Bad and Disappointing Video Game Sequels
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Bad Sequels are all over the place. Movies, Video Games, Music even? A terrible or bad game coming in the form of a followup is rare but it's been happening since the old Nintendo days to now with the PS5. Am I still mad about FF13? Not so much, but I can recognize stinky when I see it.
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0:00 - Intro (The Usuals and Googled)
03:52 - Legacy and Franchise Enders
06:55 - No One Lives Forever's OTHER Sequel
10:42 - Is Anyone Here Ultima Old?
14:00 - Stinky Retro Sequels
17:48 - Complete Disasters (Dynasty Warriors 9, Shenmue)
21:48 - State of Emergency 2
25:52 - TOP 5 MOST DISAPPOINTING SEQUELS OF ALL TIME
39:40 - SPIDER-MAN 3 THE MOVIE THE GAME
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What's a terrible sequel you played? Feel free to toss in the disappointing ones too. I KNOW there's gonna be some hot takes but let's keep it civil. Otherwise someone's gonna get into a fight over something like Persona 4 and we can't do that.
Hi just want to make you aware that sometimes the user Spacething7474 can be quite annoying
Austin, you completely forgot that the creators literally released No One Lives Forever 1 and 2 on their site for free a few years ago.
Wait, did you not know that Wreckfest is current gen Flat Out?!? You gotta play it!
My #1 Bad sequel is Guilty Gear Strive.
That game is the antithesis of everything that made the series.
fighting force 2
honestly i'm much more curious about the inverse of this: good sequel(s) to bad/disappointing games
Me too
The first example I can think of at the top of my head is Devil May Cry 3.
Titanfall 2
@@natoriousthehopeful2786 the closet example i can think of is the sniper ghost warrior series, where its first game (art of victory) got a 36/100 on metacritic, and about every entry since has roughly got a better overall score than the previous one
Yooka-Laylee and The Impossible Lair would probably fall under this
Contract Jack almost comes across as a protest game. "Here's your shitty corridor shooter since you didn't buy our superior games."
Yup that’s exactly what it was. The name gave it away lmao
It is baffling that Pac-Man World was actually good despite not having any real Pac Man games that weren't just quarter munchers previously, but Earthworm Jim couldn't make the transition to 3D.
Pac Man World was a perfect celebration of the dot muncher by not only having a new 3D adventure, but also incorporating an emulated throwback to the OG Pac Man
With Spider-Man 3 being re released in theaters, this video feels pretty appropriate right about now.
For once I didn't plan this. BUT ITS STILL TRUE
Listen here!! I can take someone making fun of BoF Dragon Quarter, but not when it's coming from someone who praises Suikoden 3. Pistols at dawn. BE THERE!!
I'm a sonic heroes defender, who's understudy should I be?
That's what EA does. Buy a good or promising studio, put them in crunch mode, destroy them after the first bad game. Once EA buys you, your company is over.
Ruined sims, gave up on the Alice series, and ruined dragon age😢
Ultima IX?
Cue the obligatory "What's a paladin?" memes!
I'm not entirely sure
"Your knowledge of the land shall be vast."
Betrayal
It's a lackluster title due to core gameplay issues, but EA did do something very smart with regards to Ultima IX; they mailed out replacement CDs to anyone who wanted them at no charge, with significant bugfixes and patches to "make up" for launching it in a nearly-broken state. This was when everybody was on dial-up modems or had no Internet access at all, so downloading was ardous for most; but whoever in their marketing department decided to also include an Ultima Online CD with it, well; they made a tidy profit off of me over the next half-a-decade in one of the earliest MMOs..
My younger sister got married thanks to meeting her hubby in UO too, and have been together nearly 25 years now. So, yeah, despite being a mediocre-at-best or awful-at-worst entry in a beloved franchise, it made a significant mark on my and my family's lives. Finally, I often play as a Paladin in games both video and tabletop, and Final Fantasy IV is one of my all time favorites, so the "What's a paladin?" line struck me for psychic damage when I first heard it...
