Big Gun or Little Gun? Swedish Edition!
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2020
- World of Tanks. Today I'm asking the question if it should be big gun or little gun on the T7 Swedish Leo!
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@Jesse Vonk oh, gurl I’m a very proud size queen XD
Jesse Vonk yeah what a shame
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Venator Films I’m pretty sure this Jesse is a dude lol.
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Leopard PTA is a Tier VII medium tank :)
hehe
Lol
Ah, yes. The infamous Tier VII medium tank: Leopard PTA
Feels kinda op
I played this tank, and researched both 8 tiers. I wanted to stay on the "small gun" because of the rate of fire and higher penetration & accuracy, however after approximately 70 battles with no ace tanker, I decided to try another "big gun", and yeah, since then I did ace tanker, and had better battles.
I did exactly the same thing! I almost did not try the "big gun" because most of the posts favored the "small gun". However, my fun rate went way up with the "big gun" and hence my performance. I think that which gun is best for this tank is mostly related to one's play style.
BIG DIC
I mean seriously, no armor, OK mobility, you want to have a punch at least
Jakub Kaczmarek dont underestimate small guns man. I troll so many people with my A-43 57mm gun which has good mobility good gun handling and over 2700 damage per minute. Often they cant even understand what happened when they i kill them and im already ran away.
@@matufujiwara7493 yeah but having to stand Infront of people for 5 min to kill them isn't fun. High DMG is better than high DMP in this meta
@@alexstromberg7696 where did i mention standing in front of them for 5mins. A-43 57mm standard pen is shit, and as i am being a free to play, my only option is agressiveness or camping. thats where comes in good mobility, good spotting distance, good camo and tactics. try to get behind them by going around a hill or something. if that aint possible then just push in with max speed and do circles around them. these two can usually be done in places where are no bushes, and enemy doesnt have anyone who supports him. i manage to take max 3 tanks at same time if enemies are donkeys. with spotting distance at 427 you spot really good for tier 6 tank. i have 20% camo rating atm, but i dont have the camo skill maxed out yet, but it is better than most of the equal tier tank camos. plus the mobily and gun handling is so good that i just peak out my nose shoot, and when he shoots me im already reversing so he hits the very edge of my tank and i bounce it when trading in long ranges so i really dont see a problem. when pushing tier 6 tanks, then i usually take 100-200 dmg while doing 700-800dmg.
altho on leo, i would probably be using 300dmg gun. leo isnt really that mobile, to make 75mm really shine at its best.
@@matufujiwara7493 yeah try flanking in this game, we both know 90% of the time you can't get behind anyone.
With a poor free to play crew, good luck snapshotting (so you wont stay in front of enemies) with the big gun when there is any distance. I found it works best in city environments where distances are short.
With the 75mm the Leo becomes a better Comet imo. as it has better gunhandling but everything else pretty much the same.
Also the armor can be trolly if you know how to use it.
I'm sure we had this discussion before. I love the 105
*Imagines the E-50 M getting the option to auto-reload*
... I'll be alright with that.
imagine IS-7 getting the 183 mm gun.
I'll be alright with that :)
@@harbinger1737
They cant fit a 183 in that turre-
Ivan, make a steel box and stick that 183 in it blyat
@@HMSNeptun Slap together as much armor as possible comrade, send in battle!
the problem of E50m is that the gun handling is so damn BAD
Comes with ten round 88mm L/100 gun
7:50 Also, with a 105 you can load HE and actually do something, as opposed to a 76 HE round. Against on-tier opponents, you can fight like a sherman or jumbo. You probably won't take hardly any premium rounds and just a good mix of standard and HE.
I recall starting a game HE penning a Peter at the start and my french teammate finished him off. Always nice to start a game like that.
Wargaming should listen to this insted of adding a premium tank that is the same like tech tree one but a difrenet gun like cromwell or cromwell B
WG is all about money, not playability.
have you seen the ISU-152k leak?
