I think to limit proving BK as innocent. It makes it harder for his defense with the home being torn down. It doesn’t make sense - seems like state wants to hide and keep so much from public. I want to hear the 911 call and why cops didn’t instantly jump to the others in the house so survived. Survival is fine but not calling the cops for 6-8 hours after claiming you hear crying, screams, dog barking, intruder voice, seeing him walk past your room so many times, apparently making eye contact. Its weird. To delay calling 911 but having other students in the house ? That’s weird
This dude drove across country nobody is saying wtf is really going on how did he even know there was a house full of girls??? Nobody is talkin about what was going on online.. im not blaming victims here But i will say this getting online and dancing and prancing around in underwear pretending to be all hot with your friend online in front of some guy you never seen before isn’t smart at all. How did he know? It’s literally a house full of college girls and he just ups and drives across country and does a horrible crime. I feel like this monster got there and they didnt wanna party with him and he went nuts.. I gotta funny feeling about this case. They knocked down the house very quickly nobody wants to talk about it
@@renderuntocaesarwhatiscaes2300it was a frame job, they had to destroy the evidence they had to "find someone" to open the campus or the town would have died as well
@@UtoobAreNotZs Actually you might want to google it. I know for a fact sometimes they bus the jurors to the crime scene. I saw a case can't remember off hand which one it was but they all went to the woods. Yup might not happen that often but it depends on how everyone in the case feels about doing it.
@@UtoobAreNotZs They actually do visit crime scenes. The latest case I paid any attention to where that happened was the Murdaugh case. It's rare, but it does happen.
Does anybody realize that when they tore down that house...it made it the very 1st one in the u.s. to ever be torn down where a murder ( murders) occurred before the trial...think about that..out of millions...the very first one......QUESTION....WHY ...???
there are tons of reasons why. use your eyes and look, they've stated why it's been torn down before trial. they already have their photos and videos. houses and murder scenes have been torn down before trials before, this isn't anything new. the house isn't needed for trial. they have their photos and whatever evidence they have. it was also attracting people who were going there to take photos and videos. no one wants that. just tear it down.
I’m with you on this. Gonna be trial of the century situation. Why tear down biggest piece of evidence just bc neighbors didn’t wanna look at it? Pics/videos are not enough to “place yourself there” and reimagine the events that took place - as jury will have to do. Esp considering how perplexing the whole thing is - just makes no sense. SKETCHY
It’s crazy that this building was torn down! They held the bodies of the Vallow children were held for years until the trial, but they couldn’t keep that house until the trial was over.. something is not right
Because the evidence was different. In the case of the Vallow Children they were having a really hard time getting the solid evidence to prove the parents did it. In this case they already have more than enough evidence to bury Kohberger.
My heart goes out to all of the family members. They are quite brave to keep speaking and demanding answers. I still do not believe that no one in that house heard this crime at the time of the attacks. NO WAY
yes but im sure they were in some kind of shock state, because they went back into their rooms and locked it. We don't know how our bodies and brains would react in a similar situation, the girl probably went into survival mode we dont know... theyre victims too, so stop blaming them for someone else's stupid idiotic psychopatic murderous mistake!!!
Erin, I've always felt like ther is something more to this story, what level idk but I too have never been able to grasp that they slept till noon oblivious.
@bmartina7772 Thank you!! Someone else who acknowledges basic human instinct and victim blaming. What they (the internet/society) have done to these girls, especially DM, is atrocious. To treat victims that way is beyond comprehension, can only accept the fact the majority of people are rather unintelligent and only see things in the surface level.
DM did hear noises but your first thought in a house with 6 people isn't that 4 are being murdered. People are unlikely to scream when being attacked because your body is using all its energy and focus to fight back. The noises she heard were very vague and can easily be explained away (such as Kaylee was playing with her dog, Murphy)
Bigger mistake as to how the roommates have never been looked at as suspects when claiming they heard her arguing and the one guy was found dead in a nother room but the didn't hear anything slept for 8 hours😮
@@BridgetSmith-nb2pz FACTS! But keep focusing on the ONE guy. I can never ever see how ONE person can $tabb 4 young strong young people to death, not shoot but $tabb? I don't buy the story. And these other occupants didn't hear anything? never that
A beautiful young lady full of life with her whole life ahead of her. Heartbreaking. Prayers 🙏 for all of her family and friends. May justice be swift and final.
I just can’t understand the judges these days. A California woman only got 100 hours of community service for stabbing her boyfriend 109 times as well as killing her dog.
I think the dog survived but yes these liberal judges are ruining America. If that was the case then why even charge ppl who have Alcohol in their system when they kill another person?
I’m surprised they didn’t just let her go free like they always do with every criminal 🙄🙄it’s like they let them out so the person does another crime so they have something to do for their job
That's nothing bro come to Canada people plan murders aka premeditated automatic 25 with no parole yet they get less and are out in no time. You read stories how violent offenders were sentenced in 2020 to 10 years in jail yet somehow their name pops up in 2023 for another crime...Canada is a joke and it starts with our PM.
The fact that the crime scene was torn down before the case could be completed in court is a HUGE RED FLAG that someone other than Kohberger could be the murderer. Perhaps Kohberger is the killer, but the way the case is being treat in Idaho points to what is suspected: the real killer could be the son of a prominent Idaho business/government figure.
Agree they shouldn’t demolish it before a conviction. If he is not found guilty it’s going to be problematic. That said they may feel strongly enough about the evidence to demolish it
Sending love to the families. I've watched this case from the start and would cry all the time for months, the pain these families have gone through and continue to every day and this case just keeps getting dragged out, so frustrating! 😢
It's not getting dragged out. This is a normal timeline for a case of this magnitude. It takes a few years for murder cases to go to trial. Everyone needs to make sure there Is are dotted and Ts are crossed so that he doesn't win an appeal should he be found guilty. Not to mention that this is a death penalty case!
I’m so shocked they tore the house down before the trial If I was on the jury I’d request to take a tour of the house to get a feel for what happened !!
