WP Apex Pro Test | Aftermarket Suspension Better For The Road?

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Mossy joins Jason Statham for an in-depth review of WP's all-new Apex Pro suspension; an aftermarket option designed for the road. Is it worth the dollar?
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Komentáře • 237

  • @FortyFourTeeth
    @FortyFourTeeth  Před 4 lety +52

    Apologies for the audio - it wasn't our kit!

    • @amancalledjames9345
      @amancalledjames9345 Před 4 lety +5

      44Teeth Ahhh, I just thought he was a geordie.

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 Před 4 lety +2

      Mint tea my ass. Jamesons?

    • @ferrarithedude
      @ferrarithedude Před 4 lety +1

      Did you borrow it from the MCN bits and bobs 😂

    • @richbrock9876
      @richbrock9876 Před 4 lety

      It’s like I’ve got cotton wool in me tabs, still a great video though 👍

    • @cnealmartin
      @cnealmartin Před 4 lety

      My google translator isn't working....

  • @LukesTech
    @LukesTech Před 4 lety +121

    Statham struggling to get a word in 😂

    • @abdu1989
      @abdu1989 Před 4 lety +3

      He did say no, yeah, no, no 😂

  • @JayGee6996
    @JayGee6996 Před 4 lety +97

    Did you borrow MCN’s microphones for this one lol

    • @FortyFourTeeth
      @FortyFourTeeth  Před 4 lety +13

      Yeah, sorry about that - part of the reason we had to delay release. It wasn’t our kit

    • @JayGee6996
      @JayGee6996 Před 4 lety +9

      44Teeth to be fair I’d rather hear distorted audio than wait 👍

    • @muzman777
      @muzman777 Před 4 lety

      Should have heard MCN about 5 or 6 years ago then - shocking!

  • @trevorbailey4441
    @trevorbailey4441 Před 4 lety +50

    Love it when Statham's dad is in the vids 😁

  • @gttpete
    @gttpete Před 4 lety +43

    Had Mossy been on the lash before you made this ? I thought he was going to start with the war stories next.

  • @trrize
    @trrize Před 4 lety +47

    Did someone give mossy a cheeky line before this one 😂

    • @RupeWilson
      @RupeWilson Před 4 lety

      Good suspension is better than drugs then..

    • @mysteryfang
      @mysteryfang Před 4 lety

      Alex Rigby Whiskey tea.

    • @trrize
      @trrize Před 4 lety +2

      @@RupeWilson I couldn't tell ya I haven't tried the suspension

  • @andyboyes05
    @andyboyes05 Před 4 lety +23

    That was a great video, made me laugh Al could hardly get a word in 😂😂

  • @roberthagmann8779
    @roberthagmann8779 Před 4 lety +8

    What a fucking legend this old bugger is, loved the video, absolutely loved it. Frankly the video could have been about absolutly anything and it would´ve still been amazing

  • @ticthedog9413
    @ticthedog9413 Před 4 lety +8

    👍 Great guest appearance by Mossy

  • @RoryMacdonald-pfff
    @RoryMacdonald-pfff Před 4 lety +24

    Lovely stuff .. but that’s not the BBB update 😬

  • @themorganator
    @themorganator Před 4 lety +2

    Proper comedy double! I particularly enjoy Al's obvious annoyance at the consistent interruptions! Carry on team - excellent work!

  • @louiebsides
    @louiebsides Před 4 lety +9

    Fagan was like a viewer I’ll talk fagan you just listen son cause I’ve just smashed a line of Columbia finest 😂🙈

  • @deanqrs1209
    @deanqrs1209 Před 4 lety +2

    I love when you do the suspension stuff I used to work for a company called quantum racing suspension and built all sorts of bespoke parts but then tryed to sell more road/trackday friendly units to Joe public,all you got was why is it so expensive.Talking to people about suspension is like pissing in the wind but big up you guys for continuing to review it

  • @amancalledjames9345
    @amancalledjames9345 Před 4 lety +27

    Had Mossy had a gram of whizz or something?

    • @jackbishop8319
      @jackbishop8319 Před 4 lety

      Haha lol

    • @RTK171
      @RTK171 Před 4 lety

      He's pinging of his head what's that lady put in his tea ??

  • @strmopizdin
    @strmopizdin Před 4 lety +2

    - Statham: "So... Do you remember pricing?"
    (drunk old man stutters)
    - Statham: "I do."