To quote Spoony:
"WHAT'S...A...PALADIN!?!? (Gives two middle fingers) F************K YOOOOOOOOUUUUU!!!"
Oh boy I can't wait to watch a new Austin Eruption video oh BomberMan Act Zero is peak gaming
Edit WTF
To call Perfect Dark Zero a disappointment is like calling the Titanic a little oopsie. After the masterpiece in 2000, I was expecting something decent in 2005, but all I played was sadness.
I hope nearly 20 years of sadness can lessen the blow a little bit
@@austineruptionI've gone from writing daily indignant letters to Microsoft to just weekly indignant letters, so I'd say I'm doing better. 😅😌
This game is not a sequel but a prequel from the Nintendo 64
@@caiolimacaldas I know, but that's irrelevant, it's still terrible. Even the Game Boy Color had an ok PD game. Should be called Perfect Dark 0/10 😅
For real, it was abhorrent. I think I played like three missions and then stopped and never went back. The atmosphere, the tone, the awesome music... All of it was just GONE
The most disappointing game for me is a pretty recent one. Drawn to Life Two Realms was meant to be the reintroduction to the world of drawn to life for a modern audience. It went from an okay action platformer with a beautiful art style, well written characters, and a stellar soundtrack to a buggy mess of a puzzle platformer. It’s clear the game had a small budget, but it really showed when the only thing you could draw that was in any way intractable was the main character. I don’t even want to get into the ending which feels like it’s meant to be a massive plot twist, but means nothing for the audience.
Yeah I didint even complete it I got 2 minutes in it was NOT drawn to life
It's less "Drawn to Life" and more "Dollar Store Super Mario Maker."
The Vanilla version of Ninja Gaiden 3 was pretty awful. No dismemberment and you had ONE weapon and ninpo spell? Like...bruh
I remember being very excited for Crackdown 2 after finishing the first one. Like, I thought it was going to be about fighting against the agency with the twist at the end of the first game but it was just an extremely bland zombified version of the first one.
Oh, man, I forgot about Crackdown
crackdown 1 is awesome, i still get nauseous when i fall for long distance hahahah
what the heck is crackdown 2??? i really tried to like it, but drive to beacons, jump down hole shoot 10 FRIGGIN minutes of zombies rinse and repeat, can't add alil storyline or something else to do ? hahaha
I remember being very underwhelmed and disappointed with crackdown 2, i could mention crackdown 3 but i never expected much out of it after so many years and seeing how the 2nd game turned out.
13:10 This is one reason I hate EA, a single failed game and they scrape everything, shut down a studio and put the IP dormant for literally decades. They can't even admit it's mostly their own fault for mismanaging it and the developers suffer the most, alongside fans who well never see another entry again.
Haha! The old school CZcams callback complete with the choppy mic and Windows MovieMaker slides - just perfect. 😂
The Spider-Man 3 PS2 version is a completely different game, not a port. It’s actually decent - not as good as Spider-Man 2 of course, but the PS2 version is kinda overshadowed by how bad the 360/PS3 ones are
Its funny actually how despite being on inferior hardware, the PS2 and Wii versions actually are better games by having a better pace of the story and having more content such as an entire Morbius subplot.
The game was also developed by Vicarious Visions, the B team that developed Ultimate Spider Man. A decent and rather overlooked game
PS2 version is weirdly the better version lmao
Oh, so that's why I actually had a fond memory of it lmao
They were talking about the 360 version
lol I was SO thrown away by the commercials for that game…ps2 was an “ok”game
@@cloudshines812 Seemed to be the case with a lot of games released during console transitions
How ironic that a Rockstar game is anti corporation, what does Take 2 think about it?
Mark Fisher and Slavoj Žižek wrote about this Capitalist Realism and The Sublime Object of Ideology. Basically the ironic distance allows corporations to sell back anti-capitalist consumption instead of activism.
you do realize there like billions to be made in "anti corporate" media right?
