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I went to both Catholic and “regular” public school in Ontario and I can tell you without a doubt that there is literally no difference whatsoever besides the occasional mention of God, and the celebration of Christian holidays such as Easter or Christmas with a mass at school, which public schools celebrate too in a more secular manner.
I guess that’s good we can guarantee all children are getting the same and equal education no matter what school they choose to go to.
Yeah Catholic schools are in no way “better” lol. I have seen people say and think that and it’s one of the dumbest parts of modern Canada. Basically the exact same Ontario Secondary School curriculum.
The stereotype is that most Catholic schools were built more recently and have newer equipment and are less run down, given the expansion of their finding in the 80s and 90s.
The only other difference is that Catholic schools tend to have much stricter school dances, if any, leading to those kids coming to public school dances to learn how to be awkward around girls with the rest of us.
As a non-catholic I will always defend this system. Public schools having a monopoly is worse for everyone. In my city there is a lot of competition between the Catholic and public schools, with both trying to attract more students in order to receive more funding.
Having special schools for catholics in a secular society does not make more sense, but if it provides schools with a reason to improve themselves then I am willing to overlook that.
In America I went to catholic school and it was most definitely better from a catholic perspective, the whole thing was centered around God always
@@Zachary-ht2so In my experience, in Canada only around half of the students at these schools are catholic. Even the staff, though I believe have to be baptized, lots of them do not practice regularly. Unlike private religious schools, the religious aspect isn't really the reason people enroll their kids in these schools
As always it's the same stereotype in the US according to media, the purported superiority of catholic schools.
This video wasn't Canadian enough. As a result it won't be promoted by the algorithm. Sorry! - The CRTC
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Personally the CRTC or whatever will force Canadian CZcams to have a "Canadian content and creators section" or whatever and the algorithm stuff will be sort of in the background. If you have been on CZcams for like forever like me it will probably not affect you that much.
TOO SOON lol
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I love how a simple ruler snapping sound conveys the point so succinctly
As an American Catholic who went to a Catholic school in, well, the United States, I feel like spending a semester in one of those Canadian Catholic schools growing up would be a bit of a culture shock, even the ones in communities with few French-speakers.
My school, despite having classes where we Catholics were in the clear minority (lots of Baptists here in GA), made *no* compromises, for better or worse, in Catholic teachings and doctrines. We were the kind of school where "artificial contraception" was taught as against teaching (maybe our location in GA helped with that; I doubt a Catholic school in parts of NY or CA would go that far). It would have probably rubbed a lot of my classmates the wrong way (and confused the rest of us) to see them raise pride flags during June.
Was rubbed a contraceptive pun?
@@willfakaroni5808 no, not intentionally.
CZcams commenters are more creative than I often give credit for.
When I went to a Catholic High school, most of the teacher were stanch Catholics and it transferred into their lessons all the time, which is unacceptable. Our sex-Ed curriculum was just a bunch of pro-life propaganda, teachers would openly support homophobic/transphobic figures, and they did nothing about the homophobic bullying I faced. It’s time for the Catholic board to be assimilated. It has no right to exist in a modern and secular society. Your religions “doctrine” is a lie that’s caused the death of many queer people.
Catholicism should have one official doctrine. Sometimes priests just don't mentions things, because they cannot go against Catholic doctrine, but silence is a quite toleration (pope Francis is notorious for this, which sparks so many controversies, because his main job should be keeping things unambiguous). So official doctrine of Catholicism is artificial contraception is a mortal sin. So other Catholic schools cannot teach otherwise, but sometime they will not mention it. Catholic doctrine on marriage, procreation, contraception, dignity of human life is quite well defined and rather strict.
Newfoundland has a lot of Irish descendent Catholics and public Catholic schools too.
Newfoundland only abolished their denominational school system in 1999. I was among one of the first Protestants to attend MQW what was once and arguably still is a very Catholic elementary school in Mount Pearl as Park Ave Elementary had been demolished that same year. The reason we were so late in doing this being for the same reason as Newfoundland is filled with both Irish and Northern Irish decendants
As someone who attended a Catholic school, I can confirm they're 100% just regular schools that make you learn the Bible and go to church once a month
Once a month? It was every Wednesday for me. We also had uniforms. I thought it was weird when I switched to public school in 6th grade and was told you can basically wear whatever to school.
@@MidwestArtMan It depends on the school board, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s catholic schools where students go to church everyday lol
In my experience and from what I’ve heard they do seem a little better than the public school counterparts.
