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“Anybody carrying the name of god is called god.” This is going to be another brilliant conversation lol
Glory to our Triune God ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻✝️☦️
pagan
@@misteryoww5026 Jesus is Lord!
@@misteryoww5026 what pagan beliefs match the Triune Godhead?
@@misteryoww5026 Worship the LIVING GOD YAHOVA, my friend, not the dead⚰️🥀💀 false PAGAN god that Qutham (Mo, aka the Praised One) calls al-Lah, which we all know who it is 😈😈😈
Amen 🙏🏽
Bloodfire your growth as an apologist can only be supernaturally given. I can’t believe how young you are yet you can hold your against different unbelievers on a broad range of topics. May God continue to bless you
Jesus was not a trinitarian 🤷♂️
@@johnno. you have sons of Gods by the tons in the Bible and stop misquoting Jesus
@@johnno. will have a discussion this Sunday Genesis The Fall of Man
@@mrbrowntvdefendingislam3435 You don't know Jesus, you know an imposter you call Isa. Jesus in Hebrew is Yeshua and means saviour, Isa is a made up word that doesn't mean anything.
Wonderful to follow brother BF as he has grown in his knowledge. I'm proper learning from him. Thanks JC!
Bloodfire completely dealt with the unitarians once and forever Jesus is Lord.
Great job Bloodfire. God bless you 🙏❤️
There are a couple of Brilliant / Brilliant Semiars by ( Dr Michael Heiser ) for people like this ( Unitarian and others ) that i can totally recommend , ( 1 ) The Unseen Realm , and ( 2 ) Reversing Hermon , on ( Sentinel Apologetics channel ) . Please do check them out !!! . Thank you .
thank you, I am already familiar with him but didn't know this.
Jesus is Lord” indicates that Jesus is God. Jesus holds “all authority in heaven and on earth” (Matthew 28:18). He is “Lord of the Sabbath” (Luke 6:5); “our only Sovereign and Lord” (Jude 1:4); and “the Lord of lords” (Revelation 17:14).
Jesus was made Lord & Christ by his God Acts 2:36
Does that mean God made Jesus God ?
John 10:30, NIV: I and the Father are one.'
THE NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME
Acts 2:36.
It is no part of my purpose at this time to consider the special circumstances under which these words were spoken, nor even to enter upon an exposition of their whole scope. I select them for one reason, the occurrence in them of the three names by which we designate our Saviour-Jesus, Lord, Christ. To us they are very little more than three proper names; they were very different to these men who listened to the characteristically vehement discourse of the Apostle Peter. It wanted some courage to stand up at Pentecost and proclaim on the housetop what he had spoken in the ear long ago, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God!’ To most of his listeners to say ‘Jesus is the Christ’ was folly, and to say ‘Jesus is the Lord’ was blasphemy.
The three names are names of the same Person, but they proclaim altogether different aspects of His work and His character. The name ‘Jesus’ is the name of the Man, and brings to us a Brother; the name ‘Christ’ is the name of office, and brings to us a Redeemer; the name ‘Lord’ is the name of dignity, and brings to us a King.
i see taylor stewart ( stand on scripture ) is still scraping the barrel of his so called debate with bloodfire because he genuinely has no other content ( materiel ) to use. stand strong in the faith bloodfire and raise the banner of the lord ( jesus ) as our refuge our fortress and strength blessed is he who comes in the name of the lord
@micah john it depends on how you view daniel 7 and context
@micah john remember ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN also remember what jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but my words will what ? REMAIN FOR EVER
@micah john
*Jesus clearly said that he is the God of David.*
Matthew 22:41-46
41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42“What do you think about the Messiah? Whose son is he?”
“The son of David,” they replied.
43He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,
44“ ‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.” ’
45If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?” 46No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.
@micah john daniels vission was it before jesus died on the cross or was it after ?
I havnt seen Jesus come down in the cloud yet, or has come and gone and wont returned, and I miss it all, I must of been asleep..?
