BRUTALLY RANKING BLACKPINK, Twice, Red Velvet, Dreamcatcher and Mamamoo in Different Categories
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All rankings are from worst to best btw
Also what did yall think of the new intro
Thank you for putting Dreamcatcher to spotlight. Not many kpop fans still know them. Also, Dreamcatcher will comeback this October. This just released their mystery code in their upcoming cb
Liked the intro. Entertaining video!
Might want to spend more time on spell-checking...or not, think criticisms are less biting when they come with typos. Might lessen fan-wars this way.
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As a Korean Insomnia, I fully agree with your opinion.
mamamoo have a better stage presence than blackpink in my opinion
I agree look at this video
czcams.com/users/shortsYEWF8dyHdUo?feature=share MAMAMOO can command the audience and it mean they have stage presence. I really like the way they perform. Even group or solo they know how to own the stage and how to steal the attention of audience.
Yes, agree
they do, they master 'stage technique' the most in here. but in term of group chemistry some member kinda get in the way with some member, blackpink tho they're not as good as mamamoo in term of stage technique. all the member enchance and compliment each other stage presence
Totally agree
that’s not even a thing to discuss, mamamoo always slays when it comes to stage presence
"Who needs variety when you have rock"
Dreamcatchers B-sides "Am I a joke to you?" xD
Ain’t gonna lie “Jazz Band”,”July 7th”, “Poison Love”, and “Whistle” are still my favorite non-rock tracks !
@@ruKUSS_.117 *Jazz Bar
@@raimukoyoasu234 yeah just read it. The word correct is weird lol
Black or White, Silent Night In the Frozen and Starlight are my favorite because i'm more into Electronic and RNB but rock is still why i fell for these girls. They became my favorite GG BECAUSE of their variety ❤
Jiu: *laughs in citypop*
DREAMCATCHER is such a all rounder group they have everything Vocals, Rap, Dance
Without contest, Dreamcatcher won all the categories. Dreamcatcher = 7 vocalists, 7 rappers, 7 dancers, 7 visual, 7 crackheads, 7 extras, 7 biases, 7 bias wreckers, 7 happiest Kpop idols = perfection. On top of that their company gives them so much professional & personal freedom unlike many other companies. In terms vocal only Mamamoo maybe able to match Dreamcatcher on some ballad song and I love Mamamoo.
If you want to be blown away by them, go watch their recent European concert festival in Barcelona here: Dreamcatcher at Primavera Sound 2022
czcams.com/video/VPmx-DwGnc8/video.html This concert maybe a very good indication on how popular they should be when (being the first kpop group invited to this biggest European music festival) in front of so many non kpop fans and at the end of it they got everyone rocking and enjoying so much to the point that they chanted Dreamcatcher's name for over 10-15 seconds.
It is really still a world greatest history why Dreamcatcher is not at least BTS or Blackpink famous today. Here is some of their achievement since debut.
- In 2017 Dreamcatcher (debut year) achieved:
1) First EP album 'Prequel,' reached top (#1) US iTunes K-Pop Top 100 Chart, debuted #5 on the Billboard World Albums Chart and #3 on Billboard's Best New K-Pop Acts.
2) Nominated for Melon Music Awards (New Artist of the Year) and Mnet Asian Music Awards (Best New Female Artist).
- In 2018 Dreamcatcher achieved:
3) First K-pop girl group to complete a tour of major European cities.
4) Second EP album 'Escape the Era,' reached #1 Hanteo's album chart, #1 China's Yinyuetai, #3 on Gaon reached and debuted #7 Billboard World Albums Chart.
5) Latin American tour in South America.
6) Won the Keum Yeong Star Awards (Promising Idol).
7) Nominated for Korean Brand of the Year (Female Idol of the Year).
- In 2019 Dreamcatcher achieved:
8) Second European tour and 1st US tour.
- In 2020 Dreamcatcher achieved:
9) 5th EP album, 'Dystopia: Lose Myself,' #3 best selling album on Hanteo among girl groups / female soloists for August 2020, beating group or soloist such as Red Velvet (Monster), Blackpink (How You Like That, and Kill This Love), Twice (More & More), GFriend (Song of the Sirens), Hwasa (Maria), Jennie (Solo), April (Hello Sumer), Rocket Punch (Blue Punch) and just behind Itzy (Not Shy) and (G)I-DLE (Dumdi Dumdi) at #3.
10) Won the Ten Asia Global Ten Ten Awards (Best Artist).
11) Nominated for Soribada Best K-Music Awards (Popularity Award).
- In 2021 Dreamcatcher achieved:
12) Sixth EP Album 'Dystopia: Road to Utopia,' reached top (#1) iTunes Worldwidie Album chart in 16 countries, #2 in Netherland, and top 10 in 35 countries
13) Dami & Siyeon's OST for the drama Black Hole debuted #1 K-OST's chart
14) Nominated for Brand Customer Loyalty Awards (Hot Trend Female Idol Group) and Asia Artists Awards (Female Idol Group Popularity).