@@AT-nw6cr in my city a bunch of non Catholics or Christians went to Catholic school but years ago they cracked down on it by proving baptismal records or if an older siblings still goes to the same school. I’m not sure who gets more funding if public or Catholic schools do
Yup this exactly, I mean you can come "late" and avoid the church all together.
Here in Saskatchewan, catholic schools here are pretty much the same thing as public schools except they say a short prayer over the intercom every morning and after lunch, and the odd special occasion we go to church.. everyone including the teachers are very left wing despite the stereotype about catholics being right wing
Lmao my teachers were extremely leftwing when I went too, except when it came to abortion. It was literally like the Giancarlo Esposito "I was acting" meme from Far Cry 6. Night and day.
@@nateh1135 how so? It's good they're against abortion
@@coh2conscript851 They were ardent NDP/Liberal supporters who hated Harper and always pushed the more leftwing "social justice" initiatives and talking points. For example, I literally got into a fight with one of my teachers because I called natives "aboriginals" instead of "indigenous", and this was back in like 2016 lol. All my teachers also loved Pope Francis and hated Benedict XVI, and we all know the political leanings of both. Finally, the teachers always supported their union and had a woe-is-me attitude, even though the Ontario Teachers' Federation is probably the most powerful institution in Ontario, if not Canada, and the average teacher in Ontario was making around $87,000 a year despite having smaller average workloads. Just overall, they were typical urban liberals.
Except when you mentioned abortion --- then they sounded like they were ultraconservatives lol. We got the works in our Catholic education on how abortion was bad, all life was precious, and its killing a baby. The complete switch was actually funny to see.
Yeah I went in Regina for elementary and high school, my non catholic school friends ask me what it’s like I said you just get a religion class more on morality and spirituality and small prayer each in exchange for another class. Pretty much still the same.
With the exception of abortion, Catholics have been historically Left wing in the US. JFK for example.
I attended a catholic school and its 100% the same as any other public school. Only difference was religion study (which focused more on world religions lol) and morning/closing prayer. I honestly liked it better than public even as a non-religious person
Yeah a lot of time spent in church/mass that would’ve otherwise been spent doing work.
@@datchicray We only had mass twice - at the beginning and ending of - every year and it only took up half of our (~1h) periods but maybe our school was just very different lol
@@sire_beandon brutal. We had one every month not including ones held for holidays. And one every week in December for advent.
When I went to a Catholic High school, most of the teacher were stanch Catholics and it transferred into their lessons all the time, which is unacceptable. Our sex-Ed curriculum was just a bunch of pro-life propaganda, teachers would openly support homophobic/transphobic figures, and they did nothing about the homophobic bullying I faced. It’s time for the Catholic board to be assimilated. It has no right to exist in a modern and secular society.
When and where did you go to school? We had mass at least once a month and taught about an 1/7 of our curriculum on religion. One religion. The religion.
Imagine how quickly a local government would get sued if they tried to open a Catholic public school in the USA.
I’d bet they have a decent shot under this Supreme Court if they played their case right.
I thought america had catholic schools? Am i just dumb
I think there's a couple Catholic charter schools in the US, which are technically public. Boston has some.
As a catholic I can say no no please no
I live in Portugal and all cities have at least 1 of them. in the past, they were actually free to attend because governments payed the tuitions. I studied in a private catholic school for free. It was actually the best One in the entire area.
it is has been for the last 100 years. It was the place where our fascist dictator made his highschool.
Not only does Ontario have separate secular and catholic school boards, they also have French versions of both of those for a total of 4 public school boards.
Most efficient government service in north america
Don't forget the jewish day schools
We also have a protestant school board because of this law, but there is only one school in the board lmao, so technically 5 public boards.
Personally, I'm on team "get rid of publicly funded, faith based education" and bring it down to two boards, one English and one French. But that will never happen, because it's part of our silly constitution (written 150 years ago and is completely out of touch with modern Canadian society).
@@FonicsSuck yep.
I am pretty sure that is only for Toronto. I live in a fairly mid-sized city in Ontario and I think we have maybe just one public French school for the entire region.
