Lyon, France - Barcelona, Spain by an AVE international high speed train operated by Renfe
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- From Lyon Part Dieu railway station, the main railway station in Lyon, France to Barcelona Sants, the main railway station of Barcelona, Spain via Montpellier, Narbonne Perpignan & Girona on board of an international AVE high speed train operated by the Spanish national railway company Renfe.
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00:00 Introduction trip report Lyon, France - Barcelona, Spain by Renfe AVE high speed train
00:45 Lyon Part Dieu railway station (France)
08:10 Renfe AVE train from Lyon, France to Barcelona, Spain
17:12 Views from the train between Lyon, France & Barcelona, Spain
18:41 Round up
19:27 Environmental impact train, car & plane on the route Lyon, France - Barcelona, Spain
21:38 End of this trip report
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Lovely video, subscribed. Sorry for saying this at every video
Thank you 😊
Hello just found your Channel and liked what i saw so will be watching more ,oh and i've subscribed😂 this is a journey i've done a few years ago but from valence tgv my home town,i've also been looking at going down to Barcelona flying end of august but by the time i get to Lyon airport check in etc it's roughly the same time as the AVE train then the cost ,all one way prices ,63 euros for the train only 28euro's to fly but add on the price of getting to Lyon airport is high there is a tgv direct to Lyon airport but cost is over 50 euros for a 30 minutes trip!! going to Lyon part dieu then the tram to the airport is also roughly 50euros ,and as you said that station is very crowded but i know it well so i have no problems, it seems like the area is always like a building site thats never ending,it must be over 10 years there has been work somewhere at the station ou very close to the station 😂😂 Anyway thank you for the video and will now watch your next one
That's true, in terms of costs, the plane has many hidden costs by going from and to the airport, extra luggage, etc. France has this new law for no flights what can be done within 2 hours by train, this doesn't go far enough, it should be double. Somehow I guess the area around Lyon Part Dieu will be pretty soon.
Did you notice the seats are the same ones NS uses on their ICRm coaches?
Ooohhh I didn't knew that but now you're mentioning it... yes.
Great video. i like your detailed reviews.
Just to add a few background details and an small corrections of pronunciations.
The bran of Renfe's high speed should be read as a word: A-VE. This is usually the norm in Spanish, and many other languages, when the initialisms can be read as a word it is usually the way to call it, especially when it becomes a bran. AVE is a bran that does mean Alta Velocidad Española but as a bran was meant to be read as a word since AVE is bird in Spanish and you can see this depicted in the logo. It's like you sat Renfe, not R-E-N-E-E (originally initialisms of Red Nacional de los Ferrocarriles Españoles).
For Figueres: Like in other languages (from Latin) the G can be soft or hard and before i and e it's soft so in order to make it a hrd G you add the U before, but do not pronounced it so it's Fi-Ge-Res (the end is pronounced more like RAS).
For Girona, since the names are Catalan the soft G is more like a soft G in English but softer (closer to J in French).
As for competition. I know some have reservations about it but,as you rightfully say, we should use train as much as possible and the fact is that the best way to do it is lower prices. The infrastructure and regulation remains in the hands of the government but private operators can use it for a fee, just like in the airline industry.
As for the relations between Renfe/Spain and SNCF/France. Spain embraced open access completely making things as easy as possible for companies like SNCF, that operates their low cost Bran OuiGo while France/SNCF do all they can to prevent it or delay it. The breakup came from SNCF that without any problems continued their Paris Barcelona rout after it while the French government did not allow Renfe to do the same and demanded they go though a very very long process, even though they operated trains there for years. Finally they had no choice but they delayed the approval of the rout to Paris, and once again now as it was suppose to start now but will only happen (probably) in Autumn - after the Olympics (Spain's athletes were suppose to get to Paris by train). The fact that the HSR line to Spain is still not finished and the connection on the other side in Irun (Basque Country) is even further away is just more of the same thing.
Feeee arrrre abbbouttt tooo ffffind outtttt
There are two reasons why Renfe uses its oldest high-speed trains, the 100 series, to run in France:
- Firstly, because they are the same as the French Alstom TGVs. France puts a lot of obstacles in the way of homologating non-SNCF trains, so Renfe chose to homologate these trains identical to its own. Still, the French authorities put every possible problem they could think of.
- Secondly, because once these trains were approved, Renfe decided to order 100% new trains to make French connections (and other domestic ones in Spain). The Talgo AVRIL. These trains should have been in operation 1 or 2 years ago, but they have had a lot of technical problems and it's only been a month since they started running in Spain. And they still continue to have problems, besides a confrontation between the company Renfe and the manufacturer Talgo.
If nothing (more) goes wrong, in the coming months we should see the new AVRIL replacing these 100 series in France, and Renfe entering new corridors like Lyon-Paris.
Thanks for your video.
Thanks for the video! Will there be a video about the Frecciarossa ???
I still need to edit that one haha
You mentioned there is a train from Toulouse to Barcelona. Is that a direct connection? Didn't know about that one...
That's a direct connection, indeed. However, it's a reasonable train.
Was the audio system working? Ut usually does
To be honest, I didn't test it out this time.
@@Trainviking ok
9:18 THE AVE, THE BEST TRAIN IN THE WORLD
These are good trains for sure, honestly I don't use terms like best but they're absolutely good. To be honest I found some other AVE trains a bit better, although it's not a bad train.
@@Trainvikingwhat is your favorite AVE train from the fleet? 🤔
what a horrible trainstation of Lyon!
Do you mean my pronunciation?