@@PerthKettlebells What about Ken Shamrock, Mark Coleman, Wanderlei Silva and a lot of the old school guys, what would they have been without the steroids?
Definitely one of the fastest double-leg shots I've ever seen in MMA. Brock had a fast takedown, but Kerr was on another level. Such a smooth and fluid shot too.
It was a clown show. Weight mismatches, dudes juiced to the gills. All a wrestler had to do was pull someone to the ground and use their weight advantage and experience on the floor. It's honestly hard to watch and take seriously. But, not their fault. That was the sport at the time.
I agree, but i have super good genetics for lifting as a natural, and im about marks size in terms of lean body mass in terms of body fat and size. I put a ton of effort towards lifting weights and diet, probably more than he did since he was a fighter. Im also super strong naturally. If you have top of the line genetics you can get his body without steroids and just lifting. I know from experience because ive never taken steroids ever. I lift very heavy weights, and you're going to have to as a natural if you want that kind of size with low body fat. Steroids will ruin your health as well. Naturally im much bigger than most guys on juice by far. Like you said some guys on juice don't look anywhere near his size. In fact some look like crap from what i have seen. Juice does not make you huge automatically either. This kind of stuff is all genetics. Iv'e seen it all and genetics matters more than anything. Definitely are limits though. You arent going to be 290 pounds 5 foot 8 with 6 percent body fat like some of the top bodybuilders naturally regardless of genetics. I don't believe that is even close to possible at all from what i have seen, not to mention that is very unhealthy at the kind of weight with juice and what not. Just wanting to let you guys know though that a lot is possible with good genetics. Just because a given person can't accomplish something doesn't mean other people with great genetics can't.
today you hear "cheater was grabbing my glove!" "he kneed me while I was down!" "he headbutted me!" "these UFC shorts are ugly!" haha, meanwhile back in the 90's...
Moti "The Hammer" Horenstein, must be a soft foam hammer. This guy is as good and courageous of a fighter as the Diaper Force. Record in MMA 1 Win - 6 Losses. He is a champion amongst the Diaper Force only!
@Atticus Whitfield I said good for him? I said Pat smith was something. I’m not going to lie any his success he had a shitty UFC run now I’m downing him when I want before. And I don’t like doing that. I’m sorry the guy was a 15 time Ufc champion and the goat . Happy? Or are you not happy with winning and going to keep attacking someone who gave you what you want?
@Atticus Whitfield his mma record is 1-6 he loss to bob schrijber twice. Bob never has been a great. I don’t like how champions get called bums but a literal can gets so much respect.
Comparing Kerr's grappling performance on the ground to someone like Shamrock it's easy to see his adrenaline was through the roof. Those steroids made a big difference to combat that.
Kerr had so much potential and when he was training with Bas Rutten it appeared he would be unstoppable but opioid addiction and his strained relationship with a woman was not the kind of girl a fighter should be with when he’s trying to be a champion took him out of the game to early. I always wonder if he would have gotten started with pain killers if his girlfriend wasn’t such an unsupportive shrew. He seems like a super nice person and the type of guy that would try to make things work with a crazy relationship (anyone who’s been through one can attest to how much a tortured relationship or a divorce can ruin your ability to excel at your job). You can go through the motions in a lot of corporate jobs assuming you are not a high level financial manager or a risk taking trader or entrepreneur, but a competitive athlete in a high stakes dangerous sport where there can be only one champion will never go to the guy with incredible personal problems regardless of how dominant he could be with even 90% focus. That really made me sad to see him wash up so quickly when, at the time, their was no fighter like him. When he was in Pride you saw his aggression wane and his killer instinct turned into a fight not to lose mentality. That’s when he started tentatively looking for a takedown each round and then putting his head in his opponents chest hands on the biceps and sit in the guard for every round.
mark could of been a legendary fighter if he'd been able to get his demons under control. hes a great wrestler, and was getting great at striking if he just stuck with it more, but his training with Bas was very sporadic, rarely spending more then a few weeks. Sad story, guy just had a lot of internal battles and outside influences. Beat Kurt Angle in a wrestling match though.
It sucks that a beast like Mark Kerr was thrown in the cage with a guy who had zero knowledge of fighting. All his training And prep and they put him against a literal buffoon. Shame on his opponent for even weighing in.
lol Moti got mauled. So much for his "superior israeli training"...words I personally heard him utter around 1998. Also having watched this originally years ago, I was hilariously reminded that Horenstein's style was simply stated as "survival". XD All fairness though...Kerr was a real live fkn monster back then and that would certainly be the proper mindset to have while in battle with him.
