MatPat has always had a lot of pushback for his theories, especially since theyre taken as gospel by a lot of fnaf fans. I think its good to listen to a variety of theories since nothing is truly concrete in the games
But he really deserves the credit he was the first one to discover william afton name and figure out michael afton role into the story all because of the books.
I say for the most part all his theories are incredibly good at trying to make sense of the stupid lore, with only a few theories that are kinda bad. sometimes the theory it'self doesn't bother me, sometimes it's the evidence that doesn't make sense when I would normally be fine with the theory it'self
It’s like people forget that there are whole channels on CZcams that are just true crime podcast who clearly do not care about the victim and just wanna make it a show
i think the security breach is a fun game but you're right, it's not scary, and even if the first fnaf games weren't THAT scary either, the atmosphere was very specific and security breach seems more like an adventure game than an horror one (i think the movie is going to be something like that too)
i hate the fact that they won’t retire william as a villain. like wdym glitchtrap is possibly an AI copy of william from old circuit boards💀. would’ve just liked vanny being a copycat TBH, instead of her being possessed/manipulated. idk new lore kinda to sci-fi it’s very underwhelming.
They could have made Vanny one of those true crime girlies who thinks that the killer was "misunderstood" or whatever and yeah like you said turned into a copycat
I am a big Game Theory/GT Live fan and one thing I never understood was why Matpat got all the hate for his theories because most of the time... they're correct. For example, I saw a ton of hate on one part of his 'final timeline 4 part-er' theory he put out about the Mediocre Melodies being ripoffs. And people were angry about this for some reason. But it's true! It was confirmed very shortly after. So I while I understand feeling frustrated about some theories (Gregory being a robot) it's not fair to hate on Matpat. In my humble opinion, anyways.
I really don't think most of his theories are as factual as you think. To me the main issue is how confident Matpat was all the time. I mean he literally called his most recent timeline "the ultimate timeline" and yet a lot of it, particularly the start and end, is just complete fan-fiction. There's never any mention of the great depression or dancing bear carnivals or Mrs. Afton being the CEO anywhere in any of the games, yet he added these details anyway to try to make a proper story arc out of a series that never has been and never will be meant to have one. It doesn't matter how many times he says "it's just a theory", most people are going to spread it like fact regardless because of how much he tried to convince his audience of these things, when in reality it's just an idea of what COULD be true. Many viewers, FNaF fan and newcomer alike, are going to see these videos and assume that everything in them is correct, because why wouldn't they be? He doesn't theorize about the possibilities of FNaF's story, he tries to SOLVE it, even though that's just not possible. This is a problem that almost every single theorist in the FNaF community has, Matpat just got the most criticism for it since he's the one most people are gonna see.
I see a lot of people complaining about the hate MatPat apparently gets, but I've never seen the hate myself. If anything all I see is people worshipping him, to the point where youtubers have to make like 4 disclaimers before making the slightest criticism. I'm not saying the hate doesn't exist, but I've yet to see it for myself
The story should have ended at fnaf 6, Henry's speech is the hardest thing to ever exist. (Also custom night as it gives a solid end to the restless spirits)
Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator really wasn't the perfect final game that everyone thinks it is. For an ending that's meant to tie up loose ends and put all the characters to rest, it sure leaves out some pretty damn important ones. The original five missing kids aren't even there officially, and no, MoltenMCI doesn't count since it's a fan theory and therefore not confirmed canon. Neither is the crying child / bite victim, he isn't referenced at all. The DCI from FNaF 2 is also never brought up ever again. I also think the overall game just doesn't make a ton of sense. Like why is Henry only doing something about the situation now? Why is he risking the life of another person and tricking them into running a fake business instead of doing the work himself? Why does he need to build a machine specifically to capture the animatronic body of his own daughter? Also Midnight Motorist was a mess that nobody asked for and completely contradicts the already flimsy sense of finality that this game was supposed to have.
@@caldercockatoo2234 theres also baby suddenly personality change between sl and pizza sim, now she have daddy issues and wants to make her daddy proud, but in sl she literally wants to kill him
Im a big fan of security breach, always have been! I think it’s awesome, flaws and all! But I am SO in love with your pitch for a rewrite. A “big” mall with animatronics with the same functionality of a furby of all things?? Beautiful. Absolutely genius. I mean it! This is what security breach SHOULD HAVE BEEN. Imagine if your dear father-figure-friend-Freddy could on communicate through broken cut-up sentences directed by a friendly lost soul who wants no more than to make sure another child like them isn’t taken from this world, robbed of a future. Literally genius. Actual perfection. Imagine if the animatronics who hunted you were actually scary! Imagine if they were covered in matted fur, leathery scales and clearly fake feathers. All while the security guard you thought was trying to help you hunts you from the dusty rabbit suit they hide in, blocking off exits and making you hide from the cameras view… god this idea is EVERYTHING to me. I’d love to see this idea delved into more!id love to do my own take on it as well, with your permission, of course? If not, that’s totally ok! I get it! Anyways, this video is awesome! Even if my bot (the mimic) got dragged a lil bit. I love him, but he kinda deserved it! Thanks!
I just don’t really care about the fnaf lore at this point lol. It’s way too complicated now and it’s pretty clear Scott’s just making things up as he goes. I just like watching the theories anyways cuz for the most part they’re pretty entertaining
Also, people exaggerate FNAF’s lore complexities. It’s not as chaotic as people make it out to be! First, many of modern FNAF’s lore details were started all the way in the Silver Eyes trilogy. I could rant for hours about this and how much is overlooked and basically confirmed but still ignored.
No, people aren't exaggerating the chaotic nature of the story and lore of FNaF at all most of the major problems with FNaF's overall story and lore primarily stems from Five Nights at Freddy's 4 where Scott really turned up the cryptic angle of the series unnecessarily and most theorists use the SIlver Eyes and the novellas in their theory-crafting so I would say its an understatement that they are overlooked because they aren't at all since they are often used by the FNaF community.
@@jasonallen6918 the issue with thenlore is that there's so much inconsistencies or thirirs made csn just be thrown off by one change in a future game. The lore for the games was honestly better off just ending at fnaf 6 because it would have been a perfect bow , i liked to see the story as Mike going to each pizzariea in order to redo the mess william does, and finally putting it to an end in fnaf 6, setting himself free, his sister free, as well as charlie(Puppet/lefty) and molten freddy. This was a good ending because it truly ended the william saga , and it really was annoying when springtrap came back as springtrap, while vanny didnt et the time to shine, i feel like vanny could have been Afton without afton exactly controlling her
scrap baby was just Elizibeth recreating her body best she could with some optimizations specifically for child murder. how she thought she'd get close to kids looking that though? I am not sure.
you should TOTALLy do a redesign/rewrite! i absolutely love your time travel ocs so when i think abt u redesigning/rewriting the fnaf lore i get realll excited the way you make lore is innovative and smart!!! fr hoping u atleas redesign them 🤞🤞🤞
Hah redesign/rewrite. Not like I’m working on both of those through 2 of my projects. But I do agree tbh, but Fnaf lore is overly put down imo it’s not as complex as people make it out to be. Ig they’ve never seen the Greek god family tree or the show Once Upon a Time :p
While I am a huge FNAF fan, I do have to admit the lore in the later games is a bit to convoluted and not realistic. I kinda wish FNAF stayed true to it’s darker roots over time. It went mostly Sci-Fi later on. Later games like SL and security breach are not bad aesthetically, and are cool concepts, but the story and gameplay of both are just not that interesting to me. Feel like it was mostly the execution of it all and how suddenly it was introduced. I agree with a lot of things said in this video. I hope the FNAF movie will return the franchises older elements that made me find it interesting. Also I gotta say, I love those FNAF 2 designs! Perfect blend between the uncanny, and endearing. Rubber masks remind me of Showbiz animatronics and I personally like that style a lot better then the hard plastic look of the original toys. I’ve never really seen too many redesigns that go for this approach besides Battington and a few others. It’s hardly seen in any fan games though. Out of all of them I’d have to say the puppet is my fav. Love how you added the clown/jester like appearance to make a more interesting looking design. (And yes, do that re-design!)
