Differences in Powerlifting and Weightlifting Training | JTSstrength.com
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- Powerlifting and Weightlifting are often compared but are they really that similar? Max and Chad discuss the similarities, differences and what the 2 sports have to learn from each other.
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As a powerlifter (amateur), I have nothing but admiration for those who can do the weightlifting movements well.
I weightlifter for over 20 years and I dont think that I ever completed a "perfect" snatch or clean and jerk one single time.
Its definitely technically in depth.
Keep lifting.
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powerlifting is so retarded Lmao..so easy and wack. everyone does it. no unique ability. you got 500 little asians teaming up to do powerlifitng at every local gym. idiots like russell orhii and hispanics all over doing powerlifting.
@@judowrestlerka it is like a martial art, we searching the perfection of the movement ...
@KingFreshism funny you should mention that. I am also a Judo 2nd Degree Black Belt and a wrestler (folktstyle and Samba since 7 years of age) and I 100% agree with your assertion.
I always found it ironic that "weightlifting" is a "power" critical sport, and "power lifting" is a "strength" critical sport.
They should switch the names, lol.
Yes they should
Mind=Blown
Powerlifting (WL) and Forcelifting (PL).
Ikr
not to mention "strong"man is almost all about speed combined with strength, i.e power. should be called powerman.
Chad looks like a big fluffy teddy bear with the most beautiful anime looking eyes.
And a hell of a bench press.
+mattmax85 a hell of everything man. all around athlete.
Very charming disposition. No macho BS. A real guy.
ThumbWiggler he looks like a big fluffy koala
And so polite, he's like "please subscribe" and I'm like ultrakilling the subscribe button 5 mins into the vid XD
Always had a respect for weightlifting. Really Classy sport tbh
i actually just started doing clean/jerk and snatch about a month ago. coming from 3.5 yrs power lifting. this episode couldnt have come at a better time!! thanks guys!
Brother, I hear you! I have almost 2 years of recreational power lifting experience underneath myself. I haven't been able to find an actual Oly lifting gym in my state. I just started CrossFit three weeks ago and I just learned C/J & snatch. Any confidence behind the barbell is GONE when I'm trying Oly lifts. Ughhh....I got my first successful C/J yesterday at a measly 65 lbs.
I did an hour CrossFit workout this morning, followed by a 2 hour snatch workshop...
I felt so discouraged once we moved from the PVC pipe to an actual bar. For some reason, I just have this mental disconnect and I hate the snatch! :(
I do hope so much that it gets easier soon!
+FromTheAshes7 well your first problem is your learning how to oly lift from crossturds you'll forever be at 65lbs better teaching yourself with sine CZcams videos
I started with two 45 plates a month ago so 135lbs and am up to 150lbs now. I agree powerlfiting has helped so much. I dint really wanna do C/J cos its hard to fit it into my program but Im kinda hooked now.
In France Powerlifting is called "force athlétique" (athletic force). They got this one right.
Tanirhum athletic strength est la bonne traduction
I would say they got it even more wrong.
Because olympic weightlifters are more athletic than powerlifters.
Powerlifters have more hypertrophy, are bigger and slower and less speed and power.
But lift more reps and use the eccentric face as well.
Olympic weightlifters doesn't use the eccentric face at all, and mostly bounces off the squat.
Also they never use higher reps.
Powerlifting should really be called force or strenght lifting.
in germany its called "Kraftdreikampf" (Kraft = force , Drei = three , Kampf = fight) +@@mynameisnobody3931
In Denmark it is called "styrke-løft" (strenght lift) so thats pretty fitting as well. I Will say that France got it pretty wrong this time.
In Arabic we call it (القوة البدنية) which means "strength"
can't believe you guys are giving us this information for free :) thank you so much!
I love this channel, two geniuses just bouncing off each other.
Chad, can you please do these videos with shades on? I keep getting lost in those baby blues.
