Sulzer in the 1930s
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- The video was created by Sulzer in 1984 and is based on footage material from the 1930s. It shows factory work in Winterthur, the challenging delivery of products and visits from and to international customes.
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Holy SMOKES those people worked hard back then. The world we have today just would not exist without them. Thanks for posting this video
yes and they did not have hay fever, lactose intolerance, gluten intolerance and other nowadays fashionable handicap!
No, actually they probably *did* have those things, they just didn’t know about those conditions or their symptoms, so they ‘gutted it out’ like I did when *I* was younger and paid the price for doing so years later, e.g. gluten/fat problems…
Chugging Alcohol by the bottle and working in a heavy machinery industry! What a time to be alive!
You woulden't be alive to long id bet, that sort of thing will kill ya ;)
Most likely water in the containers. They are working in a very hot place.
@@pixelpatter01 I was thinking the same thing
And yet somehow they produced some of the finest machinery in the world
Wow, what a great video 👍
I used to weave on Sultzer looms i looked after 8 looms that was in 1965 ,im still working at 75 yo in 2018. I left school in 1958 when i was 14 years 11 months old.
whitey... whats on your mind these days... Im 64 and a little disappointed at the lack of love for Country... You are part of the best generation ever in history... a full blooded American hero !!!
They truly don’t make em like you anymore........ unfortunately.
whatever like a 75 year olds on youtube and commenting on a sultzer doco... whitey lies
I was in Australia when i worked on Sultzer looms ,I moved to Australia in 1964 from UK I WAS 21 years old ON MY OWN with $40 dollars in my pocket. Now i,m 76 yo and still run and manage my own Laundromat running American DEXTER washers a clothes driers..cheers and i,m not a liar. Cheers.
MR sorry you are wrong
Had the privilege of working at Sulzer South Africa for 18 years. Things have changed. Men where men and work was work..
Thoroughly enjoyed that, thank you. No overweight people back in the day, I feel ashamed.
;) Umm me too :(
Well they didn’t work like that atleast some didn’t even overweight back then was stronger than today
There was not much to eat in those days
In those days overweight people were not hired at companies like Sulzer. It was
a bad reflection on the companies image. Swiss companies were very "image" conscience. Overweight people tended to be slow, under productive, fall asleep at their desk etc and were often laid off if one happened to "baloon up" or gain a lot of weight. There were no laws against discrimination in those days. Even today a fat person is usually not hired versus a slender person if their qualifications are the same. Some predjudices never change.
Stop with the shame and lose some weight.
Absolutely fascinating; TY for posting! I worked in a foundry for years and we prided ourselves on safety. Our safety man would pass out if he saw the first couple minutes of this film!
I guess his position was invented a little later.
Great bit of historical footage.
I love that echoey vibraphone throughout
I actually enjoyed this video, very well done.
Grew up in Winterthur and did my apprenticeship at Sulzer in the 80's. The company apprentice hospital was still in use then and accomodated people who lived too far for commuting.
Did they still have feet washers?!
@@middleway5271 Not that I can remember. Maybe in another building of the factory.
The way these companies understand their employees importance is appreciative ....These were legendry machines n only because of legendry hard workers...👍👍
4:40 I’m surprised they have welding masks, just assumed there’d be a guy shouting at you “What too bright for you sonny?”
I worked as an apprentice in a drawing office not dissimilar to the one shown but smaller in scale. There was no chatting because the draughtsmen were concentrating and didn't want their attention broken.
I remember the antique Sulzer 7RD 76, 7 in line cylinders,10000 hp at 115rpm,and biturbo, One turbo fotr three cylinders and the other for tht other four cylinders.
Good documentary! Good ole hard working!
To think that this took place nearly a hundred years ago, just blows my mind...
The backsounds make this video perfect
Back when a man was glad and proud to work for a company and the company was glad to have the employee.
Correct. The biggest concern for any company now is keeping investors happy so everything is secondary to maximising profit and cutting costs. Accountants make decisions that ultimately compromise workers conditions. It’s a shit time to be a worker.
Im sure their were lots of firing and hiring going on. Dont let a cheesey video blind you to the fact that if you didnt do a good job and obeyed the rules you got replaced.
The famous Kalakala which was in service on Puget Sound from the mid 1930's until the mid 1960's was powered by a pair of Busch-Sulzer diesel engines.
Love the speed boat with one engine and a full displacement hull! That thing probably did about 20 knots!
Great..!
wow, I used to pick up these pumps at their Burnaby yard in Canada
That was Fascinating
Fascistnating, did you say?