I’ve never been all too interested in fnaf but your art keeps me alive so I am morally obligated to watch this video (which was VERY informative and cool). Thank you for another masterpiece
U HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD especiually with the security breach and sister location takes. the truely creepy parts of fnaf are when things happen that shouldnt. family friendly animatronics look unsettling and hurt or kill people for unpredictable reasons. dodgy companies taking shortcuts with their equipment and producing faulty and dangeroud machinery makes it all feel so much more possible and that is the part of the franchise that sticks with me as time goes on. i desperately hope that the movie captures that side of it ;w; and i totally agree that the sci-fi stuff,,, like it can be good if done well but paranormal stuff, like ghosts, is scarier when you dont understand it!! thats why its scary!! the unknown factors are what make you feel so unsafe, which goes hand in hand with the aforementioned sketchy, unmaintained suits/animatronics etc. amazing video, i LOVE the art too it really captures the vibe of,, 'these characters or this envirment is meant to be fun and appealing,,, but something is wrong"
in the books i forgot which one but there was a part were ballora literally split a worker in half and his insides were out, and he was alive too and the workers just left him there. heartbreaking
in the books i forgot which one but there was a part were ballora literally split a worker in half and his insides were out, and he was alive too and the workers just left him there. heartbreaking
Tbh my biggest annoyance in the fnaf lore was how Elizabeth was treated because in the Charlie Trilogy and the logbook she just seems so different? She had alot of potential especially when it came to Eleanor possibly being possessed by Elizabeth so if there was one thing that I would change it would probably be her story idk maybe im just biased lmao
I always liked William afton as a villain but man this dude has too many things he can do. He can make animatronics. He can code himself into a game?. He also is able to make a fear gas sorta thing. I hope for the movies they stick to him being a animatronic maker. designing robots to kill kids and stuff cus I find that semi believable and freaky.I also hope they actually explain his motivations to why he kills kids.
Funny how she apologizes after every opinion she states as if we fnaf fans aren't the biggest fnaf haters and agree with all the hot takes, we just ignore them
great vid as always!! i love how the animatronics look in ur style!! quick clarification tho- william was caught sometime in the 80s but wasn't arrested as the police couldnt find the children. it's in the news clippings of fnaf 1, kinda sucks but it is what it is
A common misconception, Scott has gone out of his way to state that he is not canon. It's obvious that the indie dev is a stand in, but he's not just Scott. In fact, the life of this indie developer and how they came to develop the in universe games is shown in one of the many stories of Tales from the Pizzaplex. People debate the books' canonicity constantly, but this is one of those stories that explains/shows something that has no equivalent elsewhere nor contradictions due to similar events from the games. Another point is that Help Wanted does not make everything before it vaguely capable of any and all retconning. Everything from the games before Help Wanted are still as canon as they were before. One of the hidden tapes in HW even state this exact thing, Fazbear Entertainment is trying to cover up the past as exaggerations or false events through the indie dev and VR title, and that all of these stories and rumors are in fact true. Scott also addressed in the same post about him being canon or not that the reason the games now exist in universe was to explain how all of these characters and events, even established non canon material such as FNaF4's Halloween Edition were able to come together in one singular in universe experience. It's meant to be confusing with the eventual reveal through the tapes that it's another one of FE's attempts to muddy the past, but most people seem to have either forgotten that tape or simply aren't familiar with it's intention of revealing the canon as still fully intact. I feel it would've been better to not cause such confusion in the first place, but I also haven't ever been in a position to make a mini game collection of various different unconnected events part of a series' canon.
Yeah a lot of what made the franchise popular in the first place is completely gone now. The concept of possessed animatronics is ridiculous, but Scott was able to make the idea feel grounded and creepy through nostalgia, atmosphere, and subtle storytelling. The fact that the series is never able to recapture the atmosphere and horror of the first game is a shame. And as long as the newer games remain canon, I don’t think it possibly can. Scott clearly wanted to move onto something else after the 4th game. The fact that he was willing to retcon the story of the first three games into being just a dream, kinda shows that he didn’t really care about the franchise anymore. But obviously that concept didn’t sit well with fans who spent hours picking apart these games and researching the lore. This was pretty much the first red flag that Scott may have forgotten what this franchise was supposed to be, and why it appealed to so many people. But regardless, Scott clearly wasn’t invested in this franchise anymore, but at the same time, he didn’t want to leave fans with an unsatisfying ending. So he made the game he wanted to make. He made a goofy sci-fi “horror” game and slapped the fnaf brand on it. This is when the franchise lost me. The world no longer felt intriguing or believable. Theorizing about the franchise used to be so special because we genuinely wanted to learn more about this universe that we were so immersed in. The quality of the games was never really brought into question until the 4th game because people were just so immersed in the story to care, and I think that says a lot. Now it just feels like people try to uncover the lore just for the sake of it. Not because we actually care, but because that’s all fnaf really is anymore. It’s a kids franchise with extremely vague lore that will never be solved, because if it was, there would be nothing left to keep people engaged. No horror, no atmosphere, nothing. Anyways, sorry for this rant. I’ve just always been so mind blown by the first three games, and to see the franchise veer so far away from those games is a real shame. Thankfully, I think fans have been able to keep the spirit (no pun intended) of those games alive through vhs tapes, and fan games. I do hope the franchise returns to its roots, but after watching the movie, it seems very unlikely lol. There’s a lot more I could go into, but I might as well just make a yt video rant if i keep going lol. Thank you to those who read this extremely long rant. And great job on the video. You summed up a lot of my thoughts very well, and hopefully more people speak up about the direction of the franchise so we can get back on track. Hopefully Scott hands the franchise over to someone who understands why fnaf became popular in the first place. And hopefully they retcon the new games. It would only be fitting since Scott keeps trying to retcon the old ones lol. And i know it seems like i’ve just been bashing Scott, but I gotta give him credit. I think he did a brilliant job on the first three games. The concepts that he introduced such as the spring-lock suits were extremely creative, and down right brilliant. I just think the problem is that he didn’t want to make fnaf games anymore, so instead of simply making a new series, he just made games that were nothing like what fnaf once was, and just slapped the fnaf brand on it and, tried to tie it into the lore in whatever way he could. Fnaf just became an outlet for Scott to experiment and do whatever tf he wanted, which was obviously never going to work with this franchise.
I do have to say your art is absolutely incredible. Really reminds me of real animatronics. It gives of this uncanny feeling and looks absolutely awesome. I hope the future games dive more into that realistic/ creepy atmosphere the first games gave me.
I just wish Scott would've stuck to the original formula that FNaF 1 brought us, the atmosphere alone was creepy, mysterious, had an old dingy feeling (Like an early 2000s vibe, at least to me). It was perfect, and it still holds up, I think. Either way, I wish it was scary like it used to be, back when the lore wasn't so overcomplicated.
Hah “constantly” He came back like 3 times (First Fnaf 3 in a Life way, then FFPS, then HW (though it’s more likely that that’s not William), then SB. And if you count the Mimic in ruin. Three or four times.)