I came to make this comment, just from the other direction. ;) WG doesn't want to add more gun options to tech tree tanks, that way they can sell a tech tree tank with a different gun.
@@longboweod thats a good point sir 👌
QB: Made that tier 7 run away...
Me: *Twitching stare face* Jingles? You call the PTA tier 7 tanku? LuL
next time you shuld do the conway
it has two competative guns
one with rate of fire and DPM
and the other has big alpha
also, great video!
keep up the good work!
That's the vehicle that really makes you think hard about what you want to use. I ended up using the big one because the STRVs are a pain in the ass while the small gun is the gun used in the S.Conqueror and Tortoise and it's always a dpm monster.
@veracsthane Eh, possibly.
122mm is inferior to the 100mm in absolutely every way but alpha damage and HE pen.
People know about the 122m long reload so they abuse it as well.
@veracsthane You can't compare that one because the 122mm gun in the KV85 is just stupid, any player using that gun in that tank is an idiot, the DPM gap is too abysmal.
I like minimal exposure lightning fast snap shots over a ridge in this so the big gun works with that.
I found your videos are very educative to new and on going players! You have my subscribe dude
Great contribution here, QB: thanks. I agree completely with you about having a machine in the garage with versatile guns.!
I was telling myself this afternoon about the gun, and as always, QB has the good ideas and i was making the sale ideas so i bought the big gun after 60 games with the 75mm but no change for the moment, as you said, it's very different play styles. Thks and interesting stuff as always
I wonder if part of the reason they don't have multiple options for competitive guns as to not confuse players, especially having to figure out what gun your enemy is using
Was just gonna check if you were live, cause I wanted gameplay! :)
I always learn something from watching your videos and your streams. It might be a better way to set up your tank or a spot on the map i previously ignored or anyone of a thousand other things but it is always something. Thanks.
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Man, wish I enjoyed this game as much as you did, either way, love your videos!
I'm enjoying my Swedish HT line. Currently at the Emil, my first real auto-loader and it is a dream of a vehicle. I cannot wait to take it into Frontline.
As for the Leo, I played it with the 75mm. It was a breeze of a tank and I did enjoy it, however it left me wanting after my T20 that I no longer own. I just loved that wee American MT. It helped me to learn my MT craft and will remain a special vehicle for me.
Great video as always QB. Lookin' forward to what you have scheduled for this weekend.
Thanks QB, you're one of the content creator.. Really put yourself to understand free2play player..
Hey QB I’ve been recently playing with both the 90 and 105 on the type 61. Both great! Cent. 7/1 similar style too!
As an average player: big gun for me. I don't reliably find opportunities to use the DPM on an unarmored medium without getting killed, but the big gun lets me hit a same-tier tank for a third of its health. I hated the Leo until I got the 105.
Aaa I just grinded out the kranvagn only a month or 2 ago. Brilliant luck with the top of the tree
Yes! Thanks QB, that's the vid I've needed right now! Cheers from Poland!
Je already made a vid like this years ago x)
More videos in format like this :) rly usefull, like it
QuickyBaby you are amazing. Love your content
So starting in 2020 we're expressing armor thickness as a caliber. Good to know QB!
I had a lot more fun playing as an ambush tank with the big gun. I had a hard time with that tank's effective traverse most of the times when I tried to use its mobility (this with the smaller gun).
Totally agree, more gun options please.
I think you should be able to play a particular loadout based on the map you are about to play. How awesome would that be if you could select equipment and gun based on the map you are about to play?
I play the 105 and I love the mobility of this tank. The 105 also improves more the better your crew gets, I have BIA, snap shot and smooth ride, play wth vents and a rammer and it really makes the 105 work much better than the 75.
