As an Australian I naturally watch CEEA but love watching Isaac over at IC weld but now we have On Fire Welding ! Awesome channel ! Keep up the great work .
I was an autobody tech now retired 15yrs, did mostly fleet and production repairs, so I have a different perspective on what's expected. You go way beyond on your repairs almost to the point of custom builds. Keep up the great work and video's.
Totally awesome!! I am so glad that you made this video. I have been thinking about which type of line boring system to get as well as which type of spray weld system. As always you do a fantastic job. It seems you have a lifetime of work with the company you are "affiliated" with. Keep up the great work my friend. Hope to meet you sometime. Your paint job is just as good as the painting I do...actually better because you are doing it.....lol
Rule of thumb for less experienced watchers: Any hole being drilled that's bigger than 1/2" diameter tends to do better with pilot hole first to clear the web on the bigger drill bit. Everyone including me tries to skip that pilot hole, almost everyone ends up regretting that short cut in the end 😁.
When drilling for grease fittings in new work. Did you ever think of drilling only a shallow hole to tap for the zirc then a smaller diameter hole all the way in to reduce the possibility of a tear out because of the normal size hole. Not needed in 99% of jobs. It's just a thought.
You should wait until ask the welding is done to bore it. If you don't you run the risk of things pulling and moving after you finished machining. And thing always move when they are welded.
fantastic rebuild job, wondering how much a new bucket like that costs? Love you Ellis 1600? over in the corner......I have a 1800 that lived outside for 8 years and no harm in the florida weather.....and the paint looks good from my house on the bucket......
I’m not sure what a new one cost but the customer wanted it rebuilt. Honestly it was a POS full of cracks and other issues. I would have bought new if it was mine. I love that saw. Had it since high school.
FYI that type indicator is most accurately called a test indicator. The indicator with the plunger used to measure distance is called a travel indicator. Both types come under the heading of dial indicators. Nice line boring rig, now ,how much??
Idea. Drill a precision hole in a scrap of 3/4" plate. Drill and tap from the side a fine thread hole. Cut the piece in half across the precision hole. Machine a clearance notch where the threaded hole is in the bore for clearance. now with a bolt and a jumbo nut in the threaded hole. So you have a mechanical stop for setting boring bar tools to the same height as you move them between holes . Would it work with a special micrometer head
On a line boring job like this, do you charge by the hour, by the hole? Or bid it… just curious cuz I’m sure those cutters aren’t cheap and also do you get a long lifetime out of the cutters? Thanks in advance I have 0 experience with line boring… cool videos ! I envy your machinery and skill in a positive way!
Typically I charge everything by the hour. Some smaller bores I might do a flat rate. The cutters usually last a while. Until you hit a hard spot and they break. As an example on this job I went through 6 cutters. The last 2 bores used one and the first bore took 2.
So I’m just learning how to do line boring and I was wondering can you generally take bigger cuts at a slower speed? The guy that’s teaching me does things kinda different from guys I’ve seen on CZcams. Like using a punch and a hammer to advance the bit when taking cuts 😂 but it seems like he uses the boring machine at a higher speed but if he takes too much of a cut the machine starts shaking and screaming lol in the video the machine is running really smooth how you do it.
the screaming is called Chatter, to stop it generally you either need a more rigid set up i.e. bigger tooling, or you slow the spindle down and increase feed rate, sometimes a lighter depth of cut can help, but not often. a higher feed rate can also lead to more deflection and less accuracy. As for taking bigger cuts, it has everything to do with power and rigidity. also anyone that uses a hammer to adjust for tight tolerance work needs to be kicked in the teeth, once for every time they smack a precision instrument. and... higher speeds means more heat and wearing out tools faster, (the "bits") leading to less accuracy and more work. Former machinist of like 25 years... its folks like your "teacher" that drove me into the woods.