@@Sapphire864 three or four times in a franchise with like 8 or 9 ACTUAL games is still like half or a quarter of them, if you ask me, maybe the first one was surprising but honestly i was there for the next ones and they were boring as hell i feel like after two or three times you can call it constantly because lets be honest people coming back from death is not exactly a daily occurrence
I’ve always thought fnaf’s story wasn’t carried by the games but rather dedicated fans who were willing to listen to all this bs. Like I give Scott basically no credit for the story but the community deserves praise for the work they do piecing this stuff together
i think Vanny shoukd have been like a crazy fangirl over william to where she basically carries on his crines even though he's dead, it would be a more intresting take on the act of killing the kids because vannys motives would just be to be like william,
I really think the Mimic could work, I mean let's imagine this, an AI which learnt how to mimic victims and victimizers, just put it in a more realistic setting and this would be powerful, like for example instead of a futuristic mall, is a small town restaurant where there aren't animatronics, but employees wearing mascot costumes, and in the night the costumes started to moving on their own because someone or something is wearing them, yiacks
I remember FNAF theories in 2014 - 2015 when there was only the trilogy of the first games. the story was complicated but it was better than now, I personally think it should have ended in the third game even though I liked the fourth game and some others.
I do identify as a FNAF fan but I agree with the majority of your points. I personally think it lost its spark around sister location Michael’s death was confusing and rather boring, like wasn’t it supposed to do something I can’t even remember what cause it didn’t really impact the story. I think it would’ve been more interesting to have William murder him or something, finally getting revenge for the event that lead him down this path and then he would still be around but we could have a new main antagonist. I also agree with security breach it felt like a different franchise in my opinion like it’s just not it for me, I was thinking about how it would be if it was still set in the 80s or 90s; to give some time to set up a new pizza place while letting things run their course cause people must really suck to not care at all about these dead children; and I think it would much more uncanny not only because of the uncanny style but also Gregory could’ve been hiding in a spring locked suit like every moment you would be wondering if it would just snap. The potential!!! Great video! Have a nice day!
Scrapbaby is the scooped endoskeleton of baby separated from Ennard, and the rest of her is junk she used to rebuild her body. Scraptrap, Scott usually designs and redesigns things because he thinks they are cool or scary or he just likes the designs. Toy Chica and Scraptrap are examples which he commented on before. Scott actually outright stated that he is not canon to the games, and that the games exist in the world to explain the non canon characters. Most MatPat criticisms is followed up with reasons why he is wrong I noticed. That aside I think MatPat's theories actively spread misinformation. I would point to no his Mario video as the prime example, with the addition of him admitting he twists information and leaves out important contradicting information to create a narrative using said Mario video as an example.
I feel like Security Breach would have been so much creepier had it been set in something like... the old Lollihop in Munich maybe? I haven't been there in many many years, but I remember the atmosphere clearly It's an indoor playground kinda thing and actually has some of the things shown in SB! Especially the giant jungle gym really took me back to my childhood. I remember getting lost in it, and set in a horror game that would be TERRIFYING! Looking out the mesh on the sides, seeing where you need to get, but not knowing how to get there? Scaryyy
What really adds even more bullshit (as if we needed anymore) is the existence of the mimic and the shadow animatronics. This is why I personally believe that glitchtrap/burntrap are William Afton and the mimic is just a separate character
First of all, what you said aboit Fnaf is so true. I just want an uncanny, small scaled paranormal weird creepy shit back. Secondly, I LOVE the artwork you made for this video. Its beautifuuul and fits the vibe of the first three games so wellll. So if you ever want to redesign the animatronics, I'll be 100% down for it.
Personally I love fnaf and the lore doesn’t become an issue if you view security breach as a different continuity like the books or movie. I feel like people tend to forget that the story of the games are supposed to be in the back burner and you can puzzle it together if you want. That’s a part of the fun is the community making their own timelines. Also the story is written in such a fun way using phone guy and mini games. You also gotta realize each game was going to be last in scotts mind - side note I really recommend dawkos interview with Scott if you got the time - so that being said I think Scott did an amazing job making each game for what it is and there’s aspects of the games and story that truly make it the best for me
The video by Bumbles McFumbles is the best explanation of the timeline in my opinion. As it truly shows how little sense it makes. Did Sister location take place before Fnaf 1? During 4? After 3? Who knows
Subscribed for more information about hamilton and this video gave me reason to continue being subrscribed. Keep up the good work, really enjoying the topics!
I think that alone FNAF SB is an amazing game. It's so cool in concept (it does have it's faults though) but when you consider it's supposed to be part of a HORROR franchise... It all falls apart along with the story. If someone made the concept of FNAF SB as a separate game I think I'd love it so much but it disappoints in the lack of horror
You know this video made me realize something. The animatronics became different forms of scary throughout time. Fredbear and Springbonnie were scary because they didn't know anything, but could kill you. The possessed animatronics know what's going on, but they don't know you, and will kill you if they find you. And the AI-powered SB animatronics know who you are and will hunt to kill you. They're all scary for different reasons, but fall under similar categories- what they know about whatever is happening, and what they know about you.
remnant feels like midecholrians to me, only worse, explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, except instead of the force, it's the possession of robots by murdered children, like it's a lot creepier and more interesting if there's not some sci-fi bullshit explanation of it
I absolutely LOVE the rendering style on both of the pieces!! You did such an amazing job making them realistic but also stylized- I can't look away from them omg!!❤
my thing abt security breach is that its set in the future with better tech. the intention to be fun entertainment for kids is still there, only now they have the know-how to actually do that. it wouldnt make sense for the glamrocks to have that same uncanny valley edge with how advanced technology would be in the future
I think the reason that micheal was not killed is because the remnant, considering ennard was a combination of all the funtimes put together, its got a bit of dead kid juice in the mix, since the funtimes are essentially just remnant farms (i think? i dont know whats canon and whats theories we all just heavily believe at this point) your so right about scraptrap and scrapbaby (thought i think her design is cool) i dont really understand why they look like that, i mean scrapbaby has a literally traffic light on her, rollerskates, and a claw hand? maybe she just fixed herself up with random parts lol i feel like the reason the lore is so loved even though its scattered and stuff is because thats part of the fun and thats why its been alive for so long, and keeps coming back (!? afton reference) even if the scattered-ness is not intentional, its leaves alot of openness for imagination i agree with you on the security breach thing, and yes sun and moon are really cool. Ruin though, personally, i think its great. i think it was the perfect mix of everything, and ill be honest i cried a few times. I agree with you on the mimic thing, i think its a cool character, but it doesnt really make sense, what is it? also its kind of *COUGH* ugly *COUGH* thank you for reading my essay
Late to the party, but the reason why William wasn't caught for the Charlie Murder are many. First, we don't know home much the Facial System good actually works, also considering that the Fazbear Ent. in not that of a honest company and the possibility that William could tempered the animatronics make me really doubt that will actually work. Plus, the Charlie Murder happened in a heavy rain night, outside a restaurant, and at the time (IIRC) the Marionette worked using an armlet system to recognize Charlie.
I love the way you did the gang, especially Chica It definitely has more of that nostalgic vibe of a character in an establishment that kids love but also would terrify the hell outta some kids too
YES THERE WILL COME SOFT RAINS!! Ive never heard anyone else talk about this short story!! It is my absolute favorite short story because of how unsettled I felt reading it
im one of the people who believe fnaf honestly should have ended at the 3rd of 4th game. the endings in those games make the most sense story-telling wise, but still left things up to interpretation. which is always nice in fandoms revolved around games
I totally understand were ur coming from like what the hell humans look what's happening around man we got a guy spilling guts, we got kids going missing every week pay attention watch the news my people but at the same the game is so scattered that people make their own lore and headcannos for being so confused from the cannon game lore I'm like that but overall I love this game and everything about it it's like my fav well one, I am in to Many fandoms bro fav are sundrop moondrop sue me ❤
Justamente estaba pensando en que ya casi me veo todos los videos en tu canal, entonces que hayas subido video me viene perfecto, de paso de Fnaf!!! Amo fnaf y amo tus dibujos, tu estilo es tan hermoso, me siento inspirada por ti 💖💖
There’s been a lot of theory’s and different lore conspiracies popping left and right. At this point, I don’t know what the lore is anymore. I’m just gonna cross fingers and hope one day Scott will make a post or something about the entire lore.
