Biomedical Sciences is NOT an alternative to Medicine: what I wish I knew + advice
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Hey guys, so this video came about after a couple of Sixth formers asked me how easy it would be to get into medicine after doing biomed, so this is my response. Now, this is based on my and my friends' experiences, so it may be different for you, but just take what I said into consideration.
To find accredited Biomedical Science degrees: www.ibms.org/resources/docume...
This for accredited degrees, however, if you are looking to be a Biomedical Scientist and practice as such then I HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend that you do a sandwich course as this will mean that you can get you HCPC certificate without so many hurdles.
Universities that offer foundation courses:
www.themedicportal.com/applic...
Medicine and clearing:
www.themedicportal.com/applic....
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Girl u saved me literally just put down biomedical science on ucas as a route to do medicine bout to go take it right off. Your giving me more facts and info then my own teachers!!
After watching your video I literally started crying because I got scared, but at the same time I think that PERSEVERANCE is key if you wanna do what you love and obviously be competitive, even if that is by getting rejected at some point. Thank you so much for those words because it is a REALISTIC point of view and telling us (students that have applied for BioMed to get into a medical school after) that it will be hard, but not impossible. 💚💚💚
I'm about to finish my first year of Biomedicine, and this couldn't have come at a better time!
Changing my course right away.
Well said... We need more honest people like you... Biomed is really NOT like medicine at alllll
have you applied?
In first year you have to observe all biomedicine courses of five years and after post graduate you have give opportunity to research your mind concept and create advancement in the world several and several people's degrade and disheart you but you don't loss hope dear
This was so informative! There was so much I didn't realise like doing an accredited course etc, so helpful Kpando ❤❤
this is very important thanks for sharing
Thank you for this knowledge shared. It has really opened my perspective about biomedical science.
Precisely what I've been through as a biomedical science student in Ghana. I count myself lucky to be in medical school now. Will gladly recommend this content to all.
Which school please
Hello
Medical Physiology and therapeutics at university of Nottingham, such a great undergrad to prep you for medicine and PA x
Finally someone honest who tells the truth!
Thank you so so much for the video! I think the video is very informative, realistic and inspiring. After watching this video I immediately subscribe!
Pls pls continue making more videos
Loved the video, very informative and helpful! Quick question though, is it a good idea to do biology (undergraduate) and then go into medicine?
Biology is a science degree therefore you can still apply to medicine, it would be the same for any science degree. The competition rate is just high
hi do you think that if i'm interested in med research, taking medsci & then finding out what i'm super interested in , e.g immunology, pathology microbiology etcetc, and then taking further studies in that area i am interested after my bachelors would be a good idea??
great video. this might be a sensitive topic, but how about the fees? how were you able to afford everything?
Hi, I know this video was posted 2 years ago, but for students wanting to take biomed to go on and do medicine, would you advice taking a bachelors or a masters degree in biomed?
Hi I loved your video! I need some advice please. I am equivalent to an a level student but in Ireland. I wanted to go for medicine but did not do very well in the HPAT (UCAT). In round one of offers I was offered Genetics and Molecular Biology in a college that wasn’t my first choice. Tomorrow are around two offers and I’m hoping I’m offered Biomed. Do you recommend I stick with the first offer or go into biomed for the first year. I plan on resitting my HPAT again in Feb to go into first year Med next year.
I'm a Biomedical Science graduate, and it infuriates me the number of prospective medical students taking up placement opportunities from those who actually wanted to be registered scientists. If you know you're going to study medicine just do the 3 year degree and learn the scientific content. You won't learn clinical content on a BMS degree but you will have a good scientific foundation.
I'm just going through the HCPC registration process (a year after graduating) but I had to take a job as a band 2 and prove myself.
Hey,could you please help me out
did u do any masters??
and can we go into research directly after masters??
Yeah I feel like if you do medicine you should actually do it to become a doctor otherwise you’re taking spots of people who actually want to become a doctor
@@nehafathima6523 at the time I wasn’t doing my masters but I’m currently doing my MSc alongside full time employment.
hello! may i ask if biomedical science the same as medical science? because i've been searching but i'm still as confused as ever!! it would mean so much if someone answered, thank you
I am also asking same question
Honestly as someone who is planning to go into Bio-med from BTEC Applied science and then into medicine, it seems very daunting but this video was really motivational :). I also would like to know what "clearing" is.
Clearing occurs after Alevel results day where students can apply to last minute places for courses if they get the grades (for some degrees), or didn't receive a place at uni when they applied through ucas or failed to meet the requirements of their first choice so they have to find another uni to go to as their first choice rejected them.