Bloodfire’s arguments was stronger
@micah john that is going to take way moore time then i have right now
Blood fire you have grown from strength to strength and you are now my favourite speaker. Well done mate.
@micah john I belive in the trinity and I believe christ is God. The points bloodfire made are all true to the scriptures.
Very nice debate bro
Jesis is called the Messiah in Matthew 1:16. In fact, every time someone says, “Jesus Christ,” he is referring to Jesus as the Messiah, since Christ means “Messiah” or “Anointed One.” The Old Testament predicts the Messiah, and the New Testament reveals the Messiah to be Jesus of Nazareth.
"I was that source of love..." SMH.
What did James think of Paul
One of my deepest questions of faith is why did James go after Paul for teaching the gentiles if he's the brother of Jesus?
Why do people try to run away from John 1:1?
Just read it really slowly
“In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was WITH GOD, and the WORD WAS GOD. ( so the word was distinct from God and yet it was also God )
The same WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD. ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. HE WAS IN THE WORLD, AND THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, AND DWELT AMOMG US, ( THE WORD WHO WAS PREEXISTING WITH GOD AND ALSO WAS GOD BECAME FLESH AKA JESUS CHRIST ) (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1-14 KJV
Anybody who tries to shrug away John 1 is being dishonest to the text or they have never read the text.
@micah john are you a Unitarian?
@micah john I don’t think you worded your comment correctly either man. I’m assuming you meant “what did he say that wasn’t right?” not “what did he say that was right?” Because I don’t think the Unitarian said anything that was correct honestly.
I can see from comments you’ve made on other posts that you’re not a Trinitarian so please read The first chapter of John slowly. Trust me you’ll start running instantly if you’re dishonest to the text.
@micah john bro you have to actually make a sentence intelligible. I don’t know what you’re talking about.
i always use john 1:1 and John 1:14 for the unitarians and they run for it. They say the silliest things that Jesus isnt God and that he was made in the image of God 🥲🤌🏻
@@anakatana777 amen!
I need to know what this guys message is who carries around his signs like they have meaning. What is the point?!
Trinity is the way
Where can I find the word trinity in the Bible
It’s not a word it’s a concept you read the Bible and you get the trinity
David received Dubiea
Wearing a black cap guy, making good points. Thanks
I never see a Unitarian come to a debate with his quiver full of scriptures to back up their claim. But a Trinitarian will come with every scripture to validate his stance The Trinitarian stance is more accurate. He thought it not robbery to be equal with God that is He Jesus. I clearly understand the Godhead in this time of my life because I go by scripture and not the wisdom of men.
Trinitarians are trained. Unitarians are not. You are taught Trinity in Trinitarian churches.
@@michaelwilcox8187 it’s more of an understanding of the natures of God.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Not a sort of philosophy. Basically if you remove the term “trinity” from the equation. You’ll still be left with Father, Son and Holy Spirit as it is explained by Jesus himself.
@@michaelwilcox8187 it's what the bible says. I belong to no church.. and can easily see the references to the Trinity. I bet you most atheists would agree.. as they would simply say they believe in no God, and have no qualms accurately assessing the bible.
exactly @Ripp3r Jack
we are not trained in winning arguments. we take our Book seriously and go by scripture and not by wisdom of men (like Benedick said).
god´s logic never fail
and he revealed himself to us as (1) father, (2) son and (3) holy spirit.
@@Media_Inc ok... then a simple question...
would you say that the right teaching leads to good (because closest to God) and wrong leads to evil (opposite).
and that we recognice them by there fruits?
Yes?
This is beyond the unitarian can see clearly that the verse says kiss the the son the is capitalized let's HE"(CAPITALIZED)
HIS (CAPITALIZED) so the vesrseis a dressing aDivine being
Jesus is #1!
