Properties of Compactness

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
  • Compact sets enjoy some mysterious properties, which I'll discuss in this video. More precisely, compact sets are always bounded and closed. The beauty of this result lies in the proof, which is an elegant application of this subtle concept. Enjoy!
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Komentáře • 30

  • @AhmadAhmad-qx6fp
    @AhmadAhmad-qx6fp Před 3 lety +2

    There's compactness..
    And then..
    There's para-compactness
    To which Mary Rudin (of Rudin fame), proved in late 60s, that Every Metric Spaces is para-compact
    Such a beautiful proof in its own right

  • @coreymonsta7505
    @coreymonsta7505 Před rokem +1

    The proof for compact implies bounded I had in mind was to consider the open cover consisting of all open balls (any radius works) centered at some point in E. The lemma to use for this proof is that the finite union of bounded sets is bounded (and the super trivial result that open balls are bounded). Which is all fine but your way involves a cover which isn't just completely abstract lol

  • @thedoublehelix5661
    @thedoublehelix5661 Před 3 lety +7

    I wonder how they came up with the finite subcover idea. I would've thought it was impossible to define compactness purely as a topological notion.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 3 lety +3

      I wonder that too! Maybe from algebraic topology, or a mathematician shuffled a deck of cards?

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 Před 3 lety

      I'm not sure, but I belive that first step was Borel's proof that when you have (in first version only countable) cover of closed interval on real line, there is always a finite subcover, what is know now as Heine-Borel theorem. And these open the way to proving the propeties of closed interval just using notion of existence of finite subcover. Having that there is not hard to imagine that they discovered, that it is a defining property of such sets.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heine%E2%80%93Borel_theorem

  • @arturcostasteiner9735
    @arturcostasteiner9735 Před 3 lety +2

    Another proof that E is bounded:
    Pick r > 0 and let U= { B(x r) | x is in E}. Then, U is an open cover of E and, since E is compact, U contains a finite subcover U'. Since U' is a finite collection of bounded sets, the union of its members is bounded. And since E is a subset of this union, E is bounded.
    Actually, this shows E is totally bounded: for every r > 0, E is covered by a finite collection of balls of radius r.

  • @Demki
    @Demki Před 3 lety +2

    Small correction to the definition of boundedness: We do not require that x is in E, for example the empty set is bounded and closed (as it is compact) but there is no x in the empty set.
    The proof that a compact set is bounded doesn't require that x is in the set either, you can take any x in the space.

    • @aneeshsrinivas9088
      @aneeshsrinivas9088 Před 2 lety

      Why can't you just add on that the empty set is considered bounded to the definition directly?

  • @carterwoodson8818
    @carterwoodson8818 Před 3 lety

    Coming here after tonight's stream, this is so good thank you Dr. Peyam!

  • @dgrandlapinblanc
    @dgrandlapinblanc Před 2 lety

    Ok. Thank you very much.

  • @juanaedo6870
    @juanaedo6870 Před 3 lety +1

    Justo estoy empezando con mi curso de topología.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 3 lety

      Fenomenal, buena suerte!

  • @thomasrascon1086
    @thomasrascon1086 Před 6 měsíci

    Kyle from Nelk if he decided to become a mathematician.

  • @rishabhbhutani5835
    @rishabhbhutani5835 Před 3 lety

    13:13 ---- LOL
    btw beautiful proof

  • @xshortguy
    @xshortguy Před rokem

    is it worth looking into compactness in spaces without distances, or are those just parlor tricks?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před rokem

      Of course, compactness also works in pure topological spaces, with coverings

  • @EpicMathTime
    @EpicMathTime Před 3 lety +1

    I don't know why.. but saying that compact sets are "bounded and closed" instead of "closed and bounded" is very disturbing to me. 😂

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 3 lety +2

      LOL, alphabetical order 😂

  • @tomkerruish2982
    @tomkerruish2982 Před 3 lety +1

    It's possible I've missed it, but do you ever mention that "closed and bounded" is equivalent to "compact" only in the finite-dimensional case?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, in the heine Borel theorem

    • @tomkerruish2982
      @tomkerruish2982 Před 3 lety +1

      @@drpeyam Thank you. I recall being surprised that it didn't hold in the infinite-dimensional case, requiring the set to be totally bounded rather than simply bounded.

    • @bramlentjes
      @bramlentjes Před 3 lety

      Good observation! In an infitine dimensional space the closed unit ball is for example closed and bounded but not compact (Riesz) :)

    • @citizencj3389
      @citizencj3389 Před 2 lety

      @@bramlentjes it is locally compact I believe.

  • @tomkerruish2982
    @tomkerruish2982 Před 3 lety +1

    Don't compact sets also get better mileage?

  • @mirak76
    @mirak76 Před 3 lety

    in 2.57: why E should be covered by U?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 3 lety +2

      E Bounded means E is included in a large ball, so just choose N large enough

    • @mirak76
      @mirak76 Před 3 lety

      Dr Peyam thank you for your reply, I wanted to say why U is an open cover of E ? but I think that’s because every compact set is a précompact set .

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 3 lety +1

      Because every element in E is in some U in the cover

    • @mirak76
      @mirak76 Před 3 lety

      could i say for y in E there exists an N such that y belongs to B(x,N)?