@@helpis0ntheway it makes no sense because the public doesn't have to know everything about this case and crime in detail.. nor will they ever release everything to us before a conviction. Won't know everything unless the trial is live, we are able to hear and see all the evidence. Is this your first time? DENSE internet detective 😂
Omg she looks like my daughter😢 I can't imagine what momma is going through. My heart goes out to her and her friends. What a tragic loss of such a beautiful soul.
I can’t imagine the terror in the victims last few moments. And to be a parent and have to go through the loss…. So tragic. I feel for the friends and family of these 4 innocent young adults who had such a bright life left to live 😢
@@DP-zm2bdthere is 0 indication of that. Be careful what rumors you spread about people. Kaylee’s own family has expressed appreciation about the roommates
They were getting rid of drugs, friends knew of the murders that morning before the cops were called. Saw a show I think on Hulu and many many friends were on it being interviewed saying they knew that morning
I understand they want to keep Kaylee’s memory alive, but these two seem to love the spotlight. I don’t even know how they can speak so matter of fact on how she was found and trapped etc.
That’s right, they should just keep their mouths shut and wait for the trial; it couldn’t possibly be that they want to see their daughter get justice and are doing whatever they can in the meantime. Nope, they just crave attention.
@@VestaVisionsOr they have been told that the best way to get their desired results(whatever those may be) is to keep the case remembered, keep the victims in the spotlight.
I do think it’s interesting how stoic they are about it, almost no emotion..but then again, people do grieve differently. They do enjoy the spotlight it seems, maybe it makes them feel less alone.
And the roommate saw the killer's "bushy eyebrows" in the dark while she was "in shock" that she didn't call the police after 8 hrs. He didn't harm her being so close to her and she didn't hear any fight or screams for help. I understand if it was one person killed, but 4 people, and 2 of them were so close to her door. Then there is the story that others were coming in and out of the house before calling the police. I don't know but it sounds very suspicious.
VERY sus, and they waited so long to call 911 in the morning, and we didn't hear the 911 dispatch, and maybe there are cell phone videos from the phones of the kids coming in and out.
>Moscow, Idaho >Moscow >Immediate cover up via demolition >Nonsensical stories/accounts that make no sense >DNA on sheath, but not the knife itself Use your brain for once
There’s got be more too this , they tore that house down so , it’s almost like someone higher up is trying to hide something ? There’s a cover up somewhere.. prayers to the family and never stop trying to get justice for your beautiful daughter
This crime was not done by one person. There is no way. I believe there was a 3am ish noise complaint from the screams, and that the MPD either didn’t show up because they assumed they had already been to the house that night, or they assumed the noise was from the band field. You can hear them say on body cam “is that the same house we already went to?” So I think their failure to respond ended up as a quadruple homicide and that’s part of why this case has been so secretive. Why has not even a 911 call be released? 🤔
so, night shift cops went to the house Before 3 am ... did they leave payne there alone? hmm the girls' scream was recorded around 3 am< then 3;01am 911 call> so, prosecutors /defense team have to present this 911 call of 3:01 am to the Trial>>
There's way more going on here than we will probably ever know. In any case of this type, there will be an anomaly or two but there's nothing but anomalys at every turn with this one. Too many unanswered questions and very odd court proceedings can only mean that the case was bungled by investgators leaving problematic loop holes for the prosecution to deal with. Just a hunch.
EXACTLY!!! KEEP FIGHTING GONCALVES FAMILY!!! THEY DID NOT DO A PROPER THOROUGH INVESTIGATION ON THIS CASE!!! They didn’t even look through the outside trash right by the “exit” door, not only that, they didn’t bother to test 3 UNKNOWN MALE DNA PROFILES, TWO being near the VICTIMS!! They improperly sought out BK bc of touch dna (our touch dna is all over the country in places we have never been on things we have never touched) & after that they stopped investigating & made the pieces fit this man to get an arrest to protect the university which has covered up so many crimes it’s disgusting! It’s enrollment & money over justice in Idaho. I’ve followed this case like a full time job since week 1, read all docs, watched the hearings & I do not believe it’s v likely they’ve got this right. In the beginning I did. I always believed the police got it right until I followed this case & have started researching others. It’s so very corrupt & nothing in this case adds up!! I’ve lost a child too & this family is mild compared to what I’d be doing if this was my child in this case!! I’m proud of them for being open & HONEST, for seeking out THEIR OWN TRUTH AND HIRING A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR bc Moscow has an immense record of of botched corrupt investigations!! Please don’t listen to these rude comments. They’re from ppl who don’t think for themselves and swallow whatever mainstream media wants us to believe bc it’s the narrative that LE sells them & is sensationalized to get VIEWS! Again, it’s all about MONEY when it should be about KAYLEE MADDIE ETHAN ANS XANA
Walls are paper thin and the 2 roommates didnt hear all the screams?? Did not call the police but called all the frat homes in the area?? Police are protecting the roommates
There has been no evidence so far that there were any screams. Coroner said there was a puncture to the lungs & liver. You can’t scream from injuries like that, they were dead in less than a minute.
@@JS-oh7uz her story says she froze from fear when she saw him, so that negates the idea that she thought he was just a random dude in a party house. She's admitting that she knew something bad had happened.
Get ready to walk BK & everyone can thank LE for contaminating the crime scene, not allowing the coroner in sooner & not collecting the evidence outside(ie. glove & garbage).
And just how did LE contaminate the crime scene, exactly? What would the coroner have done? Nothing. Coroner is just there to pronounce death and death was obvious. Coroner's office shows up hours later - all the time. The glove wasn't there when LE was, it was dropped days later. BK will not walk, don't be ridiculous. The evidence puts him at the scene, in Maddies' room FFS. The electronic evidence in his own car puts him there, not to mention video cameras. Do you really think police officers are stupid? They aren't. He's caught and he's done.
@JohnnytNatural Nows Johnny yous knows that ain't right..... Owner puts cameras in rental unit with half a dozen randy college kids...... Think about it..... Geesh Johnny this ain't no Joke.....
