Active and Passive Nihilism
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In this lecture we look at the emotional dimension of nihilism, secular ways individuals use to avert nihilism, and Nietzsche's interesting demarcation between active and passive nihilism.
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Nietzsche and Nihilism:
Lecture 1: • Introduction to Nihilism
Lecture 2: • Suffering and the Mean...
Lecture 3: • Nietzsche and the True...
Lecture 4: • Nietzsche and the Deat...
Lecture 5: • Active and Passive Nih...
Lecture 6: • Overcoming Nihilism
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I tried and had trouble with your paetron.. I'll keep trying. ♡
Let's be honest about something if you have power and wealth in life is Meaningful or if you have a good family around you but knows people don't have either so for the most part life is pretty much meaningless too many innocent people suffer too many bad people prosper so what you're saying is only true for a small number of people
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I didn't grow up having a false meaning implanted in me (I wasn't indoctrinated into a religion although my family members were religious). So the conclusion that I came to is that there's no objective end goal or meaning. You just exist and choose what you want to do based on circumstance. I don't think it's depressing or soul crushing, but the ultimate freedom.
+artboy598 THANK YOU! Someone finally said it! Religious people never notice they can only hold on to their illusions by slandering and discriminating against others, but gee I'm the bad guy when I call them out for their shenanigans. End goals and meanings are subjective, although we can still make predictions on what we think can logically occur in reality. I think people who have a realistic perception of reality will be more creative with it.
+artboy598 Lucky you. My father constantly brings up the times I was baptized and was called a "pastor" by some of his friends (aka complete strangers to me), refusing to accept my belief in another meaning to life other than the god he gives all his praises and money to. I think I'd rather have him disown me than put up with his shit any longer.
how come that's good? you eventually die and your body will rot, is this your stupid ultimate freedom?
parsa fakhar yes as you are not bound by rules that control you through the promise of paradise
parsa fakhar you're not bound by psychological concepts that you cling to. Therefore, you are free to spend your time on earth doing what you want without having to conform to psychological needs such as religion. But that is only my opinion, as a free thinking individual.
great series of lecture man. really has me hooked
Nihilism is an aspect of the mental condition, To regard yourself as a nihilist is contradictory to nihilism. When a human being hears the word meaningless it sparks feelings of negativity through conditioning, as a universal whole what is a human? What is the universe to a human? The person gives itself a meaning beyond the paradox of right and wrong. I have my meaning, you have your meaning, Nietzche had his meaning, but what is meaning in regards to everything around us. Nihilism is the acknowledgement of this, and because meaning has no universal structure in the individual, it is by its own definition meaningless and left to the individual to write himself, not to be written for him by another individual.
+Gypsy J Moral relativism basically.
+Belladonna X. Well not exactly, moral relativism is the result of nihilism. But not all moral relativists are nihilists.
Very interesting point my friend, very accurate but I feel its missing one insight. Most modern men are not capable of thinking for themselves, which by the way is pissing me off. The work of Nietzsche is to shed light on human traits that most have and be able to criticize ones self and maybe achieve inner peace or go about changing the world.
This does not negate the idea that there is no real right or wrong, so everything is relative and up for grabs. So why not try to live a better life by changing prospective.
please feel free to criticize my ideas, or correct me based on your point of view. I would like to hear your prospective.
Well I do consider my self to be nihilist because though i understand life is meaningless I choose to find it personal meaning through my experiences and choices which would be active nihilism o so I understand.
We can come to the conclusion for ourselves what meaning is to us but we can't conclude that life has no meaning. For the act in which one can be defined presupposes the fact that there is meaning behind it.
This is a great video on nihilism! for someone who walked this path (and still is on its last active phases) I think your explanation is really simple to understand and has a great balance of the contents presented. It helped me review my whole process, thank you :)
I want to take a moment to say that this series of lectures is top-notch, great work guys!
When it comes to active nihilism I want to recommend the work of Max Stirner, his philosophy of "egoism" demonstrates how an individual can live a good life without any higher principles above him.
These talks are fantastic. Thank you so much for bringing this information together and presenting it in such a digestible manner. The information is both enlightening and useful.
cant thank you enough for these videos. I love you so much thanks
Oh, and thanks for the videos! I've really enjoyed watching them so far. They have been quite informative! I hope you will keep up the excellent work!
