Stevie Ray - The Truth About Chyna in WWE
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Title: Stand Up for Greatness w/ Stevie Ray
When: Aug 7, 2017
Featuring: Stevie Ray, Matt Topolski
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This is from Stevie Ray's brand new podcast from Title Match Wrestling Network! Joined by co-host Matt Topolski, Stevie Ray shares his thoughts on the Mae Young Classic and why today's women wrestlers are better than any generation that came before them. Also, the name Chyna is brought up...wait till you hear what Stevie really thinks about her role in women's wrestling! Does she compare to modern names like WWE's Charlotte Flair or Asuka? We're talking Chyna, the Mae Young Classic & much more on this fiery episode of Stand Up For Greatness!
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Title Match Wrestling lmao funny end
Title Match Wrestling gotta get him to stop chewing gum on air
Is it sad that I would rather listen to podcasts about wrestling's good ole days than watch any of today's wrestling??
That's because wrestling now don't have good story lines and you can really see the fakeness
😅 ME TOO
any day .. listening to old school wrestlers talking about all the behind the scenes altercations of matches I remember as a kid ..is way better than watching anything that comes out new today...I look at.the wrestling and I cant watch it for more than 5mins ... sad..😪.. R.I.P to.all the school wrestlers that have passed ..luvv u guys and thanks for all the.good times... 💪🏾😎🤜🏾💥💥💥🤼♂️
So true. You hit the nail on the head.
Facts
You’re not the only one!!!!
Sensational Sherri was the one that paved the way for women's wrestlers she was the one going head-to-head with dudes took bumps that's why she's the goat greatest female manager ever also and you got to add Luna Vachon to the mix
krlm2280 b4 Sherri, it was Mullah and Mae Young. Arguably Chyna wasn’t the best worker, but her personality and strength got her over.
Luna
@@ROSTAFA def not... moolah and mae wrestled at a time when the world couldnt give 2 shits about women's wrestling lol that's was the time u ran to grab another beer
Joshua A on the contrary, they would get called to the ring; see if they can last 10 minutes, get beat up, and sent home crying.
Sherri could do it all. Wrestle, manage, she was amazing. Used to love watching her in AWA.
But Chyna wrestled men
Stevie: As she should have
LMAO 😂☠
I lost it when he said that lol
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Pure savage 😂😂😂
He's right, you know.
Regardless of me disagree with him, i think its really refreshing to see someone flat out give his honest opinions without sugarcoating it to save face. The more i watch, the more i enjoy seeing and hearing what he has to say, even if i dont agree.
Stevie Ray is a very honest man, gotta respect him
I nearly fell over laughing "hardbody Harrison is the guest enforcer "😂😂
Bruh!! I'm in fucking tears!!!
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The Hardbody stuff was gold! Stevie "He's getting out soon." The host "He's serving life in prison!" I died.
Even Stevie tried not to laugh
4:55 LMFAO! All my scenes were cut out of that movie love it.
Jacqueline, Ivory, Molly Holly, Medusa, Jazz, Cloudy, and all of the Japanese women wrestlers back in the days would jam today..
Exactly ....
She should have went the Xena warrior princess route
All my scenes were cut out of that movie! Lol hilarious!!!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I liked chyna...
@Rick Nash I guarentee he does to say some dumb shit like that.
She is a lying vindictive pos that will get a man in trouble for attention I cannot stand people like her.
He was a disgusting, hideous freak. To call that mess beautiful is just stupid.
MrPernell27 yes duuuude
Chyna was over where I lived.
Chyna was awesome!
This is the second time I watched this and tears still started coming out of my eyes in laughter at 7:14 onward.
Me too
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This video is hilarious 😂😭😭
Chyna was a bad ass
LMFAO the special enforcer is Hardbody Harrison
"..we are absolutely certain that all 32 women in the tournament will remain in the building..."
Stevie Ray is Charlie Murphy of Wresting story telling.
RIP Joanie Lauer.A good spirit.I loved those bow legs.
For 1 he claimed she wasnt athletic, she literally had a signature move where she flips from one corner of the ring diagnally to the other corner and you mean to tell me she wasnt athletic? chyna was a woman who they couldnt out in the ring with females because she was too strong, and yet he says these females would run circles around chyna? man Queen Chyna would PowerBomb all of those divas, im sorry but this interview makes me question Stevie Ray.
I disagree...Chyna was hot. Probably the hottest was when she was with Eddie G.