Hi, I’m in the exact same situation as you and with the ucas deadline being tomorrow I am completely torn!! What did you end up doing then? Is bio-med still an option for you? Sorry if this sounds weird lmao XD
@@saran4714 OMG IM IN THIS SITUATION RN!!! I’ve been stressing outttt!!!! My ucas deadline is Monday and I can’t even do my personal statement because I don’t know what I’m going to do
PLEASEEE TELL ME WHAT U DID!
@@liza4757 @Sara N Hi, I ended up doing bio-med and I'm currently in my first year. I know that it'll be a challenging path to medicine but I'm willing to take that risk and try my best. Goodluck in whatever you end up doing, I hope you achieve your dreams.
I like how you mentioned that you can find other science related fields/majors apart from biomedical science. However, I was just wondering...Would you happen to know if its a fact or not that Biomedical Engineering graduates have a slight advantage over Biomedical Science grads when it comes to applying for med school?
In my opinion not really, most universities just want a science based degree with a 2:1 or above - its doesn't really matter which one you do
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm Sweet. Thank you
was your Biomedical sciences degree accredited or unaccredited and did that matter when you were applying for medicine?
THANK YOUUUUU💙💙💙 Saved me
Hey, I was thinking of doing biomed for a year and transferring. Is it more competitive to apply after a year of Biomed than to take a gap year?
Hi thank you for the informative video and Chanel.
Do you know how widely accepted access to medicine is to get onto a medicine degree in the U.K. ?
Thanks for the tips! Any advice on other undergraduates I could do instead of biomed? Because now I'm stuck :/
there are quite a few for example Biochemistry, biology, medical genetics, neuroscience, psychology etc. You can also look at some universities you're interested in and check what kinds of Science degree they Offer.
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm nursing?
I wanted to go to radiation science course. Could you tell us which course u eventually applied to?
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm Wow.I didn't know you can actually do neuroscience as an undergraduate degree.
Which one is best biotechnology or biomedical sciences please somebody help?
Hi sis! I'm about to study cancer biology and immunology because I got rejected from med. I always wanted to become an oncologist. So I thought it would be interesting to study cancer biology and immunology. Can u give me some suggestion? Please help me to get through this confusion 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very good & very informative 👍👍👍
I venture to say that Biomedical Science is a good choice on it's own because we need analysis of human samples.
Like Nursing it can become a path that can lead to Medecine.
With Biomedecine we could not detect the Covid19 situation.
God save us all today in 2021,
Biomedical science is a much wider field than that. The majority of people won’t work in hospital labs. They’ll work in the biotech industry.
Would you actually recommend going medicine if lets say I got a very low ranked uni overseas like Tasmania or go to a top sch for Biomed ? I also applied to Queen Mary Biomedical sciences :)
Thank you very much for this girl
Please tell me can we do a degree in nursing instead of biomedical science degree??is it good or bad??pleeesee reply
There is no good or bad route to get into medicine as a graduate. It is hard anyway to get in.😭
Nursing is an incredibly difficult degree that takes alot of dedication- Of course you will be at a slight advantage doing nursing, however, im my opinion, I don't think you should go into Nursing If your ultimate goal is Medicine.
You should do Nursing If you want to be a nurse - they are the backbones of health care and we would be lost without them.😊💫
I was thinking of doing biomed and then medicine as for personal reasons I thought this would be easier but apparently not lmao. Instead I might just apply for biomed, and then if I get medicine standard grades, do a gap year after yr 13 and apply for medicine the next year? instead of biomed? Would you recommend this as I kinda need advice :) also i hope this makes sense??
Have you looked at medicine degrees with foundation years? For example Kings have a really good foundation programme. I woukd say have a look at those, then see what the requirements are and if you meet them. If you don't, I think yeah, do apply for biomed (if you wish), if you get the grades then DEFINITELY take a gap year and reapply for medicine. Did you do the UCAT by any chance? If you did, and you get the grades in summer , regardless of what degree you apply for, you can see try and see if any unis offer medicine throug clearing. Just know that the biomed route is going to be hard!
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm I haven't done ucat bc I wasn't going to take the medicine route initially. After more research I think maybe it would be a good option, I am interested in Biomed too so it wouldn't bother me to take it at uni, I'm just worried about job prospects with the degree. Tysm for your help and your video, it really gave me a clear insight!
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm If Biomed route is hard to medicine, which route is then easier?
@@theigbotruth There really is no 'easy' route to medicine. There is just a misconception that doing biomed will make it easier to get into medicine.