- In 2022 Dreamcatcher achieved:
15) First & second music show win with Maison on MBC M's Show Champion and SBS MTV's The Show respectively.
16) First K-Pop group/artist invited to Primavera European Music Festival in 2022
17) Second US tour
18) Won the K Global Heart Dream Awards (Best Music Video).
공감합니다😍
As a Korean Insomnia, I fully agree with your opinion.
Dreamcatcher is so underrated but I’m so so glad that they were put up against these amazing and highly successful groups. They have great potential and it shows how original their content and the quality of it is.
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I'll just say this , DREAMCATCHER are the real true queens of k-pop in all categories a 1,000% .
@@YCHTT you forgot to add 19 , as of today JIU is sitting back on top for the second time this year as SOUTH KOERA most beautiful woman .
@@garylovesmusic1 Really? Source? Don't get me wrong, I always found JiU so freaking beautiful, cool, nature & cute all the time. She was so close to being my bias but I gave up of looking for a bias in this legendary group. First Kpop group I can't find a bias while with every group I can easily find one, that tells you something about Dreamcatcher really. They all hit you differently every time. People are just sleeping on them being silly.
@@YCHTT was all over sites yesterday, Twitter, Facebook, twitch, Instagram, tic-toc and many news outlets. Jiu has been crown 2 times this year. As for bias I don't have any here as their all one of a kind. Especially live in concert on the US tour with the No Dot challenge 😁⭐🤟👍
Dreamcatcher discography is really 🔥, they are from smaller agency from the other 4 but their hardwork making them deserved to stand together and get compared to group from big agency.
They are underrated and underappreciated just because they are from small agency even though their music + song + mv are better than the other.
I like all these groups but Dreamcatcher is the only one without a song I dislike
@@2172chris
I'm pretty certain that Dreamcatcher is incapable of making a bad song.
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Mamamoo was also from a small agency??
@@puffhuffle_ and these two groups (along with twice) happen to be the most involved in their music 👀
Mamamoo = vocals, rap, visual, stace presence , discography Queens of queens 😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i love all group but dreamcatcher are the love of my life
In my humble opinion I believe Mamamoo is #1 in stage presence. They know how to captivate and keep an audiences attention no matter what. They can even really get more senior artists to get up, dance and sing. They might not have the most technical choreography but they know how to use the stage, their vocals, their facial expressions, their movements, their gaze, etc to turn any performance into a mini Mamamoo concert.
Looking forward to more reactions. It's good reading others opinions and point of views.
And they use their dorkyness as well 😌😌😌
@@ItsM00N yes!!! They are not afraid to look silly.
They're authentic and doesn't give a flying f about haters now that's why I call them the unbothered queens
As an Insomnia, I can get behind that but it’s gonna be my DREAMCATCHER 😅
@@ruKUSS_.117I'll need to check Dreamcatcher as I've heard a lot of good things about them😊 Right now my favorite is Mamamoo but always looking for talented female groups😊
When you go to a dreamcatcher concert you'll know they have a lot of stage presence, the way the crowd chants, their playfulness on stages and the way they interact with fans is perfect, they hit different. They definitely excel in all aspects!!!
Mamamoo is definitely 1st for vocals and stage presence. It's no contest and facts
I'm proud to be a called a Moomoo. No regrets. And there's nothing wrong with their group name called MAMAMOO. You just don't know the behind story duhh🙄
It's very subjective, if they don't like it's fine. Let's just be super proud to call ourselves moomoos together, cause honestly I couldn't think about a cooler or cuter name than this! :)
@@lia_anh I'd rather be a MooMoo than a Blink any day of the week
This!!! Bc I was genuinely confused as to how you’re going to clown on Mamamoo’s name and our fandom name. I’m not throwing shade but our names are way more unique than his faves. Always proud of being an imoomoo!
I do like Dreamcatcher pre-2020 sound and music their rock and metal it's what kept me intrigued of the girls Although Tree of Language albim 2020 era Scream TT is such a masterpiece that make Dreamcatcher versatile in any genre.
Tree of language truly has no skips, if DC was from a big company that album would have surely won album of the year
Mamamoo is ranked 2nd for vocal 😂 seriously. Tasteless human. There is no kpop girl group that has better vocals rather than mamamoo. Do proper research, watch their live performances and a cappella dude 😂.