That is a really excellent summary. Congratulations on being accurate on a complex topic.
it bothers me that this video presents one man's opinion of nihilism as absolute. not all people with nihilistic viewpoints are suffering or are depressed by it. some of us recognize that there is no purpose to life and see that as liberating. it allows us to seek our own purposes past what some force greater than ourselves imposes on us.
+Dennis Mayfield I never present it as absolute that's why the series is called Nietzsche and Nihilism, it's based on Nietzsche's ideas on what nihilism is.
+Dennis Mayfield Also Nietzsche did think nihilism was liberating, he thought it cleared the way of old stagnant meaning so one can find a new meaning to life. So I'm not sure what your issue is.
"No meaning" but your "own purpose" is possible! That is one twisted logic I think! If life has no meaning. It means to me that you can create one without being deceived by it. So "no meaning" is valid in the past in the future. It s an impossibility. It is nothing of a liberation in this sense. Your nihilism seems to be a sort of pessimism (Schopenhauer). with sartre bad faith. "Life has no meaning" but "I can create my own" seems like "This cake needed to be eaten so I eat it". really tautological circular logic. seems really absurd. It appears it will always justify one's action. So I ask myself now... are all nihilists (in this sense) extreme moralists at the end? because this is a very totalitarian thought!
+Harpo
Depends on what you mean with "extreme moralist"..... The idea that you are the one that gives the value to things, can be indeed used as an excuse to justify your every action. But more than some simple justification, its a way to say that value is subjective. That something might matter to some individuals but maybe not to others, or that its more valuable in a certain situation but not so much in others.
Like for example, someone that thinks that love is objectively the most valuable thing in life, would think that it is the case for everything and everyone (contrasting opinions being brushed aside as untrue) even in a scale a as a big such as the whole universe (regardless of the situation).
But someone that believes in subjective meaning on the other hand, would acknowledge that ones love might not matter squat to people that do not care, or to the world as a whole. But instead, ones love is mostly/only important to the people involved, which in that case is what matters (since its only the people involved that find the love in question meaningful).
Harpo very true.
Wow. Watching this after 10 years…Concisely explained, absolutely brilliant.
Simple and easy to understand.Good work,man.kudos.
I’ve been struggling for over half a month now on why am I struggling to find meaning in my life, and I stumbled upon the word "Nihilism", and for some reason, it clicked in my mind, as I never understood why I was feeling a constant feeling of tiredness and uselessness in the actions I do every day, my activities no longer proving to be enjoyable, and I struggle to get through the day.
Nihilism, i feel, is a blank canvas. I think most people upon experiencing Nihilism, normally become depressed and ask "if life has no meaning, why live?" But for some Nihilism leads them to say "why not?" But the question of "why not" does not apply universally. One may use that logic to say "well, why not murder, rape, and pillage?" To which one may answer "why do these things? They do nothing but cause meaningless suffering to others, and you gain nothing but material riches and pleasures which are themselves also meaningless and very temporary."
It is of my own philosophy that since we're all trapped in this meaningless existence, we may as well work to make it better for all. Most modern suffering is absolutely unnecessary, and can be done away with. We owe it to ourselves, and to those around us, to take this meaningless prison, and shape it best we can into a pleasant vacation of conscious thought. A short break from oblivion, before we inevitably return back to it.
And seeing as how this existence is short, we should try to do all that we can to experience it, and to help others experience it also.
For that reason, i throw in my support behind movements that i feel might make this happen, yet i do not see it as something that adds meaning to my life, or that adds a sense of community, but rather as a goal to passively pursue. Does this make me a Passive Nihilist? A believer in the temporal true world of a better future? Or maybe something else?
Depends on how you plan on doing away with suffering. Are you going to do it the communist way?
@@DivineOwnageEVE Obviously. A lot of our issues of modernity stem from the Capitalist system, and it's affect on our culture, and our psychology.
@@thevoiceofthelost I meant that as a rhetorical question... communists have killed over 100million people in the past century. A north Korean holocaust is happening right now. What makes you think that your communism will be any better?