I just threw up in my mouth...
you only remember chyna after the plastic surgery and when she cycled off of steroids! When she first got into the WWE she was like WTF is that! She had a huge square Jawline. That why I think she had surgery to adjust her jawline
I find Chyna attractive even before her surgeries (if not even more) tbh...
@@KuciCicata I Can respect that
@@sonnywoods6846 And i'm going to have to agree with you there on that
Lol.... the David Arquette comparison was spot on!!! 😂😂😂😂👍
That's true
I thought she looked good, probably not so much at the beginning but later she got pretty freakin hot.
After Vince spent all of that money on her face... beginning Chyna had a square jaw...not pleasing to the eye
Yo its hilarious that he got induced to the HOF in the same class with torrie and Chyna lol
LMFAO this is hilarious. Stevie Ray is GOLD! These two have great on air chemistry.
Show was great, was the best yell
Ray checked his ass
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TOOOOO FUNNY!!!!!
Stevie's blunt, but he's right. That being said, I think the women of today owe a debt to Chyna, Sable, etc, because their appeal was based on looks, they were able to garner mainstream attention, which opened doors and made Wrestling for accessible, not just for "Divas", but for the actual female wrestlers as well. Plus, you had some like Trish, who started out as eye candy, and then a solid wrestler in her own right.
I think his point was that if chyna had a sasha banks to work with she wouldve been exposed. It took men to lead her to decent matches
I too "made FUND" of Hardbody Harrison....
I noticed that too lol. "You're making fund of him"
Cash or check lol
C'mon Stevie! Don't run Chyna down like that especially since she's dead. She did exactly what Vince wanted her to do it's not like she wrote her own promos & did her own gimmicks.
It's what she did outside the ring
I THINK sTEVIE rAY SHOT ON cHYNA in this interview. for 1 he claimed she wasnt athletic, she literally had a signature move where she flips from one corner of the ring diagnally to the other corner and you mean to tell me she wasnt athletic? chyna was a woman who they couldnt out in the ring with females because she was too strong, and yet he says these females would run circles around chyna? man Queen Chyna would PowerBomb all of those divas, im sorry but this interview makes me question Stevie Ray.
Chyna was kinda like the Hogan of women's wrestling. She was just a look, and an image, but got over like wildfire. Just like I respect Hogan for what he did for the business, I respect Chyna 💯.
She was an Icon. Ask most fans which ladies wrestler was the most legit. Anyone who was around in the '90s will say Chyna. Not because they know whether or not she could put another lady wrestler in the bow and arrow, but because she was strong and that made her gimmick believable.
She turned out to be a sweetheart, too.
That's because "most fans" have no fucking clue about the history of wrestling. I ask you to look up Mildred Burke. And just because a wrestler has muscles, doesn't make that wrestler "believable." Lex Luger was built like a brick shithouse...unfortunately, he also stank up the ring like one. Scott Steiner wasn't believable because of his frame. He seemed legit because he worked super tight and snug, and looked like he was really trying to cripple his opponent. As for your "icon", I'm sorry, but performing ten backflips in a row, just to "build momentum" and deliver a corner splash, to me always looked fucking awful. And I was around in the 1990s, and I disagree with you. Trust me, a lot of skinny girls in Japan would not only work circles around her, they would have flattened her in a shoot. To me, someone like Bull Nakano looked far more "legit" than a plastic-filled pretender with a rocket launcher on her shoulder.
Hell no. Stop it with that disrespect of Hogan. If image was the only thing that mattered, guys like Chris Walker, Kevin Kelly, and other physique only guys would've been big stars. Hogan had the most charisma of any face in the history of wrestling. How do I know? He went over in three different major territories. This slander of Hulk Hogan in terms of his contribution to pro wrestling is ridiculous.
When it comes to wrestling, honestly. Wrestling isn't the most important skill. Charisma is #1 by far. The Rock and Stone cold had average wrestling ability but great selling skills and a charisma that blew the roof off. Those with the most pure wrestling skill often end up jobbers, due to no gimmick and mic skill.
I think she was the Scott Steiner of women wrestling over the top too far.
A mistake anyone could make.
Lol hahaha this is gold
Although Chyna did not bring in the technical sound wrestling to the women's wrestling, which I think is what he meant, she did, however, become the 1st women in a long time to be taken seriously, there was Bull Nakano, Alundra Blayze, among other female wrestlers who were wrestling like the men, long before Chyna, but the attitude era completely shitted on everything women had done in wrestling. Chyna becoming as big as she did allowed women to be given a second chance, which birthed Lita, Trish, Beth, Jazz, Victoria, Mickie, and all the other women, just like how the NXT women are the reason for the women's revolution now.