Dude I’m a moomoo too but you need to chill, it’s opinionated and their opinion is fine
Imo, dreamcather it's like home, you can stan the other, but wherever you go, you will always back to home🥲
Especially the lighstick of dreamcatcher, bro i was never interested to lightstick or the merch, but when i saw dreamcather lightstick and robe, im just speechless 😳
Agree on this. From album, merch, lightstick, just name it, its all so amazingly well made and pretty. My first ever on physical thing on Kpop is from Dreamcatcher. 🤟🏻 And yeah, Dreamcatcher is home. I never feel so close to idols in my life. Feel appreciated. Its so warm.
totally agreed. its the dominance of DC multipurpose light stick lol.
Ikr...I never even bothered to know what those things were until i found Dreamcatcher
And it comes in a COFFIN!!
Dreamcatcher got literally everything, it’s really impressive
Dreamcatcher are EXTREMELY underrated and they are the true kpop queens imo
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RV ahead of Mamamoo in vocals, BP ahead of Mamamoo in rapping and stage presence? It's clear you're not being objective and it shows by placing BP as #1 in the final rankings.
I actually disagree with you
I would place bp ahead of mamamoo for rapping
Biased opinions!
I think mamamoo definitely has the better vocal line overall esp since they ALL can harmonize and belt at the same time. but overally this ranking was pretty solid and I feel like it was fair. Oh, and most "moomoos" on twitter call ourselves moos or cows because we DO feel kind of silly calling ourselves moomoos lmao. Still love the name though :)
Ok, you said that Mamamoo is not your taste. So this ranking is only based on your personal opinion about your taste, not a brutally ranking from worst to best.
I mean... That's pretty much it. It's a ranking so of course that it's going to be biased, if I were to do this list than I'd shamelessly put Mamamoo on top for almost everything. Honestly if you were to try to objectively rank these group's concepts, discography than we'd need extensive research or something. Stuff like vocals, rap, and dance can be discussed more objectively, but as soon as you talk about group name, fandom name, discography then it's super subjective.
@@lia_anh Ok, but judging something lower because it's not his taste means his assessment is very subjective. Whoever it is, not just a Mamamoo, if the judgment is based on disliking a group, then the judgment is very unfair.
@@YCHTT :), pls i don't wanna fight with DC stand ok?
Im stand Mamamoo, 4 vocalist, 4 Soloist, 4 rapper, 4 dancer. All member have Solo project
And yeah DC good too, but im stand Mamamoo. Thank you
@@dontknowyou1880 What makes you think I don't like Mamamoo? In fact Solar is my bias and I have been listening to Kpop since 2012. And I can't find any group as great as DC. Before that I was even a Mamamoo stand.
@@dontknowyou1880 In terms of Mamamoo being 4 rappers. They haven't done enough of it to convince me (because their company seems to make Moonbyul as the solo rapper for some reason). But I know Solar MC Duk is the bomb (I love it), and she has proved it a few times ever since 1cm, and even recent single and duel video on her Solarsido channel with Moonbyul. And Solar is the real all rounder of the group. Wheein just pissed me off changing to a different label, kind of a betrayal of the group tbh.
Dreamcatcher with 3 good rappers dami gahyeon sua vocal all in point stage presence siyeon and gahyeon visual jiu sua
stage presence and visuals is also all of them! not just the members you listed.
@@aeongies i think i mentioned them all so and if i said who have the best stage presence on them that not mean the rest are weak the visual i talk about kbs but all the 7 are beautiful and if i talk about talent all the 7 membres are multi talented i never denied that
@@dcqueens2999 ah okay i misunderstood what you meant because you went from being specific with them having 3 good rappers to only listing 2 members for stage presence and 2 members for visuals. but now i get that you just meant all but especially those members.
Sorry in rap it's only dami and might be gahyeon.sua is good but if you included her then you should include siyeon also her rap is also very good.
Mamamoo is thee best hands down, but DC has a good piece of heart.
As a DC fan, I am just happy for them to be just included in this super groups list
why wouldnt they be??
@@thekpopcrow true ☺️
Same
BP stage presence better then Mamamoo, I don't think so. They had one good performance. While MMM had how many and still counting, including as soloist. Yeah that 100% disagree on.....😒
Okay .....
Dreamcatcher always number 1 in my heart. 👍
I'm sorry, but Moonbyul and Dami can eat Jennie and Lisa up any day of the week. Even Gahyeon and SuA have more flow and interesting voices than JenLisa.,
they covered Kill this love and I enjoyed dreamcatcher rap verses better. They had more umf.
Don't get me wrong I like Lisa & Jennie & they are good at what they are doing. But Moonbyul & Dami rap way better. They aren't trying to be like the West. They are themselves. Plus all 7 DC members have & can rap. Tell me one group that can do that?
Definitely not but you can have your opinion...
I strongly disagree. Jennie and Lisa are trained rappers. Technically. The only downside JenLisa have is they only know a single style of rapping. Dami on other hand, had done many kinds of rap styles and she keeps on evolving.