I pray the Goncalvez can heal from this grief , they where such good parents ,their daughter would not want them sad , I lost my son 2 1/2 years ago and it is very painful, but we have to find acceptance and pray, God will help us and it will always hurt but it will get easier, May God bless them so much 🙏🙏🙏 in Jesus mighty name may they get the justice and peace that they need and may God give them double for their former trouble and may Kaylee's memory always be a blessing in Jesus mighty name amen 🙏🙏🙏
The rubbish bin outside the kitchen sliding door was never looked at, yet it was full of rubbish from the days before and that night. It sat there for several weeks without being emptied and checked by LE….?
That’s what I’m afraid of. These victims are not fbi detectives. I’m sure nothing seems right to them but they need to not be speaking about the case. And the detectives are not going to tell anything. Especially to those who keep going to the media.
Why would "they", whoever they is, tear down that house? Why? The house she died in, and they haven't found her killer, and yet it is torn down. In the pre dawn hours? In other words, during the darkness of night. Amazing. My heart hurts for her family. They deserve to know who took their daughters life and why.❤
A good answer to all those wondering why they tore down the house: "A few reasons: other than the fact that jury visits are extremely rare, the house no longer resembled the way it looked at the time of the murder. They took pictures & made a complete 3D virtual tour and model of the house while all evidence was still present. Then, in order to preserve evidence, they gathered absolutely everything from the beds, flooring, portions of the walls, clothing, and anything else that had any evidentiary value. Lastly, they did a complete forensic vacuum of the house to make sure nothing was missed. With everything out of the house, sound will travel very differently than it would have before, which would only be confusing to a jury. If, somehow, sound travel is important to understand, all of that is simple physics and math. They know the architectural details of the house, so they can easily show how sound would travel from room to room with a diagram. It's the same way we've always studied sound. Both sides stated clearly that they would not ever bring a jury there and had no further need for it, which makes sense. Lastly, the house attracted people from all over the country who had no reason to be there. It's located in an area where pretty much only college kids live. Murder scenes attract a bunch of really weird people who do really sketchy things as well. Not only is that a major distraction for the students, but it's extremely unsafe."
The more they criticize police the more fuel they give the defense. I've been there. My daughter was killed. I made my disgruntled voice heard. Made things worse. In fact it for me blamed for the murder by the defense. Just bite your tongue unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.
My heart absolutely breaks for these families. I understand the judge is taking every precaution to make sure BK's lawyers can't file a mistrial, but, seriously, the parents have rights to know certain things even if they are then gag ordered to not share them. No one seems to be on their side, and THEY are the victims.
It’s hard to imagine that anyone of us parents could also be put in that position and suffer such a deep pain as they have. I pray, and never have to explain that, and my heart goes out to them.
Losing your child would be painful enough, but losing your baby this way ... 😔 😔 I can't begin to imagine how these parents are coping. Prayers for their well-being and strength.
From Indiana , our hearts hurt for you and all the families . We hear and feel your anger and hurt over the terrible loss of your amazing , beautiful children . There will never be an answer as to why this monster did this but just know we are holding you all up and pray he is punished to the full extent of the law .
You two humans now need a life of happiness..joy..optimism..and mental peace.. even if that means hanging onto the ultimate dream of meeting Kaylee again in heaven❤❤
They held it together far better than I could. No family should have to go through this. I’m not sure how but I hope the court sends a message to all future killers, cause really that’s all we have left in this process.
They tore that house down to quickly. I have heard multiple jurors say going to a crime scene, did more to help them see how it happened then any photos or chart. 😊
The complaints here seem contradictory. You want all the evidence but also complain that they are not doing their job when they leave evidence. LE and the district attorney need to be careful not to compromise their case! I am sympathetic to all of the families but more importantly the victims deserve justice. The families sharing evidence with the public doesn’t help the case or help them to get more information. They simply talk too much and the investigators are probably not comfortable telling them much at this point because the history of their behavior.
That dorm was horrible it was a party house That’s how that weirdo got in they left the doors open for those college students to come in. That’s how he got in there
They were all such lovely young people with so much potential. The world is robbed of the good things 4 people could've brought to it and their lived ones of a lifetime of memories. My prayers are ongoing for the families. May they get justice soon.
I pray for all parents losing their child from tragedy or an accident! It’s hell on earth forever! This tragedy is so evil , I’m near tears after reading anything about this nightmare! Be strong parents , one day@ a time ! Ppl do pray for you always , please remember that
I still say the one roommate was involved 🤷♀️ she waited for hours before calling police? Called other people first, then they said ya you should call the police? Then the police said you could smell the blood as you walked in. Just doesn’t add up.
There is no indication that the roommate knew people were dead before calling friends over. We have hardly any information about the series of events that took place that morning.
@@Manatee4Scale they said they thought their roommate was passed out supposedly. And then called friends and then called police. The police said it was a blood bath in there. No way you wouldn’t know your roommate was badly hurt. They waited to call police. Not right away called friends over when it was a blood bath in there. Why? Something doesn’t add up.
@@MaryLG541 You’re assuming they SAW the bodies and then decided to call friends over instead of police. There is no indication that that’s what happened! For example, maybe they couldn’t reach Xana and Ethan and couldn’t get in their door so they called Ethan’s brother (who lived VERY close by).
@@MaryLG541 it sounds like you’ve heard rumors and speculation. All we know is that friends were summoned and were there when 911 was called. It has not been said (by anyone official) that they saw the bodies and then called friends over. There is a lot of misinformation in this case, careful!
Just horrific So very heartbreaking to her parents, her family and her loved ones. I'm so sorry for your loss unimaginable heartbreak rest in peace beautiful girl
You would think this crime would be put on the express path for quick justice to be rendered. Seems like everyone is taking their time. Disrespect for the families. (IMO)
The school and neighbors wanted it torn down because it was a "grim reminder" of what happened there. Big mistake I think. The trial and justice are much more important than how anyone feels about that house. They could have torn it down after the trial.
They can’t stand each other maybe that’s why they prefer being on camera so much. They’re so obsessed with interviews they’re in a contest against each other. The cracks are showing.