@@tn98544 those are private and theyre talking about public schools (source: i went to a jewish day school)
You left out that the real reason for the catholic schools was that there were no secular schools. The option was Protestant schools. Then the Protestant school boards became secular and the catholic boards remained
The number of random ass things in the Canadian constitution is astounding, as an American
i grew up in a small town in ontario, it was mostly kids of irish and italian decent. Even though the town was quite small, we had only 1 public and 3 catholic elementary schools
Many catholic mayority nations also have "Catholic" schools (mainly run by jesuits) and are also consider some of the best schools on those nations, they have also over time become more secular (they still have religious services but are not obligatory)
Difference is, those are private schools. In Canada we also have all kinds of private schools, some religiously affiliated or not. They get no public funding, and rely on tuition from parents (usually very wealthy ones) to run and make a profit, and often times because of this they are some of the best schools in the nation. Whereas catholic schools here are government funded by taxes, are not ran for profit, and charge no tuition- like any other public school. Only difference is religion class from my experience having been in both the Catholic and Public board in ontario.
The US has this but at a higher level, some of our most prestigious universities (Georgetown, Fordham, Notre Dame) are actually Catholic schools
@@gregoryborton6598 Ontario at least you have to declare whether you property taxes go towards public board education system or the catholic
@@tn98544 Lol yeah, and when I went to catholic school (I only went because it was a legit better school than the public one I was set on going to- I wanted to study music and the public highschool had no music program) my parents basically said fuck you to the catholic board and didn't switch their taxes. Needless to say, the duration of my time there was rather contentious with the administration, given how vocally anti-religion I was.
The funniest part of all these issues is they can be solved by having both groups exist in their own spheres. That way the Catholic French Canadians can love the pope and speak French all they want, while the Protestant English Canadians can hate the pope and speak English all they want.
"Tension between the English and French"
Man...if that ain't an understatement 😂😂😂😂
Here in France, I did attend private Catholic schools, since my parents, despite being secular, thought I'd be neglected and not cared for in public schools.
What do you mean by secular?
Were they atheists/agnostics or did they simply were non praticsing catholics
Could you cover Canada's assisted suicide laws? I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it
Yes!
Love all your videos. I learn so much from them!
Especially his award-winning ones. (All of them are)
Where I’m from, they’re divided into sub categories. So English-Public, French-Public, English-Catholic, and French-Catholic. The French Catholic is by far the best school in our region for Student Grades with the French-Public being the worst, which is interesting. I went to English-Public, which was by far the biggest school of the 4 and was kinda just a melting pot of everyone.
Lol I went to French Public but not sure how the grades were compared to others lol, what city are you from?
@@Joseph-qd9ew Timmins, ON. We only have 5 High Schools in the city anyway lol 😂
My Toronto public high school never had drivers ed classes, and I got to take them at the nearby Catholic high school. I remember feeling like such a badass being the only student in the school who didn’t need to wear a uniform. 😎
Up in sudbury no high school offers drivers ed, you have to go to a driving school, I went the the ttcc transport training center of Canada. It was cheaper and better then the rest got me my g2 in 8 months and got me 10% off of insurance
I went to catholic schools in Ontario from kindergarten to grade 8. Im glad I'm in public school now because the amount of bigotry that some of us had towards gays and especially trans people was insane. The non catholic kid going because there parents thought it was better was a common sight. I'm not catholic anymore and am now in grade 11
This is just stupid
I used to perform at schools in Ontario with my orchestra and the catholic kids were always 10x more behaved than the regular public school crowd, I remember that really vividly
I went to a french catholic elementary school and my fav day of the whole school year was going to Roy Thompson Hall to watch the orchestra play.
Anachronism- a vocabulary word last week that I thought no one ever uses
Thank you for justifying the 30+mins I spent learning that word
It really comes in handy when discussing things like poorly researched historical movies where people are using things that haven't been invented yet.
@@KasumiKenshirou lol that's so true
My friend went to Catholic school in Ontario and was schooled by the differences of public school in Nova Scotia. She said it was way less strict here
This is actually the reason my grandfather emigrated to America in the 70s, he was running a semi successful plumbing business in Quebec and wasn’t supportive of the pro-French speaking bloc that wanted to leave Canada and he had his business attacked because of it, on top of that some of those people attacked and left his dad for dead on a bridge so he decided to leave
I’m not catholic but went to a catholic school, from personal experience I can say that on average the catholic schools within my city in Ontario were safer than public schools. Statics also showed that there was a higher percentage of graduating students from Catholic schools.
as someone who has grown up in this odd era, ive found it is a bit comedic just how many non-Catholic children in Ontario attend catholic school because of their parents, who somtimes are also...not catholic...