Lol I literally just got the leo. I am on the email 2 and gonna get to the kranvagn during this top of the tree but I re brought the leo as it is on discount so I can also go up the Swedish medium line. I am loving it with the 300 alpha gun
E 50 has also two different gun, with the 88mm better pen, and awesome DPM (at least 3000), love that
remember when the Chinese and German lights had auto-loader options, pepperidge farmer remembers. To be fair the auto reloaders and dual rifle tanks where at least interesting releases, and the Swedish too all their mid-high tier tanks are unique.
Good vid. Still gonna stick with the 105. More dmg with ever shot works fine for me. As it has low bounch potential.
I 3-marked the Leo with the 75mm quite a while ago. The gun handling, shell velocity and reload time makes it MUCH more versatile. Personally found the 105mm to be like a derp gun pretending to be a "standard" gun. You either peekaboo brawl with it or shoot at stationary targets at medium range.
LOVE THIS TANK SM
You should put dap on that what shows your reload time sir...
I found leo well balanced and great supprisingly enjoyable tank in overall
Panzer IV with 105 or 75mm Makes the tank fun to play. Love the Derp.
I really enjoyed going up this line and used the big gun at this tier.
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when I played through the Leo - I gave up on the 105... It was just too Derpy - Even with a good crew and running food - It was still too frustrating to keep throwing shots!
Same for the E50. Choice between 88mm low alpha/high dpm or 105 high alpha/lower dpm. And really, when are you ever firing continuously in a battle?
Can you make a same video about E 50? 105mm or 88mm? That would be very interesting.
The disappointment of missing a fully aimed shot usually comes with 103-tanks, or Progettos, for me... GG Wargaming
The title would make more sense if it was
"Thicc gun or Long gun?"
When he was running away from the 430 I was like: NIGERUNDAYO SMOKEY
I would use the bigger gun, basically because it overmatches the STRV S1, something not many consider but it's extremely important nowdays.
Here is a few one that you can change competitively.
KV1S(85mm,122mm howizer)
KV85(100mm,122mm D25T)
IS(100mm D10T, 122mm D2-5T)
KV3(107mm, 122mm D2-5T)
T44(100mm, 122mm D25T)
T34-85(85mm(160alpha),85mm(180alpha)
Panzer IV Ausf. H, Jagdpanzer 38t Hetzer(105mm howizer, 75mm L/40)
Thanks QB.
I tried both guns on the Leo and got MUCH more successful with the 105mm gun just because i can handle high alpha guns better. I like to peek-a-boom with my tanks and the 105 is the better Option for me.
Still tried to grind it as fast as possible. I absolutely love the high tier meds. Love the tier 10 and kept the tier 8
I always played it as a supporter.
Both guns have pros and cons.
Small gun: better DPM, Pen and RoF / low damage per shot means you have to fire constantly to rack up damage. And as you have paper armor, you cannot just sit there and blaze away.
105mm gun: better Alpha and module damage, high fear factor against lower tiers, you can almost always out-trade same tier and lower tier tanks (but never try to 1v1 high DPM tanks like T-43, Comet, Cromwell or T-34-85M) / not viable for sniping because of bad gun handling. If you miss, enemies tend to rush you, if you are alone
p.43 says out loud what we all think about :D
The 75mm was OK but with the 105mm flanking and those peek a boo shenigans are working much better. And the HE hurt a lot more.
More damage AND more standard penetration? Definitely my choice, as long as the dpm is acceptable, which is in the Leo (unlike KV-85 with big gun)
Could you do a video comparison on the 90mm and 105mm on the T32?
I myself tried both guns when I unlocked the Leo. After almost a hundred games (fifty with each gun) I concluded that I far preferred the 105mm. The speed and stealth of the Leo make it a prime ambush tank, and the hefty alpha maximizes her smashing power when she sneaks up on an unsuspecting red tank. Still, anyone who wants "tame the wild firepower of the 75mm" has my respect; she competes well with either gun, you just have to adopt the proper tactics.
QB: Please make a video top 10 best tanks for F2P tanks and best tech tree for F2P heavy, medium, light and SPG.