WWE never had 32 women wrestlers at one time before lol
This is gold!!!!! 😂😂😂 this show is awesome. The guy comes with shotty facts and Stevie snapping on him for it! 😂
@3:00 that took me out, "as well as she should have" Stevie Keeps it all the way funky. I love it
I would love to hang out with Stevie Ray and have a beer one day. Watching these videos makes me think that he was so under used as a talent in his career. He is hilarious, naturally funny and seems like such a cool guy.
I find it ironic that some people who don't like what Stevie Ray said about Chyna will insult him but they haven't refuted what he said by saying that the majority of Chyna's matches are great.
If you actually critique Chyna's matches, you will find that the majority of her matches were mediocre at best, terrible at worst. When you read the King Of The Ring 1999 review on different websites, people who mentioned the quarterfinal match between Chyna and Road Dogg said that it was bad. People also said that the Intercontinental title match between Jeff Jarrett and Chyna was bad. Even though Chyna was the first woman to enter the Royal Rumble, she eliminated Mark Henry only to be eliminated by Stone Cold Steve Austin, the time span was under 1 minute. The same thing happened in Royal Rumble 2000, but the only difference it that she eliminated Chris Jericho, only to be eliminated by Big Boss Man, the time span was also under 1 minute.
U guys are killing me with the Harrison stuff.
Stevie ray one of the most underrated and underrated players in the game .well spoken
Yeah. Steven Ray is pretty cool
Stevie Ray is hilarious and a Savage ASF 😂😂😂 😂
I always liked Chyna, I thought towards the end of her life she got really beautiful. Crazy the turn her life took. RiP.
I agree, Chyna did hold my attention with her skills. She did surgery on her jaw line to look more feminine later in her career, I was a fan of hers when she broke away from Triple H
dont like what this guy is saying about chyna to me she was good and good looking
After tons of plastic surgery and personal demons
she isn’t an ugly woman at all. Imagine how hot she would have been without testosterone shots and that crap
I can listen to Stevie Ray talk all day. I love this podcast.
"As she should have"
That was a very short and brutal statement. 🤣
Stevie must have never watched Japanese women's wrestling. They have been dominating since the 80's. Dynamite Kid even commented during those days that a lot of them could wrestle circles around the men. Mariko Yoshida, Comando Bolshio, Minami Toyota, Yumiko Hotta, Chigusa Nagayo, Hokuto, Bull Nakano, Chaparita Asari etc. Amazing wrestlers from more than 20 years ago.
I love listening to Stevie.
I truly look up to Stevie Ray
"Make fund of him, you wanna make fund of him" -Stevie Ray
She wrestled men!!!
As well as she should has....
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She did so much steroids and growth hormone she grew a penis and basically was a man.
Yep, Chyna was great for entertainment value, but she was so roided up it would be unfair to fight women... Her she even sounded like a man from the roids/hormones
He's actually saying a truth, in a certain way...
Impressive to look at but ring skills, stiff like her penis. She could pick men up but overall wrestler, not good at all.
Daniel Lee, if you saw her porn, you’d know that penis statement is false.
This to me is the golden years of women wrestling like Stevie said the best of women wrestling ever
PRINCE NEVIAHIA I agree. Women’s wrestling used to be sooooo terrible. Those were bathroom breaks for me (unless Torrie was stripping down) when I was a kid. That’s not the case today.
LMAO!! Was not expecting the Hardbody Harrison gag to continue.
When they brought up Harrison i lost it 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Having watched the attitude era in my teens the must say he's correct on Chyna. It's hard to hear but it's true!!!!!
Exactly, many of these commenters just don’t want to admit the truth but, as someone who remembers the attitude era well, Stevie is right, Chyna was just a gimmick.
Lol back then then most females weren’t wrestling men it’s scripted but Chyna is more of a big name than Beth Phoenix I guarantee you most people know the name Chyna than the current female wrestlers today in my opinion Stevie Ray is just a hater.
Chyna was the bomb she was actually trained by the same coach as triple h which is a well respected wrestling teacher in the wrestling world she worked her butt of before she ever joined WWF so she deserved her spot and she was the first woman in the royal rumble so she was more than just a gimmick that guys a hater. Now let's talk about a real gimmick ,sable . She was never a wrestler had zero training she only did it for the fame she had a pretty face and nice body but she wasn't a wrestler and the only reason she became one was because vince thought she was hot but as far as experience sable wasn't experienced at all
It's way too easy to call Stevie Ray a hater but if you really examine Chyna's run as a wrestler, she was an overrated, mediocre wrestler.