Surah An-Nisa verse 24 says (Whatever you have enjoyed from them, then give them their wages as an obligation ۚ) for the pleasure of women ( Mutta ) in Shiaa and giving them their wages, from which the pleasure marriage began. Verse 34 is for beating a woman to obey her husband. Also in Sunni, they have ( Misyar Marriage ) past on the same surah Al Nissa verse 24, So now both Shiaa and Sunni practiced surah Al Nissa verse 24 for pleasure.
... you dont have to think about it just understand it ...
This original hadith of Aisha with her sister (Asmaa) practiced Adult breastfeeding for men, this Qur’anic verse that the goat ate from under Muhammad’s bed with the verse of stoning (the stoning of the adulterous woman) and the law of Moses that Muhammad transmitted to you and Islam is like an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
The Unitarian need to know the definition of church
Chris makes it up as he goes along he seems lost to be honest
Genesis 1 , In the beginning the SPIRIT of GOD hovered above the waters and said (with the WORD) ,let there be light
GOD is SPIRIT he must be holy , the SPIRIT of GOD speaks using the WORD by the WORD of GOD all things are created .
There is no verse that says there are many saviours especially in Isaiah God said he couldn't find any man worthy to be an intercessor and therefore had to send HIS OWN Arm to bring salvation
verses every christians must quote when you face somebody that dont believe you can pray to jesus: only quote the verses that are the most clear do not quote the ambiguous verses:
1) john 14:12-14 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
john 16:23 Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 24 Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
john 15: 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit-fruit that will last-and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17 This is my command: Love each other.
luke 24:50-53 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany, he lifted up his hands and blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven. 52 Then they worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. 53 And they stayed continually at the temple, praising God.
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jesus told his disciples where two or three gather in my name (jesus) i (jesus ) will be with them...
matthew 18:20 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
jesus told us he i be with us until the end of time, if jesus will be with us obviously you can pray to him: (read verse 20)
matthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Where did love come from the trinity where did language come from the trinity before the world or anything was created there was love language and unity inside the trinity only allah was allahlone
It’s like a debate who’s more idiotic than the other 🤣 that’s so embarrassing
What do you mean by that?
Its definitely better than Shia and sunni Muslims debate lol
i think bloodfire is just like me..his brain work with empty stomach..✌😚👍
When did Jesus say worship and pray to me??? He never did… then he just says John 5, like John 5:41… “I do not accept glory from humans”???
The closest you get is honor… but Romans 12:10 says honor one another, honor your mother and father, 1 Timothy 5:17 even says elders are worthy of double honor, honor does not equal praise…
Jesus preexisted, but he did not make himself known, he was messiah and son of God but not God… who cares, Melkezidech preexisted…
Angel of god argument here… not only does acts clarify the Angel of God was in the bush
Matthew 28:19??? Baptizing in the name of the father son and Holy Spirit proves God??? Where do I even start…
If Jesus had to be given power, how is he equal with God?
No where in Psalm does it say Jesus is God, even Matthew Henry said “in short, this: the son must undertake the office of an intercessor, and, upon that condition, he shall have the honour and power of a universal monarch”…
I have heard the many saviors thing, it’s Nehemiah 9:27 “thou gravest them saviors” and Obadiah 1:21 “And saviors shall come up to mount Zion”… but this is translational I guess… KJV is explicit in saying Saviors…
Men can be worshipped… who cares how they were worshipped… if you want to go there the act of worship was being complained about in Romans 1:25, because people were worshipping (latreuo) things other than God… Acts 27:23 is Paul worshiping angels (latreuo) worship doesn’t equal God… played out and tired argument…
🤣🤣🤣 sitting next to God in way means equal… do your homework, sorry… but come on… does that mean Psalm 110 means David is equal with God… and yes Psalm 110 is about David, just got one scholars name for you, Gordon Churchyard…
The word used for Philippians 2 is form… exactly like Mark 16:12… having form does not mean same, reference Mark 16:12, in that verse Jesus came in a different form… he came in a different form that was the same as his old one???
Jesus don’t know all things “time or hour” Jesus was tempted, Jesus died… FORM BOT NATURE… did the nature of God die???