Would be cool if all tanks had 2 guns that are good. Like the E100, Rhm, Vk 100.01p, and a few others. Doubles up the gameplay of a tank and makes you think "what gun could they be using?"
Maybe you QB or other guys have an opinion which tank in Italian tech tree will lead to HTs? T 7?
Big gun just pre-aim your turret and use your amazing mobility to clap 300 damage into people's sides
you don't have armor so just go for alpha and you will get a monster 300 alpha on tier 7 is insane and a medium tank which has 60 kmph top speed and decent hp/t
The P43 guy writing an essay in chat. Social bee right there.
Swedish medium & heavy line are the only ones which I found consistently very enjoyable. Most ppl will disagree but each of those tank I found have characteristics that I can build my strategy on. Big fan of the swedish line
I agree, I loved going up the medium line as well as the tds
3:20 tier seven medium tank? wasnt it a tier 9 leopard pta ?
the real title: "Why the big gun"
Actually i grinded that tank 2 times with both guns lol!! 1st i grinded EMIL I with the 75mm gun not even bought the 105 mm gun =P then i sold the tank and when the UDES medium tank line was anounced i bought the tank back and used the 105 mm to grind the UDES 14. Well when i bought the tank back i have a very nice crew, (i have the tier 6 swedish auto-loader premium medium tank and i like to play it from time to time so i had BIA and 6th sense like the hull and turret dispersion perks fully grinded and i was starting to grind the 3rd perk on them) so that 105 mm when i get the crew back to 100% again it started to work very nicely! for me the major diference to work with the 75mm gun we have to be 2nd or 3rd line suport tanks, more like TD's to really get the DPM working and being safe to shot multiple times, normaly beind cover when some one spots for you. Or if you are deling with very slow heavys and they are alone you can outmanouver them and flank them. those are the main ways to use that gun. The 105mm is more flexible. You can go in make a shot and pull back to cover this is a gun that is meant to be used in closer distances using cover and ridge lines pick and make the enemy make mistakes and use them to hurt them back! And if you are dealindg again with slow unsuported heavys you can do the same but do twice the amount of damage. that gun is great when you deal with lower tiers, that alpha really can wreck them very fast and that nice slope in the hull can even bounce some lower tier guns!! I even used some HE in that tank!! Men you really feel rewarded when you one shot lightly armoured tanks like T67 a lot of light tanks and allmoust all artys!!!
Big Gun is the Way to Go for me...plays like a Lansen C
the T20 and Tiger P can be played very differently with their different guns too
F2P can do all those things with the exception of buying premium tanks and drastically reduced access to zero perk crews provided the player is efficient which is more than what can be said of most paying players. As for the crews it helps to delay moving up until there is 1.5-2.5 rows of crew perks so by the time one gets to tier 8 they won't be fucked only having just the bare minimum plus crew books are a big help.
Big gun or small gun? Big pp
Ok i'll leave
How nice of WG to release fast track to the Kranvagn exactly 1 day after I unlock the bastard and purchase it at full price....
Should I free exp the heavy line? I have about 70 Swedish fragments and 80000 free exp, and love the strv 103b.
I hated the 75 because nobody actually fears you (They will peek once, see that you only did 150 and then rush you), once you hit them once with the 300 damage, they most likely wont try again. Also with the 75 you HAVE to sit and make use of the DPM to actually achieve anything, with the 100mm you can just peek, shoot your shot (possibly even overmatch your target) and retreat. If you want to do the same 300 with the 75, you have to sit there or peek 2 times.
My average damage has shot up after changing the gun, especially in uptiers
I really want the Kranvagn, but I can’t play the Leo, something about it is a bit weird. Would you liken it to a comet?