Time for the parents to realize something is not right about this case! I wonder if Bk is more than likely innocent and and things were planted. There could be evidence that was left in that home that proves it wasn’t Bk and that’s probably why the house was torn down. Just my opinion. Remember the other finger prints found in the home that no one learned about? ….
I can't believe a judge wouldn't put a stay on that demolition. That, in itself, is criminal!
I agree
@@rasheenamuhammad5103 I have 3 words'' that stupid college''!!!!!!!!!
I think to limit proving BK as innocent. It makes it harder for his defense with the home being torn down. It doesn’t make sense - seems like state wants to hide and keep so much from public. I want to hear the 911 call and why cops didn’t instantly jump to the others in the house so survived. Survival is fine but not calling the cops for 6-8 hours after claiming you hear crying, screams, dog barking, intruder voice, seeing him walk past your room so many times, apparently making eye contact. Its weird. To delay calling 911 but having other students in the house ? That’s weird
I don't think a judge can stop property owners from doing what they want long as actions are legal. 🤷
@76482, if its a crime scene then a judge can
Destroying the crime scene before the trial is a very odd choice.
Let it go already . Everyone went through it. Contaminated crime scene needed to go .
Both sides agreed
OAKLAND STOLE SOMETHING I HAD GOTTEN FREE> SO I ORDERED ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THING FOR STILL FREE BITCH
>Moscow, Idaho
>Moscow
>Immediate cover up via demolition
Checks out
Female killed, American female anyway
As soon as the biohazard waste clean-up was done, the crime scene was no longer.
I don't get why they rushed to tear the house down. I don't think it should have been torn down.
Maybe cuz nobody wants to stay in that house and it will be sad to see knowing all them were killed in that lil town
To cover up what actually happened. It was a targeted attack. There was most likely a lot of evidence to prove BK didn't do it.
it was a frame job, they had to destroy the evidence
This dude drove across country nobody is saying wtf is really going on how did he even know there was a house full of girls??? Nobody is talkin about what was going on online.. im not blaming victims here
But i will say this getting online and dancing and prancing around in underwear pretending to be all hot with your friend online in front of some guy you never seen before isn’t smart at all. How did he know? It’s literally a house full of college girls and he just ups and drives across country and does a horrible crime. I feel like this monster got there and they didnt wanna party with him and he went nuts.. I gotta funny feeling about this case. They knocked down the house very quickly nobody wants to talk about it
@@renderuntocaesarwhatiscaes2300it was a frame job, they had to destroy the evidence
they had to "find someone" to open the campus or the town would have died as well
big mistake tearing the house down
Absolutely.
Well Steve had the bodies cremated rather fast..those bodies were a fountain of evidence...what does that tell you...
I’m no professional but to me-100 pieces of evidence is minuscule from a crime scene that large.
Unfortunately I think the university that owns it insisted on tearing it down.
Cover up
I can’t imagine the pain the parents are going through. Rip
And knowing that her roommate just stood there watching while their daughter was being brutally stabbed to death.
@@dontbotherwithreplying1543totally agree
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@@dontbotherwithreplying1543what are you talking about no one stood their watching ..
Ignorant much
The state is lying. Everyone there knows the 2 criminal informants and Dylan did this. " allegedly". Lol
Why would a crime scene be demolished before the accused when on trial. It doesn't make any sense!?
They’re covering up, too much jokes have happened in this investigation
You people aren't the brightest lol you don't bring the jurors to the crime scene
@@UtoobAreNotZs Actually you might want to google it. I know for a fact sometimes they bus the jurors to the crime scene. I saw a case can't remember off hand which one it was but they all went to the woods. Yup might not happen that often but it depends on how everyone in the case feels about doing it.
@@whatmyohmy yeah not when it's a private domicile. They get cleaned up rather quickly too
@@UtoobAreNotZs They actually do visit crime scenes. The latest case I paid any attention to where that happened was the Murdaugh case. It's rare, but it does happen.
She fought back and the roommates didnt hear her being stabbed to death? And the roommates didnt call police for 8 hours? Right .....
They are lying, the police are lying, the whole thing is a mess..where are the marks on Brian’s body?
@@esthershuruggs430I almost agree with you but wasn't he arrested weeks later? Any bruises or scratches would have been gone by then.
I don't know 😔
@@esthershuruggs430his hands had damage.
They know it all too and can hear the walls are thing with wood floors too
they were drunk and high most likely
Does anybody realize that when they tore down that house...it made it the very 1st one in the u.s. to ever be torn down where a murder ( murders) occurred before the trial...think about that..out of millions...the very first one......QUESTION....WHY ...???
There’s already 3 unidentified male dna profiles they didn’t test. They probably don’t want more!
Masonic rituals🎉
there are tons of reasons why. use your eyes and look, they've stated why it's been torn down before trial. they already have their photos and videos.
houses and murder scenes have been torn down before trials before, this isn't anything new. the house isn't needed for trial. they have their photos and whatever evidence they have.
it was also attracting people who were going there to take photos and videos. no one wants that. just tear it down.
I’m with you on this. Gonna be trial of the century situation. Why tear down biggest piece of evidence just bc neighbors didn’t wanna look at it? Pics/videos are not enough to “place yourself there” and reimagine the events that took place - as jury will have to do. Esp considering how perplexing the whole thing is - just makes no sense. SKETCHY
@@ilovecrackersalot It wouldn't hurt to keep it. Sometimes jurors visit crime scenes during criminal cases to help prosecution side.
It’s crazy that this building was torn down! They held the bodies of the Vallow children were held for years until the trial, but they couldn’t keep that house until the trial was over.. something is not right
Because the evidence was different. In the case of the Vallow Children they were having a really hard time getting the solid evidence to prove the parents did it. In this case they already have more than enough evidence to bury Kohberger.
College is losing money… corrupt on every level
>Moscow, Idaho
>Moscow
>Immediate cover up via demolition
Checks out
Masonic rituals
My heart goes out to all of the family members. They are quite brave to keep speaking and demanding answers.
I still do not believe that no one in that house heard this crime at the time of the attacks. NO WAY
The roommates did hear the murders.
yes but im sure they were in some kind of shock state, because they went back into their rooms and locked it. We don't know how our bodies and brains would react in a similar situation, the girl probably went into survival mode we dont know... theyre victims too, so stop blaming them for someone else's stupid idiotic psychopatic murderous mistake!!!
