豊田そごう からくり時計12時
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2024
- 豊田そごうのイッツ・ア・スモールワールド時計（世界の人形時計）の12時です。
ちょうどメンテナンスをしていたらしく2の文字盤の左の人形がワンテンポ遅れて開きます。
梯子で時計の後ろに入って作業されていますね。2000年8月25日撮影。
豊田そごうの時計の設置年なんですが、説明プレートを撮り忘れてしまい何年設置かわからないままでした…が！調べて下さった方がいて1992年11月だそうです！
ちなみに各時計の設置年なのですが
1985年 横浜9月
1987年 大宮3月
1988年 広島
1989年 加古川9月 奈良10月 多摩10月
1990年 呉3月(89年モデル？) 西神10月 徳島10月
1991年 川口10月 心斎橋11月
1992年 茂原3月 福山4月 柚木6月 豊田11月 柏12月
1993年 小倉10月
1994年 千葉6月
1996年 神戸三ノ宮
のようです。※横浜・広島は6の文字盤のシンボルの年数表記から、その他は説明プレート・開店時期・新聞記事等から確認
設置年モデルの見分け方ですがいくつか考察できます。
①SEIKOとDisneyのロゴの配置位置
90年以前のモデルは中央部にSEIKO・左下にマーク左側のDisneyのロゴ(大宮は1段表記)、91年以降のモデルは左下にSEIKO・右下にマーク右側のDisneyのロゴ(3×9タイプは1段表記でマーク左側
※横浜・神戸三ノ宮はSEIKOロゴのみ
②アフリカの人形が持ってる黄色い本のラインの色
89年～91年モデルは赤、92年以降のモデルと横浜・大宮は緑(黒に近い緑)
③日本の人形が持っている本に描かれている銀色の丸の数
91年モデルと広島は左右各1箇所の2個、それ以外は左側に1個
④ブラジルの人形の頭飾りの装飾の模様
91年モデルはアシンメトリー、それ以外はシンメトリー
※心斎橋・川口で模様の描かれていない場所は違う
⑤イタリアの人形のスカートの裾の黒い丸の模様の数
90年モデルと広島は5つ、それ以外は4つ
⑥人形の脚の付け根の部分の彩色
Ⅰ：スカンジナビアの女の子の人形
大宮を除く89年モデル以前は付け根部分無し、90年モデルは赤、91年モデル以降と大宮は白
Ⅱ：アフリカの人形
大宮を除く89年モデル以前は付け根部分無し、90年モデルは茶色、91年モデル以降と大宮は白
※呉は90年設置だが脚の付け根部分無し
Ⅲ：イギリスの人形
90年モデルのみ赤
※呉は90年設置だが白
Ⅳ：パプアニューギニアの人形
92年モデル以降と横浜・大宮は白 ※小倉・神戸三ノ宮は確認できませんでしたが、3×9タイプは下段に配置のため、時計自体の設置高さ・撮影角度によっては見えないかもしれません
⑦スカンジナビアの男の子の人形のアコーディオンの白いロゴ
横浜・広島と90～91年モデルはロゴ無し、89年モデルと92年モデル以降と大宮はロゴ有り
※呉は90年設置だがロゴ有り(中央上部)
⑧イギリスの人形の腰に付けてる鞄の白い3本ラインの模様
92年4月以前のモデルは見える、92年6月以降のモデルは見えない
⑨インドネシアの人形の楽器の土台との接続部分
92年モデル前期と横浜は細くなって高くなっている、92年後期モデルは細くなっているが高さ変わらず(柚木は映像から確認できず)
以上から92年後期モデルではないかと推測していました。
また90年設置の呉ですが、スカンジナビア人形以外の上記は89年モデル仕様なので89年モデルなのでしょうか…？
大宮も87年設置ですが、人形の仕様が92年以降のモデルなので、92年以降途中で人形を入れ替えたりしたのでしょうか…？
他にもモデル仕様ではなく各店のオリジナル仕様として、以下のものが確認できています。
・インドネシアの人形が登場時左手を上げている(徳島･柏)
・スカンジナビアの女の子の人形のスカートの縦のラインが6本(柚木･大宮)
・韓国の人形の扇が両手持ち(奈良)
・ドイツの縦笛の人形の髪の色が黄色(奈良)
・インドネシアの人形の楽器が一部(左下)小さい(呉)
・スカンジナビアの男の子の人形のアコーディオンの黒鍵が7鍵(横浜)
・アメリカの人形の投げ縄が回転式(横浜)
・イギリスの人形の脚の色が緑(豊田)
・アフリカの左側の人形の右足のアンクレットが白(心斎橋)
・アメリカの人形の髪の色が黄色(横浜･奈良)
・日本の人形の頭にお花(神戸三ノ宮)
・ドイツのスーザフォンの人形のベルとバルブの接続部分が外れている(豊田)
小さい頃母親に連れられてこの時計を見に行くのがとても好きでした
貴重な映像を残してくださりありがとうございます
豊田そごう、懐い。
今じゃ台湾のそごうまで行かないと見れないもんね…
地元そごうの12時の映像まで…！！
本当に本当にありがとうございます！！！
りんりんさん、こちらこそありがとうございます！！
12時の映像を先に出そうか迷ったのですが、これはこれでレアな映像だったので、11時の分を先に出すことにしました(笑)
からくり時計可愛い物しかない
広島は1988年11月、神戸は1996年4月28日に設置されました。
I miss Toyota Sogo.
