This Was A Bizarre Discovery
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2023
- While studying an area on Google Earth, I came across some odd looking areas. The rocks appeared to be in shapes that would imply there was something manmade amongst this bizarre landscape. Intrigued, I hiked in to see what it was.
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I am a Paiute/Shoshone Native from California I would like to Thank You for being very Respectful and reminding your followers/ viewers to as well be Respectful. So many of my Ancestors many other tribes old ones sites, burials, art and etc... have been badly picked clean or destroyed such little is left and most of what is left the government makes us get permission to visit these sites. Thank You Awasu (see ya) for no tribes have a word for goodbye.
Thanks for the support NativeViking. It is a shame what has happened to some of these places
It makes me sad the old ways gone things that can't get back history language culture traditions that once were meant to pass down for generations. They may be gone but they will never be forgotten. Thank you for all you do.
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At 11:21 there is a metal plate with a number. This usually identifies the site a registered historical site. You might find more info on the site through this number. Nice find while exploring - thanks for the video.
WOW! *Great catch!!*
I didn't even see it until you pointed it out!
Guess I was so focused on trying to read the 'Cowboy Graffiti' (thinking maybe the NA stands for Native American, then a site number.)
Thanks for the heads up, I'll look it up as best I can & hope for the best, altho without knowing which State it's in I may not have any luck. Hopefully, the general region will be enough to go by.
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Nice find👍
Really good catch, way to scope the whole image. So I would assume the site has been catalogged.
anyone find a reference online? Its not easy to read. I can make out 02-3758. There may even be another number in front of the 0. I certainly couldn't find anything that seemed at all related to the site online. But maybe someone else has better google-fu than I do.
@@brianofmoore I couldn't find anything either, Brian.
I thought the number (1) or (7) might be in front of the 0; possibly an I or T ... maybe?
The NA2739 at 11:15 is an archaeological site designation. That area you're in is chock full of ruins and pottery covering many square miles.
NA1739 if that is the right number is also a site in New Mexico that apparently also has tree ring data somewhere. it is in an old Univ. Az report.
I have ruins on my property. There's a really large settlement about a 20 minute hike from m house. I'm retired now so do a 2 mile hike numerous times weekly. Keep up the great work. 🎉😂
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Found your channel 3 days ago. I have viewed about 15 since then. I am so glad to find someone that respects the history of our ancestors. It matters not be they Anasazi, Spanish, Pueblo, white, or any other peoples. THEY ALL NEED TO BE RESPECTED! It's really too bad that you can't divulge your locations for fear of"treasure"hunters damaging and removing items that don't belong to them. PLEASE leave things as you find them for others to feel the joy.
What about new housing development? Do they buy land and build subdivisions on former historic Indian Land? How bout THOSE relics?
@@trainman1209 The developers definitely do not respect anything in their paths.😒😒
People have been around for a long long time. Thanks for respecting the history .
We have indeed
It would be wonderful for you to take stills of all the different clay sherds you find. The textures, painted patterns etc are so important to record since they just lie on the ground forever with no one able to appreciate them. You could make posters if them and note the posters to each area you visit. I'd buy one. Im sure they would be of great interest to many people.
That’s a good idea, thanks for commenting and watching!
That is a truly beautiful idea, capturing the item without removing it!
Every time he finds broken pottery, I keep imagining some mom yelling at her kids for breaking it. 😂 “How many times have I told you not to throw rocks in the pit house?” 😂😂😂
A new watcher here by way of Trek Planner. He encouraged his viewers to check your videos out. Signing up was the thing to do!😊
That’s awesome. Thanks for tuning in to the channel. Hope to see your comments and insights on future videos!
Hi from the UK.Nice to see some of Americas "NON EXISTENT" history coming to light. Keep looking and I'll keep watching, I'm getting too old for all that hiking but still want the thrill of seeing old places. There's something about them that you can feel. Man! You should try crawling into a neolithic long barrow or solstice at Stonehenge. I miss that feeling but it's good to be able to watch someone else experience it.
Hello from Volcanic Oregon. Note I am fascinated by the archaeology of the UK and Ireland, Time Team UK is a favourite of mine. If you ever get to Oregon, I'll be happy to be your guide to our marvelous State. Cheers!
Hi, no passport. so probably not gonna happen As a thank you, do you want to see Edward Winslow ( Mayflower/ Plymouth Mass. Governor)s birth town. Will try to give pointers. TY@@kilcar
So true when your too old to go hiking but feel the thrill of that old place when its was livly with cooking and children. But before that when it was created and new so so long ago.
