I've always felt like Tosh's storyline should have carried over into the Rebellion storyline. Like Tosh and his Spectres help out with the Odin and Korhal missions as repayment for Raynor helping him out.
Even the Tal'darim stole the psionic lash ability that both psionic lash and mind blast are essentially the same lol. For the uninitiated, Tosh's "Mind Blast" is actually the ultrasonic pulse just renamed, and not to be confused with the ascendant's mind blast ability which is essentially just like psionic lash that cannot hurt buildings.
Tosh was right about one thing: there will be another Mengsk who succeed current Mengsk.😂 Funny how he and Nova was a couple when he still a ghost. Mind wipe protocol ruined them. They shouldn't have put Thor units here, it shouldn't appear before the news media mission.
I wonder if GiantGrantGames would try a deathless run for this mission with some friends now that the AI won’t be there to run its troops to their deaths
I find it funny that throughout all of the conversation between Nova and Tosh, it’s ironic how the former say such things where she was kidnapped by the Dominion, on Tarsonis when it was becoming a Zerg-infested wreck, and became an experimental Ghost guinea pig. All because she was part of the Old Family of the Confederacy. Every mission she did, she had to be sedated enough where her past memories/trauma wouldn’t come up and cause a mental breakdown. Basically, Ghost and Spectres are two sides of the same coin. But thanks to the retcons, the Nova we see here is not the same Nova back then: with a good-written character. Oh, did I forgot to mention that StarCraft: Ghost game? The one that got scrapped where it showed us Nova for the first time? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Edit: Also, at 10:59, I like how Nova also tried to paint New Folsom holding the worst of the worst. In reality, most of the prisoners are simply people who challenged the empire. Mostly harmless. The few are Tosh’s Spectres. That’s it. Yet, this NEVER gets brought up until HotS when Raynor confronts with Nova and only mentions the “betrayal.” Tosh never gets brought up too. I like the Jamaican character. He’s coocoo but has good intentions in mind using the morally grey methods. Knows more than he leads on too. The fact he sees what Raynor saw from Zeratul’s visions, yet shrugs and says what he does is up to him speaks much about Tosh. Just sad the psycho never gets to be seen again.
>1:24 ''Wisely done, Mr. F̶r̶e̶e̶m̶a̶n Raynor.'' >2:03 ''The right man in the wrong place...'' >3:00 Operation: Breaking And Entering. ◽9:42 MKULTRA_ABORTED. >5:09 Family Friendly [Death Pact] Spell. >5:36 Operation: DISSENTER. >7:57 WARNING: Nuclear Silo Detected. >Angel Matt, Devil Tosh; Not Developed. >''This system has been liberated by HR Gang.''
Kind of wish for more missions like this...already toyed with one set in Covert Ops where Nova frees cells to recruit units like Hellbats, Goliaths, and Siege Tanks to join the pushing in an uprising...or trying to counter a Zerg invasion by clearing paths for Reapers and Goliaths to stem the tide. Speaking of, what additional reinforcing units would be applicable in that Protoss epilogue mission? Like I know we have Medivacs (with Marine escorts) and Thors for Terran and Mutas and Brood Lords for Zerg...and what options would there be for a whatif for Protoss? Colossi definitely, and Void Rays/Destroyers, maybe? Honestly, love those pushing missions where you help an ally advance...then get bonus objectives to amp up the pushing power.
that tosh's knife is too offensive. like...i've expected a betrayal of tosh or arresting him into the basement of the hyperion. will it be more cool if raynor say "it ain't over till it's over you son of a bitch" and hand him over to nova.
Memers: "Fenix! _(or in Alternate, James)_ No..." Blizzard: "We just saved 50 years of political prisoners..." I get that there was the choir ending to "Better Tomorrow" but why so somber at the start of the track?
@@razorback9999able And the cheat code Gantrithor i suppose has it's lore weaponry. Purifying beam together with all kinds of weaponry, broadside cannons etc...
Regardless of the so-called simping nonsense which is very insulting and makes other couples offended, I want to see more writings on Tosh, Nova, Ariel Hanson, Arcturus Mengsk, and many others from their perspective.
@@rawfleshStarCraft615We've pretty much known Mengsk's perspective of things in the first game. Nova has her solo campaign. And taking about Tosh and Ariel my guess the writers didn't know what to do with them, considering there wasn't "canon" choice in their misson, and one of the option leads to their death.