Nowadays, you have to go to Sogo in Taiwan 🇹🇼 and Australia 🇦🇺 to see it.
寂しい😔 松阪屋になっても嬉しいけど SOGOに行った記憶がよみがえる
松坂屋は2021年9月30日に 豊田店は閉店します
いろんな文献に「後ろにメンテナンス用のスペースが〜」と書いてあったので気になっていましたが下から入ってメンテナンスするんですね！
各店の考察とても参考になりました！
動画ありがとうございます！
いえいえ！こちらこそありがとうございます！
実際にメンテナンスしている光景を偶然にも見れて驚きました！！
There are a few things you can consider about how to tell the model year of installation.
@ Position of SEIKO and Disney logos: Models before 1990 have SEIKO in the center, mark on the bottom left Disney logo on the left (Omiya is written in one row), models after 1991 have SEIKO in the bottom left, mark on the bottom right on the right Disney logo (3×9 type
is marked in one row on the left side
*Yokohama/Brisbane/Melbourne/Adelaide/Sydney/Kobe Sannomiya only has the SEIKO logo The color of the lines on the yellow books held by African dolls: Red for models from 1989 to 1991, green for models from 1992 and Yokohama/
Omiya (green close to black) •The number of silver circles drawn on the book held by the Japanese
doll 1991 model and Hiroshima have 2 pieces, 1 on each side on the left and all others have 1 on
the left side.
© Decorative patterns on Brazilian doll headdresses The 1991 model is asymmetrical, the others are symmetrical *The areas where
the pattern is not drawn in Shinsaibashi and Kawaguchi are different. Number of black circles on the hem of the Italian doll's skirt: 5 on
the 1990 model and Hiroshima, 4 on the other models © The color of the lines on the yellow books held by African dolls: Red for models from 1989 to 1991, and green for models from 1992 and Yokohama/
Omiya (green close to black)
® Number of silver circles drawn on books held by Japanese dolls: 1991 model
and
Hiroshima have 2 circles, one on each side, and all others have one on the left.
1 on the side
© Decorative patterns on Brazilian doll headdresses The 1991 model is asymmetrical, the others are symmetrical *The areas
where no pattern is drawn in Shinsaibashi and Kawaguchi are different. •Number of black circles on the hem of the Italian doll's skirt: 5 on
the 1990 model and Hiroshima, 4 on the other models •Coloring the base of the doll's
legs I: Scandinavian girl doll Models before 1989 (excluding Omiya) have no base, 1990 models are
red, and 1991 and later models and Omiya are white.