I don't participate in either of these sports but I do some light barbell training and I really enjoyed this discussion. I love to learn about strength training from people that know their subject. Thank you, gentlemen.
I'm doing the championship method now and I absolutely love it. Running it all the way into USAPL Raw Nationals.
Yo you need to teach seminars to college powerlifting teams they do literally the opposite of what you suggest. No hypertrophy, 1-3rep max squats 3x a week or more and they wonder why everyone gets injured so often
That training strategy is the only way to get to the highest level of weightlifting. Unlike power-lifting, weightlifters have to engage as many muscle fibers as they can simultaneously in order to generate acceleration of the weight to complete the movements. The only way to create the mind-muscle connection necessary to do that is to lift at near maximum effort a large portion of the time. Ordinary hypertrophy progressively overloads different groups of muscle fibers but does not train the body and mind to engage all of these groups at the same time.
olympic weightlifters have amazing flexibility and mobility, while it seems a lot of powerlifters can't even touch their toes.
I'm poewrlifter and I can do the splits
Abdurahman Rabea You are a minority
I'm a powerlifter and while I cant do a split I can put my hands flat on the ground in front of me with straight legs. I used to barely be able to touch my knees with straight legs and I just stretched everyday before bed for a while and now I have good mobility.
Well it depends of the person, I practice tae Kwondo and gimnastic before Weightlifting and I can do the splits and I know weightlifters who can't do that , however,they lift heavy weights
@@abdurahmanrabea2637 same
I've learned quite a bit from all the vids in this series. very in depth and informative. much appreciated
Blaha?
This channel deserves more subs !!!
I agree
+Juggernaut Training Systems can you do a video on how to transition from powerlifting to weightlifting
refreshing to see a video that doesnt knock oly lifting and crossfit. I gave you a thumbs up and sub'ed
Same here. Nice to see the different disciplines supporting each other. The CrossFit box I attend offers weightlifting classes and has several members who compete locally. It also has a power lifter with a world record in bench press. It's all good.
Cherise Elliott whos the guy with the bench press record?
CrossFit is gay
I'm going to be doing so much studying on weightlifting once I get the mobility and bumper plates.
Get a coach, saves a lot of time
Seriously, great video! I started off with Olympic style lifting. I actually prefer it, but there surely is a big difference between the two that you both discussed. They are both respectable in their own right. Although some of the weight this weightlifters put over their head is mind boggling at times.
I think the reason these guys can squat so much... is that the squat is the grandaddy fundamental that any and all of these lifters began with. The the deadlift, the front squat, and not necessarily the back squat but it is the one we all began with, we want these lifts to be easy in comparison to the weight that you are going to clean or snatch.
I have seen a weightlifter pause rep front squat 550lbs, insane. He was often cleaning over 400.
capoman1 klokov?
capoman1 It's genetics. They have the torso/leg ratio to have great upright squats and great olympic lift numbers.
No homo but I could look into Chad's eyes all day long.
They look into your soul, don't they?
Chad's a person that looks better fat than lean too
ok, so I wasn't the only one...
He's got beautiful eyes.
That no homo thing is stupid. Just say it
7:02 omg that traps
biggest difference is weightlifting requires major technique! Hands down the biggest difference.
the more flaming discussion is when "bodybuilding" is involved. Then let the bro-science fly!
two of the best in the game(s) with such a wealth of knowledge. thank you both so much
Great job guys. I remember when I was weight lifting many people confused it with power lifting.
love the content
Thanks
This video was an in depth difference between the two training modalities of both respective weight lifting goals. Thank you.
One of the best content you can find on the web! So clear and honest, the mix of those points of view are just precious. Truth is in the middle and you always show it.
Excellent video, very informative and intelligent content. Rare to come across non-generic and uniquely beneficial information on the internet, well done guys.
You have such beautiful eyes, so icy blue. And THANK YOU!!!! For this in-depth breakdown... I don't know how many times I have to correct people when they tell others that I'm a powerlifter when I'm a weightlifter... I'm just going to post this to mah book of face.