The No One Lives Forever situation especially sucks because Night Dive Studios has been trying to get it back and make it available for years. But the IP rights are a tangled mess with Vivendi (Activision/Microsoft), Monolith (WB), and 20th Century Fox (Disney) all technically having a hand in making it while also not actually owning the IP. Even Activision and the lead designer were interviewed and both parties said they had no clue who owns it. When Vivendi Universal was bought out by Activision they very well said they possibly pawned off the rights meaning it is stuck with some law firm somewhere. Sad story and perfect use case for emulation.
Couldn't they just split the sales evenly between the companies even if they might not own it, it's not like they're making money off it anyway
Jak and Daxter: The Final Frontier. I don't care how it plays out what even the plot is - barely into the game I was disgusted with the amount of character assassination and how much it doesn't care about the previous titles.
Worth mentioning also is that Dynasty Warriors 9, as a consequence (or rather, KT making an excuse) of the new combat system, several characters had their unique weapons and movesets taken away from them, now being forced to share weapons with other characters! But don't worry, KT heard your cries! You can now buy them back as PAID DLC. Tragically this mind disease infected and helped to ruin the next Samurai Warriors as well.
Game sequels that I don't like and regret spending my time or money on: Devil May Cry 2 and the reboot, Final Fantasy 13, Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition, Hitman Absolution, Command & Conquer 4 ( so bad it killed the franchise), Borderlands 3, Gothic 3
Game sequels that are considered bad or disappointing but I still had fun with them: Resident Evil 6, Halo 4, Diablo 3, Unreal 2, Street Fighter V, Final Fantasy X-2
Just Bad Games figured out Flatout 3 was just multiple other games smashed together after buying Flatout.
Seeing Ultima IX just transported me to Spoonys videos on it
Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter is actually phenomenal. Once I gave it a chance it became my favourite game in the series
Yup. One of the best RPGs on the PS2. Ahead of its time, especially with its roguelike elements being super popular nowadays.
I'm shocked you didn't mention Def Jam: Icons, that game was awful and killed the game series forever
That was a big lesson for me as a kid to not buy the sequel to a game just because you liked the original. I loved Fight for New York and was stoked for Icon. Then I popped the game in and was massively let down by the awkward floaty physics, unresponsive controls and the terrible gimmick where you had to interact with the environments to defeat your opponents.
As someone who's platinumed FF13 3 times (twice on 360, the most recent time on PC with mods), eat me, Austin.
Mega Man X5, X6, & X7 are BAFFLING in design. Rookie Hunter mode is a godsend for dealing with these games. Also not saying Epic Mickey was anything amazing, but Epic Mickey 2 was so bad that it killed Junction Point & ended Oswald's chance for relevancy.
I weirdly like X5. X6 and 7 suck though.
X5 was at least decent, and the fact that Alyson Court turned the Mavericks into Guns N Roses references is hilariously awesome.
I won't die hard defend X5, but it's not unplayable. It's got some STOOPID AHH design decisions, 100%, but I could still roll with it.
As a kid, X6 was actually my favorite lol. I just REALLY loved X's Shadow Armor
On the other side of the spectrum, Gaea Armor. The first time I felt betrayed for accomplishing something
And we don't talk about X7. Making X as an unlockable character was an insane decision
I forgot about Epic Mickey 2. That one was a letdown.
It saddens me that Tales of Berseria is one of my favorites in the series, but if you want someone to fully understand the story you need to tell them to play Zestiria...
Legend of Legaia was actually my first introduction to JRPGs. I LOVED it so much. Bought the sequel on ps2 and couldn’t even finish it..
Yup same I don't know what they were thinking with Legaia 2
@@Taliasaurus I know the main dude behind the first one had no part in the second
@@grahfkarate1799 That makes a lot of sense actually. Legend of Legaia had such a unique vision probably due to him
Project CARS 3...basically a mobile game on console killed the franchise
It's also a shame that both of the older Project CARS games got delisted, so the third one is the only option for people interested in trying the franchise nowadays.