No God didn’t show Jesus how to do anything… it was God that even allowed Jesus to do anything, it’s Gods words and Gods actions through him, allowed by God… but equals right…
IT DOESN’T SAY GOD GAVE HIM THE ABILITY???????? “For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.” “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.” “The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.” “No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” “For the works that the Father has given me to accomplish, the very works that I am doing, bear witness about me that the Father has sent me.”
I can’t… I’m done…
= Yeshua is YHVH Elohim =
► John 10:28
and I give to them everlasting life, and they may never perish and not anyone will be seizing them from My hand.
The Unitarian was wavering at times; let's hope he thinks about what he was told in this discussion and realizes the mistaken position he's in. Unitarians never were, are, or will ever be Christians.
Dumbest title ever. Perhaps I should stop being a paid subscriber. Telling a Unitarian to go to a mosque? Very smart....
@@johnno. Should Unitarian Christians convert to Islam?
The bishops of Nicaea correctly understood that "the Father" is the "NORMAL" almighty God (no one has ever seen or known him, Jn.17:24,25 ), "the Son" is a second divine Person, but with "the Holy Spirit" they made a major blunder when thinking He is a THIRD divine Person. That's not true, the "Holy Spirit" is EXACTLY THE FATHER, only this time in a PARTICULAR FORM: in the form of a spirit. He originates from the "normal Father" nobody ever knew (but the Son). The bishops could figure that out from the Jesus' statement that THE FATHER IS A SPIRIT. That statement is reliable because Jesus even makes a pun on it "those who worship Him must worship IN SPIRIT and truth." That statement, combined to the Jesus' statement regarding ONLY TWO POSSIBLE BLASPHEMIES against the Son and the "HOLY SPIRIT", were to hint that the latter is simply a name given by Jesus to the FATHER WHO IS A SPIRIT ! In short, Jesus has the "FATHER WHO IS A SPIRIT" and calls him sometimes "Father," sometimes "Spirit" (Holy) depending on circumstances, but those are just TWO NAMES to identify exactly the SAME ONE Father. You can find a confirmation: the Holy Spirit is in Jesus, but ONLY the Father is with Jesus "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me" (repeated many times in all different ways). Hence, the Holy Spirit with Jesus can only be THE FATHER: the ONLY ONE who is there with Him, there are NO MORE PERSONS!
"Father" and "Holy Spirit" are thus TWO EQUIVALENT TERMS to identify the same Person, so that when the former is used in an event, the latter is not used and vice versa. Thus, you can see that the Holy Spirit dealing with Mary's pregnancy is THE FATHER. Indeed - as a matter of logic - the Father of Jesus can be none other than.... THE FATHER! This is confirmed by the fact that the power of THE FATHER "the power of the Most High" is used and not the power of an alleged third divine person. The term "Father" is not used there because the term "Holy Spirit" is used.
This also means that at the baptism of Jesus there are only TWO divine Persons - FATHER and SON - because HE WHO SPEAKS IS THE HOLY SPIRIT! Also in this event the term "Father" is not used because the term "Holy Spirit" is used instead.
Well, it was very simple: Jesus states DOZENS OF TIMES in the gospels - in all various ways - that God is made (A) by the Father and (B) by the Son. PERIOD. Since Jesus in all those statements picks the term "Father," He never mentions the term "Holy Spirit". For example here the term "Father" is used and the term "Holy Spirit" is not used "As for that day and hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but only the Father." You can appreciate that - when even the ANGELS (!) are taken into account - no alleged third divine person is present there.
In short, Jesus NEVER says that a THIRD PERSON IS WITH HIM and NEVER states that God is a TRIUNE GOD.
The bishops of Nicaea should have simply accepted Jesus' words, rather than INVENTING a "Lord giver of life" that nobody has ever seen, or heard.
It's all well and good stating they made a blunder in your opinion, but it would also be worthwhile to consider that the both OT and NT reflect an individual personhood of the Holy Spirit. Scripture references the ability to specifically grieve AND blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. Obviously if both OT writers and Jesus himself believed He is exactly the Father then it would have been easier and clearer if He were referenced in that way.