I have done both Olympic and Powerlifting and they are right ! Good video.
All I can say is to thank you both for such an indepth analysis. I was looking exactly the same. Been power lifting since 7 years and now trying to incorporate weight lifting along. But finding it hard to find a workout structure where I could incorporate both and that too as a natural vegan lifter.
I've always felt like weightlifting is more impressive but powerlifting is more relative to the general population ( it's easier to relate to picking something up, bench pressing, and simply standing up with something on your back than it is to relate to a technical movement like the snatch)
Yes, yes, that's all fine, but the question remains. Whose dad is stronger?
Joe Hollow 2 years & ive finally found this gem.
wow Chad has nice eyes
JTS, I got the paradigm shift for ya....
Jedilifting, cause you "use the force"... and...
NASCARlifting, or F1lifting, cause "I wanna go fast!"
Seriously the best channel about strength training, always love the content.
oh my God....i think im a weightlifter....
Great production and editing. Extremely informative. Thank you and keep 'em coming!
Not sure if mentioned in the video, but I think a huge reason as to why weightlifters squat these crazy weights is that both their lifts require some sort of squatting. Powerlifting on the other hand has two other lifts that don't require a squatting movement. Weightlifting has shown that the squat can definitely benefit from much higher volume and frequency, but there's only so much volume and time you can give to 1/3 of your sport. Incorporation of more speed training in the squat is, in my opinion of course, one of the biggest things that powerlifters can take from weightlifters.
Bullshit. The start of a deadlift involves you driving from your legs until you get to the point your back takes over.
Also weightlifters bounces the squat. And uses less reps. Different styles entirely
Great point (no it wasn't mentioned in the video).
That info about front squat and clean, in America, was absolutely shocking to me.
Even the idea that a 600# (272kg) Front Squat is necessary for someone to clean 500# (227kg) is a bit far fetched. Internationally, the athletes who are able to front squat 272kg+ are likely cleaning more in the 240kg+ range.
very interesting video! I wanted to get into powerlifting for a while and only just recently got into training specifically for powerlifting. the difference being that I now train the bench, squats, and deadlift 3 times a week. great video!
You can do that for awhile but not forever. I would hate to be deadlifting what I do 3 times a week. i mean I would love it but its not possible anymore. when u get more advanced you will eventually have to develop a split program.
best video about powerlifting and weightlifting on yt
I could listen to you guys talk about training all day
Best content! Cant believe its free.
Thankyou!
Amazing content. I've bought several of their books as well as online programs. Juggernaut are the cream of the crop.
Thank you
*Getting lost in Chad's eyes
All aside though, very informational video.
I incorporate high volume into my sessions 3-4 times per week with lower weight to work on that fatigue management.
Definitely see improvements when I'm weightlifting.
What would be a good structure for creating phases in my training for weightlifting?
From a physicist. Powerlifting should be called weightlifting(force=weight), and olympic weightlifting should be named powerlifting (power = force*velocity)
Love the transparency and honesty in this video. It would have been easier to be bias and say powerlifting is better that's why weightlifters do it and not the other way around. Deserve so much more views and subscriber, keep up the good work!!! #subscribed
Lol using some exercises from a fellow sport for accessory is not proof its better...,
Thats like saying track is better than football because NFL players are testing their 40 times and perform sprints but track atheles dont do any football telated workouts
awesome video guys thank you so much for this content !!! myself and probably others here are curious about weightlifting and know little about it and come from powrelifting background... was fascinating and easy to understand; I do want to train oly training sometime. cheers
Absolutely excellent video excellent content clear and concise explanations on the differences between weight lifting and power lifting extremely informative!!!👍👌👏👊😎💯
This video is pure gold. Thank you so much!
I'd love to see more videos like this comparing Throwing (whether highland games or track and field), Strongman, Weightlifting, and Powerlifting in any combination of the four.