WAIT MAMAMOO IS 2nd FOR VOCALS? omg please open your ears 😭
i say that dreamcatcher they have verry good vocals,dance, rap , visuals ,stage presence and unique concept🖤❤
NO WAYYYY YOU PUT TWICE AND MAMAMOO LOWER THAN BP IN TERMS OF DISCOGRAPHY NO WAYYYYYYY
i did indeed. and its the truth...
kinda agree. BP mostly just do hiphop and EDM while the other groups (stated here) has wider musical spectrum.
i thinks Bp discography is so generic
I've been a kpop fan since from bigbang, 2ne1 and snsd. But ive never felt love for a kpop grp like this. Dreamcatcher is only group i that i stan 😬🤔🥰
Dreamcatcher albums is the best in kpop
When i say stan. I meant voting, buying albums, streaming and really updated with news of the group.
You should leave MAMAMOO alone. They don't need this stupid rankings lol. Mamamoo doesn't even have a fixed concept which means they can do whatever the hell they want. ✨Versatility at it's finest✨ And why did you put MAMAMOO 2nd on Vocals and RedVelvet 1st? RV didn't even beat MAMAMOO on immortal songs (a singing competition by the way🙄) MAMAMOO won that show 3 times. That alone proves that these rankings are NOT OBJECTIVE at all. You should probably do some extensive research before making this video lmao 🤣
In terms of Vocal top 2 = Dreamcatcher & Mamamoo no doubt. One has to evaluate that with real live vocal multiple times to decide that. And I never see DC & Mamamoo failed live!
I don’t understant this kind of disrespectfull..while we have alot receipt to proved😂haters keep bugging..dammm
As a whole Mamamoo has the better vocals than Red Velvet but Wendy tops all
no wayyyy you put dreamcatcher and mamamoo lower than bp in rap and stage presence LMAOOOOO no wayyyyyy
LOL exactly when all 7 members can rap & proven with many songs + covers. I have never come across of any group that all the members (and even 7 of them) can do it like DC could!
i did indeed. and its the truth...
@@thekpopcrow nahhhh that bulls***😅
@@thekpopcrow "the truth" lmao grow up, this is only your biased opinion because you don't like them.
@@aspannas i actually stan every group on this list...
Dreamcatcher means talent
If ever i would buy a kpop merch, it would be Dreamcatcher 🤣
Twice: queens of visual and cute concept
Mamamoo: queens of vocals and concept variety
Dreamcatcher: queens of dance and rock
Blackpink: queens of stage presence and rap
Red Velvet: queens of vocals and visual
Respect for putting DC in your list with talented female groups
-an insomnia
Might have to check out RV while waiting for DC mini album 😅
For Me being honest Mamamoo is the best among these groups in stage presence, rap and vocal💚
It's a personal ranking so I guess is fine. If this was supposed to be an objective ranking then we're missing a lot of information.
Just wanted to start by saying that all groups are great in their own ways and no hate on any of them. I hope people can put their biases/opinions from fan war aside and listen to some Mamamoo performances. Talent and good music shouldn't be ignored or even hated just because of toxic fans on social media (not even considering the fact that most of these groups are friends since rookie years or at least friendly acquaintances). This goes to all groups/artists. Music is Music, a form of expression and art, not competition. (btw Mamamoo is coming back on the 11th!!)
Mamamoo in second place for vocal tells me that you don't watch their live performances. We all know Seulgi is good and Wendy is a vocal queen, but as a group no one can beat Mamamoo in terms of vocals.
I guess stage presence can be subjective, but come on! No one does it like Mamamoo with just a mic (they can sing ballads without any dance moves and make audiences feel the emotions/sing along/have goosebumps). A big part of hip hop is stage presence so hip-hop groups/artists should have good stage presence (imagine a rapper not having stage presence), but it's a lot harder for groups/artists specialized in other genre to do the same or better (and thus super impressive when they do).
Mamamoo to me is such a good name since they are a vocal group and their intro is basically Acapella (can you imagine blackblack blackblack pink or dreamdream dreamdream catcher lolll). AND tell me moo-bong is not iconic?! Back in the days moomoos bring actual radishes as light stick (really does show how far Mamamoo has come, literally from the bottom to the top) and it's a memory that we cherish.
You mentioned that you don't like Mamamoo's music, but Mamamoo has at least one song for almost every music style, so everyone can find something that they like (literally just tell me what you can't find and I'll find it for you ahh).
Ehhmm. If you listen to Dreamcatcher b-sides, you can see how variety works and how they slay all.
For visual JiU is top-tier with Yooh and Siyeon and for stage presence Siyeon is smth else. But overall all is really good, imo.
And for final ranking Blackpink which introduce me to K-pop but Dreamcatcher makes me stay. So top is Dreamcatcher for me.