God, it hurts to know that Project CARS is more-or-less dead.
EWJ was also on PC in the year 2000. While I agree it's not very good, I'll say this; The PC version's soundtrack is actually pretty neat.
For those who want more about Ultima, this old youtuber - Spoony - did like the most comprehensive and hilarious retrospective of what it was like to grow up with each of these games. Highly recommend those videos!
I miss him...
Spoony did the first retrospective.
Finntrovert has taken the reigns and done a very in-depth retrospective, and Majuular is doing a massive deep dive.
All recommended.
@@otaking3582we all do, losing everything destroys creativity.
(Lost his place, his gf and recently his dog)
Majuular has a retrospective series going over ultima
To this day, the Zell mentos commercial gag is still the funniest thing I've ever seen you a youtube video about video games
Bruce Campbell actually did the voice for a gaming tutorial. The man is a working actor.
I'm very glad I'm not alone zestirea was very empty compared to so many others bersara was better but still attached to zest and don't forget in zest in order to get the full ending you needed to buy DLC
Megaman X7 will always disappoint me. The X series was one of my favorites and I was so looking forward to a new one, and I got it, and it's a janky 3D mess where you can't even play as X until like halfway through the game (unless you know what you're doing).
Weird how influential Texas was in the rise of videogames, but most people don't know lol
I believe I recall reading that they based the original State of Emergency on the idea of the Pedestrians Riot cheat from GTA.
Not even saying this for memes or whatever, but I was late to the Bomberman hype, played some 360 arcade games, got semi-addicted, then ended up getting act Zero. At first, totally dogged the "Gritty" Bomberman style, but after a while, I actually sunk a crazy amount of time, and had some good times boosting with some friends for achievements. It's honestly not as bad as people think... Oh don't get me wrong, the idea of "Gritty Bomberman with Breasts" is totally a joke. But the game can actually be a ton of fun.
In Double Dragon, just imagine if they had entered Bimmy and Jilly instead of Bimmy and Jimmy.
Most people point to sonic 06 being the worst sonic sequel which is understandable, its fucked beyond belief and the only fun you can have form it is breaking it or watching other people suffer through it like Lythero did recently, but personally to me sonic forces is the worse sonic sequel simply by the merit of being a disappointing bland ball of grey sludge that squanders any promising idea's it has (infinite, Eggman winning, phantom ruby, custom character), plus its an actual sequel/continuation to sonic mania, a game good enough to be in the S tier of sonic games, so to go form S tier to E tier at best is far, far more annoying (soundtrack is banger as usual tho)
Twisted Metal 3. Absolutely horrible!
Perfect Dark Zero doesn't suck it's just short as hell. I remember getting an Xbox 360 in 2006 and getting Perfect Dark Zero and I beat it in a day and was like what where's the rest of it.
Great video! I'm so happy Earthworm Jim 3D was first on here because I'm still not over it. I need more videos of bad video game sequels, there's so many to explore and complain about 🥰❤❤❤
"Who made this soundtrack?! The London Symphony Arm-Farters?!"
-Daddy Caddy on Bubsy 3D
Just wanna say that hudson was doing a lot with bomberman when act zero released
Like a lot, they had gba, ds and ps2 titles releasing around that time
How do I get in touch with Konami and politely (desperately) plead with them to give us a remake of Bomberman 64, Second Attack, and Hero?
Heck I'll take bare-bones ports of Generation and Jetters PLEASE I want Bomberman adventure games back not grid battle games.😢
Shots fired in the opening seconds.
And they were deserved
What happened to No One Lives Forever, and I'm directly quoted the creator here. Who planned to crowd fund buying the rights back to make a sequel. Found out thanks to studios buying each other and trading hands multiple times. Resulting in no one knowing who even owns the rights to No One Lives Forever featuring Katie Archer. Hence why Jack happened. Hope this clears things up.
