Wing Chun's CHISAU - Chu Shong Tin
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- www.mindfulwin... -- Some great points and fun footage about Chi Sau. Chu Shong Tin teaches in a seminar at Mindful Wing Chun in Hong Kong in 2012.
*A note about this channel the lineage:
Sifu Nima King is the owner and team leader of Mindful Wing Chun, a CST Wing Chun school in Hong Kong with affiliations around the world. Mindful Wing Chun is wholeheartedly dedicated to passing on the internal wing chun method as passed down by Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin who was the longest serving student of Grandmaster Ip Man. Chu Shong Tin lived with Ip Man for 5 years (1950-1955) and was coined the title ' the king of siu nim tao' by his master Ip Man.
He was a legend in the world of Wing Chun (in particular the internal method of wing chun) and spent 64years passing it on full-time before he passed away in 2014. Nim King practiced under him in Hong Kong for 9 years and established Mindful Wing Chun under CST's guidance. Nima is also on the board of Directors for the 'Chu Shong Tin Alumni' which is a group of senior students of CST that were hand picked by him to establish the Alumni and to uphold and continue his teachings and Wing Chun legacy after he passed away.
Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin was a very humble and low-key Wing Chun Master therefore its only after we began putting his videos online, that people started to hear about him. In fact, majority of the main Wing CHun teachers (of the Ip Man lineage) who began practice in the 50s and early 60s (apart of Leung Sheung and Lok Yiu) were trained by CST even-though they were Ip Man's students. This is due to CST being the most snr and main teacher of Ip Man's school in those days.
Nima was lucky to start his practice under CST in 2005 because that's when CST decided to change his teaching to all internal practice so that he can pass on "Nim Tao' and 'Nim Lik' (the mind power/energy cultivated through internal Wing Chun practice) to his students.
Nima, even though a non-chinese and much younger than the other students of CST, attained a high level of these final teachings. He now mainly teaches the seniors within this lineage and also travels around giving workshops and is working on an online program so that master CST's teaching can have a greater reach.
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Long live the genuine and internal art of Wing Chun / Ving Tsun!
Mindful Wing Chun - Chu Shong Tin (Ip Man) Wing Chun / Ving Tsun - Hong Kong
This is real Wingchun. The internal aspect of Wingchun is the very reason for Wingchun to exist.
Couldn't agree more! unfortunately this aspect is very overlooked in the Wing Chun community these days
Sifu John Kaufman is a direct student of Chu Shong Tin, he was gracious enough to share his ways with me, very appreciative, only chi sau that really worked for me... Be well all...
Hi Rob. John is a very nice guy, but Actually he's a student of Masters Chu's student, who is a friends of mine here in hong kong named MA Kee Fa.
A brilliant Teacher and wonderful man, blessings Sifu...
Thank you kindly
Memories of life time! A master did the "chi" on me 17 years ago with just his 2 pinkies to demonstrate softness over my tense muscles. My feet kept sliding back the more I lowered and pushed against him. Blew my mind and see this again here gave me joy :) Keep on and keep up the good work KF brothers!
Also the few masters who obatained this, I found that they are kind and jolly. So beware of the quiet ones! Lol
I dont think people who dont have a kind nature will ever attain high levels in the internal arts. Even if they start as very unbalanced angry ppl, through the practice, they soften mentally and emotionally and transform into better human beings...
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Truth is a path. The direction taken once the path is found springs from the heart of the man. Chu Shong Tin had a pure heart and walked the proper way. But most walk in the opposite direction.
Strength is not a virtue, and neither is weakness. It is how we use that strength, once discovered, the direction we walk, which determines our virtue. Some discover more than others, but the measure of a man's knowledge is not an indicator of the cleanness of a man's heart.
A master cannot give what we do not already possess. However, he can allow us to discover what is buried within and guide us in the proper direction once we are find that path.
@@davidwilliams4837 ... the straight and narrow way that leads to true freedom. A bit like the red pill...
Which one are you?
@@MindfulWingChun agree
holy crap Nima. This video is one of the best demos ever.
Glad you think so Mark. He was a one of a kind type of teacher 🙏🏼
great info. I love how he copies them first then he switches and uses wing chun way of power. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure Christian. Glad you enjoyed it, and I'll keep posting more videos of Chu Shong Tin on this channel for you guys 👊🏼
thanks so much sifu.
👊🏼😊
Very helpful video, thanks for sharing👌
Glad you fund it helpful Scott! Cheers for the comment and Happy New Year to you and yours!
Amazing. Thank you for sharing.
Cheers man :)
totaly amazing, thank you!
my pleasure bro
Wonderful demo of Wing Chun
Thank you. Yes, he was a very special Wing Chun Kung Fu master :)
re watching . how good is CST>. amazing
Yeah man. he was another level...
this was very interesting thanks for this video
my pleasure. glad you found it interesting
"Some great points and fun footage about Chi Sau. Chu Shong Tin teaches in a seminat at Mindful Wing Chun in Hong Kong in 2012."-please correct the spelling here ,I think you wanted to say 'seminar' instead of 'seminat'......Another one-"Nima King practiced under hin in Hong Kong for 9 years and established Mindful Wing Chun under CST's guidance."-you wanted to say him not 'hin' I think....The video is just fascinating and the body mechanism as being explained by CST is really fantastic in various cases that originates from his deep understanding of the human body and how to use it to counter situations and Sifu Nima ,you are passing them in remarkable manner I think....
Thanks very much for picking out those spelling mistakes.