Chad is a damn truckload of charisma.
i like the forcelifting term, seems more appropriate in a physics standpoint
I've listen to your podcast about this topic, really great stuff but I must say what i haven't heard nobody said, that is most strong people who came late to the sport of powerlifting can have great results on the other hand if you compete in oly lifting you must start training younger to have that crisp technique and be really connected to the bar, much more technical than powerlifting where in deadlift your final position is triple extension and in clean that is just the position from where you continue into different lift where tempo is crucial, that said most people are from the influence of crosfitt where people see different kind of training that is not weightlifting, technique is made by using low % or your 1rm and using most 2-3 reps for most explosive lifts and it takes years to master it and most people dont have the willpower to just do that and drop everything and focus on just weightlifting that why you see on seminars people will show off with their pr attempts and not having proper mobility to back it up, most important thing to me for starting oly lifting is have a base but not strength more of having explosive extremities and drilling that before working with the bar, same principles as plyometrics training or running, better have exposive and fast atheletes then very strong but slow, people will start doing powercleans and power snatches without that base and just progres wrong that why usa lifters on lower levels just dont move so crisp and fast
I have explained to people for years that weightlifting and powerlifting are classified as two different sports even though they are similar, and the objective is the same. Lift as much weight as you can. Weightlifting competition consists of the snatch along with the clean and jerk. Powerlifting competition consists of the squat, bench press and the deadlift. Weightlifters do some of the powerlifting lifts in training, but it comes down to what we all do in the competition meets. I explain this to people, and it goes in one ear and out the other! It drives me up a wall! People use to ask me: Are you still weightlifting? I have given up and tell them; NO AND I NEVER DID! It bugged me! I think the best analogy would be with baseball and softball. Both sports are very similar, but yet they are DIFFERENT with two separate classifications. I want people to know the difference because I think it's important that people know our true identity on the platform.
So so interesting and detailed ! Thank you very much
Very good and informative video. Keep up the awesome work.
I wouldn’t call powerlifting force lifting. Personally I think they’re both named incorrectly. Oppositely to how they should be. Olympic/weight lifting should be referred to as power lifting and regular bench squat dead weight lifting. Should be referred to as weight lifting. How the names got reversed idk.
But which one build more bigger arms.. Powerlifting or Weightlifting?
Obviously Powerlifting.
The bench press is the king of upper body exercises.
The difference
Weightlifting - legit
Powerlifting - a fucking joke
Man when Chad decides to cut.. *whistles*
Great video. Much respect for both sports
imho any technique where the mass is at least partially ballistic, mass can be considered a proxy for power- easy to see this in the snatch, also plyometrics. powerlifters that train this way are powerbuilding. you cannot help but build strength when powerbuilding, but not all strength training builds power.
If i ever tried the Snatch movement - even with just the bar - I'd go flying backwards !!
really well explained lads, thanks
Sooooooo much knowledge. Thaanks so much
Outstanding Vid...Great topics....Thx
Does eating ass affect gains
@@ezansiyoum1234 I mean theoretically it does.
yes but it strengthens ur jaws tho
Boys, there is a reason streaming services have a skip intro button. Fockin spare us. Love the content though, just fuck any and all repetitive intros.
This was really good guys. Thanks.
Awesome topic and video!!!
By the way the guy pressing 507 lbs in red singlet is SERGE REDDING!
Amazing content guys
I remember doing oly lifts in high school, we did high rep squats and low rep, it depended on the weight, heavier weight was low reps until you got stronger than it became higher reps.
Sqauts arent oly lifting.