@@northmanlogging2769 yeah man the way I’ve seen other guys do it is a lot more technical than what this hill billy is showing me. I definitely want to do it the right way which is why I’m asking. I’ve been a heavy equipment mechanic for 9 year and a field mechanic for 3 of those. Just training to take over the welding position for the place I work. I just don’t want to look like a fool when I start line boring out in the field lol
Well I definitely wouldn’t suggest the hammer and punch method. The key to a smooth running setup is run the biggest diameter bar you can, place your bearings as close as possible with enough room to adjust the tool etc…, make sure your cutting tool is sharp and not dull or broken. After all that you can play with depth of cut and feed rates. If you look closely at my bar in the video you can see I have deflection which means my cut is too deep or my feed is too fast. In my situation it didn’t matter because the last two cuts I made were light and accurate.
Picking up lots of views and Subs.....Bravo....really enjoy all your videos, even the Turdappotomas from the other day......did your Apprentice ever get the stink off???? and did he have to ride home in the bed of the truck?
@@OFW so funny, but sad...thanks for the update....hope he did not get any on the seat...it will last a long time.....and if it gets wet, here we go again ....best wishes, Paul
How do you like that setup? Was looking at other brands and was recently turned onto Climax’s line and they seem impressive. I haven’t heard back from them yet if you don’t mind what’s the ruff cost they’re blue box of goodies?
On Fire Welding thanks, there’s 2 Places in the tri-county area near me that do bore repair and in NY everybody runs the old equipment still so i may take the leap.
It was expensive. More than a new truck. If you are just starting out there are other brands that work well that are cheaper like Elsa or Bore Repair Systems.
@@OFW I understand. Line boring is something I’m trying to get into. I have been researching different brands but I’m having a hard time finding a brand that isn’t the bottom of the barrel made in china or one that is a 100k.
@@slicksiderepairllc2822 if all you are planning to fix, is wore out buckets and heavy equipment and then you don’t really need a set up like this you can get away with S power BRS or Elsa
@@OFW What is the price range on a line boring and welding system similar to yours? I am sure it's not cost effective to own one if its only going to see occasional use. I am the kind of person that hates having to outsource anything and I like the having the ability to do just about everything myself.
You do excellent work!
Right up there with IC Weld and Cutting Edge Engineering!
Just recently found your channel.
Thank you. That means a lot to me.
@@OFW check out my small channel. Hopefully more content coming soon.
Id say your channel will really blow up soon
As an Australian I naturally watch CEEA but love watching Isaac over at IC weld but now we have On Fire Welding ! Awesome channel ! Keep up the great work .
Haha, I watch the same channels. I love CEEA! It’s to the point that I just like every video from all three channels, before even watching.
You are doing a great job. You showed the what and the why, plus, the how. Those fleets you have to maintain are giving you some real challenges.
I was an autobody tech now retired 15yrs, did mostly fleet and production repairs, so I have a different perspective on what's expected. You go way beyond on your repairs almost to the point of custom builds. Keep up the great work and video's.
Totally awesome!! I am so glad that you made this video. I have been thinking about which type of line boring system to get as well as which type of spray weld system. As always you do a fantastic job. It seems you have a lifetime of work with the company you are "affiliated" with. Keep up the great work my friend. Hope to meet you sometime. Your paint job is just as good as the painting I do...actually better because you are doing it.....lol
Rule of thumb for less experienced watchers: Any hole being drilled that's bigger than 1/2" diameter tends to do better with pilot hole first to clear the web on the bigger drill bit. Everyone including me tries to skip that pilot hole, almost everyone ends up regretting that short cut in the end 😁.
Dang cool videos, cool learning about the stuff you fix .
Thank you sir have a great day!!!
Outstanding work, really enjoy watching your videos, keep up the great work
Always intrigued by all different jobs you get, keep up great work🤘🤘🤘
Im here before you’re famous. Keep making these videos this is what I like to watch, lots to learn from people like you!
Quality workmanship for sure looks great !
When drilling for grease fittings in new work. Did you ever think of drilling only a shallow hole to tap for the zirc then a smaller diameter hole all the way in to reduce the possibility of a tear out because of the normal size hole. Not needed in 99% of jobs. It's just a thought.
Just Bad A..!!!!! Keep those Videos coming,, I'll be watching!!!!