Videos exist of Stonehenge being built with heavy equipment many decades ago.
Who says it's non existent?
It's pretty obvious to me that the high presence of pottery on the ground suggests that the blackened surface of the rock cave was a kiln oven for firing the beautiful ceramics found at the site.
I came here to post something similar. I worked one summer with some pueblo peoples from San Ildefonso, learning their pottery-making techniques and firings. The firings would take place in shallow pits dug in the ground with wood and dried dung on top of the pottery. It appears to me that these rings of volcanic rock would be excellent for holding in heat.
That sounds very probable. Especially as there was so many different pottery types.
@ Desert.Drifter awesome hike! Keep the videos coming & stay safe out there.
More to come!
Just found your videos. Enjoying them and the respect that you have for the ancient people that lived here.
Welcome!
Ryan, I have a lot of knowledge of the Verde Valley, South of were you are on this hike. I need to pass this knowledge on before I am too old to remember. I am too old to go out very far, but I can show you where the Camp Verde Meteorite was found, And the area the locals call The Teepees, which is an exposed area of dormant volcano vents and bubble mud pots
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I never knew... until maybe a year or so ago, that NM and AZ have a LOT of volcanos. Even Shiprock NM is an extinct Volcano. NM also has a very large caldera (Valles Caldera at 35°52'17.62"N, 106°31'53.17"W ).
Those dry-stacked walls were impressive, and the pottery shard were beautiful. Can't wait for your return there. Thank you!
11:47 Next to the painted NA __34, to the left, there is a metal tag staked into the wall (02-3758). I'm wondering if this is a cataloged site.
Yes. That is how they do it.
I've said it before but I sure appreciate the fact you leave these things where you find them for others to enjoy the same thing !! 💯😁👍
It's a federal crime to remove any broken pots you may find, but in the blink of an eye, those same people would kick you off your land and take everything you got because of a find of gold or or any other minerals they find themselves wanting.
That has happened a time or two hasn’t it? For me, leaving artifacts where you find them is more about respect in allowing other people to marvel at them, and to minimally disturb a site in case it hasn’t been professionally studied before. That’s what I hope inspires people to leave what they find, not so much the legality of it all.
Usfs was not happy a bike trail went kinda close to historical site, a hunting blind looking rock stack that not many knew about until they marked it. They wanted the trail rerouted or closed, but as soon as a developer offered a land swap, it wasnt a big deal anymore. Now its private property
It’s so interesting listening to you and watching you go to these ruins, I live in New Mexico and the four corner of Utah. Arizona and Colorado, during summer hikes and picnics we have seen and touched so much pottery and ruins. It is expected to see these things as we enjoy this beautiful wilderness. We never take anything but pictures and leave nothing but footprints. So incredible. Thanks for you knowledge and sharing what you know about our beautiful southwest.
These items are so MUCH MORE exciting to see at these sites, rather then on a coffee table mantle , or even a museum
Do you not worry about snakes
Great find! I am so impressed with how respectful you are when exploring ruins. Happy to subscribe for the very reason
Just love your videos so far. I watched them all this morning and can't wait for the next one. I think you are touching something in a lot of people that would love to be out there doing the exploring also, but circumstances whatever they are, prevent them from doing so. We can explore vicariously through you. Thank You! Your videos look good , buuuuut they would be great in 4K!
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching. I uploaded about half of my vids in 2k, and the rest is 1080. Can you tell any difference between certain videos? I shoot in 4k, but uploading even the 2k to CZcams takes foreverrrr. But I’m open to feedback and appreciate it 😊
Outstanding video- very informative
A lot of these half wall structures found in open ranges and mountains like this are hunting blinds.... Natives built a small wall to hide behind until their prey walked close enough to spear or arrow.
Good point
Ues a good point - but hunting blinds are semi-circular for that obvious reason. These seem more structured than that. Also finding a pottery at hunting blind makes no sense.
Also used for anonymity
Digging your content 👍🏻. First time I’ve ever seen these kind of dwellings in volcanic rock. It looked like there were big chunks of terracotta colored pottery next to the broken metate you found. Cool stuff!
Appreciate that! I agree, the fact these places were amongst all of that volcanic rock was striking. It goes to show how much we can adapt as humans when needed
At 10:33 as you were panning up to an overhang there was something red in the wall. What was it?