When she was in the 1999 Royal Rumble, she attacked and eliminated Mark Henry, only to be eliminated by Stone Cold Steve Austin 5 seconds later, and she was only in the Royal Rumble for one minute. The same thing happened the following year but she eliminated Chris Jericho only to be eliminated 5 seconds later by Big Boss Man, lasting one minute. There is nothing impressive
about Chyna's total time lasting only 2 minutes. The Intercontinental title matches she was in was forgettable at best and they were not 5 star matches by any stretch of the imagination. The majority of ppv matches were 3 star matches at best. To say she was a gimmick is being generous.
Bigmetroidfan12 well fact is it’s scripted so it wasn’t chynas lack of wrestling that got her eliminated from the royal rumble and again Chyna was lifting dudes up over her head and her good house keeping match with Jeff Jarrett was a damn good pay per view match when she first won the title she worked her ass off even her body was amazing she did all kinds of crazy back flips and everything else and to wrestle with men is a good accomplishment for her and in my opinion she is way better than Charlotte flair and let’s be real Charlotte had connections and lots of help where Chyna started from the bottom the wwe didn’t even want Chyna until wcw expressed interest with her and Shane McMahon was the one who helped Chyna get into the wwe . And even some of the male wrestlers were gimmicks everyone said viscera was a horrible wrestler who use to hurt people when he would wrestle with them . Even the rock was a gimmick all he did was slap and spit on his hand or the rock bottom or people’s elbow or DDT or other than that his talking ability but he wasn’t a spectacular wrestler with a bunch of talent so it wasn’t only Chyna and this guy said he couldn’t sit threw women’s battle royal which is fine but chyna had talent and did a lot in her short time to try and take that away from her is crazy especially when some of the male wrestlers weren’t that good either
Am I the only one that just became a Stevie Ray fan after watching this?? He is hilarious!
Always loved booker. Now i have to slip this man into my #3 spot w him lmao.
Lol completely forgot about the guy...for almost 20 years. I only remember wondering why he didn't come over with Booker in the early 2000s
You are not alone
You two had the best chemistry together for a podcast. Ive seen him do a podcast by himself and with others who dont drink apple juice or water on set but theyre not nearly as entertaining because you’re a funny guy!
I agree with Stevie on the work aspect of Chyna. Chyna didn't really do anything. Her character was that of a body guard. She wasn't really a wrestler wrestler.
FINALLY .....Someone says it !!!! Thank you Stevie Ray !!
Love how X-Pac is always made fun of over the Chyna thing. He was wasted that period of his life. Triple H was with her for 5 years sober....
"She wrestled me"
"As well as she should have" I'm dying
This interview has me in tears
Guess he forgot about Jacqueline, Gail Kim, Bull Nakano, Alundra Blaze, et al if he's saying out of all the women's wrestling he's seen, only today's crop had talent.
You left off Trish Stratus, Mickie James, and Victoria. All better than most on your list except Bull Nakano.
He did not say that. Listen to his words again. He said he's never seen this many good women's wrestling all at one time before. Which is true. I've never seen 12 really good women's wrestlers all at one time. Possibly more than 12 really. When has the WWE ever had 12 female wrestlers that they could look at and say, put together a match and they do it? Before this era of women's wrestlers I would at most they have 4 or 5 at one time.
Alligatorfool Yeah, I was and am a huge Trish fan, but she's highly overrated.
The thing that put her over the top was she was the fulfillment of what Vince had been looking for since the departure of Sable, a female superstar that legitimately looks like a model, but also can isn't afraid to take bumps.
I will say, she's one of the most improved wrestlers I've seen come through WWE. She definitely came a long way. But she wasn't as well versed or as smooth in the ring as, say, Molly. She's great when consider the whole package and the story, but hardly a top wrestler from a technical perspective.
He must ain't see the knockouts during TNA glory days that's where the real women's evolution started at
Smokey Smoo Preach.
stevie ray is the funniest man ever
Gotta love a straight shoot. Thanks, Stevie!
I love these shows they need to make some more
I have SO much respect for Stevie Ray!!!! Dude is smart, articulate, and real.
We saw Chyna mop the floor with Lita and Trish Stratus, Ivory, and go toe to toe with Chyna.
I don't think Stevie Ray has seen Chyna in the ring much, and how could he, in Chyna's hey-day Stevie was on the other program.