I'm neither a Weightlifter nor Powerlifter but was wondering about whether Fred Hatfield's compensatory acceleration training is related to this discussion as it strikes me as essentially doing powerlifting movements in an Olympic Weightlifting manner (although I suppose there is the eccentric phase of the movement) with the purpose of improving powerlifting performance. I don't know how influential Dr Squat was in the powerlifting world so maybe it isn't worth mentioning but was just curious and thought it offers are counterpoint to weightlifters using some powerlifting methods. Similarly, it seems some famous bodybuilders have done high reps with relatively heavy weight emphasizing explosiveness, learning to try and preserve form, such as Tom Platz for squats, Lee Haney for some exercises like barbell rows and bench press, Sergio Oliva with bench press, dips, and squats, such that they could increase the stimulation of the lifts without having to go as heavy as they might otherwise have needed to and so avoided injury.
Great stuff, as always.
This was an amazing video!
Very informative. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Every time I see Chads beautiful round face and stunning eyes I can’t help but smile and feel happy. Ty for sharing this knowledge.
Awesome vid guys!
Thank you guys for the information, great stuff keep it up guys, question, how to deal with let's say back injury, while training for powerlifting? either training for a meet, or just training to improve the weak points, any tips or certain patterns of training to follow? again thank you guys great stuff...
There's is a big differences in techniques or postures for example the squat from pw & squat wl have very variations in postures. For the Grace of God i did competed in wl 5 years allways have the curiosity of pw n y did competed competed once n won 1s place
I think starting from today I will be considering myself weightlifting
As a powerlifter, in my opinion, accomplished olympic weightlifters are more impressive to me than powerlifters.
@Frank Burjan Definitely a more technical sport.
Great stuff thanks a lot
4:30 Mattie
Chad have such beautiful eyes.
In the video, you talked what weighlifters may learn from powerlifters. What about vice versa? Is there something that powerlifters may learn from Olympic weightlifters? Or more specifically, are their any aspects of weightlifting training that could be successfully applied or utilised also in powerlifting?
Max talks about that in the video.
Sorry about that, I missed that bit when I listened for the first time.
Great points!
I saw some Cal Strength clips in there
Big boy💪🏾🏋🏾
which of the two is most used in everyday movements ? day to day
6:46 Hehehe Hassle free
Hey JTS, thanks for the awesome content. Quick questions, you concluded some things weightlifting could take away from powerlifting but what can you take away from weightlifting as a powerlifter? Did I maybe miss that in the video. I see more and more powerlifters doing "speed work", so maybe that is something to take away from weightlifting?
Max addresses it
ok so which is best to build your legs ? Anyone ? can someone explain this to me in beginner friendly words. Sorry and thank you
superb video!
great videos!!
I watched this video three times now! It's awesome. Do you think going above the MRV is more problematic for weightlifting than powerlifting? Considering the technical demands of weightlifting, is there a risk that overreaching causes one to start using and ingraining bad habits, technique wise? If a powerlifter overreaches a bit, it's still not that hard to do the lift, we just need a few deload sessions and we come back stronger. These are just my speculations and I have no experience with weightlifting myself.
Exceeding MRV is definitely a concern for both but yes, weightlifters do need to be very mindful of too much fatigue negatively impacting their technical development.
really informative video but the audio had a bit of distracting background noise, sounded like you guys were on an airplane
This was gold, thank you.
So lets say a powerlifter was to copy only the squatting components of a olympic weightlifter program, can we assume that this would NOT work to increase the powerlifter's 1 rep max squat? (because we now know that olympic weightlifter's squats are a symptom of all the clean/snatch training PLUS squat work?)
They would increase their 1RM just cause of Overload and Specificity. However, this would stall very early on. They'd probably see progress and PRs for 6-8 weeks, but after that progress would halt for a very long time.
I think Max Aita mentioned he put on something like a 100lbs on his squat in 8 weeks with the everyday squatting, but then for the rest of the year he yielded a lot less so agree with the above comment by Daniel.
To add to that, it was done with Front Squats. Also, it's very random. The goal of programming for a meet is to be your strongest on that particular day. With out a structured program/plan like Squat Everyday, you might not be at your best the day of the meet.