It’s meant to not make sense, oddly enough. Scott likes (loves, even) leaving people questioning everything. It’s genius, but only for a little while. I think he’s on the edge of “nothing makes sense so I give up on trying to make it make sense”. He’s really pushing it right now but I’ve been a fan for so long so I feel like I *have* to stay. Something in me will not allow me to leave 🥲
I LOVEEEE this video! Thank you for having the guts to point all the flaws out. If you haven’t already, I recommend uhyeah’s rundown of sister location, and wendigoons lore video. They’re both really good imo!
I am really glad you brought up this conversation! Like you, I love FNAF, it has been part of my life for like 5-6 years now, but there are a lot of things I think are problematic or stuff I don’t like. For example, the rouge developer, like you, was a bit “eh” for me, and FNAF security Breach had so much potential that it didn’t do. What I hope moving forward is that they explore the A.I more, how it can affect people’s lives, and maybe even AI art too since that has been so bad recently. Anyway, thank you for sharing with us and stay safe and well! May beautiful colors fill your world! ❤️🌈
this is insanely well edited, thought out and the art is stunning. you're gonna be the next big art CZcamsr for sure. thank you so much for the content and the inspiration!!!
As a person who loved to watch gacha fnaf, the lore isn't that hard to piece together, but then again I stopped following along with fnaf just when secutity breach came out C.C, Elizabeths and William's deaths are animated on yt somewhere I'm pretty sure we know the names of the kids in the main 4 animatronics too
Aghh this video is so spot on with everything. I was a fnaf obsessed kid at the time of 1 and 2, started losing interest by 3 and was not there for everything that followed. I'm for sure very biased but I think the first game was the peak of the franchise, made more interesting by leaving the story vague and focusing on atmosphere. Every quality that made me like it got sanded off with each new release...
If you try to put all of the books and the games into one story you would get so many conflicting things that cannot be true simultaneously, and so the only way to make a coherent story is put details into multiple timelines, thus mimic and Glitch-trap is both simultaneously the same and different characters at the same time all depending on what timeline you're going with😑
How mimic and glitchtrap are the same and are different (if it's true) is that glitchtrap is a offspring of Mimic1 (the code) and is but not The Mimic (the animatronic). But with the timelines that's why theories like Stitchline (only stories connected to the stitch wraith stingers) and Talesgames (only tales from the pizzaplex books)
I love this video! I love your redesigns and would love to see more. I don't really agree with some of the points you made in the video but I do understand where you are coming from. The lore of these games is definitely a hot mess
I’ve always been interested in figuring out the FNAF lore, so a few months back I went and watched an *8 hour long explanation* or nearly everything FNAF that related to the lore. And it was very worth it to me. It actually made sense for the time since in my life lol. It wasn’t from MatPatt cause his theories are kinda… all over the place 😅
I have never been scared of Fnaf which is kind of sad. I wish Scott kept going with the scare and serial killer part of the story. I also believe the story would have been more consistent that way. He should have written the story and branches first before getting into Fnaf 2 and forward as well. I love Sun & moon though; they gave me a creep factor while also interesting me.
The reason FNAF Lore doesn't make sense is due to the fact that it isn't very consistent. We can also see this in the Novels as well. How come no one found the bodies of the missing children? Human bodies typically begin to decompose within a year, but take up to a decade to completely decompose, leaving only the skeleton. And you thought the terrible smell inside the Anymatronic will give it away? And will the person responsible for repairing the animatornic report the bodies once they are found? Why they built Springlock Suits that can kill anyone inside of it instead of simply making empty costumes. WIlliam Afton got scared like a coward over the children he killed, and went inside his deathtrap of a suit, aware of how dangerous it was, and laughed. The player didn't try to leave to save itself at all even though there were plenty of times when we could, and come back for work knowing how dangerous it was. Michael Afton aka the Player in Sister Location didn't get out of the Scooper's way despite there being enough room to evade it, and leaved the place in the first place. The Fazbear Entertainment somehow didn't get sued for all of the shady stuff that they did including selling toys that can cut fingers. The Police are shomehow incompetent that a guy can get away with murder several times. The Fazbear's Fright Employees somehow didn't notice that a dead guy was inside Springtrap. The designed for the buildings are so poorly design that the faulty wiring makes the whole place catch on fire and to move in Sister Location you have to uses the ventilation. Scott maybe is a decent game designer, but he is poor at Literature.
Make a lot of good points & it makes me curious on how things could be if edited & fixed As much as I love Glamrock Freddy & enjoy the scenery in Security Breach the game has issues. There is unused audio that shows for whatever reason Vanessa's personality was changed last minute. The fact the movie is more understandable & it's a different universe to the games. I'm rambling & getting lost but it'd be nice to see things work if a more understandable lore fix happened. Like you said.
I adore your first drawing, so so so much. Love the lighting, colors, DESIGN. I love seeing semi normal girl artists rant about fnaf or markiplier or games in general, because no one does it. Also you’re very talented, I really hope to see more fnaf content from you. You earned a subscriber fs👍
Please do the redesign video!! Your speedpaints were sick!! :D Also as a huge fnaf fan myself I’d mostly agree on the Security Breach part. Yeah- Though I still think the Mimic is cool the games are just soo underwhelming fr
19:00 my theory on scrap baby: for her moving faster, she actually had built in roller skates so that it doesnt make so frikin sound when she walks. the claw is probs the one she captured elizabeth with and the hair.. well uh... we dont talk about it :DD
Honestly I would have just rewrite the lore to make it less complex and more realistic but still try to fix the source material. I did have several ideas but at the same time, there are a lot of cool rewrites out there that are really good. However I’m interested if you had any ideas of how you would rewrite the lore.
MatPat has always had a lot of pushback for his theories, especially since theyre taken as gospel by a lot of fnaf fans. I think its good to listen to a variety of theories since nothing is truly concrete in the games
that’s true, i tried not to take everything matpat said as 100 percent true, it’s good to have other perspectives!
I agree ever tho I love matpat it’s good to see other things sometimes
But he really deserves the credit he was the first one to discover william afton name and figure out michael afton role into the story all because of the books.
Honestly I’d make my own theory but it’s so much effort so I just follow MatPats 😭
I say for the most part all his theories are incredibly good at trying to make sense of the stupid lore, with only a few theories that are kinda bad. sometimes the theory it'self doesn't bother me, sometimes it's the evidence that doesn't make sense when I would normally be fine with the theory it'self
honestly the fnaf horror attraction being based off of the missing children sadly sounds like something that would happen in real life.
i always loved how creative the setting changes were fnaf 2-4. maybe even 5 too
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It’s like people forget that there are whole channels on CZcams that are just true crime podcast who clearly do not care about the victim and just wanna make it a show
lmao the random "help me" in the puppet speedpaint😭
it was a cry for help i was not feelin it that day lmao
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i think the security breach is a fun game but you're right, it's not scary, and even if the first fnaf games weren't THAT scary either, the atmosphere was very specific and security breach seems more like an adventure game than an horror one (i think the movie is going to be something like that too)
Hah I can play ruin without getting scared but I’m scared by SB 💀
@@Sapphire864 what are you scared about? white woman jumpscare?
@@Sapphire864 Why?
just watched it. matpat is in it, vanessa (yes that vanessa) is williams daughter and mike is no longer his son
@@redpanda6497 Humans are complex. Wdym ‘why’?
i hate the fact that they won’t retire william as a villain. like wdym glitchtrap is possibly an AI copy of william from old circuit boards💀. would’ve just liked vanny being a copycat TBH, instead of her being possessed/manipulated. idk new lore kinda to sci-fi it’s very underwhelming.
They could have made Vanny one of those true crime girlies who thinks that the killer was "misunderstood" or whatever and yeah like you said turned into a copycat
I am a big Game Theory/GT Live fan and one thing I never understood was why Matpat got all the hate for his theories because most of the time... they're correct.