Those are not pit houses or ancient dwellings, Navajos built those to keep their sheep in or use them as places for sheep to have their babies. We have a lot of those across our reservation, and a lot are mistaken for ruins.
They sure broke a lot of pottery around those sheep corals.
I would bet that these structures are much older than the Navajos who used them as sheep folds.
@@aliceputt3133 It does make sense that, if they were used as lambing pens, there would be people living nearby for extended periods each spring.
Just came upon your videos recently. I'm envious of your proximity to areas that provide such great adventures and appreciate the eloquence with which you describe them.
I've recently subscribed and do enjoy your content. I know you're finding random places to investigate, but I'd really like to hear you give a general area of where you are, just out of curiosity. Keep up the great work..
Thanks for subbing! I’ve been torn between sharing more, and trying to keep it vague to protect these fragile places from people that might want to harm them. I’m trying to find the balance… Thank you for the patience 🙏🏼
@@Desert.Drifter That's what I figured. Looking forward to seeing more of your material down the road.. thanks!
NA 2734 is a range and township survey, so presumably this area has been surveyed my the US Coast and Geodetic Survey.
I never expected to see lava rock being used to build structures. It's so rough, hurts just looking at it! 😅 Thank you for sharing such an awesome place!
Seems like a good way of dissuading night time thieves. Especially if they're wearing moccasins on their feet. The floor literally *was* lava.
Lava rock is used world wide to build houses wherever the landscape is created by volcanos.
I live in one...😊
@@sabinereimer7809 cool 😎
This is mind blowing. Looks like these humans lived in perfect harmony with nature.
Seriously struggling to survive
Thanks for your respectful visit I find most informative. The landscape is ancient lava flows, mostly a'a lava,the crunchy kind. The pit houses remind me of similar structures on Haleakala Maui summit. I think they brought the matate with them since it had to be made from a hard rock. Perhaps it housed hunting parties for short time habitat. The orange pottery shard indicates to me that trading was going on as many tribes made and traded with each other. I am also a subscriber to Trek Planner. I am 84, no longer a hiker or backpacker, so am using your videos and
Trek Planner's and some others from all around the globe to continue to explore. Thanks a lot. Oakland CA
I’ve enjoyed a number of exploring & hiking videos based out there where you’ve been drifting. But I’m always left wanting to know more about those lost ones who left only mute stones and sherds to mark their passing.
I would love to see a video with the results of your research.
I lived very close to this spot for a decade, but didn't have a car so never explored it apart from Google Maps and Google Earth. It's fascinating to see this video and get close-ups as to what's there.
There’s an episode of the QAA podcast that describes the experience of a hiker in Moab climbing to a ridge and seeing a long chain of headlights into the distance as thousands of gawkers, hikers and CZcamsrs descended upon Moab after the discovery of “the monolith” in 2020. The ambiguity of the locations of your hikes shows a lot of respect for the land.
Yes, I don't want to create another monolith debacle. Thanks for recognizing this
Moab is my washpot.
Just dicovered your channel yesterday and loving your videos. Thank you very much for taking the time to share these fantasic discoveries. I would love you to get yourself a small tent therefore no need to race the sun.
God bless you brother.
Glad you found it! I’ll be doing some backpacking trips coming up so I don’t have to race the sun 😉
Wow I just stumbled on your channel. Yessss there are many of us interested in the desert and the beauty of its uniqueness and antiquity.
What an amazing spot and find, lots of basalt. I'm in Deming, NM. and used to find pottery alot like you found there out here. Sadly it's rare in this area anymore because ppl don't follow Leave No Trace principles, I respect that you do!
Well wherever you are if you'd ever like hiking buddies LMK.
Also thanks for the amazing footage of the grand canyon and the volcanic areas of AZ.
Love your videos! I live in the Midwest. We find artifacts like stone tools and some pottery from the Mississippian Culture in the farm fields and creeks. There are absolutely no remains of structures of any kind.
Nice hike
Ive spent alot of time in that same general area on horseback when i was a kid in the 70s. Found so many amazing things. Great vid ! brings back wonderful memories.
Superb adventure, thanks for taking us along 🏴🇺🇸
@Desert Drifter: I am certain the hand painted numbers are NA 2739 or 2734. They remind me of a federal or military topographical grid coordinate system on a 1:50,000 map. If true, it would identify a specific 1 kilometer grid square on a federally printed map. This coupled with the metal tag @federicolier has spotted would probably reveal a lot of information. Without knowing where you are at, I would contact the National Park Service as a beginning point. Please follow up and let us know what you discover.