@@Stilgar74
It had logically to be like that. The reason is that in the baptismal formula there is GOD (in his normal form). But NOBODY EVER SAW HIM, the world DID NOT KNOW HIM ! see Jn. 17:24:25. ONLY JESUS DID IT! This means He is NOT among us. ONLY HIS SPIRIT is here with us: the Holy Spirit. That Spirit comes from that God nobody ever knew. This is why God is present TWO times in the baptismal formula.
Further, that God - who is a spirit and is here among us - needs TWO names. Jesus has the Father who is a spirit. This means that the Father also needs a SECOND name as a Spirit, i.e., that Spirit - who is the Father - must also have his OWN name in order to distinguish Himself from other spirits!
Jesus mentions ONLY TWO possible blasphemies, you would logically expect them to be respectively directed to the Son and to the Father. In the first blasphemy the name "Son" appears, but in the other one the name "Father" is ABSENT, in its place you can find a name regarding a spirit: the "Holy Spirit". You can figure out that the name has been chosen by Jesus to identify that particular "Spirit" who is the Father. It's his "spirit name", Jesus had to give that Spirit a name, to call Him someway....
You can have further confirmation that the name "Holy Spirit" identifies the Father: the Holy Spirit is with Jesus, but you know from the gospels that the ONLY Person with Jesus is ALWAYS THE FATHER "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me." Hence, the Holy Spirit with Jesus can only be the Father, the ONLY PERSON THERE. In any event of the gospels the Father is either identified as "Father" (i.e. the name "Holy Spirit" is not used) or vice versa. This means that at Jesus' baptism the Father speaks and takes actions, Mary's pregnancy is also dealt with by the Father.
One of the biggest errors of the Qur’an is Surah ( Al-Muminoon verse 14 ) says (So We created the congealed blood from bones, then We covered the bones with flesh - meat ) Quran The stages of development of the fetus’s growth in the mother's womb are formed, the bones first, and then the meat, Science and doctors prove that the formation of the fetus begins with the formation of meat first, and then the bone, that's a big error in Quran, in the Qur’an During marriage and intercourse, if the man water comes fist during intercourse ejaculates before the woman, she will deliver ( boy) if the woman comes her ( water) first before the man, then she will give birth to a (girl) and that the woman’s water comes from (her rib) this's the big errors in Quran the (water of woman ) it's not an
(Eggs ) it is just for lubrication during sexual intercourse. another error in Quran in surah ( Al Ghashiya verse 20 ) says the earth is FLAT, NOT ROUND, Also in (Surat Al-Shams verse 6), the sunsets in the spring hot water and in the mud, of its protector and in the mud (Surat Al-Kahf 86), and the sky is 7 layers between each layer 500 years, Muhammad took it from the myths and legends of the ancient Jews and the Babylonian civilization and entered it in the Qur’an.
Psalm 2
New International Version
Psalm 2
1 Why do the nations conspire[a]
and the peoples plot(A) in vain?
2 The kings(B) of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the Lord and against his anointed,(C) saying,
3 “Let us break their chains(D)
and throw off their shackles.”(E)
4 The One enthroned(F) in heaven laughs;(G)
the Lord scoffs at them.
5 He rebukes them in his anger(H)
and terrifies them in his wrath,(I) saying,
6 “I have installed my king(J)
on Zion,(K) my holy mountain.(L)”
7 I will proclaim the Lord’s decree:
He said to me, “You are my son;(M)
today I have become your father.(N)
8 Ask me,
and I will make the nations(O) your inheritance,(P)
the ends of the earth(Q) your possession.
9 You will break them with a rod of iron[b];(R)
you will dash them to pieces(S) like pottery.(T)”
10 Therefore, you kings, be wise;(U)
be warned, you rulers(V) of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear(W)
and celebrate his rule(X) with trembling.(Y)
12 Kiss his son,(Z) or he will be angry
and your way will lead to your destruction,
for his wrath(AA) can flare up in a moment.