When you say accredited, this is specifically for the profession of a medical laboratory scientist, ie to practice in the sector. There are other degrees that are accredited by e.g. the Royal Society of Biology that are absolutely fine but not intended for those wanting to be a practitioner in a medical laboratory. They are more suitable for the academics looking to do e.g. biomedical research (which is not an outcome for which the IBMS accreditation is intended). So it is a complicated bag and can be hard to navigate. As you say, there are a limited number of biomedical laboratory scientist posts available each year and it is hard to get placements. As a provider of degrees accredited by RSB (but not IBMS) we see a significant number go on to do medicine as graduates. The skills and entry requirements for medicine (personal attributes rather than grades) are very different to an academic or practical science degree and graduate routes into medicine can come from almost any route.
I am the 1st year student of bsc international wildlife biology at university of southwales....so can I do a medicine after my graduation
Omg, I remember watching this two years ago. I did a career quiz and my top choice was biomedical sciences. I ended up applying for medicine anyway this year lol
how do you find work experience whilst studying undergraduate? x
Love the hua tao profile pic😌
What are some degrees you can take in college to branch off into the medical school?
@KPANDO do you mind explaining the whole "clearing" process. I'm so lost
Clearing is a way for universities to fill up spaces in the course for example each university needs a certain amount of students that apply for a course to keep the course going so clearing is used to fill it up and helps people that may have not gotten good grades you apply for a course and calling unis and researching and they will let you know if the qualifications you have are ok for the course. Clearing may accept you for lower entry requirements
hi, what would be your advice for student who had a long break from studies and starting biomedical science?
Hi! First thing I would highly recommend is to read the course content. Reading the course content will set you up so you know exactly what you're going to that semester. Secondly, plan ahead, if you sre planning to work while studying, know that you will need to designate between 20-30hrs a week for studying and lectures. Thirdly, get into a school routine before you go back, you'll probably have alot of 9am lectures when you start, so getting up early should become a habit, also make a weekly priorities routine, to help you determine all your priorities for the week, so you have all your bases covered. Finally, find what recommend books each module requires so that you can take them out from your university library, this will save you alot of money so you don't buy any books (especially for anatomy).
The last thing, enjoy first year!! This is going to be the easiest year so make sure you give time for yourself to prevent burnout! Good luck 😊
Kpando please can you do a video on this. I’m starting in two weeks and I’m so scared cause I feel like during the quarantine period I didn’t revise like I should’ve and I’m scared biomed will be very scary
Do you mind me asking what med school you got accepted for in Europe, really thinking about studying medicine abroad rn
Dnipropetrovsk Medical Institute of Traditional and Alternative Medicine
If you do biomedical sciences without an accredited degree can you still move on to do medicine?
Yes you can, accreditation is only if you want to become a biomedical scientist and work in the nhs
What If i ain’t wanna pursue medicine after … if i wanna do something medical field apart from medicine.. should i still go for biomedical science.. then which allied health science field should i pursue
do you mind sharing what unis you looked at fo studying med abroad x
when you went through clearing, what did they ask for? eg uni grade, alevels, gcse, ucat/gamsat??
clearing as a graduate i mean
Most universities ask for minimum 2:1 in your degree, they look at a level (AAB for most unis), but GCSES don't matter as much if you have a degree. Depending on the uni you sre applying to, you will either have to do the UCAT, gamsat or both ( i did both)
OH NO I WATCHED THIS TOO LATE😭 I’ve alr applied for biomedical science at Manchester university. I want to ask if I have to finish the entire course before transferring to medicine, or can I try to transfer in my first or second year? Thankss
Hi. I heard that you can transfer after finishing your first year bcz the subjects are the same as medicine. All the best
I would have thought that you can definitely NOT transfer... otherwise every single medical wannabe would be doing the same thing... Best to call the uni and ask them
Do you quite feel your biomedical degree could possibly assist you in anyway as a doctor?
Honestly, yes and no. The things I learnt in biomed that translated into medicine was being able to think critically, keeping calm under pressure and knowing my limits when it came to my knowledge and skills. But those were things I would have learnt anyway later in medical school, I just happen to have those skills before I started medicine.
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm I think that the foundation modules for Biomed and Medicine is almost the same in the first two years. Basically, you learn identical things in the first year. So it would definitely help a lot.
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I want to know what exactly does a biomedical technology students have to do in job field ??
Is biomedical laboratory science a good choice? How is the job opportunities
I'm going to do a biomedical degree, can you tell me is it good or bad ?