For example, I saw a ton of hate on one part of his 'final timeline 4 part-er' theory he put out about the Mediocre Melodies being ripoffs. And people were angry about this for some reason. But it's true! It was confirmed very shortly after. So I while I understand feeling frustrated about some theories (Gregory being a robot) it's not fair to hate on Matpat. In my humble opinion, anyways.
Cuz people act like he's Gospel, like he's the Messiah.
@@AbbeyYardwhile I get the frustration it's not really Mat's fault people don't understand what a theory is.
I really don't think most of his theories are as factual as you think.
To me the main issue is how confident Matpat was all the time. I mean he literally called his most recent timeline "the ultimate timeline" and yet a lot of it, particularly the start and end, is just complete fan-fiction. There's never any mention of the great depression or dancing bear carnivals or Mrs. Afton being the CEO anywhere in any of the games, yet he added these details anyway to try to make a proper story arc out of a series that never has been and never will be meant to have one.
It doesn't matter how many times he says "it's just a theory", most people are going to spread it like fact regardless because of how much he tried to convince his audience of these things, when in reality it's just an idea of what COULD be true. Many viewers, FNaF fan and newcomer alike, are going to see these videos and assume that everything in them is correct, because why wouldn't they be?
He doesn't theorize about the possibilities of FNaF's story, he tries to SOLVE it, even though that's just not possible. This is a problem that almost every single theorist in the FNaF community has, Matpat just got the most criticism for it since he's the one most people are gonna see.
I see a lot of people complaining about the hate MatPat apparently gets, but I've never seen the hate myself. If anything all I see is people worshipping him, to the point where youtubers have to make like 4 disclaimers before making the slightest criticism. I'm not saying the hate doesn't exist, but I've yet to see it for myself
That night guard fit is such a slay.
The story should have ended at fnaf 6, Henry's speech is the hardest thing to ever exist. (Also custom night as it gives a solid end to the restless spirits)
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Or it should ended in fnaf 3 lol
Facts. The Entire Fnaf saga should've ended at Fnaf 6
Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator really wasn't the perfect final game that everyone thinks it is. For an ending that's meant to tie up loose ends and put all the characters to rest, it sure leaves out some pretty damn important ones. The original five missing kids aren't even there officially, and no, MoltenMCI doesn't count since it's a fan theory and therefore not confirmed canon. Neither is the crying child / bite victim, he isn't referenced at all. The DCI from FNaF 2 is also never brought up ever again. I also think the overall game just doesn't make a ton of sense. Like why is Henry only doing something about the situation now? Why is he risking the life of another person and tricking them into running a fake business instead of doing the work himself? Why does he need to build a machine specifically to capture the animatronic body of his own daughter? Also Midnight Motorist was a mess that nobody asked for and completely contradicts the already flimsy sense of finality that this game was supposed to have.
@@caldercockatoo2234 theres also baby suddenly personality change between sl and pizza sim, now she have daddy issues and wants to make her daddy proud, but in sl she literally wants to kill him
Im a big fan of security breach, always have been! I think it’s awesome, flaws and all! But I am SO in love with your pitch for a rewrite. A “big” mall with animatronics with the same functionality of a furby of all things?? Beautiful. Absolutely genius. I mean it! This is what security breach SHOULD HAVE BEEN. Imagine if your dear father-figure-friend-Freddy could on communicate through broken cut-up sentences directed by a friendly lost soul who wants no more than to make sure another child like them isn’t taken from this world, robbed of a future. Literally genius. Actual perfection. Imagine if the animatronics who hunted you were actually scary! Imagine if they were covered in matted fur, leathery scales and clearly fake feathers. All while the security guard you thought was trying to help you hunts you from the dusty rabbit suit they hide in, blocking off exits and making you hide from the cameras view… god this idea is EVERYTHING to me. I’d love to see this idea delved into more!id love to do my own take on it as well, with your permission, of course? If not, that’s totally ok! I get it!
Anyways, this video is awesome! Even if my bot (the mimic) got dragged a lil bit. I love him, but he kinda deserved it! Thanks!
THANK YOU!! yes of course! go ahead :)))
@@emmasaurt thank you sm!!
I just don’t really care about the fnaf lore at this point lol. It’s way too complicated now and it’s pretty clear Scott’s just making things up as he goes. I just like watching the theories anyways cuz for the most part they’re pretty entertaining
phineas and ferb moment:
-fnaf lore makes no sense
-no, no it doesn't.
-hey where's perry?
Also, people exaggerate FNAF’s lore complexities. It’s not as chaotic as people make it out to be!
First, many of modern FNAF’s lore details were started all the way in the Silver Eyes trilogy. I could rant for hours about this and how much is overlooked and basically confirmed but still ignored.
It also certainly helps I’ve been baking a theory for a while now
It also helps that now, thanks to Ruin, the lore can be divided into two eras: the Afton era and Mimic era!
No, people aren't exaggerating the chaotic nature of the story and lore of FNaF at all most of the major problems with FNaF's overall story and lore primarily stems from Five Nights at Freddy's 4 where Scott really turned up the cryptic angle of the series unnecessarily and most theorists use the SIlver Eyes and the novellas in their theory-crafting so I would say its an understatement that they are overlooked because they aren't at all since they are often used by the FNaF community.
@@jasonallen6918 the issue with thenlore is that there's so much inconsistencies or thirirs made csn just be thrown off by one change in a future game. The lore for the games was honestly better off just ending at fnaf 6 because it would have been a perfect bow , i liked to see the story as Mike going to each pizzariea in order to redo the mess william does, and finally putting it to an end in fnaf 6, setting himself free, his sister free, as well as charlie(Puppet/lefty) and molten freddy. This was a good ending because it truly ended the william saga , and it really was annoying when springtrap came back as springtrap, while vanny didnt et the time to shine, i feel like vanny could have been Afton without afton exactly controlling her
@@jasonallen6918 well in my opinion but I can understand this stuff well tho
scrap baby was just Elizibeth recreating her body best she could with some optimizations specifically for child murder. how she thought she'd get close to kids looking that though? I am not sure.
you should TOTALLy do a redesign/rewrite! i absolutely love your time travel ocs so when i think abt u redesigning/rewriting the fnaf lore i get realll excited
the way you make lore is innovative and smart!!! fr hoping u atleas redesign them 🤞🤞🤞
Hah redesign/rewrite. Not like I’m working on both of those through 2 of my projects.
But I do agree tbh, but Fnaf lore is overly put down imo it’s not as complex as people make it out to be. Ig they’ve never seen the Greek god family tree or the show Once Upon a Time :p
While I am a huge FNAF fan, I do have to admit the lore in the later games is a bit to convoluted and not realistic. I kinda wish FNAF stayed true to it’s darker roots over time. It went mostly Sci-Fi later on. Later games like SL and security breach are not bad aesthetically, and are cool concepts, but the story and gameplay of both are just not that interesting to me. Feel like it was mostly the execution of it all and how suddenly it was introduced.
I agree with a lot of things said in this video. I hope the FNAF movie will return the franchises older elements that made me find it interesting.
Also I gotta say, I love those FNAF 2 designs! Perfect blend between the uncanny, and endearing. Rubber masks remind me of Showbiz animatronics and I personally like that style a lot better then the hard plastic look of the original toys. I’ve never really seen too many redesigns that go for this approach besides Battington and a few others. It’s hardly seen in any fan games though.
Out of all of them I’d have to say the puppet is my fav. Love how you added the clown/jester like appearance to make a more interesting looking design.
(And yes, do that re-design!)