Watching this on my break at a welding job smh
Very good and interesting vidio iam glad you decided to predrill those holes it will help settle down the keyboard worries
Great video and Nice line bore! I'm still gouging the pin boss out and replacing when worn..
Very nice! Glad I found this channel recently!
You should wait until ask the welding is done to bore it. If you don't you run the risk of things pulling and moving after you finished machining. And thing always move when they are welded.
Pretty sure I saw all that nice hardware you showed at my Walmart in the Arts and Crafts section...hehehe
Very high quality video and explanation of the process ! ............... New Sub here !
13:50 , check out those perfect number 9 shape chips.....great tool selection and feed rate.....bravo....no gnarly stringy chips to fight you....
looks like a tink roll out , nice work
That looks stinkin AWESOME !
Excellent job excellent video ⚒️
fantastic rebuild job, wondering how much a new bucket like that costs? Love you Ellis 1600? over in the corner......I have a 1800 that lived outside for 8 years and no harm in the florida weather.....and the paint looks good from my house on the bucket......
I’m not sure what a new one cost but the customer wanted it rebuilt. Honestly it was a POS full of cracks and other issues. I would have bought new if it was mine. I love that saw. Had it since high school.
Good video, good workmanship and good gear. We run the same Climax gear.
great vid man.. what a nice machine , enjoyed
Тhis dude is legend ! Running business in back yard
Nice job, well done, fit for purpose, they'll only abuse it when on site, no good making a silk purse out of a sows ear for them, lol.
This is when she was new! 💚 lmao! She’s done work since!
FYI that type indicator is most accurately called a test indicator. The indicator with the plunger used to measure distance is called a travel indicator. Both types come under the heading of dial indicators. Nice line boring rig, now ,how much??
He quoted just over 80K a few comments up 🤙🏼
Another Great one Greg 👌
It sure would be cool to see a full on Buick et rebuild.
Lucky you could work from your house we can’t do that in our county in I’ll thanks for your time
Idea. Drill a precision hole in a scrap of 3/4" plate. Drill and tap from the side a fine thread hole. Cut the piece in half across the precision hole. Machine a clearance notch where the threaded hole is in the bore for clearance. now with a bolt and a jumbo nut in the threaded hole. So you have a mechanical stop for setting boring bar tools to the same height as you move them between holes . Would it work with a special micrometer head
I have something like that. I’ll post it in a short right now.
On a line boring job like this, do you charge by the hour, by the hole? Or bid it… just curious cuz I’m sure those cutters aren’t cheap and also do you get a long lifetime out of the cutters? Thanks in advance I have 0 experience with line boring… cool videos ! I envy your machinery and skill in a positive way!
Typically I charge everything by the hour. Some smaller bores I might do a flat rate. The cutters usually last a while. Until you hit a hard spot and they break. As an example on this job I went through 6 cutters. The last 2 bores used one and the first bore took 2.
So I’m just learning how to do line boring and I was wondering can you generally take bigger cuts at a slower speed? The guy that’s teaching me does things kinda different from guys I’ve seen on CZcams. Like using a punch and a hammer to advance the bit when taking cuts 😂 but it seems like he uses the boring machine at a higher speed but if he takes too much of a cut the machine starts shaking and screaming lol in the video the machine is running really smooth how you do it.
the screaming is called Chatter, to stop it generally you either need a more rigid set up i.e. bigger tooling, or you slow the spindle down and increase feed rate, sometimes a lighter depth of cut can help, but not often. a higher feed rate can also lead to more deflection and less accuracy.
As for taking bigger cuts, it has everything to do with power and rigidity.
also anyone that uses a hammer to adjust for tight tolerance work needs to be kicked in the teeth, once for every time they smack a precision instrument.
and... higher speeds means more heat and wearing out tools faster, (the "bits") leading to less accuracy and more work.
Former machinist of like 25 years... its folks like your "teacher" that drove me into the woods.