I wanna become a med scientist and I genuinely don’t know which way is the one to go. I’m lost, I wanted med at first but then I realised my love to scientific knowledge and investigation.
Now pls can u tell me what to do I need advices
Then I think it would be wise to do a general search of different types of science degrees and read what they are about and if any interest you then delve deeper into that part of the science , that's a good start
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm oh omg thank uuu so much ❤️
You could always start researching the MD/PhD route. It allows you to be a practicing physician and conduct your own clinical research
@@e.f.665 That is a US specific route. In UK it would be BSc (Hons) in a science degree, then either MSc followed by PhD or straight into PhD. A Masters can be good in broadening your skill set as a science degree will still have a limited skill set as there is only so much you can learn in 4 years.
Do you think it’s better to take a gap year and reapply x?
If you got the grades then DEFINITELY!
Hey where do we find the list of acredited uni’s?
The link is in my bio
I really want to choose biomed in uni however I’m just afraid I won’t find a job afterwards, and I don’t want to do other courses afterwards. What are you planning on doing afterwards?
Samee.. What did u plan?
@@imantahir138 I’ve decided I’m not going with biomed as I’m not guaranteed employment ):
@@Aqsafz oh okay.. I decided biomed.. Since i didnt had any other better options than biomed
@@imantahir138 pharmacy or optom maybe?
I’m going to do masters after and become a research scientist
i have recently completed my a level on 3 science subject without math... which bachelor degree will be best for me (planning to go in Australia) .. plz reply 🙏🙏
The one you enjoy and can develop yourself through taking. Though a lack of maths can be a bit of a handicap in science degrees.
Is this the same for biomedicine course?
what about nursing then to med?
I’m thinking of taking biomedical science
How can I find out if the institution is accredited to ISBS.
Was the clearing for the 5 year undergrad course?
Yes it was, graduate medicine NEVER goes on clearing because it is so competitive, spaces WILL be filled up
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm Thanks for replying! Is it hard to get through clearing as a graduate? Do you know how many clearing places there are at St George's?
@@tufayelmiah7969 apparently, its really hard 😅, but I didn't find the process difficult at all (maybe because I had so much experience). I got my place a day after my interview. I don't know how many places are offered through clearing
How many years does it take in total to finish medicine and biomedicine?
3 year biomed and 4 year of medicine so in total 7 years💀💀💀
Can we do MD after doing bs in biomedical science?
Can u recommend me some websites to grab all about biomedical sciences
Can you use Biomedical sciences as a bridging course into Biomedical Engineering?
As far as I know yes, but the undergrad for Biomed engineering is biomedical mathematical sciences
You can just take Biomedical Engineering BSc
You can go straight into Biomedical Engineering BSc at Dundee. Biomedical engineering is however very different to biomedical sciences and there is much less overlap than you might expect.
Sistah! Is Biomedical sciences and Biomedical engineering the same thing??
Biomedical engineering is manufacturing machinery for biomedical purposes E.g prosthetics, x-ray machines, hospital equipment etc. biomedical science is learning the anatomy and biochemistry of the human body (you may also go over some pharmacology and neurology in your degree). These skills can be used to become a biomedical researcher (E.g cancer research scientist) or work in a hospital laboratory as a phlebotomist or something similar. Hope this helps.
I am Aware of passion but I need to know which is better between biomedical science vs pharmacy
pharmacy
U looks so beautiful😍😍 remembering of barbie from barbie big dream big city movie😍😍😍😍😍
please help me pick one which is better between studying medicine and surgery in nigeria OR medical sciences in the UK
UK!
Do your medicine and surgery degree! You can come and work in the uk later, get the medical degree done!
Wished I had this video 3 years ago. 😢
What's the duration of medicines after Biomedical graduate???
4 years graduate programme
Plse what are the job opportunities as a biomedical scientist
Can you get into dermatology after doing biomed?
you would have to do medicine first before pursuing dermatology
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm arghh okiii ty 💜
ARMYYYY
Wanna add a few things:
If you are interested in doing research in healthcare in general (clinical metanalysis, interventions papers etc.) NOT DOING MEDICINE is the biggest limiter. You basically will not have access to patients, databases, if they put in these papers usually will not be as main atuhros etc. + with specialization you basically vomit papers after papers each year, and then when doing a phd you can exploit all your past network and accumulate even more papers. And this applies even if you go to biological research, a MD can go almost in any bio fields ( aka has way more opportunities) than bios! Cause Biologist or similar CANNOT reach thousands of PHD opportunities that are for MD.