I know they have variety I was making a joke
all of dc are top-tier when it comes to visuals and stage presence not just the members u listed
Just Mamamoo 👑👑👑👑
Dreamcatcher for me covers every single basis you could ever ask for in a group and they're discography is the most vast I've found anywhere in the world for a group I fucking love them so much and I'm mad I didn't find them before the scream era
All members of Dreamcatcher are real live vocal, rap and dance queens ! 👍
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imagine... just imagine.... ranking high/top in almost all categories just to be low on final ranking lmao.. DREAMCATCHER ...idk whats the basis of making video..
Mamamoo=queens👑👑
Definitivamente DREAMCATCHER son mis favoritas!! love them!!
l Love you Hwasa mamamoo Queen
I like mamamoo's group name 'mamamoo' ♥️ I think it suits them n it's the reason why they have the best greeting in kpop industry that is I say mama mama mooo...
Stage presence should be Mamamoo I’ve never seen them not give their all even if they have back to back to back schedules
Mamamoo vocal queens
as an insomnia, i'd say dreamcatchers name is probably the worst thing thats happened to them bc imagine your only scandal being ur group name- like imagine thats the reason ppl dont wanna stan u😭
I know what u're saying I feel u there. But I did a lot of research & found out that the natives in that culture actually don't have a problem with dreamcatcher using this name at least most of them. Since DC started to get more recognition ( I believe since piri era) In Twitter & Instagram fans from other fandoms started to create a disaster out of nothing. I'm not saying there not people out there who have a problem with DC using this name but they're not as many as it seems like in social media....
@@nafishenajafian3047 idk .. i think more people just mad for a reason, but majority of the people that use the culture, not making a big fuss, i bet they will do something if we talk about majority of native vocal and disagree with that. But yeah, nothing here ... Dreamcatcher is nice, if they don't wanna stan because of the name, they don't need to be bother doing so, dreamcatcher is all about the shit that they bring aka content.
@@wilchan9931 believe me if they truly had a problem with the name they wouldn't have wait til DC made a name out there to disagree with it. But I agree with u there are thousands of people out there who respect DC for their concept & genre =)))
WHAT? what are you talking about? Dreamcatcher group name is cool af & so unique like everything they do. Or are you one of those snowflake that will turn everything into a race or racism thing? Get a life
Using the word "Dreamcathcher" is not "offensive" and it is not illegal the word is and english not Native American language. Selling of the artifact or claiming that it is "originally" done by a Native American when it is not is illegal and offensive. The artifact and original name are protected under American Law, "Dreamcathcher" the word is not a Native language but an English therefore is not owned and is free to be use under a law
The fact BlackPink is 1st in Discography, would they even Qualify for such a thing, at least put last where belong, Discography is supposed to be good amount of content
I accept your video and your reasoning but it just doesn't feel enough, BlackPink lacks in 10× more ways Other girl groups don't
I ranked Blackpink 3rd in discography?!
Jazz is not for everyone; it is those who have the soul of musicians.
Check Dreamcatcher's "Jazz Bar" b-side
Loads of mamamoos old music is jazzy, you should check it out
Although BP make me start to listen kpop, Dreamcatcher is my ult for ever and ever, you cant be more unique then them period.
@GAYATRI SAMUDRA i know them, but i still dont think anyone is more unique than dreamcatcher
@@ciberoyuncu7459 baby metal
@GAYATRI SAMUDRA mamamoo their voices are very good especially solar but when performing at a festival I think dreamcatcher is better because it can make some people do mospit, something that always appears in metal music crowds.
FOR ME, MAMAMOO IS THE BEST !!!
Title should be
"Tell me you are a blink
Without telling me you are a blink"
Im actually a Blackjack😂
REAAAL🤣🤣🤣
Here's my opinions! We share similarities and differences naturally
*Group name*
1. Redvelvet (I also love the classy vibes)
2. Twice
3. Blackpink
4. Dreamcatcher
5. Mamamoo
*Concept*
1. Dreamcatcher (I love the lore)
2. RedVelvet
3. Twice Mamamoo (I am unable to choose)
4. Blackpink
*Visuals*
i am unable to choose, I think all groups members are all insanely beautiful
*Dance*
1. Dreamcatcher (they leave me breathing hard lol)
2. Twice
3. Mamamoo
4. RedVelvet
5. Blackpink
*Vocals*
1. Mamamoo
2. RedVelvet
3. Twice
4. Dreamcatcher
5. Blackpink (it's hard because most of BP new music is rap oriented)
*Rap*
1. Blackpink (if they could compose their own raps, Kpop fandom would be left in shock)
2. Mamamoo
3. Dreamcatcher
4. Twice
5. RedVelvet
*Stage presence*
1. Mamamoo
2. Dreamcatcher
3. Blackpink
4. Twice (they are an interesting group, some members stand out a lot more then others but it works)
5. RedVelvet
*Debut*
1. Blackpink (Two debut songs is a big yes for me except now they barely release music, no thanks to yg)
2. Dreamcatcher (I'm a sucker for rock)
3. Twice + RedVelvet
4. Mamamoo (iconic but unfortunately didn't age well for me personally)
*Fandom name*
1. Dreamcatcher (In Somnia means in dream in Latin, cool asf)
2. RedVelvet
3. Twice
4. Blackpink
5. Mamamoo
*Discography*
1. Red Velvet
2. Dreamcatcher (They only ranked above Twice because of their discography uses more genres while Twice tends to stick to pop sub genres and all DC members have solos.)