I’ve never been all too interested in fnaf but your art keeps me alive so I am morally obligated to watch this video (which was VERY informative and cool). Thank you for another masterpiece
aw thank you that means so much 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
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U HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD especiually with the security breach and sister location takes. the truely creepy parts of fnaf are when things happen that shouldnt. family friendly animatronics look unsettling and hurt or kill people for unpredictable reasons. dodgy companies taking shortcuts with their equipment and producing faulty and dangeroud machinery makes it all feel so much more possible and that is the part of the franchise that sticks with me as time goes on. i desperately hope that the movie captures that side of it ;w; and i totally agree that the sci-fi stuff,,, like it can be good if done well but paranormal stuff, like ghosts, is scarier when you dont understand it!! thats why its scary!! the unknown factors are what make you feel so unsafe, which goes hand in hand with the aforementioned sketchy, unmaintained suits/animatronics etc. amazing video, i LOVE the art too it really captures the vibe of,, 'these characters or this envirment is meant to be fun and appealing,,, but something is wrong"
in the books i forgot which one but there was a part were ballora literally split a worker in half and his insides were out, and he was alive too and the workers just left him there. heartbreaking
in the books i forgot which one but there was a part were ballora literally split a worker in half and his insides were out, and he was alive too and the workers just left him there. heartbreaking
Tbh my biggest annoyance in the fnaf lore was how Elizabeth was treated because in the Charlie Trilogy and the logbook she just seems so different? She had alot of potential especially when it came to Eleanor possibly being possessed by Elizabeth so if there was one thing that I would change it would probably be her story idk maybe im just biased lmao
I always liked William afton as a villain but man this dude has too many things he can do. He can make animatronics. He can code himself into a game?. He also is able to make a fear gas sorta thing. I hope for the movies they stick to him being a animatronic maker. designing robots to kill kids and stuff cus I find that semi believable and freaky.I also hope they actually explain his motivations to why he kills kids.
I like that movie Afton is just some loser lol
Funny how she apologizes after every opinion she states as if we fnaf fans aren't the biggest fnaf haters and agree with all the hot takes, we just ignore them
Thanks for watching! Sorry some of the text got cut off ugh, i hope you can still read most of it :)
great vid as always!! i love how the animatronics look in ur style!! quick clarification tho- william was caught sometime in the 80s but wasn't arrested as the police couldnt find the children. it's in the news clippings of fnaf 1, kinda sucks but it is what it is
OOOOH i didn’t know that it’s barely mentioned i didn’t know that info was there lol
ty for telling me! 🫶🏻
A common misconception, Scott has gone out of his way to state that he is not canon. It's obvious that the indie dev is a stand in, but he's not just Scott. In fact, the life of this indie developer and how they came to develop the in universe games is shown in one of the many stories of Tales from the Pizzaplex. People debate the books' canonicity constantly, but this is one of those stories that explains/shows something that has no equivalent elsewhere nor contradictions due to similar events from the games.
Another point is that Help Wanted does not make everything before it vaguely capable of any and all retconning. Everything from the games before Help Wanted are still as canon as they were before. One of the hidden tapes in HW even state this exact thing, Fazbear Entertainment is trying to cover up the past as exaggerations or false events through the indie dev and VR title, and that all of these stories and rumors are in fact true. Scott also addressed in the same post about him being canon or not that the reason the games now exist in universe was to explain how all of these characters and events, even established non canon material such as FNaF4's Halloween Edition were able to come together in one singular in universe experience.
It's meant to be confusing with the eventual reveal through the tapes that it's another one of FE's attempts to muddy the past, but most people seem to have either forgotten that tape or simply aren't familiar with it's intention of revealing the canon as still fully intact. I feel it would've been better to not cause such confusion in the first place, but I also haven't ever been in a position to make a mini game collection of various different unconnected events part of a series' canon.
Yeah a lot of what made the franchise popular in the first place is completely gone now. The concept of possessed animatronics is ridiculous, but Scott was able to make the idea feel grounded and creepy through nostalgia, atmosphere, and subtle storytelling. The fact that the series is never able to recapture the atmosphere and horror of the first game is a shame. And as long as the newer games remain canon, I don’t think it possibly can. Scott clearly wanted to move onto something else after the 4th game. The fact that he was willing to retcon the story of the first three games into being just a dream, kinda shows that he didn’t really care about the franchise anymore. But obviously that concept didn’t sit well with fans who spent hours picking apart these games and researching the lore. This was pretty much the first red flag that Scott may have forgotten what this franchise was supposed to be, and why it appealed to so many people. But regardless, Scott clearly wasn’t invested in this franchise anymore, but at the same time, he didn’t want to leave fans with an unsatisfying ending. So he made the game he wanted to make. He made a goofy sci-fi “horror” game and slapped the fnaf brand on it. This is when the franchise lost me. The world no longer felt intriguing or believable. Theorizing about the franchise used to be so special because we genuinely wanted to learn more about this universe that we were so immersed in. The quality of the games was never really brought into question until the 4th game because people were just so immersed in the story to care, and I think that says a lot. Now it just feels like people try to uncover the lore just for the sake of it. Not because we actually care, but because that’s all fnaf really is anymore. It’s a kids franchise with extremely vague lore that will never be solved, because if it was, there would be nothing left to keep people engaged. No horror, no atmosphere, nothing. Anyways, sorry for this rant. I’ve just always been so mind blown by the first three games, and to see the franchise veer so far away from those games is a real shame. Thankfully, I think fans have been able to keep the spirit (no pun intended) of those games alive through vhs tapes, and fan games. I do hope the franchise returns to its roots, but after watching the movie, it seems very unlikely lol. There’s a lot more I could go into, but I might as well just make a yt video rant if i keep going lol. Thank you to those who read this extremely long rant. And great job on the video. You summed up a lot of my thoughts very well, and hopefully more people speak up about the direction of the franchise so we can get back on track. Hopefully Scott hands the franchise over to someone who understands why fnaf became popular in the first place. And hopefully they retcon the new games. It would only be fitting since Scott keeps trying to retcon the old ones lol. And i know it seems like i’ve just been bashing Scott, but I gotta give him credit. I think he did a brilliant job on the first three games. The concepts that he introduced such as the spring-lock suits were extremely creative, and down right brilliant. I just think the problem is that he didn’t want to make fnaf games anymore, so instead of simply making a new series, he just made games that were nothing like what fnaf once was, and just slapped the fnaf brand on it and, tried to tie it into the lore in whatever way he could. Fnaf just became an outlet for Scott to experiment and do whatever tf he wanted, which was obviously never going to work with this franchise.
I do have to say your art is absolutely incredible. Really reminds me of real animatronics. It gives of this uncanny feeling and looks absolutely awesome. I hope the future games dive more into that realistic/ creepy atmosphere the first games gave me.
I just wish Scott would've stuck to the original formula that FNaF 1 brought us, the atmosphere alone was creepy, mysterious, had an old dingy feeling (Like an early 2000s vibe, at least to me). It was perfect, and it still holds up, I think. Either way, I wish it was scary like it used to be, back when the lore wasn't so overcomplicated.
no bc ur so real for this video, remnant and william constantly coming back is when i gave up on the series
Hah “constantly”
He came back like 3 times
(First Fnaf 3 in a Life way, then FFPS, then HW (though it’s more likely that that’s not William), then SB. And if you count the Mimic in ruin. Three or four times.)
@@Sapphire864 three or four times in a franchise with like 8 or 9 ACTUAL games is still like half or a quarter of them, if you ask me, maybe the first one was surprising but honestly i was there for the next ones and they were boring as hell i feel like after two or three times you can call it constantly because lets be honest people coming back from death is not exactly a daily occurrence
@@Sapphire864 Does he have to come back 20 times to be considered a lot?