Il: African doll Models before 1989 (excluding Omiya) have no base, 1990 models are
brown, 1991 models and later models and Omiya are white.
*Kure was installed in 1990, but there is no groin part.
1Il: British dolls
90 model only red
*Kure was established in 1990, but white. IV: Papa New Guinea dolls 1992 model and later, Yokohama and Omiya are white *Kokura and Kobe Sannomiya We were not able to confirm this, but since the 3x9 type is placed on the lower tier, it may not be visible depending on the installation height of the clock itself
and the shooting angle. •Scandinavian boy doll accordion white Scandinavian boy doll accordion white
logo Yokohama/Hiroshima and 1990-91 models do not have a logo, 1989 model,
1992 model and later, and Omiya have a logo
*Kure was installed in 1990 but has a logo (upper center)
@ The white three-line pattern on the bag worn on the waist of the
British
doll. It is visible on models before April 1992, but not on models
after June 1992. o The connecting part of the Indonesian doll's instrument to the base. The early 1992 model and Yokohama are thinner and taller. The later 1992 model is thinner but the height remains the same (Yuzuki cannot
be confirmed from the video)
Based on the above, I assumed it was a late 1992
model. Also, Kure was installed in 1990, but the ones listed above other than the Scandinavian dolls are 1989 model specifications, so maybe they are 1989
models..? Omiya was also installed in 1987, but the doll specifications are from 1992 onwards, so I wonder if the dolls were replaced midway through 1992? Also, Kure was installed in 1990, but the ones listed above other than the Scandinavian dolls are 1989 model specifications, so maybe they are 1989
models...? Omiya was also installed in 1987, but the doll specifications are from 1992 onwards, so I wonder if the dolls were replaced midway
through 1992....? In addition, we have confirmed the following as original specifications
of each store rather than model specifications.
An Indonesian doll raises its left hand when it appears (Tokushima/Kashiwa
• Vertical rise of Scandinavian girl doll skirt
6 fans (Yuzuki/Omiya) •
Korean doll fans held in both hands (Nara) •The hair color of the German flute doll is yellow (Nara) • Some
of the instruments of the Indonesian dolls are small (bottom left (Kure)
•Scandinavian boy doll accordion black
7 keys (Yokohama)
• Rotating American doll lasso (Yokohama)
British dolls have green legs (Toyota)
•The anklet on the right leg of the African doll on the left side is white (Shinsaibashi) The
hair color of the American doll is yellow (Yokohama/Nara
• Flowers on the head of a Japanese doll (Kobe
Sannomiya) • Connection between the bell and valve of a German sousaphone doll
The minute is off (Toyota).
そごうの時計好きですね
同じです、でも物心ついたらもう無かった（泣）
あー 懐かしい。( ノД`)…
令和3年9月30日には 松坂屋も終了します。 懐かしくて涙が止まりません。
貴重な映像をありがとうございます🍀
(REMAKE) There are a few things you can consider about how to tell the model year of installation.
@ Position of SEIKO and Disney logos: Models before 1990 have SEIKO in the center, mark on the bottom left Disney logo on the left (Omiya is written in one row), models after 1991 have SEIKO in the bottom left, mark on the bottom right on the right Disney logo (3×9 type
is marked in one row on the left side
*Yokohama/Brisbane/Melbourne/Adelaide/Sydney/Kobe Sannomiya only has the SEIKO logo The color of the lines on the yellow books held by African dolls: Red for models from 1989 to 1991, green for models from 1992 and Yokohama/
Omiya (green close to black) •The number of silver circles drawn on the book held by the Japanese
doll 1991 model and Hiroshima have 2 pieces, 1 on each side on the left and all others have 1 on
the left side.
Decorative patterns on Brazilian doll headdresses The 1991 model is asymmetrical, the others are symmetrical *The areas where
the pattern is not drawn in Shinsaibashi and Kawaguchi are different. Number of black circles on the hem of the Italian doll's skirt: 5 on
the 1990 model and Hiroshima, 4 on the other models The color of the lines on the yellow books held by African dolls: Red for models from 1989 to 1991, and green for models from 1992 and Yokohama/
Omiya (green close to black)
Number of silver circles drawn on books held by Japanese dolls: 1991 model
and
Hiroshima have 2 circles, one on each side, and all others have one on the left.
