much trickier to use than than you might expect. Check out Woolfio's videos on it. It pretty much only works well on some variant of how wardloop builds work.
AG armor
the 10%life in 1 sec is prolly limeted to only one proc per sec ?
What’s the three icons on the left of inventory at 3:27
Sentinels from Sentinel league
This is a maven exclusive drop? I have several in standard and I hate the maven fight so I don't do it. I must have got them from div cards or Einhar.
It can drop from two div cards I believe
Is it viable for Forbidden Rite totems? I mean so they don’t die super fast due to self damage from Forbidden Rite 😅
how do you plan to get your armour to apply to a totem
@@zuikatsu do you mean if the “less physical and chaos damage taken while sane” affects the totems? I have not tested it but I guess that would work.
@@deejay7091 it doesn't work. your totems are not wearing your chest plate.
@@zuikatsu oh ok thanks for the info
Mitigation wise it's less than 4thV and also could make a case for Lightning Coil as it stacks additively with other Phys to ele mods and thus has much more potential.
So this armour is 3rd on the list of tankiness.
4th vow does nothing for phys, coil does nothing for chaos. This does something for both.
Different items are different.
@@requiem4adream33 Yeah it does a bit of both but worse when not looked in isolation (like 4thV with armour and Divine Flesh) so that's why it's less popular.
Does this work with blood rage too ?
Yes it does
Just better chests with fourth vow now and the opportunity cost of this chest is just kind of weak unless it's in unique builds.
If you think it's weak, you're not thinking hard enough.
I think the comparison with the fourth vow is not quite as clean cut as just saying one is better than the other - for a lot of builds that are really 'immortal' against hits, they usually struggle against DoT and the doppelganger helps out a huge amount with that
@@dreamcore_gg I feel like alot of dots can be solved for so this doesn't really fix the opportunity cost issues. There's a reason it's not being used and it's not because it's undervalued.
Divine Blessing, Doppel, Cwdt Immortal call and Fortify - and you feel great. You can also stack Phys as ele here and there, so yeah, good combo that i never use KEKW
Also, back then this armour used to cost 2 divines+ so i get used to this, now its some sort of Based fact that can't get out of my mind. In addition i would like to put it on Caster but people put some ridiculous prices on those +2 gems and more likely not corrupting them (Just +2 Aoe cost 90 Divines, are you god damn out of your mind?).
Also this 10% regen is really really good in combo with Kaom spirit, perma rage is a goat
Not sure what divine blessing does here..
Honestly I think that the lack of understanding of sane and insane is part of why people aren't using this chest. Now that I know how it works I see how good this chest is but I assumed you had no control over the mechanic
the 10% life regeneration can't stack
This is littirally a boneshatter chest piece what the f
0.1% of players using Boneshatter on Crucible SC are using this body armour
The reason no one uses this chest.
It sucks.
all people know who know about it, but now know all, that is disappointment
Yeah it's annoying, but this dude barely has any people watching him, so I'm not that worried
ohhh nooo haha now more people know about this one but its not an item nobody knows about tis not the cheapest at POE ninja but its an underlooked by a lot. I mean whas after this video ;)