  • @CampbellZeroOne
    @CampbellZeroOne Před 4 lety +14

    Funny on so many levels 😂

  • @matthull7504
    @matthull7504 Před 4 lety +4

    Genuinely, that's the postie that delivers to my house ! 😂

  • @aaronbeck8281
    @aaronbeck8281 Před 4 lety +2

    It’s really nice that Al let’s his dad come along for some of these reviews.

  • @SindarinDraganias
    @SindarinDraganias Před 4 lety +18

    "Where's your fishing rod?"
    Lost it.

  • @wolfurine
    @wolfurine Před 4 lety +13

    A fookin' love a Mossy guest appearance👍

  • @nyleen
    @nyleen Před 4 lety +2

    "All i remember is that we were riding on fancy suspenion"
    LOL Mossy.
    Poor Fagan

  • @ScottUK
    @ScottUK Před 4 lety +1

    Where the fuck is BBB? I pay good mone..... oh wait, never mind. Take your time lads, I can't wait to indulge myself in what is undoubtedly the best series on CZcams.

  • @GMan2670
    @GMan2670 Před 4 lety +2

    That old man is hilarious!!!!😆😆😆😆 you gotta put him on more stuff. The way he interrupts like your grandad would. Hahahaaaaa

  • @FelixBillson
    @FelixBillson Před 4 lety +1

    Production quality (even with mics) is absolute top quality. Two wheel equivalent of Top Gear. Class.

  • @itchyscratchy8216
    @itchyscratchy8216 Před 4 lety +5

    Why is mossy yelling at you I thought you guys are friends 😂👍

  • @disekjoumoer
    @disekjoumoer Před 4 lety +2

    Took my bike to the MOT here in Switzerland today. Had placed 44 Teeth stickers on my helmet and on both sides of the tank. Got some nasty looks but the bike passed. 😀

    • @Z32andCG6
      @Z32andCG6 Před 4 lety

      Why would that be an issue? We don't have inspection here (California) so I'm genuinely curious.

    • @disekjoumoer
      @disekjoumoer Před 4 lety +1

      @@Z32andCG6 Budget Bike Battle 2: Alpine Anal, where Jason and Sue get busted for 140kph in an 80kph zone and Sue can't ride on, gets a $10k fine and a multiyear ban on driving in Switzerland.

    • @Z32andCG6
      @Z32andCG6 Před 4 lety

      @@disekjoumoer Interesting, I'm surprised they're that aware of 44teeth. Going double the speed limit is pretty commonplace here that it wouldn't stand out.

    • @disekjoumoer
      @disekjoumoer Před 4 lety

      @@Z32andCG6 44 Teeth are fairly well known in the biking world, and it was here on YT. Also, Sue was lucky. For someone who lives here, that would have meant confiscation of the bike, permanent loss of license, a fine in the region of $15 and possibly a year or so in jail.

  • @gsakroyd
    @gsakroyd Před 4 lety +1

    Av got one word for Chris Moss. Brilliant.!

  • @Shifty_Malone
    @Shifty_Malone Před 4 lety +2

    Moto2 as well, Zarco won his back to back titles on WP suspension. All KTM teams (Factory and Satellite) in Moto2 and MotoGP all run WP suspension too.

  • @y2.1kapocalyptic2
    @y2.1kapocalyptic2 Před 4 lety +1

    Best Co-Host Ever!! “Evil Assistant” LoL 😂

  • @iamthemobey
    @iamthemobey Před 4 lety +4

    I love that old gezza

  • @otakarlibal
    @otakarlibal Před 4 lety +2

    you should do a video on how to set up an adjustable suspension! I have adjustable suspension but I have no idea how to set it up

    • @Nightdare
      @Nightdare Před 4 lety

      Well, you adjust it, then set it up
      But seriously, binge some Dave Moss vids if you want to find out about suspension
      If there's one thing I've learned is "Count the clicks", that way, you know where you were, what you changed, and how you can go back to the original settings

  • @kalheer
    @kalheer Před 4 lety

    That was bare banter and such a great watch.. “wheres your fishing rod” 😂😂

  • @driveguy
    @driveguy Před 4 lety +3

    WP, I thought was great, because it's on my multi standard. And that is great fun. Agreed, I would love to know what crap forks on the same bike would feel like (for a very short time)

  • @yamakawirodebike5710
    @yamakawirodebike5710 Před 4 lety

    Sound quality was good enough to hear and see you guys have fun.