1 on the side
Decorative patterns on Brazilian doll headdresses The 1991 model is asymmetrical, the others are symmetrical *The areas
where no pattern is drawn in Shinsaibashi and Kawaguchi are different. •Number of black circles on the hem of the Italian doll's skirt: 5 on
the 1990 model and Hiroshima, 4 on the other models •Coloring the base of the doll's
legs I: Scandinavian girl doll Models before 1989 (excluding Omiya) have no base, 1990 models are
red, and 1991 and later models and Omiya are white.
Il: African doll Models before 1989 (excluding Omiya) have no base, 1990 models are
brown, 1991 models and later models and Omiya are white.
*Kure was installed in 1990, but there is no groin part.
1Il: British dolls
90 model only red
*Kure was established in 1990, but white. IV: Papa New Guinea dolls 1992 model and later, Yokohama and Omiya are white *Kokura and Kobe Sannomiya We were not able to confirm this, but since the 3x9 type is placed on the lower tier, it may not be visible depending on the installation height of the clock itself
and the shooting angle. •Scandinavian boy doll accordion white Scandinavian boy doll accordion white
logo Yokohama/Hiroshima and 1990-91 models do not have a logo, 1989 model,
1992 model and later, and Omiya have a logo
*Kure was installed in 1990 but has a logo (upper center)
@ The white three-line pattern on the bag worn on the waist of the
British
doll. It is visible on models before April 1992, but not on models
after June 1992. o The connecting part of the Indonesian doll's instrument to the base. The early 1992 model and Yokohama are thinner and taller. The later 1992 model is thinner but the height remains the same (Yuzuki cannot
be confirmed from the video)
Based on the above, I assumed it was a late 1992
model. Also, Kure was installed in 1990, but the ones listed above other than the Scandinavian dolls are 1989 model specifications, so maybe they are 1989
models..? Omiya was also installed in 1987, but the doll specifications are from 1992 onwards, so I wonder if the dolls were replaced midway through 1992? Also, Kure was installed in 1990, but the ones listed above other than the Scandinavian dolls are 1989 model specifications, so maybe they are 1989
models...? Omiya was also installed in 1987, but the doll specifications are from 1992 onwards, so I wonder if the dolls were replaced midway
through 1992....? In addition, we have confirmed the following as original specifications
of each store rather than model specifications.
An Indonesian doll raises its left hand when it appears (Tokushima/Kashiwa
• Vertical rise of Scandinavian girl doll skirt
6 fans (Yuzuki/Omiya) •
Korean doll fans held in both hands (Nara) •The hair color of the German flute doll is yellow (Nara) • Some
of the instruments of the Indonesian dolls are small (bottom left (Kure)
•Scandinavian boy doll accordion black
7 keys (Yokohama)
• Rotating American doll lasso (Yokohama)
British dolls have green legs (Toyota)
•The anklet on the right leg of the African doll on the left side is white (Shinsaibashi) The
hair color of the American doll is yellow (Yokohama/Nara
• Flowers on the head of a Japanese doll (Kobe
Sannomiya/Canberra) • Connection between the bell and valve of a German sousaphone doll
The minute is off (Toyota).
(REREMAKE)
There are a few things you can consider about how to tell the model year of installation.
@ Position of SEIKO and Disney logos: Models before 1990 have SEIKO in the center, mark on the bottom left Disney logo on the left (Omiya is written in one row), models after 1991 have SEIKO in the bottom left, mark on the bottom right on the right Disney logo (3×9 type
is marked in one row on the left side
*Yokohama/Brisbane/Melbourne/Adelaide/Canberra/Sydney/Kobe Sannomiya only has the SEIKO logo The color of the lines on the yellow books held by African dolls: Red for models from 1989 to 1991, green for models from 1992 and Yokohama/
Omiya (green close to black) •The number of silver circles drawn on the book held by the Japanese
doll 1991 model and Hiroshima have 2 pieces, 1 on each side on the left and all others have 1 on
the left side.