And if you don't like research you have way more opportunities in industries (clinical trials, pharmacology etc.) compared to a biologist or similar.
Your image as MD is by default (to the public, and so to the money distributed) way more valued than a bio degree (cause they are seemed as more distant from people touch/ problems). + you can always consult + you are not limited to be a nutritionist like biologist have to if they find that labs sucks. And a nutritionist without MD can't even diagnose...
Overall a MD is the perfect opportunity to go for both clinical and basic research, and is even better for administrative jobs or similar. is just on another level of play compared to all the rest. Always has been and it always remain.
The only partial edge that biologists have is in eveolutionary biology or if they are molecular biologist in NON CLINICAL (but every research tends to be cause money). So basically pure lab and 0 patients.
But the edge is still way low in income and the rest.
I suggest people here in US to consider looking at MD programs in europe cause they are way more cheap compared to your usual tuition fees.
AH! if you can do a MD/PHD ofc try to do that! you are gonna have no life anyway with the regular MD, better to have also a PHD (aka, be payed) with it.
This may be true in US but is certainly not true in Europe. The education and progression systems are very different.
If we study abroad how is that funded? Do we have to fund by ourselves
When I did my research a few years ago, you have to self fund it but I would check again just to make sure
Do u recommend doing biomed for life and not following the medicine path?
It depends on what your end goal is. As BIOMEDICAL SCIENTIST, in my opinion there is not alot of progress, but if you do biomed and move to a speciality or something similar then you have more choices. It all boils down to what you see yourself as , in the future.
Also make sure the university is accredited by IBMS! Do a sandwich course as well, as that's pretty much the only way you can progress as a biomed scientist - the link is in the description
Can you study Medical Human Physiology and get into medicine 👍🏽thank for the clarity , really informative 😊
Late response but yes you can
@Daniel could you elaborate please
@@leratotaunyane1018 You can study any degree and then apply for medicine. There are many routes post first degree into medicine, but it is very competitive and in UK has a restricted number of places.
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if u were me , would u picked science biomedical or physiotherapy ?
Maaf, tapi nk bagi pendpt blehhh🤭
@@bismillahtorinjani of course bolehh !
How much work experience did u have to do before applying for medicine?
I had alot of work experience spanning 2/ 3 years. I spent | week in orthopaedics , both surgery and outpatient. I spent 1 week in Generals, I week in maxfax, 1 week in GP. I also worked in a care home as a care assistant and worked in a hospital as an acute medicine healthcare assistant for 1 year. I'm very lucky because the doctors that I emailed were happy to take me on. But you don't have to have as much experience as I had.
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm And Warwick still rejected you!? Man that's crazy 😳
@@tufayelmiah7969 I know right?! 😭
And it was Warwick that specifically asked for the hours of work experience I had + evidence of that 🥴🙃
@@Lifeofamedicalbookworm Warwick has the strictest work experience requirements in the UK! I'm actually baffled that you did not get in with all of these experiences. Kinda demotivating too. It must be because your UCAT did not meet the cut off? Or perhaps your verbal reasoning was low. They need at least 600 on VR. Do you mind telling me how you've done on UCAT?
@@tufayelmiah7969 I got an interview, i got rejected after. I probably just didn't answer the questions the way they wanted 🤷🏾♀️
Is biomedical science degree good because I’ve failed 1st yr of pharmacy and I don’t want to redo it now 😂 ?
It really depends on what you like studying. There are many science related degrees such as bio chem, medical genetics etc. I think it would be best to research the different science degrees your uni has to offer, look at the course structure and modules and decided if you are interested in it.
What is she saying at 2:21?
What is clearing?
Why is the biomed route hard to get into medicine?
Because it is extremely competitive to get transferred from biomedical to medicine.
A lot of people want choose biomed as an alternative to get into medicine.
@@unknown.8610 no I mean go into medicine after biomedical sciences
Your profile picture is weird
@@rishigembali6066 Its hard to get in postgraduate because alot more people want to do it after graduation, there is no limit to what u study when u already have a degree therefore more people apply. Ask google u will find your answer.
@@unknown.8610 you can still apply to undergraduate medicine as a graduate
What is the easiest Medical Degree to pass?
It is subjective to different people since different people find different topics easy, you can find more information online
Hey, which uni do you study medicine in?
St George's University of London
Pick a degree that interests you to be honest.
Yesss! I regret it- probably the most useless degree out there
You wanna do maxfax, jeeez the determination!
Me who’s going into architecture field: interesting 🤔
😂😂😂
Same but I'm interested in optometry 😅😁