Hey Richard, that's very interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look into it further
Still exploring your videos And it's realy cool seeing artifacts from so long ago Keep up the great work
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Wonderful info. You are what I want to be in my next time around. I feel the same as your previous viewer. Getting to old to go myself and happy that you do the trekking. Thanks
Great video! Those rock walls are amazing. The size of the stones, and the technique is incredible. I think, they are every bit of 800 years old, judging by the condition of the rocks. You were literally, walking in thick piles, of the crumbled walls. Amazing!
Thank you! Cheers!
Just started watching your videos and I love the places you’ve been of the ones I’ve seen. This one is special to me because I’m intimately familiar with Casa Malpais in Springerville, AZ. It is a site built at the edge of a lava flow, entirely of lava. If you are inclined you can tour the site and visit the museum in town. There is a structure similar to the first one in your video on top of the Coyote Hill shield volcano nearby, accessible by dirt road, on public land. So much to explore in that area!
I recently discovered, I am already completely addicted to your videos
Love your channel. I worked for a state park in the south. We were trained to spot 'burned rock middens' by the sharpness of a rock - when it cracked from the cooking fire.
Interesting. Can you elaborate a bit more, I know what a midden is, but want to make sure I’m fully understanding what you’re suggesting
I so enjoy your videos,, and your mannerisms and respect for the places you go. I wonder where the ancients got water in places like these. I visited Canyon of the Ancients years ago and on the hike to the visitors center, a plaque said the people usually didn’t live long lives. Always fascinated by them.
We share the same fascination Phyllis, I’m glad you’re enjoying them!
Love this! All that black jutting rock is so beautiful. It's fascinating to see all the variety of pottery.
Thanks again 👍
Love these videos!
This was amazing! Can’t wait for your return trip!
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Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
That was totally amazing. All those shards of pottery with different patterns on them, and the formed rock piece you found was definitely used for what you figured. I love these hikes with you, you always find wonderful areas with some historic value, and this one far surpasses videos of yours. I'm a senior citizen with mobility issues and by watching you on these hikes are almost like being there with you. Thanks so much for the ride!
What a cool place, especially the second half! Great work. Also when people comment does that help with the algorithm ? If not I’ll stop commenting so much. Respect to you and your adventures
Thanks for commenting strongman. I don’t fully understand the algorithm, but I don’t think it hurts to comment. It must mean something
@@Desert.Drifter you’re welcome ❤️
I am half Native so your videos just touch my soul ❤ thank you for showing us this amazing content.
To live free off the land. To build a home with our bare hands, to overcome adversity and endure hardships. To sit around a campfire with our family and friends. This has always been the dream of humans. The true American dream. This landscape though is tortured. It must have been a serious and dire circumstance that brought them here. Survival at it's most basic level. They were some tough courageous people.
I watch Jeff's videos.
Yours are purty good.
When you are out there
you might think about
where the nearest water is,
and where the nearest potential corn field is.
These may have been traveler's points of rest.
You are so very fortunate to live in an area of tremendous geological beauty. I live near Ottawa in Canada and there isn't much of anything to explore up here.
Love these discovery hikes. Maybe you could give them an index reference, numbered, or date so I can keep track of those that I have already watched. Gracias
It took 1 video for me to subscribe. This is historically awesome
Another great virtual adventure & history lesson ... thanks for taking me along ❤
Can't wait for you to come back into the area. Im curious if the near by ice caves have anything to do with the variety of pottery. Could be some sort of trading post?
Love your videos ..the presence of broken pottery means it is a disposal area ...when one dies, they would journey north to an area where they break one's pottery so it could never be used again.
I have seen areas that appear like those from before and the were actually places where fires were set and covered by the natives to process plants for food. I've seen the same thing on a couple of other channels that explained what they were and how they were used.
Awesome find, thanks for sharing. 🙏🏼
Thanks again for sharing amazing country.
Fascinating locations, it's amazing how things are preserved in a dry environment. A word of advice - the video quality is very juddery. It looks like all your videos are 50 fps - but I assume you shot at 60, and when you export it's somehow being badly converted down to 50 fps. I find the unevenness of the motion to be quite distracting - but that might just be me.
