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- Case ########-11 Considerations of the Flesh. Recorded by The Archivist, in Situ.
Content warnings: Major/graphic body horror - Character death; Vocalised suffering & screams/pain (SFX) - Dysmorphia - Anorexia - Toxic beauty standards - Unhealthy bodybuilding; Plastic surgery addiction; Body modification - Mortality / Existential dread - Physical disorders / Chronic illness - Paralysis - Self-harm / Suicidal ideation - Loud noises
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Jared trying to mock Jon and Martin by asking if they’re boyfriends and Jon going “yes, actually” MADE MY DAY. Thank you for that 😌
Best romance ever
3:27
that must have felt so good for martin to hear after last episode
I was expecting many things from the flesh realm ...
Not Jared going cottagecore
cottagegore
@@screaminggecko7660 yess
Fleshcore?
@@screaminggecko7660 I want to steal this and make it a Thing
@@screaminggecko7660 i have found a new favorite aesthetic
Apocalypse boyfriends taking a stroll through a meat garden and ending homophobic gym bully existence to spice things up.
10/10, very romantic
Glorious
Verili and Dante vibes
if you don't do this with your partner, are you even in love?
We love ending homophobic gym bullies while having a date in the meat garden
3:28 Jared Hopworth, attempting to make a homophobic joke. And backfiring, so he just sheepishly changes the subject.
Ah, classic.
"WhO's ThIs, YoUr BOYFRIEND??"
"yes"
"...oh"
@@broblerone413he was too stunned to speak
like how The Flesh episode, as gruesome as always, is basically "here's some tips on gardening but if the plants were people that hated themselves"
everytime Jon smites a monster I can only hear *ceaseless watcher turn your GAYS upon this thing*
And indeed, the Ceaseless Watcher did turn its finest gays upon the thing
😂😂😂😂
And now me as well lol
STOP THATS ALL IM GONNA HEAR NOW
'Alexander J Newall as Martin Blackwood and Jared Hopworth'
WHAT
EXCUSE ME
Yep.
Alex is a god at voice acting, it would seem
that must have been fun to record
what whu huh how?!!?
Really funny story. They had originally someone else meant for the role, but they could never get scheduling done properly. The time came and passed and so the only thing they could do was for Alex to do the original voice and come back as needed.
I love how Jon was all like "well yes actually, this is my boyfriend. What are you gonna do about it?"
It's so sweet how Martin's stammering and Jon cuts in definitively like that. Particularly... so soon after the Lonely episode ;_;
YESSSSSS. And also the way Jared's response is just a quick "Oh." and then no further comment is made about it. Like "Oh, okay. I wasn't expecting that but okay. No judgement here."
@@twigthetroll9279 he might be an eldritch abomination, but he's not a _monster_
Right it’s like the fucking best
Call me gay??
"who's that your boyfriend?"
"actually yes"
Boys I am proud to say that soon there will be a wedding the wedding of Mahtin Blackwood and Jonathan Sins what I am trying to say *I LOVE EM THEY ARE SO CUTE*
JFJSKDJDLS "MAHTIN" CRYING
I LITERALLY CAME HERE TO COMMENT THAT lmao
"Jonathan Sins"
His response was great. "...oh."
I mean... They basically are honeymooning through the Apocalypse 😳
Jared: *speaks*
Me: oh nonono noooo, I forgot
second episode to date I needed the transcribe for (first was Jared's testimony)
Same
Now THIS comment made me laugh 🤣 mooooood
its cuz hes played by alexander j newall and they cant have him sound too similar to martin.
Huh. The Flesh also feeds on self-loathing. That's a really interesting facet that I hadn't considered before, but it makes a lot of sense. It's only a short distance from being afraid that we're mere meat to being afraid that *your* meat is worse.
It’s like anorexia, but cutting off bits of yourself instead of staving yourself
It feeds the feeling that your flesh isn't correct.
"afraid that your meat is worse"
the hatred of ones body, the thought that ones natural self is wrong
Forget zodiac signs, game of thrones and hogwarts houses,
What is *your* Mortal Garden flower?
Lilly of the damned if I'm honest
What about you?
Gristlebloom Orchid, or Lily of the Damned, depending on the situation
Lilly of the damned unfortunately
@@cieniolubnasame
Bone rose and or Lily of the Damned
Wait, you're telling me sweet, voice of a squishy angel Alex Newall was the voice of Jared Hopworth THIS WHOLE TIME?!