  • @ARTHURCBR
    @ARTHURCBR Před 4 lety +4

    More postman in your next videos, thanks.

  • @snakerb
    @snakerb Před 4 lety +2

    Whatever is in his tea, I want some of it 😂

  • @michaelhayward7572
    @michaelhayward7572 Před 4 lety

    Thats not tea in that mug. And a line of chuckola. This is the funniest and bestest m/c vlog in a long time. Kudos to both gentlemen. Hilarious.

  • @_rubberbandit3697
    @_rubberbandit3697 Před 4 lety

    Why have I only just found this video? hilarious as always. Mossy didn’t even need the mike. They’d have heard him in the next village over 😂

  • @ssbbmoto
    @ssbbmoto Před 4 lety +2

    Upgrading to Ohlins front and rear on my MT-07 was the single greatest modification i have ever made to a bike, i bet this WP stuff would be a night and day improvement as well. When the stock suspension on such a fantastic series of bikes is so bad, cough Yamaha cough cough, that its nearly unridable the manufacturer should be ashamed and ridiculed. I believe most would rather pay slightly more if it meant the stock stuff had some kind of damping so it didn't have to be thrown away and replaced right away.

    • @CyberGasty
      @CyberGasty Před 4 lety

      and despite that they still sell tons of Mt-07, bestselling bike. Incredible.

    • @ssbbmoto
      @ssbbmoto Před 4 lety +1

      @@CyberGasty exactly, it says a lot about how great these bikes are. I bought mine going in knowing the stock suspension was going in the trash immediately and I encourage everyone and of any skill level to put suspension mods at the top of their list as with these bikes in particular its very much worth the expense.

  • @tarmacsurfers
    @tarmacsurfers Před 4 lety

    I can forgive Mossy for the interruptions cos he knows his shit and is a serious bike handler. WP bouncers sorted my old 990 duke r out a treat and they aren’t even advanced as their latest kit. Thanks for the video boiz 🤘🏻

  • @michaelscott1060
    @michaelscott1060 Před 4 lety

    Awesome, did my KTM yesterday just the front and great improvement, the ol fella Mossy is brilliant

  • @Quazi1966
    @Quazi1966 Před 4 lety

    Suspension should be the number one mod, not exhausts, carbon tat, etc. the benefits are huge.

  • @kevinmckeown2956
    @kevinmckeown2956 Před 4 lety

    The question is would you use WP on a ZX6R race bike?
    All I know is Ohlins so stepping into the unknown abit with WP as not many use it from what I can tell by trying to do abit of research

  • @muckydog5806
    @muckydog5806 Před 4 lety

    It's a thumbs up for Mossy, the bloke's a Proper Geeeeeezer!

  • @jamesgodden7620
    @jamesgodden7620 Před 2 lety

    How many newkey browns did they put in Mossy's tea?! Entertaining as ever from you guys. Keep it up. Ooh err!

  • @Curry3659
    @Curry3659 Před 4 lety

    Somebody slipped a bit of happy happy talky juice in that mug

  • @JoacimBoive
    @JoacimBoive Před 4 lety

    Where’s the video where you test the 1290? Couldn’t find it. 😢

  • @Trotsetukker
    @Trotsetukker Před 4 lety

    an aftermarket suspension shoot out would awesome video. so, ohlins, Wilbers, YSS, WP, Hyperpro for example.

  • @ct9683
    @ct9683 Před 4 lety

    I couldn't agree more on suspension upgrades but you can get a Ktech DDSpro rear shock and front internals for 1500. Reality is most people on the road can't outride you're budget aftermarket shocks, YSS/Ohlins sport/ktech razorlite, add progressive or linear springs upfront, you then have a good set up under 600 quid

  • @Yamaprilia
    @Yamaprilia Před 4 lety +5

    Its not an easy watch when hes being interupted all the time

  • @bebop2599
    @bebop2599 Před 4 lety +1

    MT09 SP suspension is great.

  • @chrisgoulding3638
    @chrisgoulding3638 Před 4 lety

    This is quite different to what you said on the MT09 2017 video review,which you described the fork as having an air of plushness and that you really liked it😅

  • @Englishbikerdan
    @Englishbikerdan Před 4 lety

    What's Mossy on and can I get some?! Nice video, audio issues aside but these things happen. I was lucky enough to have the 790 press bike with the Apex Pro on and it's bloody good kit!