I felt bad for Moti, he was often the first round opponent for whatever fighter the UFC wanted in the finals. This was at the point where people fought multiple fights a show. So Moti got mauled by whatever giant grappler was the champ at the time.( Kerr ,Coleman , Taktarov.
He had an extensive background in karate and was also apparently a hand-to-hand combat instructor for the Israeli military. Like a lot of strikers back in the early days, though, he only specialized in the skills of his base style and didn't have enough grappling training to effectively compete in the cage (You'd need to be a damn good wrestler to fend off a monster like Kerr, either way). I think he did try to learn at least some grappling, though, because he attempted to sprawl when he fought Mark Coleman in his first fight.
@@ThePinkMan got it and yeah you needed serious Wrestling to stop Kerr. There's a video of him I found defeating Kurt Angle (preWWE) at the freestyle trials.
@@Brn934 no skills? Kerr was a world class wrestler and an ADCC submission wrestling champion. i'd call that pretty damn skillful. And if you think guys today aren't juicing then you're a naive fool. Don't let that USADA bullshit fool you.
Listening to Jeff Blatnick say Moti’s background was in karate was hilarious. He was a Krav Maga guy who also knew karate. He ran into a monster unlike anything he’d ever seen before.
If people would dig a little bit more, talking about Moti Horenstein, would probably discover that the "survival" reference is not a tacticool joke but a clear reference to the martial art he originally studied in his country: Survival Ju jitsu or Hisardut that in hebrew means Survival. Altough it has been branded as an official jujitsu style, the founder, legendary Dennis Hanover, developed a style blending Mas Oyama's karate, judo throws and jujitsu, a style that shaped a lot of great athletes and throug warriors that excelled in different competitions. DSJJ is still a great style and a place where you can still train hard.
When Bill was 285 and gassed to the gills he had some pretty incredible physical skills. Depending on who he was matched up against he physically had all the tools to donminate.
This guy only had 2 fights in the UFC
Mark Coleman
Mark Kerr
Ouch 🤕
Yeah not a easy couple of fights.🤪
Mr. Barlow!
@@setharnold3699 face the Master!
#1 worst draws in the UFC
Then for his third fight he went elsewhere and got put up against Oleg Taktarov...
To even get in the ring with Kerr deserves my respect..
Mark said the UFC paid $25,000 a fight and Pride paid $140,000 per fight, and that was worth the trip to Japan...
25k is a lot for a fight back then especially considering the economic state the UFC was in at this period
UFC 🤦🏽♂️holding back from Athlete pay this is how they became Billionaires
@@jdu2580 Actually, Mark was there before Zuffa bought the company in 2001
@@wolfstyle8945 Inflation adjusted? Well 25k was more in 1997, but so was 140k, so your point is ......?
@@pulsarlights2825 my point is 25,000 seems like a lot especially considering the financial struggles SEG ufc faced.
It was around this time that wrestling was starting to get recognized for the great fighting style that it is
And it all started with Dan "The Beast" Severn.
@@darkscorpion-donzaloog yup yup! He’s the one that grandfathered wrestling in the ufc ! 💪🏼
Mark Kerr would have been a wimpy nerd without all the steroids
@@PerthKettlebells What about Ken Shamrock, Mark Coleman, Wanderlei Silva and a lot of the old school guys, what would they have been without the steroids?
@@bushwacka5187 the same
When you hear Mark “the Smashing Machine” Kerr’s opponent’s style is, “survival.”
Prediction... Pain.
Cole Bagodoodoo couldn’t write that shit if you wanted to! Lol.
Fighting style, survival 😂
@@sycadelic666 my dad said it best when we watched this "means he didn't train."
To be fair, he did survive.
The blatant juicy days of MMA.
The speed of that takedown !
Definitely one of the fastest double-leg shots I've ever seen in MMA. Brock had a fast takedown, but Kerr was on another level. Such a smooth and fluid shot too.
Kerr was a brutal monster in his prime
So was Kevin the Monster Randleman RIP
The bro was on the gear. Come on man. Unfair fight.
@@choc0077 Back then, all fighters were on steroids.
Poor Moti. Got the worst first two opponents in ufc history.
especially for the rule set at the time
Coleman and Kerr?? One would think someone had it out for him
It was looked at it like just like that back then as well
Mark the nicest guy in the world Kerr!