@@Kamenb1801 Well the good ending for both of them is considered the canon choice. The A canon. From SC Fandom: " Sure, yea I can say that we do say that the A choice that you made, was the canon decision. So, in terms of the SC canon, Raynor sided with Tosh and Raynor helped the colonists against Selendis. That said, I really would like to not have any player feel like their choice has been invalidated. In general, except for when the implications become overpowering, I think I'm going to try to stay away from going back and examining that stuff except when we really need to, so that you can play the game and really feel like your choices are being carried forward, and we do have the technology to check your save-game by the way. Chris Metzen, Brian Kindregan, StarCraft Legacy staff. 2010-10-23. BlizzCon 2010 StarCraft II Lore Panel. StarCraft Legacy. Accessed 2010-10-25."
Maybe putting the prisoner holding cell next to the tank parking lot wasn't the best idea.
"You can't solve every problem with the Gantrithor"
Tassadar: "bet"
@@battlesheep2552 You can always merge another Overmind. But the Gantrithor is one of a kind.
It's just so heartwarming to see that cinematic.
So wholesome to find as good firend as Tosh.
He should been the new coop commander.
I've always felt like Tosh's storyline should have carried over into the Rebellion storyline. Like Tosh and his Spectres help out with the Odin and Korhal missions as repayment for Raynor helping him out.
Tosh is man but Raynor is still the real MAN
And Ric Flair is the real man. To be the man, you gotta be a MAN,
Tosh even volunteers to rescue Raynor before Kerrigan says she will do it instead
Of course he is not just a man, but an unsung character from Ghost Academy and Spectre Novel.
Tosh playing a good game of DOTA (Destruction of the Autocracy)
Even the Tal'darim stole the psionic lash ability that both psionic lash and mind blast are essentially the same lol. For the uninitiated, Tosh's "Mind Blast" is actually the ultrasonic pulse just renamed, and not to be confused with the ascendant's mind blast ability which is essentially just like psionic lash that cannot hurt buildings.
Tosh was right about one thing: there will be another Mengsk who succeed current Mengsk.😂
Funny how he and Nova was a couple when he still a ghost. Mind wipe protocol ruined them.
They shouldn't have put Thor units here, it shouldn't appear before the news media mission.
Brutha we need to destroy New Folsom brutha
Yeah, one Spectre in the right place, supported by an endless flow of troops.
We will play the alternate missions after the WOL campaign
Like Saving Haven?
I wonder if GiantGrantGames would try a deathless run for this mission with some friends now that the AI won’t be there to run its troops to their deaths
I advise him to learn some map editing and disable the friendly AI which will stop the attack waves. Its so damn easy to make.
I really loved tosh in the WoL campaign. He's completely a fun character, and he's the only one that deduces that raynor got visited by zeratul
This is the first time where Nova met Jim Raynor, although she's 19 years old.
I find it funny that throughout all of the conversation between Nova and Tosh, it’s ironic how the former say such things where she was kidnapped by the Dominion, on Tarsonis when it was becoming a Zerg-infested wreck, and became an experimental Ghost guinea pig. All because she was part of the Old Family of the Confederacy. Every mission she did, she had to be sedated enough where her past memories/trauma wouldn’t come up and cause a mental breakdown. Basically, Ghost and Spectres are two sides of the same coin. But thanks to the retcons, the Nova we see here is not the same Nova back then: with a good-written character. Oh, did I forgot to mention that StarCraft: Ghost game? The one that got scrapped where it showed us Nova for the first time? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Edit: Also, at 10:59, I like how Nova also tried to paint New Folsom holding the worst of the worst. In reality, most of the prisoners are simply people who challenged the empire. Mostly harmless. The few are Tosh’s Spectres. That’s it. Yet, this NEVER gets brought up until HotS when Raynor confronts with Nova and only mentions the “betrayal.” Tosh never gets brought up too. I like the Jamaican character. He’s coocoo but has good intentions in mind using the morally grey methods. Knows more than he leads on too. The fact he sees what Raynor saw from Zeratul’s visions, yet shrugs and says what he does is up to him speaks much about Tosh. Just sad the psycho never gets to be seen again.
What's even funnier : If you help Nova she will turn on you anyway.
Co-op sure makes this campaign so much more fun, kinda makes me want to replay the whole of SC2. :D
6:25 Terran Prisoners: Hey boys, we could sure use those Diamondbacks! Get over there and commandeer them.
2:05 A Protoss Carrier couldn't stop it because the place is heavily defended. Although Tassadar is already dead.
1:37 Begone Dominion Ghost..........I mean November. Let's finish what we started Tosh!
I was expecting the other players to be given their own specters to control but seeing them get Raynor’s forces was better.
10:32 My memorable part.