@@northmanlogging2769 yeah man the way I’ve seen other guys do it is a lot more technical than what this hill billy is showing me. I definitely want to do it the right way which is why I’m asking. I’ve been a heavy equipment mechanic for 9 year and a field mechanic for 3 of those. Just training to take over the welding position for the place I work. I just don’t want to look like a fool when I start line boring out in the field lol
Well I definitely wouldn’t suggest the hammer and punch method. The key to a smooth running setup is run the biggest diameter bar you can, place your bearings as close as possible with enough room to adjust the tool etc…, make sure your cutting tool is sharp and not dull or broken. After all that you can play with depth of cut and feed rates. If you look closely at my bar in the video you can see I have deflection which means my cut is too deep or my feed is too fast. In my situation it didn’t matter because the last two cuts I made were light and accurate.
Nice Job! Kent
Sorry about the bald comment lol. You sir are a very gifted craftsman though.
Do you have the project in video of this lathe? Thank you
Great video! ! 👍
Great video, you should show how to sharpen a cutter.
On carbide inserts I just replace them. But I can do a video on how to sharpen HSS tooling.
Assume job young man 👍
Nice work looks good
i love the longer videos
I don't understand how you're centering the bar with the adjustment screws. If the hole is not round how is there a center?
You have to find center from other places.
Great job
Picking up lots of views and Subs.....Bravo....really enjoy all your videos, even the Turdappotomas from the other day......did your Apprentice ever get the stink off???? and did he have to ride home in the bed of the truck?
I think he took 3 showers and still smelled a little lol. He drove his own car!
@@OFW so funny, but sad...thanks for the update....hope he did not get any on the seat...it will last a long time.....and if it gets wet, here we go again ....best wishes, Paul
Lemonade for lube 😂
Nice Job Sir )
Waiting on new vid to drop!
it is cool!
is your boring machine the BB5000 ? thanks, Paul
Yes
@@OFW thanks i was looking for that info been getting request about line boring here In Texas
How do you like that setup? Was looking at other brands and was recently turned onto Climax’s line and they seem impressive. I haven’t heard back from them yet if you don’t mind what’s the ruff cost they’re blue box of goodies?
I really like the climax setup. Bore welder and the line boring equipment. 80k+
On Fire Welding thanks, there’s 2 Places in the tri-county area near me that do bore repair and in NY everybody runs the old equipment still so i may take the leap.
@@OFW ..are you saying the tool cost 8K? or "80" K???
@@MRSketch09 over 80k for everything.
Nice job
Интересно посмотреть,как устроена коробка подач?
How much was your boring machine? I'd like to get into bore welding
It was expensive. More than a new truck. If you are just starting out there are other brands that work well that are cheaper like Elsa or Bore Repair Systems.
When running all 4 bearings like that can you bore 2 holes at the same time?
Yes you could but a bigger diameter bar and a hydraulic motor would be the better choice for that.
What source of power do you have? (Welder generator type)
Miller big blue 600 air pak
How much are these line bore setups?
The setup I have is about 100k
Why did you pick Climax ? A guys got to fix a lot of worn out buckets to get that back.
@@slicksiderepairllc2822 because it’s more precise than anything else out there and they have more options available for their systems
@@OFW I understand. Line boring is something I’m trying to get into. I have been researching different brands but I’m having a hard time finding a brand that isn’t the bottom of the barrel made in china or one that is a 100k.
@@slicksiderepairllc2822 if all you are planning to fix, is wore out buckets and heavy equipment and then you don’t really need a set up like this you can get away with S power BRS or Elsa
Sorry - Couldn't watch your video for all the rapid camera movement, gave me vertigo. Try more tripod time.
Your boring bar is twisting
Did you sell your BRS setup?
Yes
Why not use hardened pins ?
Because it doesn’t need it. The pin size is already overkill.
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What state are you located in?
Central California
@@OFW I was guessing California by the scenery and building construction techniques.
@@OFW What is the price range on a line boring and welding system similar to yours? I am sure it's not cost effective to own one if its only going to see occasional use. I am the kind of person that hates having to outsource anything and I like the having the ability to do just about everything myself.
What insert holder is that?
I don’t remember. But on my next boring video I can do a breakdown of all my equipment and tools.
@@OFW awesome, thanks. I don’t know that much about machining, I’m a welder. The climax machine I bought came with only HSS.
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