@@DivineOwnageEVE You get that 100 million figure from the black book of Communism? You mean the work that has been thoroughly discredited by every major historian? Even the Anti-Communist ones?
And besides, every five years you get 100 million dead under global Capitalist hegemony due to easily preventable deaths caused by disease, poor nutrition, and imperialist war, so even if that number was correct Capitalism has killed far more than Communism ever will.
And lastly, Noth Korea Isn't even Communist anymore, they're a straight up red Fascist dictatorship, and they were made that way when America flattened all of their infrastructure and killed 1/3rd of their entire population. It's not like Kim Ill Sung woke up one day and said "You know what, I want a totalitarian dictatorship." Nothing happens in a vacuum, and I recommend you brush up on not only the historical context that these earlier Leninist experiments existed in, but also familiarize yourself with better historians who don't wear their biases on their sleeves.
@@DivineOwnageEVE And to answer your question, the Zapatistas, Rojava, Vietnam, and Chile for a few years before we brutally couped them, all had Communism without totalitarian authoritarian aspects, so those are my inspirations for a better world. What's yours?
I have for a few years now, played a little with the thought of nihilism, but never really come to any real conclusions. Not until some time in the begginning of january 2014...
Anyways, I don't see nihilism as a transitional stage. I see it as the end point. The biggest truth, wich comes from acknowlegdement of everything's worthlessness. Morals are subjective, and for that reason, there are no "truths" to be found in morals, and for that reason, our society's idea of ethics, is an illusion, based on feelings, and empathy, which are subjective things...
As for the part about "meaning of life", I don't consider myself neither a passive, or active nihilist. Since I, for as long as i can remember, has disputed religion, and the belief in these; "true worlds", so my acknowledgement of nihilism, didn't lead me to join some political party, or something like that, to find a new purpose with my life, but nor have I any intention on seeking out the "real" meaning. Because... As I see it, there is no actual meaning. For there to be a universal meaning, something in the very fabric of the Universe, as you say, it would have to be objective, and I lack the evidence and proof that such a purpose exists.
Based on that, one would have to conclude, that this is the biggest of truths. That life is without purpose, therefor humanity is without purpose, and thereby degrading the value of human life from the most important thing on the planet, to worthless.
QWERTYUIOPASDFGH2675 I always negate the negativity with my own idea that yes, we are inherently meaningless in the cosmic, macrocosm of the universes but we do have relational meaning to each other on the microcosm of earth. For instance, one individual may impact the entirety of another human, which is meaningful in its relational to the function of the microcosm. Active nihilism paired with the notion that moralitys purpose is to maintain human life and not to subject people to stringent values is a comforting, less weary approach. What do you think?
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your name is the expression of the modern human condition itself. Half organic, half mechanical beings tied to a set of buttons called keyboard in order to continue their existence in the virtual realm. A beautiful and poetic name!
QWERTYUIOPASDFGH2675 you are 100% a passive nihilist
How is active nihilism bull? I think it describes my experience accuratley
Then you are bull...
We are the beginning.
Embracing the tide of active nihilism is extremely brave.
What kind of nihilism is he referring to? existential nihilism? I am an epistemic nihilist, so it is my experience that, although I am attempting to communicate meaningful data, I do not have any idea as to whether or not I am actually communicating said data, meaningfully. I see this being due to the following:
A) Being limited to the confines of our experience
B) Possibly being unable to conclude with certainty anything beyond experience
C) Unable to even conclude my previous statement with certainty, which may in fact, lead us to find some certainty one day
I am curious as to whether or not C accurately reflects reality, but I'm not exactly sure I can "know it" or even sure I know what it means to "know".
I am uncertain.
lol.
***** you win the internet today, Vededron.
You still fall under existential nihilism with how you are conflicted and more.
You can attempt to add another label onto it to seem different or whatever you were aiming at but you are having an existential crisis, so to speak
wow, this describes the last two years of my life pretty good... I don't feel like I'm at the end of the journey though...
@ Dante, If you are in a University, make sure you have gotten this lecture Peer-Reviewed. My University does not accept this as a source of citing in essays. However, assuming that you have read Nietzsche work, and your head is melted, this utube broadcast is your savoiur. I thank all who helped in creating this .