Something to mention about the early 3D era of games. A lot of developers were more focused on making games 3 dimensional, rather than making games good. Thus we ended up with a lot of mediocre or bad games.
Lovely video, no notes. Always nice to see something amazing come out of Austin, Texas.
Star ocean the last hope was decent enough that I enjoyed it. Integrity and faithlesness was somehow so bad people realize the last hope wasn't as bad as they thought
oh god you unearthed some deep memories of me watching Spoony videos back in the day when you brought up Ultima
Heard in your saints row video that Forspoken is coming soon! I’m one of the few people who enjoyed that game (I even moderate the subreddit!) so I truly look forward to seeing it! Hope you at least had a little bit of fun like a lot of us have!
At least Samurai Warriors 5 is a thing. Really need to finish playing it, one of the best art styles Ive seen lately imo. Cell/painterly style done right for a game.
Nice vid 🔥🔥🔥 never knew about that theme!
I played Dynasty Warriors 9 a couple years after release and had a good time with it. Must have put 200+ hours. Granted, that maybe had more to do with the fact I had just gotten out of a long relationship and spent my nights drinking a dozen natty lights while staring dead-eyed at the screen, killing thousands of nameless Chinese soldiers just wanting to distract myself long enough for the beer to knock me out so I didn't have a free second to think about my ex-girlfriend...
Yeah 8 out of 10.
Haven't we all been there?
Grandia III may not have excelled in every aspect. But it is, in my opinion, a really solid "good-but-not-great" JRPG. It is far from the bottom tier PS2 era sequels such as Legaia 2.
"It doesn't say anything about charging"
You mean the text on screen that says "Press and hold square to charge an attack"? 😂
If I knew that there was a Pac-Man 2 speed run community when I was younger I would have been able to finish in 15 to 20 minutes without using cheats
Great video as always!
Star Ocean I&F - yes, what all the fans are clamouring for - a Star Ocean game with no spaceships/space travel.
seeing tales of symphonia dawn of the new world flash on the screen for a couple of seconds made my heart rate spike as the only person in the west who genuinely loves that game so i was relieved when you didn't say a word about it and just went on to talk about zestiria lol
Fighting Force 2 is maybe my biggest disappointment in Sequel history.
Sonic Adventure 2...im probably the only crazy person who actually loved wandering around the over world and getting pieces of the story. Even getting through the same levels, altered slightly for each character. But the 2nd one did away with the exploration and only kept the action levels.. its probably just me!
Austin, you completely forgot that the creators literally released No One Lives Forever 1 and 2 on their site for free a few years ago.
I did! WHOOPS!
Really? That's great, I've never played them
The PS2 version of Spider Man 3 was also the one the Wii got, and I actually had a fantastic time with it, much more than with the Xbox 360 release anyway. The motion controls really work well in it for the most part, and it makes you feel more like Spider Man doing it, so you do have to engage a bit with your imagination to get than fun, I bet. But also just mechanically I had fun playing it, several times over even just like with Spider Man 2. The Wii release is a unique animal, and if you're a rare cross section fan of the games style, the film, and motion control gameplay, it might be the hidden gem for you that it was for me.
Another problem with dynasty warriors 9 was that alot of characthers had had the same animation and special atks for a lot of sequels, and then they changed it so that there was only the generic set of atks for each weapon, and some of the warriors got a weapon change so they also have the same generic atks. Thus killing all the flair of each warrior.
My game sequel disappointment manifested in two different series.
The first was Tomb Raider. I LOVED Legend, PC equivalent platinumed it, played it dozens of times. Found Anniversary really clunky, especially with the game breaking bugs on PC. And Underworld just felt...flat. Never finished it. Those two turned me off TR as a player, though I will remain a fan.