Decorative patterns on Brazilian doll headdresses The 1991 model is asymmetrical, the others are symmetrical *The areas where
the pattern is not drawn in Shinsaibashi and Kawaguchi are different. Number of black circles on the hem of the Italian doll's skirt: 5 on
the 1990 model and Hiroshima, 4 on the other models The color of the lines on the yellow books held by African dolls: Red for models from 1989 to 1991, and green for models from 1992 and Yokohama/
Omiya (green close to black)
Number of silver circles drawn on books held by Japanese dolls: 1991 model
and
Hiroshima have 2 circles, one on each side, and all others have one on the left.
1 on the side
Decorative patterns on Brazilian doll headdresses The 1991 model is asymmetrical, the others are symmetrical *The areas
where no pattern is drawn in Shinsaibashi and Kawaguchi are different. •Number of black circles on the hem of the Italian doll's skirt: 5 on
the 1990 model and Hiroshima, 4 on the other models •Coloring the base of the doll's
legs I: Scandinavian girl doll Models before 1989 (excluding Omiya) have no base, 1990 models are
red, and 1991 and later models and Omiya are white.
Il: African doll Models before 1989 (excluding Omiya) have no base, 1990 models are
brown, 1991 models and later models and Omiya are white.
*Kure was installed in 1990, but there is no groin part.
1Il: British dolls
90 model only red
*Kure was established in 1990, but white. IV: Papa New Guinea dolls 1992 model and later, Yokohama and Omiya are white *Kokura and Kobe Sannomiya We were not able to confirm this, but since the 3x9 type is placed on the lower tier, it may not be visible depending on the installation height of the clock itself
and the shooting angle. •Scandinavian boy doll accordion white Scandinavian boy doll accordion white
logo Yokohama/Hiroshima and 1990-91 models do not have a logo, 1989 model,
1992 model and later, and Omiya have a logo
*Kure was installed in 1990 but has a logo (upper center)
@ The white three-line pattern on the bag worn on the waist of the
British
doll. It is visible on models before April 1992, but not on models
after June 1992. o The connecting part of the Indonesian doll's instrument to the base. The early 1992 model and Yokohama are thinner and taller. The later 1992 model is thinner but the height remains the same (Yuzuki cannot
be confirmed from the video)
Based on the above, I assumed it was a late 1992
model. Also, Kure was installed in 1990, but the ones listed above other than the Scandinavian dolls are 1989 model specifications, so maybe they are 1989
models..? Omiya was also installed in 1987, but the doll specifications are from 1992 onwards, so I wonder if the dolls were replaced midway through 1992? Also, Kure was installed in 1990, but the ones listed above other than the Scandinavian dolls are 1989 model specifications, so maybe they are 1989
models...? Omiya was also installed in 1987, but the doll specifications are from 1992 onwards, so I wonder if the dolls were replaced midway
through 1992....? In addition, we have confirmed the following as original specifications
of each store rather than model specifications.
An Indonesian doll raises its left hand when it appears (Tokushima/Kashiwa
• Vertical rise of Scandinavian girl doll skirt
6 fans (Yuzuki/Omiya) •
Korean doll fans held in both hands (Nara) •The hair color of the German flute doll is yellow (Nara) • Some
of the instruments of the Indonesian dolls are small (bottom left (Kure)
•Scandinavian boy doll accordion black
7 keys (Yokohama)
• Rotating American doll lasso (Yokohama)
British dolls have green legs (Toyota)
•The anklet on the right leg of the African doll on the left side is white (Shinsaibashi) The
hair color of the American doll is yellow (Yokohama/Nara
• Flowers on the head of a Japanese doll (Kobe
Sannomiya/Canberra) • Connection between the bell and valve of a German sousaphone doll
The minute is off (Toyota).