I guess this answers why so many of the characters in Scott Pilgrim went to Catholic school.
I'm half Franco Ontarian and half Québécois, and never knew about that! Thank you very much, I've lived in Ottawa-Gatineau my whole life and had been wondering about the point of these weird non-deminational catholic schools for years now.
Lmao I lived in the street of a Catholic high school and wanted to go cuz they actually had nice uniforms and I thought it’d make mornings easier but my mum made me go to the secular one a few blocks away because the stereotype in our town wasn’t they were better, it was that the girls got pregnant more
Which school board district mine was the sudbury catholic school board
Not necessarily higher pregnancy rate but a hell of a lot of attention and action. Downside was dirty old men being dirty old men.
Yep same here where I live, well known the catholic schools have higher teen pregnancy rates
@julie-annbell4612 speaking of dirty old men, I am currently in grade 12, my grade 8 homeroom teacher was arrested during the last week of school when I was in grade 11, he was arrested on 5 counts of sexual assault and 5 counts of sexual interference involving someone 16 and under, and the former administrator who had ignored the students who brought it up to him and essentially swept it under the rug was also arrested on criminal negligence, sometimes karma does hit
@@LUVDlSC they have higher known teen pregnancy rates, because those following their faith don't abort.
I grew up in Cambridge ontario, and most of the people who went to catholic school were muslims. Most Catholics went to regular public school.
As someone whos gone to both public and catholic in America, there is a significant difference. Being american, especially going to a shit public school we basically had no money, rotting food, and we were struggling for the most basic things. Then i went to catholic school where they actually managed their finances properly. We actually had money for our clubs, and it was really nice that we were able to do things other than “go to a competition once a year and youll never win so jsut have fun” as my teacher taught me. The culture is also obviously very different. We prayed in about 3 or 4 of my classes every single day, not counting prayer during the morning announcements. We also did mass once a month but that wasnt really a huge thing. In public my teachers pretended they were aethiest so that way they wouldnt give off the vibe of promoting their religion out of fear of punishment. which tbh im cool with, im not really for religion in schools. But it was a very good experience.
The irony is that catholic schools pretty much don’t exist in Quebec anymore 😂
My partner is Sicilian-American & grew up in Brooklyn. His parents sent him and his sister to a private Catholic School. They were actually physically and verbally abusive to children, and they weren’t taught to read phonetically, but by word recognition. I certainly hope they’ve eased up over the years. It sounded awful.
I grew up in Catholic.. it was more structured .. and included going to the Catholic church and doing all the routines.. my Mom had Nuns in the classroom. We did not ..we had one hold over nun but didn't show up in the garb. They called her 'sister' . There was grooming going on by deviant Clergy of the church as well as teachers. There was a woman teacher when I was in grade 8 who was grooming / having sexual relations with my best friend at the time. It really messed him up but he got his life straight later..and now has a family . But she really almost destroyed him. Her name was miss pellarin.
Saw your TVO debate.
You by far offered a logical and reasonable answer and challenge to topic.
Loved when you rationally called out there traditional bias. And they ran away to abstract arguments that were more relative then objective.
Bravo!
Yep exactly that. My parents sent me to a catholic school on the basis that is was in walking distance (honestly big win for that). I can day with little doubt that the majority of people attending, including myself, had very little religion in them
And no comments about the natives who’s land was stolen and religion/culture was tried to be destroyed by both of these groups.
I went to a catholic school in Ontario. The main difference is: we wore uniforms, had mandatory religion classes (obviously focused on Catholicism but also world religion and general Christianity ), a morning prayer over the radio, and we attended mass about monthly. This was over ten years ago mind you. I'm also not catholic but my parents are relatively religious and did indeed believe catholic schools were better. In elementary school they slightly nudged you to become catholic, and there were very few non-Catholics at the school. By high school nobody really cared and there were quite a few non-Catholics.
I went to Catholic and public schools in the southern USA and it was like the difference between Ivy League vs poverty spec school in a little library
In the US is that Catholic schools are typically private schools so that might have something to do with people thinking they're better
That half-second flash of the nun with a ruler was a great example of the quirky charm of JJ
I just saw JJ on "The Agenda with Steve Paikin". The topic was whether or not the dream of a bilingual society for Canada is dead. This is probably the only area where I disagree with JJ. I don't believe that language is nothing more than a tool of communication. It's central to a culture. This is especially true if that culture is a minority in a nation.