  • @bokke77
    @bokke77 Před 4 lety +1

    Man, as a South African I’m not used to the shouty mans accent, didn’t understand a word. Is that what they call Northern? Love the vids/channel though.

  • @Mitch-Baldwin
    @Mitch-Baldwin Před 4 lety

    Mossy!!!!!!!!!! Also, I hope you guys use this music sample more often as the channel theme or something. Loved it in the R1 video, and it worked well as a great intro montage here too

  • @peterjackson6228
    @peterjackson6228 Před 4 lety

    Superb! I genuinely believe that this kit is good and worth the money!

  • @Renzsu
    @Renzsu Před 4 lety

    Only bike I ever had with really good suspension was the Multistrada 1200S.. the Ohlins on that were fantastic. Smooth like a magic carpet ride, but tight and dialed in where it mattered.

  • @metronemy
    @metronemy Před 4 lety +2

    Yeah I don't think mossy should be in videos with others. Sort of destroyed Al's flow.

  • @tywin1
    @tywin1 Před 4 lety

    Decent suspension bits are definitely one of the best things to chuck on a bike. The up-front cost turns people off, but once you take the plunge and set it up right you'll be regretting that it took you so long. Lol

  • @RFTRPO
    @RFTRPO Před 4 lety

    To my understanding Ten kate won all there wk supersport titels with WP suspenssion as well (schock and cartridge kit).

  • @p2e
    @p2e Před 4 lety

    i must remember to carry a bit of catnip tea with me when i’m with the old folks

  • @killakam368
    @killakam368 Před 4 lety

    Yall are tripping. This old man is boss😂😂😂 Poor Fagan lol

  • @kirkdunn1379
    @kirkdunn1379 Před 2 lety

    people will dump cost of great suspension in pipes, levers, bars, accessories that do nothing so the money gripe is out the window.....an exhaust is insane on streetbike ( value for dollar)

  • @Erelyes
    @Erelyes Před 4 lety

    'Business end of the stroke' fucking lost it

  • @alanssnackbardailyrelaxati8155

    Brilliant, had a laverda with WP years ago, great handling bike.

  • @bradalmond1802
    @bradalmond1802 Před 4 lety

    FARKEN HELL Mossey did you load up on wiz bang before this video was shot.

  • @historychannel8457
    @historychannel8457 Před 4 lety

    well done...getting on you tube gets us all excited...

  • @helderteixeira2236
    @helderteixeira2236 Před 4 lety

    Can someone tell me the name of the song at the beginning of the video please? Thanks

  • @andyb3331
    @andyb3331 Před 4 lety

    Quality review!!!! it was like a cross between Monty Python and Chubby Brown - 10/10

  • @zippycentral
    @zippycentral Před 4 lety

    It’s nice he brought his dad on to help him out.

  • @jamiecahill87
    @jamiecahill87 Před 4 lety

    will we ever have mossy and james in the same vid for the ultimate fanboy video?

  • @rob2475
    @rob2475 Před 4 lety

    A large frying pan would have done the trick!

  • @ReferenceFidelityComponents

    Is there a volume/off button for Mossy? I couldn't remember what you were saying Alistair due to shell shock and PTS from having "where's your fishing rod" Mossy inflicted on my ear-oles lol! His voice was echoing off the buildings so everyone inside probably heard him as well 😂 Aftermarket suspension is usually worth it...but the cynic in me thinks manufacturers could do better as standard instead of promoting SP" bike versions. I'd rather pay a bit more for a sorted bike from new than buy the "affordable" version and have the hassle and cost of upgrading it as lets face it, few bikes are exactly cheap from new anyway.

  • @mattrowe6394
    @mattrowe6394 Před 4 lety

    I looked away for a second there and I thought youtube had taken me to the Hairy Bikers channel 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @AirwolfBMG
    @AirwolfBMG Před 4 lety +1

    Good suspension and you feel every click!💩 who remembers Lorenzo getting pole? N jammed between disc and fork leg was a 2kg seagull.( dead and getting BBQ ). He said, had no idea it was there.😱👍🇬🇧

  • @kirkdunn1379
    @kirkdunn1379 Před 2 lety

    first time seeing this and ol man is spectacular....idk who he is but can tell the dude is as english say "proper".....yeah i am from southern california so, but our roads suck in a bad way.....so will be looking to upgrade the boingers cuz the stock 890 stuff isnt very good
    coming from dirt background where suspension is pretty damn good stock, 2022 890 r suspension feels blah at best....i feel sorry for street guys if 890 is considered "good out of the box....am also the target weight for it.....idk i expected better but to be fair to get a streetbike for sme cost as a dirtbike leaves me dumbfounded considering how much more you get.......but suspension isnt one of the perks

  • @TheGarnerjustin73
    @TheGarnerjustin73 Před 4 lety

    For the price of the KTM 790, it should come with proper adjustable suspension. Now i can see why an FZ07 or Fz09 does't come with adjustable suspension at their price point.