Smashing machine 😤
Back in the days when fighters could have needles hanging out of their ass in the ring.
facts
It was a clown show. Weight mismatches, dudes juiced to the gills. All a wrestler had to do was pull someone to the ground and use their weight advantage and experience on the floor. It's honestly hard to watch and take seriously. But, not their fault. That was the sport at the time.
Everybody take steroids.. "Nate Diaz"
mark kerr vs jean claude van damne
That was the reason why UFC signed Moti
7 years later I was about to post the exact same comment!! You beat my to it by 7 years man!
The moment it appeared on the screen that Moti's fighting style was karate, I knew he was done for.
They're wrong.
Moti's fighting style isn't Karate.
It's Krav Maga 😐
I just think he took a few classes in everything
apparently it’s called “Survival” though i’m not sure why
Hahahah no chance!
Moti's fighting style is not for competition. It's made for killing people that's why he was limited to what he could do.
Mccarthy would have been a better fight for Kerr than discount Van Damme
"discount Van Damme" XD XD XD
Kerr was a monster back then. Gentle giant outside, but a killer inside the octagon.
Kerr was a juiced drug addicted Pharma freak destined to flame out!!
Moti not being a bloody mess had to be a moral victory. Too bad those knees and headbutts are banned by today's standards.
LOL at Mark Kerr “225 lbs”
Mojones I heard 275# lol
If he stayed around 225 he would have been even more of beast. Kerr said it best he was roided out of him cranium and had the cardio of a hamster.
UFC needs to bring back knees/kicks to the head of a grounded opponent immediately!
Pride style
Coleman kicked the shit out of me but thats ok, it was my first time against a wrestler but now I know what to do. DAMN IT!
Still using a straw to eat...
I used this for research Thank You for the upload
What I like the most about the early UFC is the music. It sounds triumphant and glorious.
Kerr was the best beast. Never stand and dance , he got right to buisness of smash out guys , headbutts elbows. Straight to ground where he smashed em
Kerr was a monster. My God.
Between Mark Coleman n Mark Keerr, who u have you money on?
Not everyone even on steroids can look like Mark, he just has great genetics.
I agree, but i have super good genetics for lifting as a natural, and im about marks size in terms of lean body mass in terms of body fat and size. I put a ton of effort towards lifting weights and diet, probably more than he did since he was a fighter. Im also super strong naturally. If you have top of the line genetics you can get his body without steroids and just lifting. I know from experience because ive never taken steroids ever. I lift very heavy weights, and you're going to have to as a natural if you want that kind of size with low body fat. Steroids will ruin your health as well. Naturally im much bigger than most guys on juice by far. Like you said some guys on juice don't look anywhere near his size. In fact some look like crap from what i have seen. Juice does not make you huge automatically either. This kind of stuff is all genetics. Iv'e seen it all and genetics matters more than anything. Definitely are limits though. You arent going to be 290 pounds 5 foot 8 with 6 percent body fat like some of the top bodybuilders naturally regardless of genetics. I don't believe that is even close to possible at all from what i have seen, not to mention that is very unhealthy at the kind of weight with juice and what not. Just wanting to let you guys know though that a lot is possible with good genetics. Just because a given person can't accomplish something doesn't mean other people with great genetics can't.
Disagree. You just need enough steroids.
I tested positive during Kerr's walk out but opened my own strip mall karate dojo by match's end
Mark was a killer around this time!!
"Kerr's a fuckin' goof" ~ Don Frye ~
I know I heard that. What a great fight that would have been. Frye would have won I think.
Kerr has some of the best Ground game back then
Moti Horenstein always had the hardest match ups.
Mark's shoulders and traps are freakishly huge. It is so sad to see his quick downfall in the 2000's
Steroids didn’t look anything like that wrestling Kurt angle
today you hear
"cheater was grabbing my glove!"
"he kneed me while I was down!"
"he headbutted me!"
"these UFC shorts are ugly!"
haha, meanwhile back in the 90's...
Mark kerr could’ve been one of the best ever
Damn kerr was roided to the gills !
He looks like a G.I joe action figure 😬😱🤼🦾
Bricks don't hit back but Mark kerr does and he hits hard.
Kerr was a brick shithouse that hit back
GOOD DAYS BACK THEN.. :)
Mark kerr, the perfect name for him as when he punches you, the mark is permanent
Still can't believe Lou Ferrigno fought Jean Van Damme, crazy
A karate guy against Mark Kerr? Haha. Not a chance in hell.