1:15日本人形の角を変える動作がわかりやすいwwww
こうやって、メンテナンスするんですね‼
そうみたいですね！メンテナンスしているところを見たのは初めてだったので驚きました！
By the way, this is the year each clock was installed.
1985: Yokohama September Sydney December
May 1986: Adelaide
Omiya
March 1987
1988
Hiroshima, May Brisbane
1989
Melbourne May Kakogawa September Nara October
Tama October
1990
Kure March (89 model?) Seishin October Tokushima October
1991 Kawaguchiko
1992 Mobara Toyota
Brisbane doesn’t have a Tokyo Disneyland logo
現在は松坂屋豊田店になってるそうです
現在は松坂屋になっていますよね…！時計のあった場所も時計は撤去されてしまいましたし…！
そうだったのですね。
ありがとうございました。
松坂屋も閉店したよ
0:32 ﾌｼｭｰｰｰｯ
何の音？
@@user-qo2st2ci4x 後ろのポンプ？の音だと思います
お母さんがよく見に行ってました
tock６１０さん豊田そごうってどこに設置してありましたか?
調べた限りではA館の正面入り口に設置されていたと思います！
@@tock6107 エッ?!Ａ館とかなんてあったんすね！
正面入口が設置位置なら、劣化はそこまで早くなかったのでは？
Sogo Sydney Looks like Sogo Kure but with the same pitch as this video (-1)
東京ディズニーランドからくり時計🕛イッツ・ア・スモールワールドだ🕛
徳島のは日本人形が阿波踊り人形に置き換わってるってどっかのウェブサイトで見たんですがー？
当時そごう閉店後にあった 柚木、多摩、奈良、豊田、加古川、心斎橋、福山、小倉にあるけど もうこの時計はないんだよな。
今入ってやろうなぁ他の全然よく
横浜のそごうのやつとは音程違うね。
Also this was the same issue that happened in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide, they could NOT fix the issue forever.
音程 半音 ほどじゃないけど 低くない
概要欄ミス 発見 他のそごうと 人形の材質が違う横浜
廃盤になってるやつ庵野
時計は撤去
今はないのかなあ
豊田そごう自体有りません。
今あるそごうでは、この時計はみんなカラクリが止まってます😢
説明欄ミス?発見
広島が何月か書いてないですよ
広島は設置が年までしかわからなかったのです…何月設置かご存知の方いらっしゃいますかね？
そうなんですね、すいません
確か３月と聞いたような気がします。間違えてたらすいません
@@user-ty7xd1kz9o 11月ですよ。
800万円で売れたのかね😅
(REMAKE AGAIN)
By the way, this is the year each clock was installed.
1985: Yokohama September Sydney December
May 1986: Adelaide
March 1987: Omiya
1988: Hiroshima, May Brisbane
1989 Melbourne May Canberra September Kakogawa September Nara October Tama October
1990 Kure March (89 model?) Seishin October Tokushima October
1991 Kawaguchiko October Shinsaibashi November
1992 Mobara March Fukuyama April Yunoki June Toyota November Kashiwa December
1993 Kokura October
1994 Chiba June
1996 Kobe Sannomiya
3:21 8の文字盤の人形ってタイ❓バリ❓インドネシア❓
インドネシアは7
2:44 10の文字盤ってトルコ❓エジプト❓
(REMAKE)
By the way, this is the year each clock was installed.
1985: Yokohama September Sydney December
May 1986: Adelaide
March 1987: Omiya
1988: Hiroshima, May Brisbane
1989 Melbourne May Kakogawa September Nara October Tama October
1990 Kure March (89 model?) Seishin October Tokushima October
1991 Kawaguchiko October Shinsaibashi November
1992 Mobara March Fukuyama April Yunoki June Toyota November Kashiwa December
1993 Kokura October
1994 Chiba June
1996 Kobe Sannomiya
オープニングの1と2の間のパネルの動きが違う。
1:12ここが
当時メンテを行っていたから遅れて登場してます。