The tank at the start is really hard to play because it doesn't have any strong points, it's an average at best tank and the armor is crap so people will shoot you with HE. Sometimes it works and sometimes you just get one shotted because people rush your ass. You need to find a position where you can shoot and hide after each big shot with the 105mm, I also snapshot when I'm peaking over a ridge line even if it doesn't hit it's better to not get fucked. Hope it helps you
Do a video about the P.43.bis Big gun or small
On the topic of guns for different playstyles: goddamn it weegee gimme back the 76mm autoloader on the 59-16 WITH the crap penetration! Used to be my favourite tank
I want to see you play the t34-85 with the 122 derp
I have Emil II and it's really good. Not OP, not weak, my love xD
you'll love the Kranvagn even more 😉
I liked it too because of gun, turretand depression, but god damn isn't that thing slow as fucking fuck. Ended up selling the tank after researching Kranvagn, I just couldn't deal with such shit mobility on a tank with this characteristics. Comparable sluggishness to something like E75. Holy fuck man xDD
The accuracy and aim time are much better on the 75mm. It's over 1 second less aim time and .08 more accuracy. Plus the shell velocity is better.
Hey qb! I'm on a visit in the uk right now in worthing to be exact... I just wanted to know from you if a visit in the tank museum in bovington is worth it outside of tankfest... Hope to hear from you soon.. Thanks so much in advance
wilsonsan707 if you love tanks and have the time to spare it’s a nice visit. You’ll be about 2hr 15m minimum driving it according to AA autoroute. I popped in whilst doing my tank commander’s course years ago so it has been improved a fair bit. You might see other armoured vehicles on the open roads training if a week day too.
Let us know when you're doing the burlesque challenge😜
Everytime I hear QB's intro I swear he sounds outta breath listen to it you might never unhear it again
Like QB said at the start of the video they are two different play styles. the 75mm is better if you like to move around and prefer to not fight head on kind of like light tanks. the 105 is more of a brawler gun more suited for those who want to play more like a med/heavy. personally I like the 105 better cause right now its all about alpha damage.
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Alpha is waay more reliable on a tank with this characteristics, since it has no armor and not a lot of hp. When I played it, I kind of enjoyed it, it's a mobile tank with big gun and 10 gun depression. The only bad thing about this tank is that the big gun is quite derpy, but using the mobility correctly, you can play at mid to close range and smack people hard.
Im currently grinding the leo and the higher caliber gun shell drops to the ground a lot
I guess you could say 50 shades of grey inbetween
I like the big gun the most.. tho the DPS will screw you sometimes.. =(
Can you do one for the KV-1 please? (57mm or 85mm) I personally use the 57mm as I don't see the the gains of using the 85mm significant enough for me to use it
The 85 will make you get used to the Soviet dispersion later down the line, when you are dealing with 122s. Generally you don't want to turn your tank while aiming, and only use W and S key to peek-a-boo. Keeping the armor angled while being ready to peek is a valuable skill in higher tiers. Also the 85 will make you stop to shoot, as the reload time is longer. This is yet another good reason to use the 85 as later down the line you get 122s that have over 10s reload with a 50% crew. So, the 85 will make you have better patient to aim
But you probably won't need to aim anyway the cold dead hand of Stalin will guide your shell to the target.
While we are on on this topic... GO BIG OR GO HOME.
They even install bumps on the ground in order to miss shots on the enemy ****
Thank you
Can you make a video on the is 3 stock. It kinda hard to play
The big gun because it’s meta due to the corridor maps heavily favoring high alpha. There’s a reason the latest premium tanks keep pushing for higher and higher alpha even though that has lead to WG considering an HP increase for all tanks in the first place.
Qb why do you always get so much experience in the battles you post. Do you have any tricks on how to get exp quicker
(3:19) We just made that tier 7 medium run away.... Since when is the PT A a tier 7?
It's kinda like the M4. Either go high DPM with the 76mm, or have a blast with the 105mm.
And in M4 Jumbo, you can have 3K dpm with the 105.
*Soooooooooo, if the game was better like back in 8.2?*
(with the good updates put in)