Moti is a brave man
Moti "The Hammer" Horenstein, must be a soft foam hammer. This guy is as good and courageous of a fighter as the Diaper Force.
Record in MMA 1 Win - 6 Losses.
He is a champion amongst the Diaper Force only!
Lol Kerr is a machine
D1 wrestling is such a crucible
Moti was one of those early ufc guys who couldn’t win but the ufc could afford them.
@Atticus Whitfield good for moti bring better than pat smith ain’t much but it’s something.
@Atticus Whitfield I said good for him? I said Pat smith was something. I’m not going to lie any his success he had a shitty UFC run now I’m downing him when I want before. And I don’t like doing that. I’m sorry the guy was a 15 time Ufc champion and the goat . Happy? Or are you not happy with winning and going to keep attacking someone who gave you what you want?
@Atticus Whitfield his mma record is 1-6 he loss to bob schrijber twice. Bob never has been a great. I don’t like how champions get called bums but a literal can gets so much respect.
A d1 wrestler will always, 100% of the time, be able to take someone who doesn’t wrestle or train grappling down. Every time.
Steroids- 1
Karate -0
Discount Vane Damme looks like he doesn't want to be anywhere near this guy
Kerr was so jacked, I can see the juice oozing out
Thank goodness it was stopped fast! Great job John McCarthy !❤️
I think the guy is really a Krav Maga guy but they kept it on the down low in case he was beaten
Mark went down hill after he quit juicing. He was one of my favs when I was training.
Thatd be survival!!
Comparing Kerr's grappling performance on the ground to someone like Shamrock it's easy to see his adrenaline was through the roof. Those steroids made a big difference to combat that.
Kerr had so much potential and when he was training with Bas Rutten it appeared he would be unstoppable but opioid addiction and his strained relationship with a woman was not the kind of girl a fighter should be with when he’s trying to be a champion took him out of the game to early. I always wonder if he would have gotten started with pain killers if his girlfriend wasn’t such an unsupportive shrew. He seems like a super nice person and the type of guy that would try to make things work with a crazy relationship (anyone who’s been through one can attest to how much a tortured relationship or a divorce can ruin your ability to excel at your job). You can go through the motions in a lot of corporate jobs assuming you are not a high level financial manager or a risk taking trader or entrepreneur, but a competitive athlete in a high stakes dangerous sport where there can be only one champion will never go to the guy with incredible personal problems regardless of how dominant he could be with even 90% focus. That really made me sad to see him wash up so quickly when, at the time, their was no fighter like him. When he was in Pride you saw his aggression wane and his killer instinct turned into a fight not to lose mentality. That’s when he started tentatively looking for a takedown each round and then putting his head in his opponents chest hands on the biceps and sit in the guard for every round.
I feel same way , mark was such nice guy. That woman was his biggest problem , drugs a bit but she really messed him up
Kerr was on his way to victory but that was a very early stoppage.
"I've made a horrible mistake"
The best double leg in the world
Kerr's shot was one of the fastest I've seen in MMA. Bock had a fast double leg shot, but Kerr was even faster.
So he got beat up by Mark Coleman and even fights a guy the same size with the same skills. Makes sense.
Remember all the " genetic freaks" back then 😅
Idk why but the karate guy reminded me of Jean Claude van dame 😂 out of double impact!
"Kerrs a goof"
moti had moviestar looks, until he met kerr
Moti really had a tough draw, oh boy, Coleman and next time Kerr, poor guy didn't stand a chance, many similarities to van Damme in appearance
mark could of been a legendary fighter if he'd been able to get his demons under control. hes a great wrestler, and was getting great at striking if he just stuck with it more, but his training with Bas was very sporadic, rarely spending more then a few weeks. Sad story, guy just had a lot of internal battles and outside influences. Beat Kurt Angle in a wrestling match though.
Can somebody name me one,just one heavyweight in curent ufc that has this kind of speed on takedowns?
Kerr was the nicest guy in the world!! Went to school with him and wrestled with him
Kerr looks like Tony Gonzales
Moti Claims to be a "Grand Master".....
All these kerr fanboys are the ones that were chosen last for any sporting event.😮
Sounds like youre the feminine one in your relationships 🤣
It sucks that a beast like Mark Kerr was thrown in the cage with a guy who had zero knowledge of fighting. All his training And prep and they put him against a literal buffoon. Shame on his opponent for even weighing in.