The second was Travellers' Tales LEGO titles. I LOVED the games between Star Wars the Video Game in 2005 and LEGO Indiana Jones and Batman in 2008. Then...LEGO Clone Wars just feels really weird, and the other later games just don't seem to have any heart. And they seem to be becoming jankier.
I never got around the Underworld but it always looked so... I guess underwhelming?
@@austineruption It looks stunning, and it's got a good story, but... Urgh, the mechanics feel wonky and janky at times. And the character movement looks off.
@@austineruption Underworld on the whole is still a good TR game but you will be actively fighting the camera at all times.
My friend and I decided to 100% all the lego star wars games and we actually really liked III (though we wished it had gotten made later with the stories from better clone wars seasons.) 7 was meh but the starfighter combat was cool. skywalker saga was complete dog water though. Unlocking any and every character outside of the story characters requires some kind of chore or fetch quest and there are like a thousand of them. Fucking awful. Replaying the story on free play was alright but that might've just been Stockholm syndrome from being able to do anything besides lame ass lego chores.
Wild lol Lego Star Wars the clone wars is the best Lego star wars game imo and DC Super villains is great too
Love yer videos~ but also if you’re gonna mention Earthworm Jim you gotta mention Doug TenNapel. Earthworm Jim and Neverhood were both some of the wackiest video game experiences I had as a kid
Metal gear 4 is probably the worst of mainline MGS’s
I have never seen a series taken out back and absolutely destroyed with a sawed off shotgun blast quite like Borderlands 3. Borderlands 2 is the best shooter I have ever played and was my absolute favorite thing to do as soon as I got home from school. Cut forward to B3 being announced and I was stoked, my friend and I pre ordered and played it all at release and god did we ever do that. The writing, characters, the total itendity of Borderlands was utterly shit on for the entire run time. I have never been burned quite like that ever before or after.
Another banger, so fast too
I know this video came out the day before this game did, but I've gotta say Endless Ocean Luminous. Like it's not a BAD game. The stuff it does, it does pretty well. I've still put over 100 hours into it, but like...wow, as an Endless Ocean fan, it does NOT do what I loved from the previous games.
More of these please 🙏
You should totally get into Ultima! I played U4 up to U7 for the first time a few years back and had a lot of fun doing it. They all hold up surprisingly well, and there are a bunch of fan made custom engines that make playing them on modern hardware really easy.
Would like a second and third part. There is definitely enough out there to keep this going.
I'm not Ultima old (obvi ) but hearing the name gave me hard whiplash to a set of early 00s videos about the series
I bet Suikoden IV won't be here if they let Lazlo kill snowe in the most humiliating way and don't put him as one of the 108 star of destiny
:)
Just skip the tutorial and die in the first boat battle. Easy way to make it a bad game. haha
As mentioned in my other comment, I'm surprised there's no mention of V. I never got to finish it, but I remember it being way better than IV from the portion I played.
I gotta say... My childhood was really fun with the multiplayer of Perfect Dark Zero, the special guns, 20+ bots in a room and splitscreen was so much fun, my sisters and I would spend hours playing it.
Suikoden IV and Grandia III were actually my introductions to their respective series. Thankfully, they didn't dissuade me from checking out the earlier entries once they became available on Steam and the PS Store. As for sequels that I personally think are disappointing, Mario Party 8 might not be horrible (at least with its gameplay; MC Ballyhoo is a creepy little guy), but I will never remember it as fondly as the N64 or Gamecube entries.
Integrity and Faithlessenss has a really weird special place in my mind. It's the first time where I was playing a video game and it didn't feel like a game was happening. I vaguely recall walking from place to place, walking into a portal at one point, and eventually filling out the party. It wasn't bad; it was nothing. I genuinely can't recall the plot in any way, shape, or form except the main character's name was Fidel Camuze.
I am Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness' soldier. It gets dragged down because of the also overhated Castlevania 64, but it's a solid action title in the N64 library and a fine adaptation of the classic gameplay in 3D.