  • @AntaresSQ01
    @AntaresSQ01 Před 4 lety +1

    Idk why but all yamaha suspensions on cheaper big bikes, such as the FZ8, MT-09, MT-07 the rearshock feels like a pogo stick, you go over a speedbump bouncing around for the next 10 seconds.

  • @Eckascliovalver
    @Eckascliovalver Před 4 lety

    Absolute gold 😂 44 teeth don’t ever change 😎

  • @bogman223
    @bogman223 Před 4 lety

    Brilliant!!! Thank you 44Teeth!!

  • @Showmetheevidence-
    @Showmetheevidence- Před 4 lety +4

    Ffs, does that old git ever shut up.
    It starts off funny - but quickly gets tiring hearing him cut Fagan off every 3 seconds.

  • @Hemlck
    @Hemlck Před 4 lety

    Is this now an option for the KTM 790 Duke? To my mind they could put some different graphics on the bike with this suspension and call it the 790R ? (I had and sold the KTM 790 as I didn't like the suspension (also at the time wanted more power but that was just me being silly)

  • @BrianFrichette
    @BrianFrichette Před 4 lety

    Jesus, Mossy has undiagnosed ADHD if I've ever seen it. Love that little bastard.

  • @viktornilsson7867
    @viktornilsson7867 Před 4 lety +1

    Come on with BBB, can't wait!

  • @rommelhaque
    @rommelhaque Před 3 lety

    What does WP stand for ?

  • @ccaalluuss
    @ccaalluuss Před 4 lety

    lots of whiskey in that KTM jar..

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 Před 4 lety

    This was fun. Too bad about the being banned from KTM after this.

  • @timrodierides
    @timrodierides Před 4 lety

    I love Mossy.

  • @Kevin-vg5uw
    @Kevin-vg5uw Před 4 lety +4

    Hahaha that man must be a laugh after a few drinks, 2k for a good suspension is really not hard to save up for if your serious and the rewards over time are worth well korê than that

  • @Addy29plus5
    @Addy29plus5 Před 4 lety

    9k is not a Budget bike Mossy. 6k is a budget bike

  • @kamahlwatson941
    @kamahlwatson941 Před 4 lety

    Was that one of those? "Bring your Grandad to work, day"...

  • @ghollidge
    @ghollidge Před 4 lety +6

    ive seen an estate bird sag less then that chain

  • @richbrock9876
    @richbrock9876 Před 4 lety

    Better than ktech?

  • @alexmvidal
    @alexmvidal Před 4 lety +3

    We need more Mossy on the channel!

  • @Neon_city_nights
    @Neon_city_nights Před 4 lety

    So my question is, if you’re spending that money updating the MT-09’s suspension would it out perform the SP’s suspension? Why spend that money on the base model when you supposedly get a better unit on the slightly more expensive bike?

    • @Markisha64
      @Markisha64 Před 4 lety

      Aftermarket is always better than stock. Stock is springed and dumped for median consumer, if you are median it may be ok. But if you are not you can chose different springs and that is allways better. I didnt ride WP, but i think Ohlins is better. I modded my MT09 with YA535 and spring for my mass, and ond the front more dense oil and stiffer spring. Next season i will get NIX 30. There are cheaper routes than Ohlins. For example K tech razor R and Andreani Missano...

  • @Rhidrio3
    @Rhidrio3 Před 4 lety

    Get some on that SMR long termer you have.

  • @stephencallil6512
    @stephencallil6512 Před 4 lety

    Top review. Great humor .If you reckon the roads are bad in the U.K come to Australia .

  • @BaldurM
    @BaldurM Před 4 lety

    Gotta love Mossy!

  • @garywatterson252
    @garywatterson252 Před 4 lety +1

    Get that man in more videos. Fkn hilarious 😂

  • @dodgeskitz87
    @dodgeskitz87 Před 4 lety

    I still can't find an online store with the mt09 kit.