Yep 🥺
Lol I keep forgetting, someone said it ima. Previous episode but I completely forgot lol
Look up his AMA vid on ytb, another voice crime in here. This man has some crazy vocal chords
Blasphemy! (But also damn impressive)
Voice acting is amazing
This one is heartbreaking. Jared, at his core, is the avatar of body dismorphia. Honestly, Jon, did you really need vengeance for the rib? It was payment for services rendered, and hell, he even offered to give it back. Jared is evil but so is everything else now, and honestly, for a point of comparison, cop-daisy wasn't exactly anybody's hero either. Imagine how rare mercy is in the world as it is now.
I don't think it was revenge, really. I don't know exactly how to put my thoughts on it, but it felt like something between a mercy and a compulsion.
I don't even think it was for the rib maybe a little but like Martin said there evil awful things that only care about hurting people
@@lucassevey5989 Yeah, he's killed like over 20 to 40 people if I remember right. Any mercy for Jared for me died when he killed the like, maybe 3rd person. But these are monsters now. They feed off of people's fear and anxiety. His presence here is proof of that. One fewer avatar that kills people is one fewer murderer. No one else can physically hurt these beings and enact some kind of justice.
It's interesting how The Flesh seems to tie in with body dysmorphia...... It has now moved up to second place on the list of Powers That Would Make A Nice Snack Out Of Me
It may be number one now actually.... I always thought The Lonely would be the one to grab me but I felt this episode in my soul and it was terrifying
@@elliottgaylord6212 same
@@elliottgaylord6212 This is my third listen through and when mixed with my bad head, it gave me the most delicious panic attack. When the time comes, I think I'll just make a deal with The End and vibe with Oli.
That or, at this point, I'd probably be passed around each entity.
I really wanna SEE this episode. Like, watch it. I wanna see what's happening and it's driving me crazy.
If I ever get back into drawing it would be fun to make an animatic for it. I have some very specific ideas over how everything looks and designs for plants not even mentioned. Like some spiky, Lupine inspired flowers where the blossoms are teeth. When I used to draw, monsters and body horror were my favorite things to sketch so this episode would be a fun way to get back into it.
@@pLanetstarBerry If you end up doing this, please please share it! Body horror scares me more than anything, so this episode left to my imagination was not easy to listen to. However, the concept is so interesting that I would love to see others' interpretations!
@@pLanetstarBerry YES I will SO watch that
@@pLanetstarBerry So did you ever get around to making it? I still seriously would love to see an animation of this...
same i've never wanted to see an episode more than this one (i mean, except for maybe the Unknowing one)
Episodes that makes me thankful for this being only a podcast:
Why do I imagine Jared just sitting there all happy as Jon Talks?
Edit: I am also internally screaming this entire episode.
i imagine him sitting cross-legged with his eyes closed, all serene and shit
I imagined him sitting on some nearby ledge swinging his leg smiling and all
Jon: prepare to be smote
Jared: Ok big bro but before you and your boyfriend kill me can you tell me another bedtime story
Jon: sure buddy _pulls open the goremanac_
@@broblerone413 a small fleshy butterfly lands on his finger, and he brings it up to his face to look at it, and it just, like, screams, and flies off
Picture him also wearing gardener clothes hat included while munching on a bone and going "yerp that's how you dur it" as Jon describes the making of these horrid flowers
Man, those Jared episodes really make the transcripts worthwhile for non-native speakers!
and for native English speakers with audio difficulties! :)
Literally
As a Portuguese speaker (Brazil), agreed!
I like to imagine that the mouth whistling and the mouth he speaks from are different mouths.
Gonna ask Jared to give me top surgery
(And 4 arms)
jared for transmascs
YEESSS ✌️Emby tho
I feel so damn called out, lol. On the bright side, he probably wouldn't ask much in return since he already gets to keep the bits for himself.
"this? why yes, I met a flesh collecting monster behind a popeye's last night and he took them off FOR FREE. and check out, no need for after care! magically sealed :))))) this? why yes, silly, all non binaries have bending ribcages, comes with the deal ! hahah :)))))"
Cheers to that
why isn't Martin more worried at the "Ceasless Watcher, drink your fill!" thing skskfhksd
i mean.... can u blame him? kinda hot ngl 👀
The world has just ended and everything has gone to hell, sometimes you take the weapons you can get. And I think Martin by now actually enjoys seeing the people suffer that did such terrible things to him and others. I doubt he is still really sane
Plus Martin saw John smite two other avatars, and he said he didn't have a problem with taking down evil avatars that were torturing people
You mean kill-This-man-because-I-am-jealous Martin? Going all kill bill was his idea.