How?
I watched this, and it's kinda comical how JJ acts allergic to French and pretends to have zero Frenchl. I live in the USA, don't really speak Spanish, our main minority language, but there's bits of Spanish that pretty much everyone knows from the larger ambient culture. He comes off as really closed minded toward French or to the idea that there is any benefit or value to Canada not being a monolingual English nation.
Cameo appearance by Pp. Leo XIII from whom Catholics were given the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel.
I’m a Jew who went to an alternative catholic school for about 2 years. Super chill, never had to do anything religious at all. There was a religion class but it was optional. When I told staff members I was Jewish they didn’t care at all (which is good). Nothing forced on me it was chill and a really good school. I’ve heard otherwise from private catholic schools on the other hand
I like this video style you went with, your face is pretty close up and I like the backgrounds
His "shorts" always feel like he's yelling at me
Church and state can mingle a little bit at the school level. Governments need to start promising not to seek to alter the values you wish for your children. If the government is going to confiscate your kids for 8 hours a day then schools with your values must be established and maintained by the government.
It really depends on where you are in Ontario. The curriculum is essentially the same but the approach is slightly different. For example in my area many parents of kids with special needs prefer the Catholic board b/c they get more EAs and have a more inclusive approach. However in my specific town our public school has a great spec Ed program.
An Ontario Catholic school (St. Joseph’s Catholic High School in Renfrew, Ontario.) has had one of their student arrested for trespassing after openly expressing his Catholic beliefs.
16-year-old student Josh Alexander was Suspended for being open on his religious belief that there is only Two genders. A group of Trans students within the school complained about the remarks and the student was suspended under the schools hate speech policy. The student then returned to the class, not believing that he should have been punished for being a Open and devoted Catholic in a Catholic school.
Members of the O.P.P were called to the school for the report of a person trespassing, and the Catholic student was arrested.
the student was told he could only return to school “if he agreed not to use the ‘dead name’ of any transgender student and agreed to exclude himself from his two afternoon classes because those classes are attended by two transgender students who disapprove of Josh’s religious beliefs.”
'Dead naming' refers to using the birth name of a person who has transitioned to the other gender or just choose to no longer identify with that name.
What I wonder is, where is his right to his own opinion, his right to worship and follow his religion. In a school specifically for the Catholic Ontarians, it seems they are no longer allowed to teach the values of their faith? People have a right to an unpopular or disliked opinion.
“I walked into one of my classes. I sat down and everyone looked pretty surprised to see me there. Within two minutes the vice-principal was in the classroom asking me to leave,” Josh said.
He left the class and “almost immediately I was met with the police.” Josh was put in the back of a cruiser, driven off property and later released and charged with trespassing.
He was asked to leave the property... And he did.. And he was still arrested.
I went to catholic school in British Columbia, and am currently attending public school. Trust me when I say, it is NOTHING like public school. The religious indoctrination was very heavy. Don’t know how it is elsewhere though..
We had uniforms, went to church once a week, had prayer every morning for about an hour, had multiple religion classes per week and of course we had massive events for holidays like Christmas and Easter.
I went to a public school attached with a (completely accessible to the non catholic students and the only restrictions were "don't do that") catholic school in Ontario. I think the worst thing about this was the shared library where the religion section was only catholic books and all other religious books were in the fiction section😭😭😭.
That would get shut down quickly in the US
I went to a French catholic public school in Ontario. We had a cardboard cut out of the pope, no uniforms, in school mass, an LGBTQ+ club and many students who weren't catholic or even christian. So it felt like what I'd imagine a normal public school would feel like. And although not mentioned in the video the government has to allow French-language rights holders to enroll their children in a fully French school.
I find it offensive that I would need to make a special subsidy for Catholic Schools. This is especially the case for Catholic Schools that are English speaking and have almost no students of French-Canadian ancestry enrolled! Why are there no Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, or even Anglican Schools?
I went to Catholic school. We learn all the same things it’s just got more religion in it on a daily basis.
I went to Catholic school for two reasons: First I’m from a Catholic family. Second, I went to a French school in Ontario and the French public schools weren’t a thing when I started anyway
When I went to a Catholic High school, most of the teacher were stanch Catholics and it transferred into their lessons all the time, which is unacceptable. Our sex-Ed curriculum was just a bunch of pro-life propaganda, teachers would openly support homophobic/transphobic figures, and they did nothing about the homophobic bullying I faced. It’s time for the Catholic board to be assimilated. It has no right to exist in a modern and secular society.