Blessed(AB) are all who take refuge(AC) in him.
Bloodfire 🔥🙏😎
Angels are created beings & were called Yahweh as they represented God case closed
@mysotiras 011 Did an Angel speak to Moses from the burning bush or did YAHWEH ?
@@MegaTRUTH007 God spoke to Moses from the burning Bush.. and Jesus says it was Him in that bush as the messenger of the Lord , who is God
@micah john Yehovah is the Malach of the covenant that will suddenly come to His temple.. He shall come.. lol you have no idea what you talking about.. even of the name of God was not there .. it says His temple.. who's temple?
@@repairerofthebreach777 , When did Jesus say he was in the bush ?
@@MegaTRUTH007 When He said before Abraham was born I Am showing He was the One speaking to Moses and not the Father... and before that He said Abraham didn't seek to kill Him like the pharisees did..
People need to read scripture for themselves and stop following false doctrines.
How can you get a triune creator when he says in scripture there's NO ONE but Him.
Trinitarian teachings are doctrines of devils😪
Come out of this false teaching.
Yahusha and Yahuah are one. Yahuah came in the flesh to save us....no fake jesus.
Isaiah 45:5
I am Yahuah, 👉🏿🔥and there is none else, there is no Aluah beside me:🔥👈🏿 I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isaiah 44
6 👉🏿🔥Thus saith Yahuah the King of Israel, and his redeemer Aluah of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no Aluah.
7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them.
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a Aluah beside me? yea, there is no Aluah; I know not any.🔥👈🏿
@mysotiras 011 so Yahuah was incorrect when he said there is no other mighty one except Him?
Have you read the scriptures posted🤔❗️❗️
You need to come out of that paganism.
Here's what you believe below
👉🏿🔥The trimurti collapses the three gods into a single form with three faces. Each god is in charge of one aspect of creation, with Brahma as creator, Vishnu as preserver, and Shiva as destroyer.🔥👈🏿
The trinity is not in the Bible so ain't you guys adding?? Where does it say 'Trinity'??
Where does it say omnicient? Where does it say omnipresent? Where does it say omnipotent? The Bible does not use any of these words but teaches that God is all these things, none the less. In the same way, the Bible teaches that God is triune.
@@jude3891 Your comparing two completely different things... There are many people who read the scripture and don't get trinity from it... So your saying the apostles had your Same mindset ... Don't you think the trinity would be strange doctrine to them??
@@jtru3h781 No I'm not. All are saying something about God without explicitly saying it. Any honest reading of the Bible, brings you to the conclusion that God is triune. The Bible makes a distinction between the persons of Father, Son, and Spirit. It assigns honors, attributes, names, and deeds that belong only to God to Father, Son, and Spirit. And it affirms that there is only one God. Hello Trinity.
@@jude3891 So Somebody who reads the Bible honestly and don't get the trinity out of it (because is doesn't say it) is not honest.. what did the first apostles believe, did they believe in the trinity doctrine because I never once heard them say believe in the trinity or say that God was triune ??? That is strange doctrine and adding. Who am I going to believe ... The teacher who teach there is One God Like the Bible says and can explain the Bible without using the word trinity( because it don't say it in there) ???
Or the person who explains it using trinity which don't make as much sense than the person who explains it without using the trinity doctrine???
@@jtru3h781 0if you read the Bible honestly, you will get the Trinity out of it.
Jesus is the Son of Lúcifer ( Satan ) the real name of the son Of the Creator is Yausha Son Of Yauh ( *God ). Don't let anyone deceive You !
Bloodfire babble
Bloodfire is a nightmare to abdools at speakers corner. Long live Bloodfire expose the evils in Islam☪️🕋👿
@@adamtom9661 well said Sir !!! .
muslims believe allah = 8 pebbles
@mysotiras 011 At obfuscating.