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Cool. I really appreciated this video. It really emphasizes what one can take and create through nihilism through their own personal and emotional understanding.
Although I do believe nihilism isn’t self destructive or a sign of recession through one’s self but that it is a point in which the individual hasn’t found personal meaning in life through their own perspective.
Nihilism cannot be positive or negative as it is devoid of meaning itself so any negative or positive aspect we aim towards it, isn’t a sign of nihilism but what we interpret it to be.
Which was explained here as active or passive nihilism.
However nihilism itself is just facing reality poiny blank without meaning, or judgment, or moralization, or anything that we as humans come to understand but it is accepting things as they are from an observational perspective in which nothing is placed onto something but observed as its own entity and nothing can be said or explained about it. It just coexists with us in this universe.
Consciously I am aimed more towards active nihilism and find it more fitting for myself and my individual goals and desires.
Thanks for the video. It was a great way to further understand this topic
I remember reading about this is Michel Haar's essay, Nietzsche and Metaphysical Language, in Allison's, "The New Nietzsche."
If I remember correctly, Haar suggests three distinctions, rather than two (or rather, technically two, but in three stages, with "active" nihilism getting refined in a crucial way in the third stage).
There is first the "active nihilism" of, say, the preacher, who invents moral masks in the spirit of "ressentiment" that will provide 'local' meaning and bolster personal agendas, etc. But, crucially, a) the 'local' meaning is still in the service of (means to ends toward) some 'global' meaning that they can't explicate, or may not even be aware of. The lack of awareness makes it confabulation, at best. This is the first stage.
Then there is the second stage, "passive nihilism," or "the last man," which is closer to the conventional definition of someone who "is aware of their moral-bankruptcy, absence of any meaning, and doesn't care."
Then there is a refining of the first stage, which I think Haar (or another writer, it escapes me now) refers to as Dionysian. Where the spirit is 'active,' but there's an awareness that the creation of 'local' meaning has intrinsic value that doesn't require some 'global' (absolute) meaning to justify it. Indeed, there is no 'global' meaning at this stage.
No, if I understand this correctly, a nihilist isn't someone who sees no meaning in life at all, but someone who derives no meaning from any 'true world'. So an active nihilist would then be someone who moves beyond this recognition, and yet seeks meaning in this here only life we DO possess.
And personally, I do prefer the idea of SEEKING meaning, rather than CREATING it.
I'm pretty sure that Anthony Flew was an atheist. And then went ...senile? Who knows.
Well, maybe for Nietzsche. I've been a bit of a nihilist for a long time, and there are many, many ways of being so. I see no convincing evidence of an overriding truth in the universe (that I can understand). But there is meaning: mine! I am a human, so I take what might be the real world and convert it into a series of simplified patterns so I can function within it (because the human brain is much too small to note every detail of every thing and action, we have to stereotype and group, and act like we're right). That's ok. Just because, I don't think the universe is made of love (necessarily, but who knows?), doesn't make my love for people, things, and ideas any less special to me. My nihilism makes it so I can respect other people's beliefs more.
I should emphasize that I like to call my view kind of a agnostic nihilism. Everything seems pretty subjective, but who knows? I think the who-knows has always been my favorite part.
And that's fine but you have to accept that these things being "special" to you is an animalistic tendency and has no meaning, permanence or importance. You can still indulge yourself in ignorance and delude yourself that family/friends/whatever matter. Everyone does it, I do. But you (and everyone) reach this conclusion by means of sentimental thinking, which is no better than saying "it is this way because I want it to be". You cant apply sentimental thinking to philosophical questions.
I hope you don't think I'm attacking you in any way, that was never the intention. I'm simply saying that you reach this conclusion because it is apparent in your perspective. The perspective of a human. And the universe and existence don't change around your perspective.
Your comment still falls under the term for passive nihilism but it doesn’t mean you are negative in any way but that you haven’t found your meaning of what is in life.
Saying you only accept your human capabilities is just you accepting that you are human and limited to what is put in front of you.
However to look past that is what Nietzsche is emphasizing here.