As someone who's in the Catholic school system, it's just normal school but you get extra marks because of the mandatory Religion course :)
I love that you highlighted Cameron's poster specifically xD
I'm from a relatively decent sized town and went to a French Catholic school. They were so strict about the French thing that we were punished for speaking English. I didn't have a single English class until grade 6 when I left that school. Even weirder, we had green and white day where we had to sing the franco ontarian "anthem" for the week it happened instead of o canada, a prayer on the day of to keep the French language alive and a parade to which was just our school walking around the town while us, the students, handed out pamphlets on how canadas first language should be changed to French and in 2050 the number 1 language spoken will be French. Not to mention having to wear green and white or risk being sent home. From the information I have our school was the only one that took it this seriously but speaking French still creeps me out to this day 😂
one difference between the catholic school and regular school was that there were usually better music and fine arts classes.People can decide if they wanted their property tax allocated for schools tgo either the public or catholic system
I went to Catholic elementary and high school in Ontario from 1993 to 2007. Now that I’m a mom and my daughter is in Catholic school I do see some changes. It was a lot more strictly Catholic in my day. Catholic schools have began to focus more on inclusion especially in the LGBTQ area.
My daughter currently goes to a Traditional Catholic School (they study Latin, Greek, French, Gregorian Chant- pre Vatican ll) run by the Dominican Mothers from France in the US along the Canadian border. EXCELLENT education! They have many students from Canada. I would agree, most Catholic schools are “Catholic” in name only and the reason they are shutting them down.
Yeah it's not just the french. I'm an Irish Catholic, like with the US a lot of Irish emigrated to Canada especially in the nineteenth century after the famine and from former soldiers. Religion is a massive issue here and has been for centuries. Even though I'm agnostic I would still absolutely not send my children to a Protestant school. So of course Irish immigrants for instance would want Catholic schools with a Catholic ethos, it's not about going to a better school. It's about going to a school that holds the ethos of your faith. I get that it might be hard for you to understand, but at least try to be tolerant of people's faith.
J.J. makes learning fun!
Religious schools should not get funding or tax breaks whatsoever. They should be taxed and beholden to the same rules as businesses.
Schools shouldn't be taxed because they don't make much of an income you'd just bankrupt them
i live in Edmonton and my mom drove for public and catholic schools and probably the main difference is the days that each are in session, or at least that's what appeared to me to be the case
Interestingly enough, the same thing is true here in America. Many non-Catholic students attend Catholic schools, and some aren't even Christians at all. I recall reading a statistic fairly recently that a significant percentage (I think it was 10 or 20 percent) of non-Catholic students in American Catholic schools are actually Muslims.
You could make a sequel to this short about the legal battle between the catholic schools vs QC government post-Quiet Revolution when the government created language school boards
I'm not Canadian, but i did go and technically still am in a Catholic school, and they are unironically just the same as "regular" schools, except with masses and more bibles. Heck, i went to school with multiple denominations and people of entirely different faiths or even no faiths at all and all that happened with that was you didn't have to get ash during ash wednesday and you just sat in the airconditioned classroom doing whatever.
I go to a Catholic school and it's really weird that Catholic schools in Canada are subject to elected boards and not The Diocese(tm)
Hahaha, fun to hear Zelda’s sanctuary theme when referring to religion…
We also saw the divide during the small pox outbreak in Montreal way back when...
i’m jewish and have attended both public and catholic public schools. the only major difference besides the masses and holidays is that the catholic school has this sorta faux elitist feel where they’re really strict on stuff like uniform and student events with their only excuse being “catholicism”
Catholic schools becoming "less overtly catholic" has a lot more to do with Catholic families in the area being more liberal. It's also more of a thing in cities than rural areas, with Ottawa and Toronto having *super* progressive Catholic boards while rural boards are still fairly backwards
Better super progressive than super conservative, we've seen that pan out in American school systems and suicide rates skyrocketed
Here in the Philippines Catholic schools are private and are way better than public schools (except Science high schools). The oldest University here is a Royal and Catholic University, founded in 1611. The difference here I guess is public schools here are teaching religion specifically Catholic religion. But all religions and sects are accepted in public schools. They don't need to attend religion class or mass if they are non-catholics. Also, the prayer now here is different, schools now pray a "universal prayer" before class rather than traditional catholic prayers during my time. School holidays are mostly Catholic holidays but we also consider Ramadan and Chinese new year as holiday for everyone.