@@redpanda6497 I’d say 5
@@redpanda6497 plus his very first time saying “I always come back” was his 2nd return :P
I’ve always thought fnaf’s story wasn’t carried by the games but rather dedicated fans who were willing to listen to all this bs. Like I give Scott basically no credit for the story but the community deserves praise for the work they do piecing this stuff together
I adore the art you made!! It’s that perfect blend of Showbiz pizza and slightly liminal imagery. Awesome! ⭐
BROOO thank you so much that means a ton 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
i think Vanny shoukd have been like a crazy fangirl over william to where she basically carries on his crines even though he's dead, it would be a more intresting take on the act of killing the kids because vannys motives would just be to be like william,
I really think the Mimic could work, I mean let's imagine this, an AI which learnt how to mimic victims and victimizers, just put it in a more realistic setting and this would be powerful, like for example instead of a futuristic mall, is a small town restaurant where there aren't animatronics, but employees wearing mascot costumes, and in the night the costumes started to moving on their own because someone or something is wearing them, yiacks
I remember FNAF theories in 2014 - 2015 when there was only the trilogy of the first games. the story was complicated but it was better than now, I personally think it should have ended in the third game even though I liked the fourth game and some others.
I've already seen the film, and I'll tell you, the story is much simpler and semi-realistic to the real world.
I do identify as a FNAF fan but I agree with the majority of your points. I personally think it lost its spark around sister location Michael’s death was confusing and rather boring, like wasn’t it supposed to do something I can’t even remember what cause it didn’t really impact the story. I think it would’ve been more interesting to have William murder him or something, finally getting revenge for the event that lead him down this path and then he would still be around but we could have a new main antagonist. I also agree with security breach it felt like a different franchise in my opinion like it’s just not it for me, I was thinking about how it would be if it was still set in the 80s or 90s; to give some time to set up a new pizza place while letting things run their course cause people must really suck to not care at all about these dead children; and I think it would much more uncanny not only because of the uncanny style but also Gregory could’ve been hiding in a spring locked suit like every moment you would be wondering if it would just snap. The potential!!! Great video! Have a nice day!
Scrapbaby is the scooped endoskeleton of baby separated from Ennard, and the rest of her is junk she used to rebuild her body. Scraptrap, Scott usually designs and redesigns things because he thinks they are cool or scary or he just likes the designs. Toy Chica and Scraptrap are examples which he commented on before. Scott actually outright stated that he is not canon to the games, and that the games exist in the world to explain the non canon characters. Most MatPat criticisms is followed up with reasons why he is wrong I noticed. That aside I think MatPat's theories actively spread misinformation. I would point to no his Mario video as the prime example, with the addition of him admitting he twists information and leaves out important contradicting information to create a narrative using said Mario video as an example.
I feel like Security Breach would have been so much creepier had it been set in something like... the old Lollihop in Munich maybe? I haven't been there in many many years, but I remember the atmosphere clearly
It's an indoor playground kinda thing and actually has some of the things shown in SB! Especially the giant jungle gym really took me back to my childhood. I remember getting lost in it, and set in a horror game that would be TERRIFYING! Looking out the mesh on the sides, seeing where you need to get, but not knowing how to get there? Scaryyy
What really adds even more bullshit (as if we needed anymore) is the existence of the mimic and the shadow animatronics. This is why I personally believe that glitchtrap/burntrap are William Afton and the mimic is just a separate character
It hasn’t made sense for almost a decade now
First of all, what you said aboit Fnaf is so true. I just want an uncanny, small scaled paranormal weird creepy shit back.
Secondly, I LOVE the artwork you made for this video. Its beautifuuul and fits the vibe of the first three games so wellll. So if you ever want to redesign the animatronics, I'll be 100% down for it.
i feel like the problem is that scott should really just let the theorists be right for once!
I’ll be waiting so graciously for those re-design videos 🙇🏻🧸
Personally I love fnaf and the lore doesn’t become an issue if you view security breach as a different continuity like the books or movie. I feel like people tend to forget that the story of the games are supposed to be in the back burner and you can puzzle it together if you want. That’s a part of the fun is the community making their own timelines. Also the story is written in such a fun way using phone guy and mini games. You also gotta realize each game was going to be last in scotts mind - side note I really recommend dawkos interview with Scott if you got the time - so that being said I think Scott did an amazing job making each game for what it is and there’s aspects of the games and story that truly make it the best for me
The video by Bumbles McFumbles is the best explanation of the timeline in my opinion. As it truly shows how little sense it makes.
Did Sister location take place before Fnaf 1? During 4? After 3? Who knows
Subscribed for more information about hamilton and this video gave me reason to continue being subrscribed. Keep up the good work, really enjoying the topics!
I think that alone FNAF SB is an amazing game. It's so cool in concept (it does have it's faults though) but when you consider it's supposed to be part of a HORROR franchise... It all falls apart along with the story. If someone made the concept of FNAF SB as a separate game I think I'd love it so much but it disappoints in the lack of horror
You know this video made me realize something. The animatronics became different forms of scary throughout time. Fredbear and Springbonnie were scary because they didn't know anything, but could kill you. The possessed animatronics know what's going on, but they don't know you, and will kill you if they find you. And the AI-powered SB animatronics know who you are and will hunt to kill you.
They're all scary for different reasons, but fall under similar categories- what they know about whatever is happening, and what they know about you.
I’m in love with your videos 😭
aw thank youuu
remnant feels like midecholrians to me, only worse, explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, except instead of the force, it's the possession of robots by murdered children, like it's a lot creepier and more interesting if there's not some sci-fi bullshit explanation of it
Omg I love the purple guy cosplay sprite!
I absolutely LOVE the rendering style on both of the pieces!! You did such an amazing job making them realistic but also stylized- I can't look away from them omg!!❤
I love your designs so much! They might even look better than their original designs.
my thing abt security breach is that its set in the future with better tech. the intention to be fun entertainment for kids is still there, only now they have the know-how to actually do that. it wouldnt make sense for the glamrocks to have that same uncanny valley edge with how advanced technology would be in the future
Tbf, in the first murder it was raining pretty heavily, you could argue the rain tampered the crime scene
I'm so glad this has been brought up!Honestly stopped the lore after ultimate custom night lolol
I think the reason that micheal was not killed is because the remnant, considering ennard was a combination of all the funtimes put together, its got a bit of dead kid juice in the mix, since the funtimes are essentially just remnant farms (i think? i dont know whats canon and whats theories we all just heavily believe at this point)
your so right about scraptrap and scrapbaby (thought i think her design is cool) i dont really understand why they look like that, i mean scrapbaby has a literally traffic light on her, rollerskates, and a claw hand? maybe she just fixed herself up with random parts lol
i feel like the reason the lore is so loved even though its scattered and stuff is because thats part of the fun and thats why its been alive for so long, and keeps coming back (!? afton reference) even if the scattered-ness is not intentional, its leaves alot of openness for imagination
i agree with you on the security breach thing, and yes sun and moon are really cool. Ruin though, personally, i think its great. i think it was the perfect mix of everything, and ill be honest i cried a few times. I agree with you on the mimic thing, i think its a cool character, but it doesnt really make sense, what is it? also its kind of *COUGH* ugly *COUGH*
thank you for reading my essay
some fnaf fans doesn’t realise that most fnaf game lore is speculation and fanon theories
24:30 when you beat the missing children allegations
Great video! Also, I love your character design (png) you use for your vids!
You see you're absolutely right the lore doesn't make sense, but that won't stop the confidence of Matt pat and his army of Faz fans
12:38 Oh yes. Remnant allegory
love the video!! and you should totally do a redesign video bc scraptrap NEEDS it 😭
fantastic video, great storytelling ❤❤
tysm!!
i felt like scott really wanted to continue the series but it just didnt make sense but still did it for the fans
Late to the party, but the reason why William wasn't caught for the Charlie Murder are many.
First, we don't know home much the Facial System good actually works, also considering that the Fazbear Ent. in not that of a honest company and the possibility that William could tempered the animatronics make me really doubt that will actually work.
Plus, the Charlie Murder happened in a heavy rain night, outside a restaurant, and at the time (IIRC) the Marionette worked using an armlet system to recognize Charlie.