I just came across your channel an hour ago. It was your video before this one that showed up in my recommended feed. Ya get a Sub from me.👍 These places are amazing, especially to imagine it during its time when it was inhabited. I can just picture all the people milling around, going about their day. I think they had it right all along. No hour and a half commute everyday, stuck in gridlock traffic 6 days a week to go work a menial job ya hate for 10 hours a day just so you can afford an apartment your never in, to pack it with a bunch’a sh** ya never use.
Hey Andrew, if ya ever find one of those ruins still habitable, let me know…will ya? Lol.
Haha I’ll keep my eye out for you 😉 Thanks for subbing, glad to have you a part of the channel
It's a shame that this kind of ruin cannot be found in the eastern US. There were many native dwellings there too. The trouble is they were built from wood instead of stone and were built in areas that were forested. They became completely obliterated over the centuries. Some mounds still exist but many were destroyed by farming.
Yes, and the humid climate of the east breaks everything down so much faster
All those different kinds of pottery in that onepit house... That place may have been used over long stretches of time. and by many different families.
I love watching archeology blogs. But I sure have taken our American past for granted!
Thanks for your service. LOL.
Another great video, Thanks!
Having lived in the desert, the temperature can drop quickly once the sun goes down. The black lava can radiate heat in those conditions for a while even without a fire.
I was Google earthing that area just a day before I was glad I subscribed to you you got me even closer thanks, I can sit for a time earthing on phone wished I could get better detail ..maby with lap top app better
very cool. I can't imagine living in this terrain. The sandstone areas of the Puebloans is a bit understandable, but the stones here are jagged and unfriendly. But people lived here. Amazing.
You have a great eye for artifacts. I was thinking all that grinding in lava rocks and sandstone... Can you imagine the damage to teeth and gut?
So absolutely cool, and unbelievable… more, please!
Metal tag on a spike that's pounded into a rock crack @ 11:44.
Your last site on this video is incredible. At a distance it appears to be a dragon sculpture.
Feels like a ceremonial spot given the variety of pottery possibly offerings
NA 1739 at time mark 11:46 note the metal marker tag 02-3258, that should be easy to look up.
My wife and I were in that area in late May. Alien and beautiful and crazy to hike in. Thank you for your channel and the way you honor the places you visit.
I just found ur channel and subbed. Awesome content and you are so educational and respectful. Thank you for that.
Welcome aboard!
12:49 I find it very interesting the pottery you find in a cinder environment. There must have been travel and trade to obtain pottery.
Thank you for sharing.
Fairly certain I recognize this area. If I'm right, you should check out the petroglyphs NW of there, north of the city to the West.
I'll keep the actual names and sites unspoken, though.
(That area you're in for this video, if it's the one I'm thinking of, is still hundreds of square miles, but I see the effort you're going to in order to keep them as unspoiled as possible, and I respect that)
Some of those rock structures though, could also be old range shelters from cowboys themselves, and not from ancient Amerinds. (The trash scattered around is a clue - pottery for ancients, steel cans for cowboys! 😂)
This reminds me of our family farm between Bend and Redmond, OR. We children explored all the caves and found arrowheads. The high dessert. Beautiful. 😊💕🇺🇸
Another unique find, fascinating and that panoramic view that goes for miles! Love imagining the human hands that fashioned all that.
You and me both!
Great, that was amazing 🤩⭐️😎
New subscriber here. Thanks for taking me along. Interesting content. Thanks for the thoughtful narration and the absence of music.
If you find lots of broken pottery, different kinds, shapes, colors patterns, etc. in a localized area it usually means it is a ceremonial site or formally a burial site. FYI.
in Hidalgo County, NM, on top of a hill in a long grass-dominated valley, bracted by two mountain ranges, there are these type of structures on top of a hill. Many rooms and also built of broken basalt. Because it is on top of a hill in a long flat valley, we assumed it had some "fortification" function. It's on private land and neither known nor visited. I love your videos.
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love seeing what you discover. i have a question about the pottery. what do you think happened to the pottery? why is it in pieces and scattered? vandals or did the people living there break it up?
Very cool stuff, keep up the interesting work
Its cool how all the pottery fragments look similar from 1 vlog to the next
Those mounds could be potential hunting blinds
Government is pretty picky. We had to jog a fence almost a quarter mile to avoid where they thought an old sheepherder MIGHT have been buried. Nothing marked anywhere. I have no idea how they thought they knew.
Whenever I found large variations of pottery in an area, I thought it was a gathering place where different tribes got together for trade or had a party.
Beautiful rock and interesting structure you found …thank you
Always enjoy, keep it up