I was one of those non catholic children that attended a catholic high school… it sucked…
In Europe, Catholic schools are highly regarded - today, many non-Catholic children go to Catholic schools, only missing on religious subjects classes.
There is something in that story, discipline and dedication to learning is more pronounced in Catholic schools (by the way, I'm not Catholic)
Catholic schools here are the dumbest waste of money. Straight up the same school just across the street but requires all its own admin and bureaucrats. Massive waste of money and dividing up the schools for no purpose.
As the latent hostility of the speaker towards Catholics shows, along with the wave of Catholic church burnings endorsed by the increasingly authoritarian State and the discriminatory laws and regulation directed towards Catholics, anti-Catholicism is alive and thriving in Canada. The anti-Catholicism of the early 1900's and the potential threat of more in the future were among the main reasons my Irish Catholic grandfather, who had emigrated there as a teenager to join his brother and sister, soon left for the US. Most of the family settled in the US and we still get some of our Canadian cousins emigrating down here. Nobody goes the other way. Thanks again, Grandpa!
always found it kinda weird that nova scotia didn’t have an ontario-style catholic private school system until i remembered my dad was the first graduating class in my town’s singular high school after merging the catholic school and the protestant school
People will fight and divide themselves over anything..
Gee, I can't believe this. I remember growing up in 60s Calgary and there was a lot of anti French statements and bigotry to Catholics especially from conservatives. Today this trend has died down after the increase of bilingual schools.
I went to french catholic up to grade 6 and french public afterwards for elementary school and high school.
My experience with catholic school was more about their lax policies on bullying, and dedicating lesson time to religious studies. They also forced my parents to get me and my older sister baptized if we were to be allowed to go on field trips.
My older sister went to a catholic highschool for a few years as well, and from there she did share stories about young women being expelled from the highschool for becoming pregnant.
I definitely benefitted from leaving the catholic school system in northern ontario. The public schools treated bullying more seriously and actually offered support for issues I had then.
This was late 90s early 2000s for my time in catholic school.
The fact that I am the head of my french catholic school's healthy LGBTQ alliance and became agnostic following advice from my world religion teacher in 9th grade at the same school should tell you everything you need to know about the system.
None of that would have gone though with administration's approval at my American Catholic school growing up, that's for sure.
I feel like at my school, if some LGBTQ kids tried to form their own group, the principal would dole out a few suspensions and brace for the lawsuits and internal civil war among the student body, with half the kids supporting the principal (the half that live in the north part of town or out in the country, putting up signs for Republican candidates on their large lawns, driving their Sierra Denali trucks and GLS SUVs to school) and the other half (the rest of us) either opposing it or just keeping their mouths shut about it. The parents would be similarly divided, though with some overlap to account for parent/child political differences.
The situation would make national headlines and the school would face so much backlash that the Diocese just quits operating schools in southern GA.
I would guess that Georgia is a much different place than Canada.
Exactly why I’m glad Louisiana catholic schools aren’t government funded. The big ones get secular as time goes on, but public funding would just make that issue worse.
Secularism is not a bad thing, but a secular “religious” school just undermines its whole point of existence.
Living in Northern Ireland this all feels strangely familiar
A notable victory for freedom was fought in Quebec. A string of legal battles were fought and won by Jehovah's Witnesses against Maurice Duplessis and the Catholic Church.
During the 50s JWs were beaten, fined, and imprisoned for practicing their faith.
These battles went right to the supreme court where the JWs won a series of landmark battles setting a precedent for freedom of religion across Canada.
Great. Now every cult that thinks I’m an affront to God can call my country home.
@@totalbrainfail1812 The QC government in this case was essentially responding to lobbying from the Catholic church to persecute a minority.
Freedom of belief is part of being in Canada. Whether that's freedom to belief in a Creator or freedom to belief one doesn't exist.
Of course, freedom is never absolute. If one chooses to profess to be a worshipper of the Mayan god of death and start trying to do human sacrifices, for example.
Or if one freely beliefs that survival of the fittest means they should start executing the old and lame... and go down the road of Eugenics.
The case in QC ensured freedom for more than just Jehovah's Witnesses... and I'm pretty sure you'll find JWs haven't done any government lobbying to persecute other belief systems, race, or minority... anywhere in the world.