That as an active nihilist, you will push yourself to your ultimate true goal and being of yourself and that your pursuit is all your own and that you own your own livelihood and that your perspective is beyond what others believe or want you to believe.
It is 8 years so if you see this and things changed good for you and keep pushing forward to your utter best
in a life mirrored by infinite possibilities we are left with a tool capable of carving out a river for the energy that flows through us all. Life flows like water, always taking the easiest route and always forming to it's container (in our case, society). Those who recognize this power build the society around them, and those who don't are left to fill the glass of another's making
Yet in taoism purposelessness is seen as a good thing. Could you do lectures on eastern philosophers? Lao tse, buddha, confucius, etc?
Identity related to things one hasn't accomplished is a laughable form of self-overcoming. Nietzsche was very specific in pointing out that it is inner and outer progress that defines one's self. The meaning in life is the one we impart into our own experiences and what we do to impact others: to which end we must be mindful and vigorous.
It's much more about self-cultivation and social impact by my interpretation, with far more parallels to Buddhism than to extreme post modernism.
No.
It is basic human need.
We always have an inner want or sense of fulfillment that we want to make us further our pursuit into better livelihood.
So to put it into a way people can simply understand, Nietzsche pointed out that what you achieve and can achieve or strive to achieve is the ultimate goal for an individual.
Yes that pretty much is what people strive for in the end, that we are physically capable of.
So to work on one’s own self is the best way to find who you really are and you do that through achievement or trial and error or something that keeps you going forward towards an end goal
That's not a solution but a workaround. He just changed the definition from an objective meaning to accepting that it doesn't exist and that one has to find their own subjective meaning in life instead.
#SelfCare
Love your old videos.
by active / passive, is Nietzsche proposing that to actively engage with Nihilism is to one day overcome it, whereas to passively engage the idea is typical of somebody unable to fathom its depths?
I don't see nihilism as something to be overcome, making me something of a passive nihilist I suppose, but the idea of joining some mass movement seems as pointless as anything.
Just realize one of the most popular phrases I heard of in my youth was YOLO... Didn’t here that 1000 years ago or if u did u were in a cell or some shit 😂😂😂
Can we get something on the Frankfurt School, please?
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3:00 avert nihilism thru secular alt
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This a great video, but the transition into the finger really got me lol
I laughed at 2:28 when you zoomed in on that finger 😁
I am an active nihilist and didn't know until now.
Yes it is, everything they enjoy, is a confession!!
perhaps dropping his ideals is why he related to a horse drawing a carriage. He could finally relate to livestock.
As an active nihilist, I still find this ridiculous, it all leads me back to psychopathy which was the force I was trying to transcend. We are chaos, thats all that will ever be, along with our delusions and psychosis.
i Love this pleasure of knowledge .
The more and more I read this the more I start to understand why Christians get worried when people say they'll "Go their own way and create their own meaning." If a man were to create his own meaning it devalues all the teachings the bible has to offer, and thus renders it obsolete. We create our own meaning and in a way become our own Jesus Christ like figures. That's my take on the whole matter. I could be completely wrong here. Or I may be onto something.
Nihilism is not easy thing to deal with ...
Having gone through nihilism I find it a funny idea. If there is no meaning, then why am I looking for it? Is this a bug of my software or a feature? If there was no need for food, I would not get hungry. Often when you do not find food around you try to find seeds and cultivate it, or kill a beast. Failing to do that, you die. The modern world has removed the idea of creating sustenance sources, so if we search for food in the supermarket, why wouldn't we search for meaning in what is provided to us by way of media? It is a natural choice for a person sleepwalking through life. Shame that it ends up with a majority of people becoming narcissistic, sociopathic, neurotic, psychotic and barely alive, as a reflection of the profoundly sick society they've adjusted their being to.