3. Twice (Their language ability is what sets them apart)
4. Mamamoo (absolutely stunning discography, the variety and solos compliment the members and their image)
5. Blackpink (Their discography is mostly all pop sub genres which is solid. They have language diversity[similar to all the other groups] but tend to not produce great Japanese versions which is a bummer for JP fans. Almost all members have great solos.)
*My final results*
(all groups get extra point for visuals)
Dreamcatcher - 4
Blackpink - 3
RedVelvet - 3
Mamamoo - 3
Twice - 0 [although 0 first place, consistently in my top 3 proving they don't lack IMO]
I liked this ranking except the vocal. But pretty good. It's exactly as I thought.
@@o.s.p3921 Completely valid and definitely lines up with my personal skills. I didn't rank by technique, I ranked by my personal preferences from their music (as a non-vocalist.)
How can you be Dami's slave but ranked DC so low?????
Without contest, Dreamcatcher won all the categories. Dreamcatcher = 7 vocalists, 7 rappers, 7 dancers, 7 visual, 7 crackheads, 7 extras, 7 biases, 7 bias wreckers, 7 happiest Kpop idols = perfection. On top of that their company gives them so much professional & personal freedom unlike many other companies. In terms vocal only Mamamoo maybe able to match Dreamcatcher on some ballad song and I love Mamamoo.
If you want to be blown away by them, go watch their recent European concert festival in Barcelona here: Dreamcatcher at Primavera Sound 2022
czcams.com/video/VPmx-DwGnc8/video.html This concert maybe a very good indication on how popular they should be when (being the first kpop group invited to this biggest European music festival) in front of so many non kpop fans and at the end of it they got everyone rocking and enjoying so much to the point that they chanted Dreamcatcher's name for over 10-15 seconds.
It is really still a world greatest history why Dreamcatcher is not at least BTS or Blackpink famous today. Here is some of their achievement since debut.
- In 2017 Dreamcatcher (debut year) achieved:
1) First EP album 'Prequel,' reached top (#1) US iTunes K-Pop Top 100 Chart, debuted #5 on the Billboard World Albums Chart and #3 on Billboard's Best New K-Pop Acts.
2) Nominated for Melon Music Awards (New Artist of the Year) and Mnet Asian Music Awards (Best New Female Artist).
- In 2018 Dreamcatcher achieved:
3) First K-pop girl group to complete a tour of major European cities.
4) Second EP album 'Escape the Era,' reached #1 Hanteo's album chart, #1 China's Yinyuetai, #3 on Gaon reached and debuted #7 Billboard World Albums Chart.
5) Latin American tour in South America.
6) Won the Keum Yeong Star Awards (Promising Idol).
7) Nominated for Korean Brand of the Year (Female Idol of the Year).
- In 2019 Dreamcatcher achieved:
8) Second European tour and 1st US tour.
- In 2020 Dreamcatcher achieved:
9) 5th EP album, 'Dystopia: Lose Myself,' #3 best selling album on Hanteo among girl groups / female soloists for August 2020, beating group or soloist such as Red Velvet (Monster), Blackpink (How You Like That, and Kill This Love), Twice (More & More), GFriend (Song of the Sirens), Hwasa (Maria), Jennie (Solo), April (Hello Sumer), Rocket Punch (Blue Punch) and just behind Itzy (Not Shy) and (G)I-DLE (Dumdi Dumdi) at #3.
10) Won the Ten Asia Global Ten Ten Awards (Best Artist).
11) Nominated for Soribada Best K-Music Awards (Popularity Award).
- In 2021 Dreamcatcher achieved:
12) Sixth EP Album 'Dystopia: Road to Utopia,' reached top (#1) iTunes Worldwidie Album chart in 16 countries, #2 in Netherland, and top 10 in 35 countries
13) Dami & Siyeon's OST for the drama Black Hole debuted #1 K-OST's chart
14) Nominated for Brand Customer Loyalty Awards (Hot Trend Female Idol Group) and Asia Artists Awards (Female Idol Group Popularity).
- In 2022 Dreamcatcher achieved:
15) First & second music show win with Maison on MBC M's Show Champion and SBS MTV's The Show respectively.