Uh probably because Martin is also loopy
I know I would be if I was stuck in a Lovecraftian hellscape
this episode was so cottagecore!!!
ghfhfj jared's a cottagecore softboy
Please keep the flesh garden far, far away from cottage core
@@glumbortango7182 idk man, flesh garden seems pretty cottage core to me
...yep
Freaky cottage core but still
@Topple This. This is the comment. We can end the internet now.
My interpretations of the victims:
Reese/Gristle Bloom Orchid:
Insecure & self-hatred
Patricia/Bone Rose:
Anorexia
Cutaway Tulip:
Plastic surgery addiction
Maeve/Lily of the Damned:
Over awareness of body and body dysmorphia
My interpretation:
Gristle bloom:
It seems to get bigger and bigger to take over everything. So I'd imagine body dysmorphia for getting swole.
Bone rose: obsession with perfection and plastic surgery. Always requiring immense effort to keep up or your ego "shatters".
Cutaway tulip: fear of aging and the degradation of your appearance associated. It's stated it gets harder to manage the bigger (older) it gets.
Lily of the damned: fear of injury and mortality related to your own biology.
I'm somewhere in the middle of you two but I think all of the flowers represent different kinds of dysmorphia. The gristlebloom orchid seems like a direct analog for the kind that gymbro-types feel with their sensitivity for being perceived as "small". The bonerose stands in for the opposite kind of dysmorphia, that feeling of "too large"-ness that results in disorders like anorexia and bulimia. The cutaway tulip is the kind of dysmorphia that only body modification feels like the solution to (which gets increasingly intensive as the body ages, as it gets harder to fight against your body's natural aging processes). And the lily of the damned is the dysmorphic horror that comes from reducing a person's mind? soul? being? down to just a body, or maybe the horror of feeling a disconnect between body and mind? This last one was kinda open-ended
Man I think this was one of the episodes that really got me
I’ve always thought of it like this
Gristlebloom: the strive to always be bigger, better, stronger, even if it destroys you you will do anything to be as strong as you think you need to be which turns out to be a never ending ladder of striving for an ever higher definition of perfection.
Like the other commenter i feel it relates strongly to gymbros and this relatively new heavy pressure on men to be the best they can in both looks and strength and anything less is wrong and weak
Bone rose: I have no better way to describe this than anorexia, or bulimia, or any other eating disorder that’s makes you want to do nothing more than get smaller and smaller and smaller until you finally reach a standard you are happy with, or you die.
Cutaway tulip: the want to be something other than you are, you don’t know what, unlike the gristlebloom wants to be stronger and the bone rose wants to be smaller, it just wants to be something else in no particular direction than away from what it currently is, and it will maim and bite and claw and cut until it is finally happy with its form, until it grows tired of that one and begins its cycle again.
Lily of the Damned: the want to be nothing, not to be dead but to be nothing. The pure hatred of existence in any other way than in mind and soul. For no particular reason does it hate its form so, it just hates it has a form to begin with and has no choice but to live and be stuck with it, or to die and be utterly gone in each and every way.
Jared Hopworth is such an interesting character. He's like, the jobber of the flesh. He'll work with anyone, for anyone and even doesn't mind dying all that much.
Unlike any of the others he doesn't beg, not even a bit, just asks if it can be prevented and accepts it when Jon says it can't.
For Jared I think it's about the work. He's found his happiness in what he does and doesn't seem to like getting involved with the others on a big picture scale. Even when he was hired to kill them he decided it would be too much bother.
Easily and strangely the most agreeable of monsters.
It makes sense, in a way. Working is a virtue of what the body does, especially according to the standards of our culture. Working on oneself is all we can ever do, both intentionally or unintentionally. For him to be so agreeable means he's just another body for the function, for the cause, to be another cog in the machine. That's how I see it, anyhow. There's a quote he gives before he dies to John's revenge, he doesn't mind. He calls it life. "Just people using each other up." I really think it doesn't bother him because in the end he is fulfilling a function that bodies are meant for.
@@alecsarcade555 If you see the new horror-filled world as a body, he's just like a fat cell. Food storage. Reserves for when another organ (like... an eye, perhaps?) needs nourishment. like how our cells can't really complain when our body kills them and recycles them. I think ur right that he feels as tho he's just fulfilling his purpose.