Yepp, why would evolution create the possibility to reflect on it (with often strong emotions/reactions) if it wouldn't be beneficial for survival ? In the human evolution, cognitive characteristics (in this context different aspects of awareness) have developed, it has not in the animal world. The purpose is the same as with physical properties,
to make the species survive as long as possible in the star system, and in a higher sense to keep the universe aware of itself (otherwise it becomes meaningless). One can think that this has happened randomly (the existence of the evolution process itself, stars -> planets -> life -> intelligence/awareness). I would say that it seems much more likely that "something has thought something", that a vision developed in the cosmic energy soup before Big Bang, and that "something" transformed itself into the physical universe with an evolutionary vision. In other words, a true universal meaning does not require something supernatural. This is called pandeism (more exactly evolutionary pandeism, humanity as an extension of something which itself evolved, and transformed itself to become able to experience things more fully than as an immaterial "cosmic energy soup").
any one ells insulted about what he thought about passive nihilism as a disease,i have many goals that i drive towards every day, i have never tried to cling onto mass moments to try and find meaning, im not depressed by my views at all and i would argue that "leaving nihilism behind himself" is simply ignoring what he during his nihilistic faze because he did not like what his be-leaves did to him so he abandoned them for his the thought that life is infinity important something i few as an extremely egotistical view that have as a living being
+William Harding I also happened to disagree with Nietzsche on passive nihilism based on a psychological standpoint. Although, I do understand his possible concerns about passive nihilism, I don't take him seriously because his argument's logic against passive nihilism may be based on poor grounds and perceptual evidence to support his confirmation biases against passive nihilists. He is judging the majority of passive nihilists based on the ones seem to stick out from the bunch. I imagine most passive nihilists simply live their lives out like every other modern person.
Exactly what happened with me through addiction then I realized it was wrong then one day I just started running every single day even tho I was still getting drunk even before I ran lol but I ended up transitioning to be so grateful
Self and No Self are of the two sides of the same coin - The Objective
Ego - Self is The Subjective. Or it can be the other way round, depending on your perspectives.
Does it make sense?
+alfie mikhail I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but from my understanding. A subjective position is one based on personal experiences not necessarily correct and objectivity is a quality of a position where the same conclusion can be reached about a position from any observation. For example, opinions are subjective because the truth value of an opinion cannot be demonstrated practically at all times, an opinion becomes an objective fact when it can be demonstrated from any point of view to arrive as the same conclusions.
I might be affirming your comment more or less.
+Jackboy019 Thanks for the reply. English is not my mother tongue. Therefore, I'm not that good in communicating my ideas in English.
Opinions are part of or subset of The Ego-Self. Opinion changes depending on perspectives. Therefore, The Ego-Self changes as well. These changes are what I meant by The Subjective.
The concept of "subjective" exist. Therefore, the concept of "objective" must also exist, as a negation for the former concept.
I believe that beyond The Ego-Self exist "something" within us, which is The Objective, "something" which is unchanged.
Some people called this objective as No Self, some people just called it as Self.
Most people only managed to see things from the point of view of The Ego-Self, but some people managed to "see" things from the perspectives of No Self/Self. These gifted people is what I believed called as the mystic/sage. Sorry, my comment may not actually related to nihilism
Bravo!
death gives my life meaning
@djf750 No it does not. Death is just the ending of life. One could just as easily assert that birth gives meaning to life.
@@wesbaumguardner8829 you can’t say no. that’s his thoughts , it isn’t something to argue nor agree or disagree with. it is what it is for him.
@@silk3142 No. Look, I just said it. No. Oops, I said it again. People often ascribe meaning to the meaningless. Does a volcano erupting mean that God is angry? No. It is just a natural geologic phenomenon. Does the ending of life give meaning to life? Ask the bacteria and mildew you just bleached into oblivion while scrubbing your bathtub.
@@wesbaumguardner8829 A Volcano erupting could mean God is angry there is no truth it’s simply what you choose it to be. If Death gives his life meaning then that’s the meaning of life for him.
@@silk3142 If there is no truth, there can be no meaning as there could be no truth in the statement that a thing or event has meaning.
So the Ubermensche is someone who must be an active nihilist? I see why it is something so rare
Great stuff ❤️🔥
By the way if there is a meaning to life then it undoubtfully must be to do what you like and makes you feel/think that life is worth living. And a lot of money isn´t that bad! The only reason people say that is because it creates a lot of envy and anger in the people who does not have any. But look at them what happens when they win let´s say 20 million in somekind of game. The first thing they do is to quit their job (which they´ve always hated), and do all the things they´ve not been able to do earlier. So don´t come here and say that money can´t create happiness. It opens up for a lot of opportunities. It can´t buy you happiness that´s true. But create the foundation for happiness is absolutely possible...