Erin, I've always felt like ther is something more to this story, what level idk but I too have never been able to grasp that they slept till noon oblivious.
@bmartina7772 Thank you!! Someone else who acknowledges basic human instinct and victim blaming. What they (the internet/society) have done to these girls, especially DM, is atrocious. To treat victims that way is beyond comprehension, can only accept the fact the majority of people are rather unintelligent and only see things in the surface level.
DM did hear noises but your first thought in a house with 6 people isn't that 4 are being murdered. People are unlikely to scream when being attacked because your body is using all its energy and focus to fight back. The noises she heard were very vague and can easily be explained away (such as Kaylee was playing with her dog, Murphy)
They should NOT have torn down the house!
Cover up
@@chicfinilets see some facts instead of saying nonsense
Bigger mistake as to how the roommates have never been looked at as suspects when claiming they heard her arguing and the one guy was found dead in a nother room but the didn't hear anything slept for 8 hours😮
@@scoobydoo8498 You are gullible and naive.
@@BridgetSmith-nb2pz FACTS! But keep focusing on the ONE guy. I can never ever see how ONE person can $tabb 4 young strong young people to death, not shoot but $tabb? I don't buy the story. And these other occupants didn't hear anything? never that
There can’t be ANY benefit for the prosecution by demolishing the house.
I am so sad for your loss of a lovely daughter with so much light and spirit. It's hard to imagine, my heart goes out to you.
She was too young 😢 too young 😢
A beautiful young lady full of life with her whole life ahead of her. Heartbreaking. Prayers 🙏 for all of her family and friends. May justice be swift and final.
to bad her mom was jealous and had her ex boyfriend go after her
@@samgriess438 OMG. What is wrong with you? 👿
@@lildee2626 it wouldnt be the first time this has happened, and it wont be the last
@@samgriess438it wasn't her ex! He was ruled out almost from the start!!
@@Littleone124 rofl, i bet you think OJ was innocent too
I just can’t understand the judges these days. A California woman only got 100 hours of community service for stabbing her boyfriend 109 times as well as killing her dog.
You and me both
I think the dog survived but yes these liberal judges are ruining America. If that was the case then why even charge ppl who have Alcohol in their system when they kill another person?
How do you hate someone so much to stab them that many time anyways, that’s so crazy 💀
I’m surprised they didn’t just let her go free like they always do with every criminal 🙄🙄it’s like they let them out so the person does another crime so they have something to do for their job
That's nothing bro come to Canada people plan murders aka premeditated automatic 25 with no parole yet they get less and are out in no time. You read stories how violent offenders were sentenced in 2020 to 10 years in jail yet somehow their name pops up in 2023 for another crime...Canada is a joke and it starts with our PM.
They literally destroyed all the evidence! Something doesn’t smell right!
How traumatizing for both the victim and parents! RIP Baby girl💖🌟
The evidence has been collected. There will be nothing left but horrific memories. The neighbours deserve to not have to look at that house all day.
The fact that the crime scene was torn down before the case could be completed in court is a HUGE RED FLAG that someone other than Kohberger could be the murderer. Perhaps Kohberger is the killer, but the way the case is being treat in Idaho points to what is suspected: the real killer could be the son of a prominent Idaho business/government figure.
Agree
Wrong on so many levels. The house is not needed to convict him. No, try not to be a fool. It's BK, there is no conspiracy to cover for anyone.
Glad you're not on the jury @peachesdixon7567
Agree they shouldn’t demolish it before a conviction. If he is not found guilty it’s going to be problematic. That said they may feel strongly enough about the evidence to demolish it
2:12 @@peachesdixon7567
My condolences to this family.. but I can't believe they would be allowed to destroy a crime scene, when the case wasn't concluded.!!
Do you really think that all crime scenes are preserved until after trial and appeals? Get real. It doesn't happen.
Wait for a sibling to go famous
My heart breaks for for the families! I pray we get to the whole truth 🙏❤️❤️❤️
Their children are dead. They were murdered. There is no motive that justifies it. That is the truth spelled out.
We just never know who might be driving around our block or why. Yikes
Sending love to the families. I've watched this case from the start and would cry all the time for months, the pain these families have gone through and continue to every day and this case just keeps getting dragged out, so frustrating! 😢
Yea it made me scared and sad for so many months. 😢
they only want their camera time. disgusting
It's not getting dragged out. This is a normal timeline for a case of this magnitude. It takes a few years for murder cases to go to trial. Everyone needs to make sure there Is are dotted and Ts are crossed so that he doesn't win an appeal should he be found guilty. Not to mention that this is a death penalty case!
I’m so shocked they tore the house down before the trial
If I was on the jury I’d request to take a tour of the house to get a feel for what happened !!
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>Moscow, Idaho
>Moscow
>Immediate cover up via demolition
Checks out
The 2 other roommates know more.
100%!! Their stories make no sense. The fraternity & school do too.
@@helpis0ntheway it makes no sense because the public doesn't have to know everything about this case and crime in detail.. nor will they ever release everything to us before a conviction. Won't know everything unless the trial is live, we are able to hear and see all the evidence.
Is this your first time? DENSE internet detective 😂
Rest in peace Kaylee…. You & your friends didn’t deserve this at all. She had her entire beautiful life ahead of her. They all did.💔🥀🕊️Damn….😔🥺😭
Omg she looks like my daughter😢 I can't imagine what momma is going through. My heart goes out to her and her friends. What a tragic loss of such a beautiful soul.
What about the other 3 do there life's not matter you make me sick think Kaylee only victim hope your daughter gets the same treatment as kaylee
I can’t imagine the terror in the victims last few moments. And to be a parent and have to go through the loss…. So tragic. I feel for the friends and family of these 4 innocent young adults who had such a bright life left to live 😢
Why do you feel for the friends??? They were too busy cleaning up the drugs and making a cover up story before they called 911 like 8 hours later.