The End guy wasn't worried about dying either
Nope. I will never forget that Jared bullied a former friend because that friend went to college, all for a nerdy library job. And that wasn't enough. Jared then hunted him down and murdered him. Not for Flesh, but himself.
This Fandom has some of the most shallow morals.
did jared rly offer to give jon his rib back and jon brushed it off?? i mean, i suppose a couple missing ribs are no bother for the all powerful avatar of the ceaseless watcher, but still
Prolly would hurt to have it put back and it doesn't hurt now lol
I don't think it's a good idea to take something like that back from someone like that. Who knows what would happen.
I mean if it was me, Jared could absolutely keep that rib, I would not want it back - who knows what would happen 😬 Nope
@@juniper-moss
I would want it back to keep the other one company
@@macabrecitrus2127 fair enough
The garden feels reminiscent of Famine's restaurant in Good Omens (the book)
Also Alex voicing both Martin and Jared in this one is great.
you're right, it does. nice comparison
i thought of Famine's restaurant in that one statement, the letter to Gertrude from Adelard Decker. when he's talking about that sort of Fun Fair where when you win a prize it's a bone and everyone was trying to suck the marrow from it and stuff
omg you're right about the famine thing
YEAH IT DOES !! also i’m glad there’s more good omens fans here wooo
I play a homebrew class in D&D called a necrobotanist and this is exactly how I would describe the vibe of the class. I love this great fucked up imagery.
That sounds rad as hell. Necromancy as a school of magic is so conceptually versatile, and yet people so often fall back on the same imagery with their characters. Nice to see someone do something more creative with it.
Honestly, props to my man Jared for doing Martin a solid and not attacking his boyfriend before they killed him
This episode is so good !! I keep imaging Jared in like a gardening outfit w gloves n everything (for his many hands)
little straw hats on all of his various lumps..... 1567 knee pads... stray femur sticking out that he hangs a lil basket on..... daisy-patterned apron... im DEAD
WeAreAirborne I must draw this immediately
@@lakejoseph6570 BRO if you do please link us
The gloves are made of meat.
He's wearing regency-era stays and one of those little milkmaid blouses with tracksuit bottoms and Adidas sneakers. I feel it.
Damn I'm being called out by a flower
A flower made out of meat, no less.
After an avatar of the flesh dies.
Martin: "So what now?"
John: "Carry on, I guess"
Is that a carrion pun?!
okay its definitely starting to feel like the fears are sliding into each other, like the burning house had mentions of toxic and mold, last episode gave me serious stranger/spiral vibes and this one also mentions mold and corruption again. idk what that means but i sure noticed it
My guess is, the closer to The Penopticon they get, the less distinct the lines between the fears become. They start to blend together more and more as they approach the center of it all, as it were. But that’s just a theory at the moment. 😊
@@TheNitpickChick but that's just a theory! A TMA theory! ( I couldn't help myself sorry😔)
Well, remember that there aren't distinct boundaries for the Fears. There are bits where they blend and mix and create all these beautiful new horrors. Most of the statements this season are all Extinction flavoured as well.
I think that when the fears don't have to fight for dominance the distinctions matter less and less
NotThem's domain gave off Slaughter vibes, fearing that at any moment those around you will descend upon you and tear "you" apart
Ahhh, the beauty standards episode.
My meat man is just gardening why did they have to do him like this
This episode hit me quite hard. I was working out while listening.
I'm definitely a gristle bloom orchid.
saaamee omg
My chronic illness makes me a lilly
tag yourself i’m a bonerow
edit: bone rose. bone rose. it’s called a bone rose. i just read the transcripts
@@xxsdelphia im a Cutaway Tulip :)
i'm a lily of the damned
I am consistently in awe at Jonny’s creativity writing these. I never would’ve thought of something so devastatingly elegant for the Flesh. I never would’ve thought of a damnation such as this AT ALL. I don’t even know how to compliment it anymore, I feel like all I’ve been doing is commenting my praises of the writing every episode, xD. And Alex voicing Jared as well????? I never would’ve guessed if I hadn’t read a comment about it (I usually don’t stick around for the credits). That is some INCREDIBLE voice acting range.
Falling off my chair realising that Alex had to voice both Jared and Martin
When he started talking about how the rose must be kept under blinding light I just... they had to have consulted an actual dysmorphic for this one like that hits too close
fun fact, the song being whistled at the start is called "English Country Garden"
"And who's this? Your boyfriend?"