I used to have nihilistic thoughts....but i realised there was no future in those.
🤔🤔 is joke???
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My guess is, human's existence is mere biological more than 'spiritual,' means that while animals existence might look useless, they play a major role in the food chain and overall natural system. Carnivores are fed from omnivores which are fed by plants which in particular are feeding from ground minerals. Humans are just a part of the food chain and the overall nature system which, in a way or another, or contributing in this huge system. So in short, humans are smart animals who will live for about 100 thousand years to be existent and replaced by other leading class.
It is strange, since I have given my meaning to myself, attached to my family, then attached to the whole purpose of humanity. Whatever that purpose would be, if there is one at all, I give it a shot. My life being just one, maybe blind, trial of aiming towards that purpose. Like a blind man with a bow and arrow, although he may have the ability to aim his shot, he is blind to see the true target of the arrow. I, although I can have a specific aim that aligns my life to strive towards it, am still blind to what the target or purpose life has set. That is if there is any meaning to life. We might be so blind that we may already be fulfilling its purpose, along with the rest of the living things in this planet. Maybe living is the purpose, nothing more.
It's the search for meaning making life worthwhile not finding it.
True that, the journey is the fun part. You get to explore and find things that you would never otherwise imagine.
2:58 consumerism
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3:50 a nihilist contemporary movement or cult would be mgtow/feminism?
ethics >essence|| NZ=nonessence>nihilist?
read 1984 - you will find meaning backing away from hell. I like the phrase, ""Man was born to hunt and kill." it just isn't a high statement like we are all children of God.
what a great time to be alive
I hope you’re still around for the glorious shit show we have wandered into since two years ago! Every day waking up to a new adventure!
authentic acceptance works ways likes cognitive sonance wherein poetic justice attendence. there is lot of ocd self dialogue not nessecary chritisism. inconvrinience n reluctancy as supposed self devote n compromise to the more achieved, purified n ideal diciplined .... its a process...
Why would evolution create the possibility to reflect on it (with often strong emotions/reactions) if it wouldn't be beneficial for survival ? In the human evolution, cognitive characteristics (in this context different aspects of awareness) have developed, it has not in the animal world. The purpose is the same as with physical properties, to make the species survive as long as possible in the star system, and in a higher sense to keep the universe aware of itself (otherwise it becomes meaningless). One can think that this has happened randomly (the existence of the evolution process itself, stars -> planets -> life -> intelligence/awareness). I would say that it seems much more likely that "something has thought something", that a vision developed in the cosmic energy soup before Big Bang, and that "something" transformed itself into the physical universe with an evolutionary vision. In other words, a true universal meaning does not require something supernatural. This is called pandeism (more exactly evolutionary pandeism, humanity as an extension of something which itself evolved, and transformed itself to become able to experience things more fully than as an immaterial "cosmic energy soup").
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Anyways, if this is not true, it is more pragmatic to believe that it is true anyway, otherwise it is like behaving like a flying bird species which decides not to fly, just jump around on the ground. Every species is programmed to use its full capability, in our case it also means to keep max motivation for survival, that is done by having a universal purpose.
I wonder if it ever occurred to Nietzsche that the people he regarded contemptuously as mindless herd animals, had maybe struggled with their own then-unnamed existential Nihilism in the face of scientific advancement, and had simply done what he proudly 'discovered' and wrote in his book -- found their OWN meaning in life -- WITHOUT his (I imagine condescendingly) having to tell them to?
Maybe they just had enough humility to not feel they had to write it down and tell everyone else about it.
Wish Bruce Lee was here, because he would say: " - To Hell with circumstances. I create opportunity!"
How does one go about to reference these lectures and the quotes from others within them?
So Miley Cyrus is an active nihilist, or last woman?
As someone who went from catholic to nihilist to communist to pursuing an ideal which does not have a name yet, this all sounds strangely familiar.
And so, I got the sudden feeling I have written this comment before but decided not to post it.
Incredible.
I'm a universal nihilist but a personal hedonist lol. Life is ultimately meaningless but I might as well have fun until I'm dead since i'm going to die anyway.