In some provinces though the Catholic schools are NOT public schools, they're independant/private just like any other religious or secular non-public schools.
It's just important people know this so that say a family that follows another religion like say Hinduism doesn't just move to another province thinking "oh even though the local secular public schools are kind of bad we'll just enroll our kid in a local Catholic school" only to be told by the local small Catholic schools "sorry we don't have enough space for your kid and even if we maybe did we have a policy of reserving those spots for Catholic kids first even though we have nothing against Hindus."
They're still legally required to teach the same curriculum as normal public schools. However they only receive one-third the public funding of public schools, they need the parents to pay yearly tuition and since they don't have as much money as other schools they don't have room or funding to teach many students they usually only accept Catholic kids as students.
That Union Jack hurts me, JJ.
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I went through Canadian catholic school system, and in high scool, there were lots of presentations and discussions about the what it means to be lgbt and peoples' experiences of both acceptance and discrimination. Crazy to think in Florida, they're passing laws that stifle education, censor discussion, and ban materials like books that are relelated to anything lgbt.
In the early 2000s still in Hawaii Catholic highschools still had a 90% of kids going on to higher education, where as public schools lots of kids dropped out as soon as they could and worked in the service industry. However, there are always jobs available in service industry due to tourism, so they are at least able to survive.
I’m in catholic school right now and all we do that religious is say a prayer at the beginning of the school day
As someone who has attended French Catholic school for elementary and high school, they are identical to public other than having a religion & spirituality class and attending church once a month or during religious celebrations. I also personally preferred it as I found compared to the public schools in my city the quality of education and school culture was better. The staff cared more, and you actually used French. If anyone is also unaware Canada offers French immersion schools, but I have yet to meet a single person who has graduated from one that knows or understands more than what you'd learn in a high school Spanish class.
I disagree here. Even in western Canada, those I've met who went through French immersion speak French better than your average cereal-box reader.
However, it's just that you rarely know they took French immersion because the language is the least useful language out west... apart from reading the back of the cereal box.
Spanish, Chinese, Korea, Vietnamese are all just more useful in day to day life.
I took French (and loved it, btw) but I still recognize that it's use is quite limited unless you want to hold a bilingual government job.
@@TheNewGreenIsBlue I'll take your word on western Canada as I live in eastern (specifically Ontario) Canada.
Here though there is a larger demand for bilingual jobs in a lot of sectors as there is a significantly larger French population in both of the province (especially the northern part and close to the Quebec border) and with Quebec next door.
As for the immersion schools the experience here in Ontario that I have with is most say they did not retain or learn much to be considered bilingual.
@@TheNewGreenIsBlue Sorry but America is not only the world. Outside of America, yes french is useful. So stop saying bs that french is useless when you can go in Europe or Africa or Québec. French is way more useful than Vietnam in the world. Si can you stop complaining and saying bs? You can have accès with more things in internet with french and you can communicate un french if you want to use IT.
To be fair the french catholic school in my area was much better than the french public school.
But it was mostly due to a new catholic school being built and just no one enrolling in the public one causing it to eventually shut down.
State school in England is full of church of england schools seems like default yes we had hymns and church but mostly ignored and we get RE lessons on atheism and all. But its still weird, well in fact the basic non-comittal form of CofE is pretty weird in that most following it dont actually participate in it and are effectively secular until christmas. State as in public, as public in uk means a state school for higher achievers i.e. grammar school with entrance exam.
But its easy to forget we basically have a combined religion-state when we are more secular and atheist than a lot of countries (and not including those non-participating CofE in those stats, it would otherwise be more)
Well I was born ☦️Catholic with my 🇲🇽Mexican parents in Dallas TX and they both also speak 🇺🇸English as well as my aunts and uncles
Hey you showed the Waterloo Catholic School Board logo! I am attending one of their schools. Due to it size Waterloo doesn’t get mentioned that often.
That is a system that is working for no one, or rather very few. The religious are getting a quality of schools they do not want, and the remainder are in the slightly better position of having schools that superficially are against their desires
Makes me wanna watch, Jesus from Montréal!
In Québec, since 2000, the school boards (now named Centre de Services or Service Centers in English) are divided by languages and not religion. There are still Catholic religious schools but they are private schools, not public.
And all the schools, whether public, private, french or english, need to follow the curicculum that the Ministère de l'Éducation publish. If they aren't following it, it's considered an illegal school.