"Actually yes."
"Hm"
IT GETS ME EVERY TIME HE INTONES "ceaseless watcher" IT GETS ME EVERY TIME its simultaneously so cool and somewhat worrying
I will willingly sell my body to the Flesh just to see a full "Mortal Garden" plant encyclopedia.
"It is loved by the hands that tend it, but that love sows only misery and fear.
It is the worst place that has ever been beautiful, and it should not exist."
This episode has wonderful imagery, the unsettling description of the garden in such a beautiful and terryfing way, is amazing! I really enjoyed it!
I actually feared Jared a bit after the first time he was mentioned, don't really understand why, but the thought of malleable bones, made me so uneasy. Yet, as bad as it sounds, I think I actually like Jared's character... him simply being a devoted gardener in the apocalypse is so funny and almost nice!
The bone rose being the forced manifestation of disordered eating... poetic and so harsh in its truth
I REALLY want to draw the flowers from this episode, but I doubt I could do them justice
This reminds me of a short story i wrote when i was ten, about two raccoons who trap their hunter in a giant pit in the earth, bury him, and then use his decomposing body as fertilizer
.... was your ten year old self okay? 😭
@@anromeow NOPE! But my english teacher loved it
I wanna read that tbh
@@macabrecitrus2127 im thinking about remaking it lol
@@frogwithknives3749
Drop a link if you do 👁
The idea with the flowers is so unsettling. Great mental picture
WHY DID I BRIEFLY THINK THE TITLE SAID “ THE GENDER” ALDKFJJDJ
The one time I don’t read the content warnings IS THE ONE TIME I REALLY REALLY FUCKINF SHOULD HAVE
I have no idea what Jared said and at this point im too scared to ask
Muscle boi is very proud of his garden
Try looking up a transcript.
Interesting, Jared didn't seem... to be hurt at all by what Jon did. I wonder why.
He's an avatar of meat. I guess getting butchered isn't that big of a deal for him.
Being butchered is his kink
@@emilybarclay8831 there are 2 types of people
still not over the fact that Jared is voiced by Alex
also the mood and phrasing in this episode kind of reminds me of of Hannibal (the Tv series, naturally). Like ... I know it's awful and wrong and all that ... but it's still beautiful in a fascinating way
Take my like, good sir, for that Hannibal reference. You are absolutely right!
@@Ace_Up_My_Sleeve one of the best shows out there
@@jonahkaiser5876Preach! Two words: artistic corpses. Beautiful and amazing show.
Yeah ! Lots of Hannibal vibes ! Dr Lecter would be proud !
He would probably be a Flesh ruler too lol (and Will a Slaughter one ?)
@@macabrecitrus2127 I know this was 2 years ago, but Will could also very well be the Eye with all his understanding through empathy
Any time Jared shows up I have to turn on captions otherwise I can't understand a word he's saying :/
I do like Jared Hopworth, he's got a air of fair play around him and has a sense of humour, seems almost trustworthy and I do love that voice Alex does for him + the accent, something something pun based around common saying relating to good bones/heart/organs and implying he has many to choose from
In these episodes I really need the person that transcribes the audio, damn... Jared's so hard to understand sometimes
My face everytime that crunch/flesh noise happened:
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The flesh made that noise as I was reading this and I made that exact same face
Jared's voice always creeps me out
Can’t believe he and Martin are the same person
I can't understand him very well tbh
This episode is so friggin warped. It’s brilliant. Even the minor characters, the people groaning in the background, they really do sound like they’re being twisted into inhuman shapes. Also I heard somewhere that Alex does Jared’s voice without any effects added. Huh.
Martin's "ooooohkay" when Jared got up makes me super want to see what was going on lol
I didn't see a body image episode coming when we got to the domain of The Flesh but by god it a) made sense and b) hit hard.
As a fan of both horror and gore, as well as a fan of morbid art, I love this episode. The prompts these create are amazing
The vile fact that I got an Arby's commercial before this
I feel like Jared would enjoy feeling what he puts everyone else through
the writing for the ed/body dysphoria plants is really well done. the lily of the damned is my favorite..