@@DP-zm2bd they had more than just the two friends that survived. They had many friends.
@@DP-zm2bdthere is 0 indication of that. Be careful what rumors you spread about people. Kaylee’s own family has expressed appreciation about the roommates
Why didn't the surviving roommates call 🤙 911
They were getting rid of drugs, friends knew of the murders that morning before the cops were called. Saw a show I think on Hulu and many many friends were on it being interviewed saying they knew that morning
They didn't know the number... 🤷♀️
they were busy on tiktok.
why to call cops if cops are killers
Somewhat involved in the crime and they gave the killer/killers enough time to flee the scene before calling the cops maybe.
I understand they want to keep Kaylee’s memory alive, but these two seem to love the spotlight. I don’t even know how they can speak so matter of fact on how she was found and trapped etc.
That’s right, they should just keep their mouths shut and wait for the trial; it couldn’t possibly be that they want to see their daughter get justice and are doing whatever they can in the meantime. Nope, they just crave attention.
Yeah somethings up with them.
It's like acting for them. Makes me wonder if this is a psyop.
@@VestaVisionsOr they have been told that the best way to get their desired results(whatever those may be) is to keep the case remembered, keep the victims in the spotlight.
I do think it’s interesting how stoic they are about it, almost no emotion..but then again, people do grieve differently. They do enjoy the spotlight it seems, maybe it makes them feel less alone.
And the roommate saw the killer's "bushy eyebrows" in the dark while she was "in shock" that she didn't call the police after 8 hrs. He didn't harm her being so close to her and she didn't hear any fight or screams for help. I understand if it was one person killed, but 4 people, and 2 of them were so close to her door. Then there is the story that others were coming in and out of the house before calling the police. I don't know but it sounds very suspicious.
VERY sus, and they waited so long to call 911 in the morning, and we didn't hear the 911 dispatch, and maybe there are cell phone videos from the phones of the kids coming in and out.
Man if that house could talk! Most horrific crime I can remember. I hope this Bryan see the victims every night he closes his eyes.
Bryan didn’t do it bro!
>Moscow, Idaho
>Moscow
>Immediate cover up via demolition
>Nonsensical stories/accounts that make no sense
>DNA on sheath, but not the knife itself
Use your brain for once
There’s got be more too this , they tore that house down so , it’s almost like someone higher up is trying to hide something ?
There’s a cover up somewhere.. prayers to the family and never stop trying to get justice for your beautiful daughter
It's been years now. They don't need the house
This crime was not done by one person. There is no way. I believe there was a 3am ish noise complaint from the screams, and that the MPD either didn’t show up because they assumed they had already been to the house that night, or they assumed the noise was from the band field. You can hear them say on body cam “is that the same house we already went to?” So I think their failure to respond ended up as a quadruple homicide and that’s part of why this case has been so secretive. Why has not even a 911 call be released? 🤔
there's a gag order
so, cops went to th house before 3 am... aha
so, night shift cops went to the house Before 3 am ... did they leave payne there alone? hmm the girls' scream was recorded around 3 am< then 3;01am 911 call> so, prosecutors /defense team have to present this 911 call of 3:01 am to the Trial>>
Would explain why the timeline was originally between 3 and 4..if they received a call at 3.
How is there no way lol .. please explain in your infinite wisdom
There's way more going on here than we will probably ever know. In any case of this type, there will be an anomaly or two but there's nothing but anomalys at every turn with this one. Too many unanswered questions and very odd court proceedings can only mean that the case was bungled by investgators leaving problematic loop holes for the prosecution to deal with. Just a hunch.
EXACTLY!!! KEEP FIGHTING GONCALVES FAMILY!!! THEY DID NOT DO A PROPER THOROUGH INVESTIGATION ON THIS CASE!!! They didn’t even look through the outside trash right by the “exit” door, not only that, they didn’t bother to test 3 UNKNOWN MALE DNA PROFILES, TWO being near the VICTIMS!! They improperly sought out BK bc of touch dna (our touch dna is all over the country in places we have never been on things we have never touched) & after that they stopped investigating & made the pieces fit this man to get an arrest to protect the university which has covered up so many crimes it’s disgusting! It’s enrollment & money over justice in Idaho. I’ve followed this case like a full time job since week 1, read all docs, watched the hearings & I do not believe it’s v likely they’ve got this right. In the beginning I did. I always believed the police got it right until I followed this case & have started researching others. It’s so very corrupt & nothing in this case adds up!! I’ve lost a child too & this family is mild compared to what I’d be doing if this was my child in this case!! I’m proud of them for being open & HONEST, for seeking out THEIR OWN TRUTH AND HIRING A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR bc Moscow has an immense record of of botched corrupt investigations!! Please don’t listen to these rude comments. They’re from ppl who don’t think for themselves and swallow whatever mainstream media wants us to believe bc it’s the narrative that LE sells them & is sensationalized to get VIEWS! Again, it’s all about MONEY when it should be about KAYLEE MADDIE ETHAN ANS XANA
Walls are paper thin and the 2 roommates didnt hear all the screams?? Did not call the police but called all the frat homes in the area?? Police are protecting the roommates
what screams?
If throat is cut, no screams. Plus i think she just thought it was some dude leaving. It was a busy party house
There has been no evidence so far that there were any screams. Coroner said there was a puncture to the lungs & liver. You can’t scream from injuries like that, they were dead in less than a minute.
@@JS-oh7uz her story says she froze from fear when she saw him, so that negates the idea that she thought he was just a random dude in a party house. She's admitting that she knew something bad had happened.
@@zzz7zzz9 oh damn, that is terrifying then. I didn't hear that was what she reported. Guess she had good instincts??
I think the people, should keep the house as evidence. It’s been done. 3 D photo’s not the same.
My heart breaks for the parents. 💔
Is it standard practice tear a house down after someone dies in it? Seems strange.
The school is selfish and money hungry. They want no memory of it to taint their school from making money.
Not strange to do
Ummm,,, yes it is very strange to rip down the murder scene before the trial has concluded and the suspect is charged and in prison for being guilty.