Is that Jean Claude Van Damm lol
Sorry about that Mr. Horenstein. I was hoping for more entertainment in a full-feature film.
lol Moti got mauled. So much for his "superior israeli training"...words I personally heard him utter around 1998. Also having watched this originally years ago, I was hilariously reminded that Horenstein's style was simply stated as "survival". XD All fairness though...Kerr was a real live fkn monster back then and that would certainly be the proper mindset to have while in battle with him.
50 lbs weight difference???
I felt bad for Moti, he was often the first round opponent for whatever fighter the UFC wanted in the finals. This was at the point where people fought multiple fights a show.
So Moti got mauled by whatever giant grappler was the champ at the time.( Kerr ,Coleman , Taktarov.
High rank vs low rank in a tourney sounds about right in sports. Besides, his skill set was small. UFC didn't care if you were actually cross-trained.
Is Morti even actually trained? I only ask because apparently Survival doesn't include defending basic take downs.
he was in the Israeli commandos.
He had an extensive background in karate and was also apparently a hand-to-hand combat instructor for the Israeli military. Like a lot of strikers back in the early days, though, he only specialized in the skills of his base style and didn't have enough grappling training to effectively compete in the cage (You'd need to be a damn good wrestler to fend off a monster like Kerr, either way). I think he did try to learn at least some grappling, though, because he attempted to sprawl when he fought Mark Coleman in his first fight.
@@ThePinkMan got it and yeah you needed serious Wrestling to stop Kerr. There's a video of him I found defeating Kurt Angle (preWWE) at the freestyle trials.
@@ThePinkMan
Yeah he probably was a good striker
But against someone like Kerr
You need to drill nothing but like takedown defense
@@DjTractus If I remember correctly, Kurt Angle beat him too, the score must be 1-1
To bad kerr dident stay long enough to be ufc champ. He was great here
Thomas Smith of Course i already know that, but he should have stayed longer and won the belt that bas rutten did.
@Thomas Smith When UFC was for real men? You mean roided up men with no skills?
@@Brn934 no skills? Kerr was a world class wrestler and an ADCC submission wrestling champion. i'd call that pretty damn skillful. And if you think guys today aren't juicing then you're a naive fool. Don't let that USADA bullshit fool you.
Yeah bro! Mark won two Heavyweight ufc titles!!!!!'
@@Brn934 Kerr was a decorated amateur wrestler. Not as great as Mark Coleman but he was highly skilled.
Van Dam is my hero.
This was before ppl took grapplers seriously in combat.
This was actually when grapplers were dominating. The rules changed because it was considered boring. Which hurt grapplers
That was an obvious win.
Too fast, I'm bloodthirsty
Listening to Jeff Blatnick say Moti’s background was in karate was hilarious. He was a Krav Maga guy who also knew karate.
He ran into a monster unlike anything he’d ever seen before.
Take Kerr off all of them feckin ROIDS and Moti beats him
Kerr needs to work on his traps a little
Poor moti coleman And kerr!!!
Shalom Moti
Fighting a man thats on gear. Clearly an unfair fight.
Juiced
If people would dig a little bit more, talking about Moti Horenstein, would probably discover that the "survival" reference is not a tacticool joke but a clear reference to the martial art he originally studied in his country: Survival Ju jitsu or Hisardut that in hebrew means Survival. Altough it has been branded as an official jujitsu style, the founder, legendary Dennis Hanover, developed a style blending Mas Oyama's karate, judo throws and jujitsu, a style that shaped a lot of great athletes and throug warriors that excelled in different competitions. DSJJ is still a great style and a place where you can still train hard.
Man! Van Damme got smashed!
Discount Van Damme
Feel sorry for Horensteins sister
Kerr is more like 250's
What would have happened to Goldberg if he ever had dared go into mma
When Bill was 285 and gassed to the gills he had some pretty incredible physical skills.
Depending on who he was matched up against he physically had all the tools to donminate.
Mark the meat axe
Van Damme
Damn that suck so much to have Kerr ( ncaa div 1 champ and loaded to the gills on opiates and steroids) on top of you lol
was MARK natural??
La lucha y el ju Jitsu siempre serán artes marciales superiores , el karate no demostró ser muy eficaz
Drugs Vs Moti!
Mark Kerr steroids, take down and smash!!!