"spirituality, afterlife, transhumanism, religion. all must be roundly dismissed or mocked" ouch :(
3:25 for the iconic line
This is definitely an interesting one. First off, the knowledge that The Flesh feeds on Body-Image issues is an interesting note that I'm sure most of us didn't realize. Secondly, Jared has always been one of my favorite avatars, primarily because of the whole aesthetic behind his powers. . . It almost felt like he was happy at the end. Unlike any of the others that John has smited before, there was no screaming, no cursing or pain. There were really only a small grunt of pain; I honestly want to believe that, even as the terror of his victims flowed through him, Jared still *enjoyed* it.
Jared Hopworth would have made a great Sarkhic Priest
Oh thank god, I was getting SO NERVOUS for the Flesh episode because I thought it'd be like overly meat-y or farm like with its sound effects. Not to say I'm comfortable with the... garden, but it's not what I expected!!!
I also like how Jared immediately gets shut down with the jab boyfriend joke. Like a Total Dude Gym Bro (tm) REALLY doesn't know how to respond when his offensive joke gets responded to with genuinity.
I would love to see all the magnus archive episodes animated, the way that everything is described is increadible
well! i wasn’t expecting to be emotionally eviscerated by a meat flower today but yknow
im just imagining jared key just sitting in a rocking chair made of bones while jon reads out human plant cultivation notes
Oh hey! The Garden of my Insecurity! N e a t
I just gotta say, I thought the Flesh would be another gross episode, I'm glad it's not.
I like to think Jared is happily sitting there all :3 and taking notes listening to Jon while Martin stands beside utterly appalled lmao
and this is why you read warnings in the desc
something i just realized, all the people of influence marked by the powers that be, basically have their own corrupted versions of the Kekkei Genkai.
ooh this one definitely hurt but the way the imagery was described was just,, yeah wow
This episode is..... creatively terrifying. And also Jon saying that Martin is his boyfriend just made my day.
Cottagecore more like CottageGore
“your boyfriend?”
“uh-“
“yes, actually…”
“…oh”
Ah yes.
Jarod and my utter unablity to understand what the fuck hes saying.
Gotta find the guy who copies transcripts to the comments...
Jared: Who's this, your boyfriend?
Jon: Yes actually :)
Jared:...
Jared: I'm not really sure where to go with that.
I'd love Jonathan to explain the theories about The Nether in Minecraft.
This episode will always leave such an impression with me. The concept alone, a garden and flowers as analogies for different types of body disphoria, culmination tips ffs, and the description are so accurate and poetic. It all really drives home the point of the horror pf having a body but also the beauty that comes with it. Jaw is on the floor etc etc
I think this is officially my favourite episode of the Magnus archives ngl
Translating from an animalistic to a human fear has had an interesting effect on the Flesh, similar to the hunt. Though I suppose the similarity should make sense considering they themselves are meant to be complimentary fears
not big man jared growing a little garden in his post apocalyptic domain
The bone rose hits too close home
same
Not me listening to this while working out 0_0
This is up there with The Piper as one of my favorite episodes.
I would like to say - if apocalypse flowers work on a basis" as long as you are doing everything wrong, it would work" i would be an awesome gardener
Hi Alex!
I really don't think Jared deserved it. He was doing a good work in the garden and the victims sounded...strangely ok with it? I mean of course fear and despair, but compared to all the others. Well let's just say that I better be a beautiful meat flower than burning alive forever in my home.
He didn't even try to fight back. And he did nothing that is demanding revenge. He only did what John asked him to.
I think John is not really on a revenge quest but in a "kill everything that marked you" quest. Maybe it will free him?
I am not the only one! Also apart for slight mishap of attacking the institute he was quite civil with Jon , helped him out didn't kill or hurt more than needed. When it comes to avatars it's pretty good
I agree! Strangely enough I grew kind of fond of Jared, even if his purpose terrified me.
problem with that theory, he didn't kill the avatar of the end.
@@hazama0634 At the time, my working theory was that it was being in a dead-like coma that marked him, not Oliver. But this theory doesn't really hold anymore with more recent events.
@@Noah-xc3vd I always liked Jared, as in spite of his nature as a bully when you look at it, he was just.. doing his stuff. Not interested in rituals, just making a quid where he could, mostly happy to keep out of everyones way doing his fleshy business
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i can barely understand a word jared said
“Who is this? Your boyfriend?”
“Yes actually”
“Oh”
I love Jared's voice effect and bodily creaking.
okay the writing has always been good but jesus season 5 is on another level
Out of everything in this series I’m honestly fine with this one, i wanna be a pretty flower
Jared: Who's this, your boyfriend?
Jon: Yes, actually
Jared: Oh.