11:03 Stewie: Uh oh, oh god! Do I take it off or leave it on?! Do I take it off or leave it on?! Ahhhhh!
>1:24 ''Wisely done, Mr. F̶r̶e̶e̶m̶a̶n Raynor.''
>2:03 ''The right man in the wrong place...''
>3:00 Operation: Breaking And Entering.
◽9:42 MKULTRA_ABORTED.
>5:09 Family Friendly [Death Pact] Spell.
>5:36 Operation: DISSENTER.
>7:57 WARNING: Nuclear Silo Detected.
>Angel Matt, Devil Tosh; Not Developed.
>''This system has been liberated by HR Gang.''
You can block the enterce of the tanks and diamondbacks with depos, and have a swarm of them :D
I don't think that Jim Raynor would trust Nova.
Kind of wish for more missions like this...already toyed with one set in Covert Ops where Nova frees cells to recruit units like Hellbats, Goliaths, and Siege Tanks to join the pushing in an uprising...or trying to counter a Zerg invasion by clearing paths for Reapers and Goliaths to stem the tide.
Speaking of, what additional reinforcing units would be applicable in that Protoss epilogue mission? Like I know we have Medivacs (with Marine escorts) and Thors for Terran and Mutas and Brood Lords for Zerg...and what options would there be for a whatif for Protoss? Colossi definitely, and Void Rays/Destroyers, maybe?
Honestly, love those pushing missions where you help an ally advance...then get bonus objectives to amp up the pushing power.
I always pick Tosh over Nova, he's a real bro in the end. In HotS, Horner even says that Tosh will volunteer to break out Raynor in Moros
Let me think a space voodoo man who fought alongside you and a dominion blonde ghost chick coming out of nowhere?
I guess the choice is obvious.
that tosh's knife is too offensive. like...i've expected a betrayal of tosh or arresting him into the basement of the hyperion.
will it be more cool if raynor say "it ain't over till it's over you son of a bitch" and hand him over to nova.
11:47 Chris Evans on the list :)
Memers: "Fenix! _(or in Alternate, James)_ No..."
Blizzard: "We just saved 50 years of political prisoners..."
I get that there was the choir ending to "Better Tomorrow" but why so somber at the start of the track?
If only Nova didn’t just stab Jim in the back if he sided with her.
Then again…I just wish Ghost had been made! 😭
I guess there is a price for simping in space.
Spectres rule mon
I prefer this path also over nova path. She still capture raynor later on
I always choose Nova. Ghosts are too OP.
someone pls teach wolfsangel a lesson by being nicer and not being rude.
Is there a cheat code that summons ganthrithor
Just type "herecomesthegantrithor" in the chat, it summons a Gantrithor on the location of your mouse cursor
@@razorback9999able perfect
@@razorback9999able And the cheat code Gantrithor i suppose has it's lore weaponry. Purifying beam together with all kinds of weaponry, broadside cannons etc...
But 1 MAN
Tosh dont give me any reason to dont trust him, nova choice i think is for her fanboys.
SC2 writing needed some work. Raynor can STOP SIMPING for this mission but not for Kerrigan.
-Clearly Nova's no Kerrigan.-
Regardless of the so-called simping nonsense which is very insulting and makes other couples offended, I want to see more writings on Tosh, Nova, Ariel Hanson, Arcturus Mengsk, and many others from their perspective.
I guess people are more comfortable with good guys vs bad guys type of stories nowadsys.
@@rawfleshStarCraft615We've pretty much known Mengsk's perspective of things in the first game. Nova has her solo campaign. And taking about Tosh and Ariel my guess the writers didn't know what to do with them, considering there wasn't "canon" choice in their misson, and one of the option leads to their death.
@@Kamenb1801 Well the good ending for both of them is considered the canon choice. The A canon.
From SC Fandom:
" Sure, yea I can say that we do say that the A choice that you made, was the canon decision. So, in terms of the SC canon, Raynor sided with Tosh and Raynor helped the colonists against Selendis. That said, I really would like to not have any player feel like their choice has been invalidated. In general, except for when the implications become overpowering, I think I'm going to try to stay away from going back and examining that stuff except when we really need to, so that you can play the game and really feel like your choices are being carried forward, and we do have the technology to check your save-game by the way. Chris Metzen, Brian Kindregan, StarCraft Legacy staff. 2010-10-23. BlizzCon 2010 StarCraft II Lore Panel. StarCraft Legacy. Accessed 2010-10-25."
Nova is trash. Tosh > Nova.
Not she's trash, she's already living in the gutter years ago in a trashed crime sector.