16) First K-Pop group/artist invited to Primavera European Music Festival in 2022
17) Second US tour
18) Won the K Global Heart Dream Awards (Best Music Video).
You even started group name Dreamcatcher as #4 to begin with when they should be easily #1 LOL.... How is RedV or Twice should even be top 2 just for the group name? They should be at the bottom 2
@@YCHTT please just stop commenting, you’re setting up Dreamcatcher.
I stan most of the girl groups you mentioned but what the hell! Ever since I found Dreamcatcher I can't seem to look at the other groups anymore 😵
First of all, no fan wars.
Im a multistan since SNSD era and I listen to mostly to girlgroup. But since I discover Dreamcatcher early last year, bruh, 90% of their discography is bops. And I like and listen to all 5 groups in this video and I can agree on most part except the vocals which belongs to Mamamoo imo, period.
Im gonna have to disagree with you. Wendy alone is better than everyone else in the vocal ranking. And all of the red velvet members can support and have nice tones and techniques.
@@thekpopcrow hahaha alright. Diff people diff opinion 🤟🏻
@@thekpopcrow depending on individual taste , Wendy is very good but not my taste.
As someone who doesn't know much about music, the music I've listened to since I was little is rock/metal so a unique sound is the kind of sound I like
@@lalalablablabla147 Hello. this is my opinion. But I always felt like Mamamoo's vocals are kinda generic when it comes to korean music. Their style and tone when singing is the most common thing I've heard. Yes, technically they are very very good but I can't find any uniquely interesting in their voices. Maybe that's the reason I can't get into Mamamoo although I know that they are very good. While Wendy, I don't even have to say it, she has a wide variety of vocal tones and technique. That's why every song you hear from when her always felt different.
@@jiedragonhub yes hwasa tone and vocal so generic that sk try find same voice but failed, solar vocal so generic that she debut as main character in musical, wheein voice so generic that sk decided call her ost queen, moonbyul lower tone so generic and her voice so generic that she just had position main vocal as trainee and all her vocal teachers was shocked she became a rapper
you clearly never heard song from them as group or as solo(shoking how they all 4 have successful solo career in sk while being generic),stop lying
Maybe it was the song selection but for the Choreo section Dreamcatcher was just had a completely different energy.
Blackpink introduced me to kpop and I've been a proud MooMoo for three years now. But this April, I discovered Dreamcatcher and haven't been the same since lol this video is pretty accurate in my opinion! Love this.
Good for you... Dc 4-eva💪
DREAMCATCHER!!!🤍🤍🤍🤍🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷
I was blink before but nowadays I'm big fan of dreamcacher,they are the best
Mamamoo queens
Dreamcatcher rock😁
Mamamoo❤
How can this be considered “brutally honest ranking” when it’s heaving biased?? 😅
Bc its the truth, if ur mad idk what to tell you😂🤣
Dreamcatcher💘💘💘
One thing that I have come to see a lot in kpop is that many think being the most popular equals to being the best.
Yes, I know it happens in music from other places but I've seen it a lot in kpop.
Saying Blackpink has better stage presence than Dreamcatcher and Mamamoo is reaching 💀 sorry but BP is atleast at 3rd 🤷🏽♀️
youve clearly never seen a concert video of bp
True, Dreamcatcher stage presence is more better than bp. They always energetic even have hard choreo. Their expressions also on point
Rap mamamoo will always be better because moonbyul is a real rapper.
Blackpink don't write their own raps which will automatically disqualify them since rap literally means rhythm and POETRY, with Blackpink the poetry is nowhere to be seen.
the moment you bring up writing raps is the moment ur argument becomes invalid. it doesn't matter if moonbyul writes her raps bc jennie has better technique.
facts Moonstar monster rap💚
@@thekpopcrow Do you literally not know what rap is???
Read up and educate yourself please.
Not to mention Jennie doesn't even have better technique, you can't credit her flow or lyrics to her either, all she does is talk with an attitude to the rhythm she was given.
Lisa is also better at rapping than Jennie if we want to go there, even though I don't consider either of them rappers.
She at least has some variety and is able to do more complicated flows, I think that's thanks to her dancing which has given her a better sense of rhythm.
Jennie's rap is usually very flat, her strength in her rap is attitude and projection, her voice sounds powerful but that's kinda it.
I like calling myself moomoo, and it's cute
All the groups in the list are very good :D But since I'm an insomnia, I would always be biased towards DC. I just wish all the groups success at what they do as we know they are all very talented and hard working.
Mamamoo real voices. Vocal Kpop woman group. 🫰🏻🤍💚
Disagree on Mamamoo being second for vocals, I think they should be first. They are a literal powerhouse.
Also disagree on Dreamcatcher, their discography gets better each year. Also, the line distribution is SO fair and every member gets to shine in the most recent comebacks.