Yes CST has profound understanding and ability in using biomechanics and the human body in a remarkable way.
And thank you for the kind words about me and my attempt in passing on his teachings 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Sifu doesnt even move back a step.. powerful grounding
yeah he was a powerhouse, especially before he had cancer (so 10years prior to when this was taken)
@@MindfulWingChun i admire and appreciate what u ve been doing brother Nima.. so keep it up. I'm form sym lineage
@@Linanjaya Thanks for the kind words bro. And will do 👊🏼🙏🏼
@@MindfulWingChun btw about his power to generate chi.. i think (maybe i m wrong bout this) but i do think.. Sifu CST has activated d level 3 in mopai nei kung system (u may search it).. accidentally and maybe because he was very talented.
czcams.com/video/k2NAohPcT4U/video.html
This man was passed away few years ago, he was a chinese indonesian, and available to utilize his chi in such way like every mopai master did.
This one was a real deal, he had 1 student now that still teach in surabaya.
@@Linanjaya Yeah I've seen this video before. Looks so interesting! have you met his student?
It's brilliant
Glad you liked it Serg!
Great.
tnx!
Great work, Nima. Could I ask you about Sui Nim Tao question?
I have been practicing Sui Nim Tao myself for two months by keeping two main ideas in mind: back straight and least effort. However when raising arms, I still feel quite a lot 'Tension' on my shoulder (believed to be 'anterior deltoid') comparing to other parts of my body. Please let me know if you have any suggestion.
Best,
Mai
Hi Mai, thanks!
I think its just time man! keep doing the hours as it takes a long time for the body to start letting go. One thing that may help is the idea that the upright fountain-like feeling in the spine is a coat hanger and the arms (and the rest of the body) is the coat that's hanging off it. This may help to 'place' and 'hang' the arms off which'll lead to relaxation.
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:)
Just wondering, does this force affect inanimate objects?
good question. Yes it does Tommy. CST was able to lift very heavy objects. He was also able to put his mass into the Wing Chun Pole. Remarkable stuff. I'm far from where he was but am slowly able to do similar (to a lesser extent) things. Il slowly post video on my own practice as I get better at it. Things like lifting heavy objects etc.
He doesn't seem to trap the arms at all as he's so confident in his form. I'm not sure this is the best way to learn, especially if you are young and small. I learned to collapse the arm as you strike and cover/ trap with the opponents opposite arm as you strike again. And he doesn't coach the elbows in. If your elbows are out chui sau doesn't work. I'm not hating but look at his elbows, they're always in front of him pointing at the opponent.
The elbows don't need to physically be on center-line if you can focus it there (i.e. have the shoulder joint aiming the tip of the elbow inwards). I know this is not easy to believe man, but its very possible. Without this ability, the elbow needs to be physically on center to protect the center-line but in this method its not like that. I know its hard to believe but this is why I keep saying that the CST method is different from other methods. And he kept saying that this is not his method, its how wing chun is meant to be. But of course if I come out saying that I will have the entire Wing Chun community on my back saying that I'm bad mouthing their method. Actually me intention is to spread the underlying, internal ideas from this art to the world. This is why when other Wing Chun teachers come across this and touch hands, they generally start incorporating this method of practice into their training.
Witnessing that happen time and time again, is the reason why I started the Online School so that the info is accessible to all, especially to the WC teachers who are interested in the internal aspect of the art, but cant be seen in my seminars casue they will lose face (understandably so).
Wing chun is deep actually.. for some who trains in for chisao never know what generates real power.. they only know good reflexes.. good reflexes without proper structure will easily broken. I understand what cst n ur method sifu Nima.. although i m from d other lineage.. my sigung also generates power like cst.. but i still cant do it either
well wing Chun is not about trapping
@@MindfulWingChun thanks for the reply, (only just seen it for some reason!) This internal force is very strange and not easily taught remotely but I've seen enough demonstrations of it by reputable masters that I have to accept it's existence, it just seems to be a superpower like clairvoyance or faith healing, easy to deny until you witness it 'first hand,' so to speak.
@@clivewells7090 Actually we can really break it down with physics in terms of utilizing body mass efficiently, if not wanting to mention Nim Lik or energy etc.
You can move any one about if they don’t have the correct stance and you have good structure. It’s nothing special
yeah without correct stance and good structure its just a leaning push which is a very bad habit to form and nothing to do with combat. People who lean and push in things like chisau or push hands would get put on their ass very quickly in a real situation against a half decent fighter
@@MindfulWingChun absolutely agree. 👍
本人有点不明，徐系高級黐手，學生永遠不消手，當師傅進攻時，學生他們無使用其他招數去招架。一味比師兄講，要過手先練到反應，葉問詠春多元化，点止咁少。徐了灘，傍，伏，還有拉址打，過手功夫。19.03.2019
根本就無教班鬼消手，亦都無解釋d鬼d位點錯法，咩都無教……
This is a short clip taken form a 3 hr seminar. So not sure what you mean that there is no teaching going on.
黐手初期講技巧，到最後只講功力
thank you :)
As shong said , he was a failure because he didn’t create great students .
well he did leave behind his teachings and legacy and there a few of us who have dedicated our lives to it and are seeing great results now.
He was an amazing success as a practitioner and brought back the real (nearly forgotten) power of Wing Chun and surpassed his own teacher. And thanks to him we know about it and have a blue print to get there, which I have been fortunate enough to have the time and opportunity to put online in our online school for the world to access for this and the future generations. Close to 1000hours or footage...
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