I love the way you did the gang, especially Chica
It definitely has more of that nostalgic vibe of a character in an establishment that kids love but also would terrify the hell outta some kids too
Please keep preaching bc all of this is why I’m making my own personal canon
YES THERE WILL COME SOFT RAINS!! Ive never heard anyone else talk about this short story!! It is my absolute favorite short story because of how unsettled I felt reading it
im one of the people who believe fnaf honestly should have ended at the 3rd of 4th game. the endings in those games make the most sense story-telling wise, but still left things up to interpretation. which is always nice in fandoms revolved around games
The same lore who have facial recognition in the 80s
I totally understand were ur coming from like what the hell humans look what's happening around man we got a guy spilling guts, we got kids going missing every week pay attention watch the news my people but at the same the game is so scattered that people make their own lore and headcannos for being so confused from the cannon game lore I'm like that but overall I love this game and everything about it it's like my fav well one, I am in to Many fandoms bro fav are sundrop moondrop sue me ❤
Justamente estaba pensando en que ya casi me veo todos los videos en tu canal, entonces que hayas subido video me viene perfecto, de paso de Fnaf!!! Amo fnaf y amo tus dibujos, tu estilo es tan hermoso, me siento inspirada por ti 💖💖
There’s been a lot of theory’s and different lore conspiracies popping left and right. At this point, I don’t know what the lore is anymore.
I’m just gonna cross fingers and hope one day Scott will make a post or something about the entire lore.
It’s meant to not make sense, oddly enough. Scott likes (loves, even) leaving people questioning everything. It’s genius, but only for a little while. I think he’s on the edge of “nothing makes sense so I give up on trying to make it make sense”. He’s really pushing it right now but I’ve been a fan for so long so I feel like I *have* to stay. Something in me will not allow me to leave 🥲
I LOVEEEE this video! Thank you for having the guts to point all the flaws out. If you haven’t already, I recommend uhyeah’s rundown of sister location, and wendigoons lore video. They’re both really good imo!
I am really glad you brought up this conversation! Like you, I love FNAF, it has been part of my life for like 5-6 years now, but there are a lot of things I think are problematic or stuff I don’t like. For example, the rouge developer, like you, was a bit “eh” for me, and FNAF security Breach had so much potential that it didn’t do. What I hope moving forward is that they explore the A.I more, how it can affect people’s lives, and maybe even AI art too since that has been so bad recently. Anyway, thank you for sharing with us and stay safe and well! May beautiful colors fill your world! ❤️🌈
this is insanely well edited, thought out and the art is stunning. you're gonna be the next big art CZcamsr for sure. thank you so much for the content and the inspiration!!!
Omg Iove your designs
thank you!!!! 🫶🏻
@@emmasaurtI'm so happy I love your videos
As a person who loved to watch gacha fnaf, the lore isn't that hard to piece together, but then again I stopped following along with fnaf just when secutity breach came out
C.C, Elizabeths and William's deaths are animated on yt somewhere
I'm pretty sure we know the names of the kids in the main 4 animatronics too
Aghh this video is so spot on with everything. I was a fnaf obsessed kid at the time of 1 and 2, started losing interest by 3 and was not there for everything that followed. I'm for sure very biased but I think the first game was the peak of the franchise, made more interesting by leaving the story vague and focusing on atmosphere. Every quality that made me like it got sanded off with each new release...
If you try to put all of the books and the games into one story you would get so many conflicting things that cannot be true simultaneously, and so the only way to make a coherent story is put details into multiple timelines, thus mimic and Glitch-trap is both simultaneously the same and different characters at the same time all depending on what timeline you're going with😑
How mimic and glitchtrap are the same and are different (if it's true) is that glitchtrap is a offspring of Mimic1 (the code) and is but not The Mimic (the animatronic). But with the timelines that's why theories like Stitchline (only stories connected to the stitch wraith stingers) and Talesgames (only tales from the pizzaplex books)
YES FNAF WHOO
This was interesting to listen to, 5 months late ofc lol. But the mention of soft rain was a really good one
I love this video! I love your redesigns and would love to see more. I don't really agree with some of the points you made in the video but I do understand where you are coming from. The lore of these games is definitely a hot mess
I’ve always thought the toy and animatronics were never possessed and I thought I was due to their AI going haywire like phone guy said
your artstyle is like eyecandy, absolutely gorgeous!! ^^
Holy moly!!!!! (I love your videosss)
I’ve always been interested in figuring out the FNAF lore, so a few months back I went and watched an *8 hour long explanation* or nearly everything FNAF that related to the lore. And it was very worth it to me. It actually made sense for the time since in my life lol. It wasn’t from MatPatt cause his theories are kinda… all over the place 😅
I have never been scared of Fnaf which is kind of sad. I wish Scott kept going with the scare and serial killer part of the story. I also believe the story would have been more consistent that way. He should have written the story and branches first before getting into Fnaf 2 and forward as well. I love Sun & moon though; they gave me a creep factor while also interesting me.
The reason FNAF Lore doesn't make sense is due to the fact that it isn't very consistent. We can also see this in the Novels as well.
How come no one found the bodies of the missing children? Human bodies typically begin to decompose within a year, but take up to a decade to completely decompose, leaving only the skeleton. And you thought the terrible smell inside the Anymatronic will give it away? And will the person responsible for repairing the animatornic report the bodies once they are found? Why they built Springlock Suits that can kill anyone inside of it instead of simply making empty costumes. WIlliam Afton got scared like a coward over the children he killed, and went inside his deathtrap of a suit, aware of how dangerous it was, and laughed. The player didn't try to leave to save itself at all even though there were plenty of times when we could, and come back for work knowing how dangerous it was.
Michael Afton aka the Player in Sister Location didn't get out of the Scooper's way despite there being enough room to evade it, and leaved the place in the first place. The Fazbear Entertainment somehow didn't get sued for all of the shady stuff that they did including selling toys that can cut fingers. The Police are shomehow incompetent that a guy can get away with murder several times. The Fazbear's Fright Employees somehow didn't notice that a dead guy was inside Springtrap. The designed for the buildings are so poorly design that the faulty wiring makes the whole place catch on fire and to move in Sister Location you have to uses the ventilation.
Scott maybe is a decent game designer, but he is poor at Literature.
Me and so many others agree with you on everything I would love to see your own redesigns btw love the video
Make a lot of good points & it makes me curious on how things could be if edited & fixed
As much as I love Glamrock Freddy & enjoy the scenery in Security Breach the game has issues. There is unused audio that shows for whatever reason Vanessa's personality was changed last minute.
The fact the movie is more understandable & it's a different universe to the games.
I'm rambling & getting lost but it'd be nice to see things work if a more understandable lore fix happened. Like you said.
I love yer shading style sm
I adore your first drawing, so so so much. Love the lighting, colors, DESIGN. I love seeing semi normal girl artists rant about fnaf or markiplier or games in general, because no one does it. Also you’re very talented, I really hope to see more fnaf content from you. You earned a subscriber fs👍
YAY NEW VID!!
Please do the redesign video!! Your speedpaints were sick!! :D
Also as a huge fnaf fan myself I’d mostly agree on the Security Breach part. Yeah-
Though I still think the Mimic is cool the games are just soo underwhelming fr
19:00 my theory on scrap baby: for her moving faster, she actually had built in roller skates so that it doesnt make so frikin sound when she walks. the claw is probs the one she captured elizabeth with and the hair.. well uh... we dont talk about it :DD
yippie!!!!!!
good god your art is gorgeous
Honestly I would have just rewrite the lore to make it less complex and more realistic but still try to fix the source material. I did have several ideas but at the same time, there are a lot of cool rewrites out there that are really good. However I’m interested if you had any ideas of how you would rewrite the lore.
20:43 Scott Cawthon himself confirmed in a Reddit post that the rogue indie dev is NOT him.