Get ready to walk BK & everyone can thank LE for contaminating the crime scene, not allowing the coroner in sooner & not collecting the evidence outside(ie. glove & garbage).
And just how did LE contaminate the crime scene, exactly? What would the coroner have done? Nothing. Coroner is just there to pronounce death and death was obvious. Coroner's office shows up hours later - all the time. The glove wasn't there when LE was, it was dropped days later. BK will not walk, don't be ridiculous. The evidence puts him at the scene, in Maddies' room FFS. The electronic evidence in his own car puts him there, not to mention video cameras. Do you really think police officers are stupid? They aren't. He's caught and he's done.
No it doesn't.@@peachesdixon7567
@@peachesdixon7567the investigation was amateurish.
I believe the roommate is part of this whole crime-
2 surviving House Mates
WHY WOUKD 2 HOUSEMATES WANT THEIR GOOOD FRIENDS DEAD???
I can’t believe they torn the damn place down. My heart goes out to the family!! Rest in peace to all 4 ❤️
They did not tear it down yet
@@Jenni31712yes they did, it was all over the News and CZcams the day they destroyed it.
@JohnnytNaturalwhich sorority, and how were they involved?
@JohnnytNatural Nows Johnny yous knows that ain't right..... Owner puts cameras in rental unit with half a dozen randy college kids...... Think about it..... Geesh Johnny this ain't no Joke.....
@JohnnytNatural That's right..... My badd.....
I pray the Goncalvez can heal from this grief , they where such good parents ,their daughter would not want them sad , I lost my son 2 1/2 years ago and it is very painful, but we have to find acceptance and pray, God will help us and it will always hurt but it will get easier, May God bless them so much 🙏🙏🙏 in Jesus mighty name may they get the justice and peace that they need and may God give them double for their former trouble and may Kaylee's memory always be a blessing in Jesus mighty name amen 🙏🙏🙏
Amen, in Jesus name! I am sorry for your son’s situation! God bless you!
@@SweetTee13 Thankyou God bless have a beautiful day and year ❤️🙏💐
RIP Kaylie. Shame for the cops not to release everything to the parents. They let the house be torn down.
The rubbish bin outside the kitchen sliding door was never looked at, yet it was full of rubbish from the days before and that night. It sat there for several weeks without being emptied and checked by LE….?
I’m intrigued as to why they demolished the house after such a relatively short length of time?
They need to keep quiet and let the court system take care of this. Heaven forbid they mess this up.
That’s what I’m afraid of. These victims are not fbi detectives. I’m sure nothing seems right to them but they need to not be speaking about the case. And the detectives are not going to tell anything. Especially to those who keep going to the media.
All they’ve been doing is giving defense ammo to use against the case.
There is no defense. The evidence puts him there.
@peachesdixon7567 You mean, touch DNA? They don’t have anything else.
Why would "they", whoever they is, tear down that house? Why? The house she died in, and they haven't found her killer, and yet it is torn down. In the pre dawn hours? In other words, during the darkness of night. Amazing. My heart hurts for her family. They deserve to know who took their daughters life and why.❤
her killer has been in jails for months. Weird people like to argue it's not him
He was caught like 6 weeks later and is waiting for his trial.
@@ER1CxFNo he has been charged for the crime. You cannot call him the killer until the day a court of law finds him guilty of the crime.
Yes, it's highly unusual because the house is still evidence and the jury usually walks through the house.
like I said.. only weirdos disagree. nice profile picture you skin crawling creep. @@nickmandleberg
Defense wants to delay the trial for years.
The prosecution has or is concealing the real evidence
A good answer to all those wondering why they tore down the house: "A few reasons: other than the fact that jury visits are extremely rare, the house no longer resembled the way it looked at the time of the murder. They took pictures & made a complete 3D virtual tour and model of the house while all evidence was still present. Then, in order to preserve evidence, they gathered absolutely everything from the beds, flooring, portions of the walls, clothing, and anything else that had any evidentiary value. Lastly, they did a complete forensic vacuum of the house to make sure nothing was missed. With everything out of the house, sound will travel very differently than it would have before, which would only be confusing to a jury. If, somehow, sound travel is important to understand, all of that is simple physics and math. They know the architectural details of the house, so they can easily show how sound would travel from room to room with a diagram. It's the same way we've always studied sound. Both sides stated clearly that they would not ever bring a jury there and had no further need for it, which makes sense. Lastly, the house attracted people from all over the country who had no reason to be there. It's located in an area where pretty much only college kids live. Murder scenes attract a bunch of really weird people who do really sketchy things as well. Not only is that a major distraction for the students, but it's extremely unsafe."
Agree. Good explanation
0:18 a fathers love 😢
The more they criticize police the more fuel they give the defense. I've been there. My daughter was killed. I made my disgruntled voice heard. Made things worse. In fact it for me blamed for the murder by the defense. Just bite your tongue unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.
I don't understand why this hasn't gone to trial...
There is a trial date set this year.
My heart absolutely breaks for these families. I understand the judge is taking every precaution to make sure BK's lawyers can't file a mistrial, but, seriously, the parents have rights to know certain things even if they are then gag ordered to not share them. No one seems to be on their side, and THEY are the victims.
No, they have no right to know anything of the investigation. Sorry, that is investigation 101.
they are attention seekers. disgusting
Where are those rights enumerated? Is there a charter, a declaration, an accord -- somewhere?
its all about their camera time. their daughter would be so ashamed of them
@@MiaKaiser9Or she would be so proud of them for advocating for her. Sometimes keeping a case in the spotlight can help.
So we now know at least Kaylee and Xana were awake. So awful.
It’s hard to imagine that anyone of us parents could also be put in that position and suffer such a deep pain as they have. I pray, and never have to explain that, and my heart goes out to them.
This is one odd and frustrating case. I hope we get the full story and the full truth someday soon.
So she was from PA ? Brian is from PA, maybe she was the target..
RIP Kailey
Why the rush to tear it down??😮
Holy crap. the audio on this is embarrassing. Not sure why a news station would produce something so poorly.
Losing your child would be painful enough, but losing your baby this way ... 😔 😔 I can't begin to imagine how these parents are coping. Prayers for their well-being and strength.