Also Cornell is a awesome lead hero
I tend to be pretty open minded about games and sequels, or at least I try to be, but I think the one that sticks out most for me is Megaman X5. I don't think it's like, irreconcilably awful or anything, but the quality level is such a nosedive from X4 (which is also one of my favorite games of all time) that I couldn't help be disappointed.
Top that off with baffling and obnoxious design decisions like losing X's Fourth Armor if you play the intro stage as Zero or having some story outcomes decided by RNG and it was just such a letdown
I absolutely loved playing perfect dark zero in co op with my buds, getting the jetpack, silly weapons and maps it was fun
Another great Austin eruption video to start off the day.
14:19 CAPCOM STRIDER IS SO FIRE
Hey Austin, if you’ve ever got the time you really should give dragon quarter another go. It’s actually a really good game, just not a breath of fire game lol.
Austin mentioned a Tales game?? For being such a huge series I rarely ever hear a single YT'er mention the games.
I'm glad that I see more mentions of No One Lives Forever, these days. If I don't get NOLF 3 someday I'll pitch suuuch a fit.
Wow. I was gonna list State of Emergency 2 as my bad game sequel thinking there was no way it would be on your list. Well done.
If you're interested in learning more about the Ultama games @Majuular is doing a retrospective series. He just did an episode on Ultama 4
8:27 cool, it's Michael C. Hall as Dexter!
Hay man, Dragon Quarter is a masterpiece. I've played 2-4 and still stands as my favorite of the bunch.
Blood 2 was my first really big disappointment, way back in the 90s. The OG Blood is a retro FPS classic... whereas Blood 2 is 'clearly' unfinished in many ways (yeah, the devs didn't have enough time to finish it). There are so, so many bad sequels it's hard to make a comprehensive list, but your video highlights some really interesting examples!
Tales of Eternia was mentioned! 😍 My favourite tales game. Played through it several times on psp
I played the original Dark Souls for the first time in 2018 and, by the end, it became my favorite game of all time. Then I played Dark Souls 2 right after. Talk about disappointing
If you grow up in the 90s you likely played Lego Island and we're hoping for more of that. What we got in LEGO Island 2 with a giant series of linear mini games. Was more a interactive 3D activity center rather than a Grand adventure.
I'm glad you bought up grandia 3. Because I played the second one on Dreamcast and I got excited because the third one was being released. I use my McDonald's employee money to buy it and it tells me on the box that Dean Cain is the voice of a main character and I don't think of Dean Cain as someone at with a good voice for voiceovers. The second one had Michaelangelo the turtles voice..
I returned that game the next day and up until now I wonder if I should give it another chance
Force Unleased 2, Dead Rising 4, Dead space 3, Metal Gear Survive, Dino Crisis 3, Mass Effect Andromeda, Megaman X7, Paper Mario Sticker Star/Color Splash, just tipping the iceberg for what companies did to them
At the start of this video, I thought for a bit, and then remembered how Suikoden IV was such a disappointment that I never even purchased it. SMH
At least V was good.
This will probably mean nothing to most except for like 3 people, but Spellforce 2 was such a downgrade compared to Spellforce 1. Spellforce 1 was this fun germanjank RPG/RTS hybrid that was glitchy as hell, but also just gave you so much freedom on how to create your character. I replayed it like 2 years ago and it was an absolute blast.
And then I played Spellforce 2 and turned it off like 2 hours later. Instead of just allowing you whatever you wanna do (like having a heavy-armored greatsword wielding guy who also is specifically into necromancy), it streamlined everything. Now you have to work through levels and levels of skilltrees to get the stuff you want. Meanwhile the RTS side also got streamlined way too much - the first one had like silly resources that only certain factions could use (and some factions needed to be provided with resources from other factions to get speciality units). The second one reduced it to just 3 or 4 resources all factions use, and it just took the fun out of the game.
Theoretically all those options are better on paper - making it easier to approach for new people. But in practice, it made the game just absolutely boring.