For the visuals: let's just all agree that they are all really beautiful, talented people!
Mamamoo is number one.
Stage presence
Vocals
Dance
Expression
Visual unique
Dreamcatcher will comeback at October
Ik i cant waittt
Dreamcatcher being first & mid through the whole ranking and never last but you put them 2nd last in final ranking , the math ain’t mathing
EXACTLY
Placing TWICE as last in discography shows 2 things, you haven't really listened to their music and that you are completely ignoring music critics who place their albums as best.
Mamamoo obviously have better stage presence than Blackpink like Hwasa alone is enough
Jiu is the visual of DREAMCATCHER bruh
no one said she wasn’t ??
For me final ranking is
Mamamoo
Twice
Dreamcatcher
Blackpink
Red velvet (I’m only a new reveluv)
TWICE AND DREAMCATCHER ALL THE WAY!
no way blackpink is above dreamcatcher in stage presence
So you think that naming a group with two colors is better than mamamoo, which at least has a meaning? Same for fandom name :/ And for me bp have no stage presence, like they are so forgettable :,) I understand your point of view, but you can’t say that bp has a better discography than twice and mamamoo… 🥲 I know this isn’t objective, but what a weird ranking 🤨
'Name another group that has done a jazz concept.'
Dreamcatcher...
honestly mamamoo is the best in vocals and stage presence, that's just facts
in rap arguably the best but I get that not everyone might think that
moonbyul even tho she's that good and also the lost credited female idol is the only one in the group (I mean others can rap but do it rarely and they are more vocal focused) when others have multiple rappers so it depends on how u evaluate it and if u consider the number of rappers too then I understand
also for me their debut song is one of the best debuts ever but again it's subjective, same with discography, imo it's very good
Red Velvet : i will never understand how they manage to do every concept under the sun and slay every time 😂
Couldnt agree more
what are the names of the songs in this minutes?: 1:48 2:08 4:33
Starry Night - Mamamoo
Odd Eye - Dreamcatcher
Décalcomanie - Mamamoo
Dreamcatcher fandom name is Insomnia because you couldn't sleep for their talent !!!
To all the people who's complaining because their fav groups got lower rank, you guys need to understand that this is just the owner's personal opinion and preference. There's no need to get so sensitive. 🤷🏻♀️
Ability to do complicated harmonies and turn covers into their own, that's what made Mamamoo on top. Vocals and stage presence are just icing on the cake. On top of that they can a slay all genres. Fullstop.
Visuals Red Velvet
Dance Twice
Rap Mamamoo
Stage presence- I do not agree with that Red Velvet has the worst presence, they're fantastic and serve every concept perfectly. Just because they're not making weird faces and winking all the time doesn't make them bad. I would give bottom spot to twice cause only 3 of them actually try lol, then blackpink, and then RV, and MM and DC are tied.
Fandom - all of them are good, personally I think Luvvie is really cute, but Insomnia is definitely the best
Songs - RV for sure, one of the best discographies in kpop. DC also has amazing songs though
Overall - (bottom to top) blackpink, mamamoo, twice, dreamcatcher, red velvet
For vocals, if it's about overall vocals, Mamamoo would be better than Red Velvet ( because Yeri and Irene are non vocalists who cannot support and perhaps may bring down the vocal ability for the group overalll ) but if we're talking about the vocal line specifically then Red Velvet would be better. Because Wendy is the strongest vocalist out of the vocalists in these two groups. For stage presence I certainly think that Mamamoo or Dreamcatcher deserve to be first especially if we're looking at the group's stage presence and not the individual stage presence because group chemistry is very important in order to enhance the whole group's stage presence. Mamamoo members all have great charisma and give their 100% on all of their stages thus they sing live all the time so that's extra points. Same for Dreamcatcher who have great group chemistry and look so cool while performing together, their sensual attitudes really allow them to complement each other on stage.
All these 5 groups and some other groups are queens but at different times. Like for me currently dreamcatcher are the queens. Rest of them were queens at different times. Maybe next year someone else will be queens.
Im giving you no offense I completely respect your opinion and their pretty reasonable but here is my final ranking:
5.Blackpink(Not my taste of music and they take way to long for a comeback but the members are good)
4.Twice(Not big fan of cute concept but Jihyo has one of the best vocals in my opinion)
3.Mamamoo(I like them some of their songs a really good and some of them a re not but I say they are a 50/50)
2.Red velvet(one of my fav groups their wendy and seulgi's vocals are amazing)
1.Dreamcatcher(Im a full time insomnia Im obsessed with them they all have breathtaking songs and the members have great talent so here is the winner in my opinion)
LOL the reason for ranking Mamamoo second to last in debut song "I don't like jazz" simple and to the point. Very subjective video, got it.