Why did they tear these houses down I don’t get it
To cover up the real killer and to cover up the real story on what happened there.
I’d vote for the death penalty in the case
Praying for these poor families! NO parent should ever have to endure what they’ve had to! We mourn with you!!🙏💔
Why in the hell would they tear down the most important evidence? If the jury could walk through that place, it could have major affects decision.
Please don’t say or do anything that will let this monster walk free 😢
From Indiana , our hearts hurt for you and all the families . We hear and feel your anger and hurt over the terrible loss of your amazing , beautiful children . There will never be an answer as to why this monster did this but just know we are holding you all up and pray he is punished to the full extent of the law .
There is no need for this info, this is for the family to know not the public, let's keep it respectful for Kaylee.
Just me or why os there no audio in many spots?
You two humans now need a life of happiness..joy..optimism..and mental peace.. even if that means hanging onto the ultimate dream of meeting Kaylee again in heaven❤❤
Where are they getting their info?
Good Question. Maybe JF?
They held it together far better than I could. No family should have to go through this.
I’m not sure how but I hope the court sends a message to all future killers, cause really that’s all we have left in this process.
They tore that house down to quickly. I have heard multiple jurors say going to a crime scene, did more to help them see how it happened then any photos or chart. 😊
The complaints here seem contradictory. You want all the evidence but also complain that they are not doing their job when they leave evidence. LE and the district attorney need to be careful not to compromise their case! I am sympathetic to all of the families but more importantly the victims deserve justice. The families sharing evidence with the public doesn’t help the case or help them to get more information. They simply talk too much and the investigators are probably not comfortable telling them much at this point because the history of their behavior.
That dorm was horrible it was a party house That’s how that weirdo got in they left the doors open for those college students to come in. That’s how he got in there
They were all such lovely young people with so much potential. The world is robbed of the good things 4 people could've brought to it and their lived ones of a lifetime of memories. My prayers are ongoing for the families. May they get justice soon.
I pray for all parents losing their child from tragedy or an accident! It’s hell on earth forever! This tragedy is so evil , I’m near tears after reading anything about this nightmare! Be strong parents , one day@ a time ! Ppl do pray for you always , please remember that
Beautiful parents I can imagine how beautiful their daughter was
I still say the one roommate was involved 🤷♀️ she waited for hours before calling police? Called other people first, then they said ya you should call the police? Then the police said you could smell the blood as you walked in. Just doesn’t add up.
There is no indication that the roommate knew people were dead before calling friends over. We have hardly any information about the series of events that took place that morning.
@@Manatee4Scale they said they thought their roommate was passed out supposedly. And then called friends and then called police. The police said it was a blood bath in there. No way you wouldn’t know your roommate was badly hurt. They waited to call police. Not right away called friends over when it was a blood bath in there. Why? Something doesn’t add up.
@@MaryLG541 You’re assuming they SAW the bodies and then decided to call friends over instead of police. There is no indication that that’s what happened! For example, maybe they couldn’t reach Xana and Ethan and couldn’t get in their door so they called Ethan’s brother (who lived VERY close by).
@@Manatee4Scale I am not assuming. Look it up. All the articles say that. I would share the parts of the articles here but don’t think you can.
@@MaryLG541 it sounds like you’ve heard rumors and speculation. All we know is that friends were summoned and were there when 911 was called. It has not been said (by anyone official) that they saw the bodies and then called friends over. There is a lot of misinformation in this case, careful!
Just horrific
So very heartbreaking to her parents, her family and her loved ones. I'm so sorry for your loss unimaginable heartbreak rest in peace beautiful girl
There are no words!! Bless you and your family all of your days!
This is going to be a history defining case, both legally and locally. I've followed since Day 1 n will continue to. God bless these poor parents! 😢
That’s so sad 😢
If the University owns that house , thats their right to tear it down , no judge or court order can stop that
our hearts go out to their family, very very sad.
You would think this crime would be put on the express path for quick justice to be rendered.
Seems like everyone is taking their time. Disrespect for the families. (IMO)
why was the house torn down?
The school and neighbors wanted it torn down because it was a "grim reminder" of what happened there. Big mistake I think. The trial and justice are much more important than how anyone feels about that house. They could have torn it down after the trial.
Why were the bodies cremated.
@@dodgingbullets3503those were the parent’s decisions
Ethan wasnt, they are Jewish.
Corruption!
Why tear down the home?
The property should have been left intact until the conclusion of the case.
She was beautiful
rest in peace
Love how when the dad starts to talk the mom just cuts him off.....
I noticed that as well .
They can’t stand each other maybe that’s why they prefer being on camera so much. They’re so obsessed with interviews they’re in a contest against each other. The cracks are showing.
@@angelwings7930they really looked like they were trying too hard to look like a happy couple.
Kristy looks different, IMO.
80% of relationships end after the loss of a child. They just gotta get through what they gotta go through.
Why pick at them when they’re still suffering the loss of their daughter
Keep standing strong you guys...Kaylee was one blessed girl with parents like you.
Justice for Kaylee!!!! Justice for Kaylee!!!! Justice for KAYLEE!!!!!!!
So the coroner lied when she said they appeared to he sleeping? Another suspicious revelation.
Coroner gave an “educated guess” early on
Coroner gave an “educated guess” early on
Coroner gave an “educated guess” early on
Coroner gave an “educated guess” early on
Coroner gave an “educated guess” early on
God bless her family
The outside trash was also never gone through
When is this trial starting anyone know? Thx
I heard probably not til next January. They claim the defense still needs to go thru all the evidence. They're stalling for some reason.
NOT buying anything we've been told. I'm so sad for the families...
Why did the house get tore down
Because the owner wanted to
The college wanted it gone. They didn't want to keep paying on it.
How can they tear the home down before a conviction is made?
Time for the parents to realize something is not right about this case! I wonder if Bk is more than likely innocent and and things were planted. There could be evidence that was left in that home that proves it wasn’t Bk and that’s probably why the house was torn down. Just my opinion. Remember the other finger prints found in the home that no one learned about? ….