PaiN ExoTiC bollocks your are not you have found meaning in hedonism, which means you were an active nihilist.
Every nihilist is depressed but not every depressed person is a nihilist.
Thank You for the great videos! ♡I was raised Lutheran. But came up with my own questions as to: God is Love.. then then how could there be a Hell? If we're all redeemable how are some of us irredeemable? And one of the biggest ones of all is.. not answered. Heaven to Me, Is just that, Heaven to me.
Heaven to you isn't mine. System Failure. That burning question. Then Baptists.. (no offense) This one was huge) They do not believe animals have soul. To me, Religion is (sorry) a nice term for it BS. God is Inside You.
I think that this is my mass movement 9:40 philosophy.Im 19.Ive been in a sence of meaninglessness since 15.other the year i numb the pain with videogames porn and school.How will i find the meaning of my life?I have no idea.
I'm a Nihilist. its pretty strate forward that there is no objective morals and that morals are purely subjective.
Guys I don’t think Jesus is okay 😟
is the gay science a good starting point for reading nietzsche?
+Albin Marklund It is as good a place to start as any other. I think that may have been where I first started reading Nietzsche.
Thanks!
have an ultimate goal and it's not the achievement of the goal that is important but the process of trying to achieve it will make you a better person that's the real goal? I feel like I've been taught by nihilists my whole life. Okay. Fine! What delights my youthful soul is art and freedom. I want to an artist that illustrates comics, paints, sculpts, creates pornographic pop up cards, dances ballet proficiently and ages like Chaundo Tan. Take that Nieztche!
My case of nihilism is super simple. There's no universal meaning to life, there's no good and there's no evil, beauty and ugliness are just ideas, created by human mind (also meaningless) and present only within human mind, and nothing, absolutely nothing, not even existence itself is significant.
We agree on this point. I think we all forget though that we are just another species on this earth, and our most apparent goal is to thrive. I get that nothing is significant, but that doesn't mean that exploring is not a good goal to live for. And that's what this guy is talking about.
At the end most of our lives don't matter on the grand scheme of things, but we can focus on our selves as humans to help the whole thrive.
let me know what you think.
Obviously, such thoughts have crossed my mind. But I ultimately came to the conclusion that living for some goal and having no goal at all are equally meaningless. Surviving, thriving - why do this? On the other hand why not? BTW whenever I say "meaningless", or "insignificant" I don't mean that it's bad. Even if a person's life bears no great value in "The grand scheme of things" it doesn't mean that we, humans, aka things just as insignificant, are bound no to think of it as something worthless. If it were the case why wouldn't everybody just commit suicide? I saw a painting yesterday. It was beautiful and I acknowledged its beauty, even though I did understand that my view is purely subjective. So, to sum it all up, I agree with you
don't forget to recycle...
I am trash i. In other words your just another nihilist yawn
I believe the only meaning is what you think
Just my thoughts, but, I think that at least some atheists (not all) must be quite arrogant and closed minded. For those atheists it has led them to believe that no intelligent beings other than man, and no theories other than the scientific ones (that they know of at this point) are responsible for pretty much everything that all people experience, sense, learn, etc. That arrogance is the same as any persons in a religion, a political faction, a special interest group, and on and on who believe the same way (basically it's their way or the highway).
I'm not perfect, and I am, for the most part, religious and believe in a higher power that guides me etc., but also allows me free will. This works for me and many others (although, it's not the only thing that gives my life meaning). However, I'm open to hearing about other's beliefs and even considering some of them, otherwise I wouldn't be watching this I guess. By the way, these videos are amazing, I'm always recommending them to others.
Am I the only one, who heard their own id, and God's Connection, thru Buddhism and Old Testament??
On earth as it is in heaven...
Don't pluralize the word "regard". It's "In regard to" not "In regards to".
He destroyed what he created
Too currently accurate
7:06 . Giving up on trying to generate your own meaning is the smarter move as meaning is only found in Jesus Christ.
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He was a Nihilist. He never gave it up, Just dump all science {medical} to heal himself. Be a overman and break all the laws, says a madman.
Active nihilism is just a bunch of bull.
#DefendNihilistCommunism
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