Thanks for the video, TITLE MATCH WRESTLING
I love Stevie Ray. He's so much fun to listen.
Gotta love Stevie Ray, he is real.
Chyna was on a different level so theres a difference but, the women who opened doors that often get overlooked was the Original women revolution from 2001 - 2005.
MidwestOutsider707 no.
Naw you have to go back to the 1950s when Fabulous Moolah was running the scene for female wrestlers. Fabulous Moolah became NWA (National Wrestling Alliance) 3rd Woman’s Champion in 1956 and WWF did not exist until 1963. In the 1970’s, Moolah bought the rights to the championship, defending it until she joined WWF in 1983 and unaffiliated it NWA. So no Chyna didn't open doors she was a gimmick during the attitude era and wasn't as relevant after triple H became champion in 1999.
luna, moolah, sherri martel. old skool set the way.
Real tears when he said Hardbody Harrison lmao
Just a legit honest opinion from somebody who has been there done it and seen what it's like and now spits it real without no bias or bs
Stevie Ray is gold!!!
I watched this video today and the discussion about Hardbody Harrison nearly made me spit my drink out laughing.
Man..until I ran across this channel, I completely forgot about Harlem Heat and specifically Stevie Ray. Glad I did
He's funny and seems to have the mentality of Jim Ross. I love people like Booker T and Triple H who are much more progressive and equal these days.
Hahahah I love hearing these two discussing things it's so amusing and interesting thumbs up
So Steive thinks Chyna wasn't pleasing to look at then she wasn't a ground breaking force to reckon with. She wrestled the biggest names and earned the same bruises as many of those in the biz
Stevie looking at this guy like he a fool
Comedy Gold @ 5:40
Stevie Ray and Dave are awesome! This is indeed the best wrestling podcast!!! No doubt! Funny too!
Stevie is just fucking with him simple
STEVIE RAY KEPT IT 💯
I see his point.... IMO the true "mold" for the current Woman Wrestler would be Beth Phoenix, who was strong, beautiful and could GO in the ring
Love Beth Pheonix but she excelled in a weak era of women wrestling. I agree totally. Todays women wrestling is exciting. They're more than gorgeous. Charlotte Flair is my favorite wrestler right now. Not just favorite womens wrestler. Orton held that for a long time.
@@kxwhyknot8314 "they're more than gorgeous" lol.
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@@kxwhyknot8314 I agree! Minus the whole Charlotte thing
No!
I love Stevie's David Arquette rebuttal that was hilarious.
Lita broke the glass ceiling.
ahahaha killed me with the hardbody harrison ahahahaha
Hardbody could box for Real though
greatest wrestling podcast right now
The banter is hilarious XD
Rest In Peace Joanie Chyna Laurer despite Stevie Ray rambling you did add something to WWE
I gotta agree that, for the most part (especially in wwe), the female roster is where it's at 🤘🏻
I agree Steve Ray. Now Woman division is better than ever.
It's a shame Madusa/ Alundra Blaze wasn't in her prime today, she would fit right in. In her prime there wasn't a big talented female roster like it is today.
🤣🤣🤣🤣JESUS LORD HAVE MERCY THE END OF THIS VIDEO WAS PRICELESS
I LAUGHED LIKE A MORBIDLY OBESE MOVIE VILLAIN IN THE 1970
RIP Chyna But When He Started Talking About Her Man I Was Dying
Ok I just burst out laughing enforcer for mae young tournament 😂😂😂
Stevie Ray is still huge!
'All my scenes were cut out of that movie.' Hahaha!!
Wow I disagree with Stevie Ray comments on Chyna Joanie Laurer
Looking at the history of the sport Sensational Sherry and Luna did more, and you can even throw the Fabulous Mula plus Mae Young.
@@Jburneyjr Yes! They actually wrestled! Chyna was really the body guard to Triple H. After that gimmick was over that was it for her. I know she took their break up hard as well but her body of work in wrestling isn't like the women you named.
I'll put it like this the chicks in this era of wrestling are gladiators. I totally agree with Stevie Ray their Fighters it's a reason they got a female war games now a match you would have not saw Sunny China or Sable in 🤷♂️
I’m so glad I came across this I can’t stop laughing!!!!
They could make that same Hardbody Harrison joke every 10 min and I'd laugh every time
When they joke about hard body Harrison I can't help but lmao.
Stevie must have forgotten being managed by Sherri, one of the most underrated female talents in wrestling
The Hardbody joke had me in stitches :)
I miss these