Super, thank you👍
Sulzer is a Swiss industrial engineering and manufacturing firm. Never heard of them before. Had to look up.
hence high precision reliable engineering, including rail locos that work in uber-cold weather and "up n down" mountains.
And very hot weather. The first Diesel locomotives on the Central Australian Railway, were the NSU class, powered by Sulzer diesels.
The whole cuckoo clock story is a hoax. They come from the black forest in Germany and have nothing to do with Switzerland. But somehow people got convinced about that…
also cheese, milk, and chocolate, they build very good machine shop tools as well, though not as famous as the germans, french or british, but thats a story for another time.
@@manga12 i am afraid, you have never heard of the real world wide famous Saurer engines, far ahead of any other manufacturers around the globe!
Interesting and very well done. The narrator was excellent.
Very cool.
Love this video.manual Machinists are the solid true article.
Thank you.
" A job done well deserves a fair reward." Those days are gone.
Those days are NOT gone, but they're slipping away. Unions help a LOT. Happy to be working where I'm at for 25 years. I'm 72, and can't imagine not being at work on time every day.
@@soularddave2 : You're in the minority. Far more have bounced around in their 25 year work lives than been at one place. With a union, no less.
HA! No Talking in the drawing room but out on the shop floor you can guzzle straight vodka!! YEEEE HAAAA!
SHERMAN YOUNG hey buddy...walk it off
Hakapik Alot of overtime
injuries weren't common cause no one had distractions, none. There was no phones, no radios no nuthin. Plus all white people, all the same culture and teamwork works much better that way.
It's like that older comedian said recently ''if you were dumb you didn't make it'' LoL i just made up that 1st part but it sounds good eh
Nice Blonde Girl I work with headphones plus saves my hearing from the constant firing of my nail gun it helps keep my mentality active and reduces my drowsiness after hours of work and these types of work areas did have many accidents it's not distractions specifically it's awareness of your surroundings and work area
I then realized it said read more on your comment :/
@@niceblondegirl8776 yes, we need to erase the failed multiculti shit project!
Fascinating thanks
Excellent.
Best viewed with sound off.
Love the 2018 Haircuts
Very nice piece of history, and quite an good was promote the company :-) Lots has change :-)
Amazing
Thanks
Amasing the music
I realized long ago that the "good 'ol days"...weren't.
For the people wondering about workers drinking at work. In that time it was common to drink and smoke at work. As it was common to work without protections or taking deadly risks to accomplish it. It was even regarded as healthy (well compared to the work definitely yes) And to sustain such stamina at work, you needed to be up to it. It was no meant to aggressive on each other :-)) Wine gave you strength ! As Mathew Fogerty pointed out. Men were tough ! They need to be ! My father too was having his content of wine. Was cycling forth and back to work after his 10 hours of duty and was gardening for the family after work for the fare. I suspect it was to stretch a little before dinner ;-) As far as I remember he never hit one of his many children. The man was a machine. His work was a tough one and he committed to it with dedication precision and modesty. Which was and remains admirable. Like many of the men you can see in this video. So don't talk like a spoiled brat. Just watch...
I worked in place that made stamping presses for the automotive industry that had equipment like Sulzer
sulzer company has been here in my town. for along time. as long as i know that our power plant is tobe hendle by them.
At my first "factory type" job (1970) the washrooms had hand washing stations like pictured 0:25. More than one person has found someone "not so sophisticated" urinating is the wash basin.
Horse shoes on the magnet at 13:15 ( scrap) , that's a hoot.
Interesting Sulzer story, would like to see similar on MFO Maschinen Fabrik Oelikon Zch!!
I like that company!
I never worked as hard as these guys Im 50. My brother is 30. And if this was the only job, maybe Id not last long but I would give it 110%. My brother...would starve..its too dorty...its too heavy...its too dangerous. What a differnce a generation makes
Most people these days going into the work force would not do this type of work or any other non social media related work because they cannot have their smartphones
Ozdave McGee what generation difference?Im 26 and i have bloody blisters on my hands.I dont mind working hard and dangerous work even tho i don't have to
@Gumelini1 - You are one of the endangered species then. Most people nowdays think making some low tier youtube video in an air conditioned office with snacks and catering provided is manual labor.
ElfNet Designs i prefer making everything by myself because if i screw it up i cant blame anyone else.And i hate gloves,they are allways in the way when i work with them.It feels like my hands are not mine,so I avoid them as much as possible
At 3:12 I want one of those mill/planers for my shop! :-)
bcbloc02 - Brian! You have enough huge machinery! Save some for the rest of us. Still waiting to see one of those big compressor shafts on that boat sized monarch!
One standout is how labour intensive work was back then, modern factories have so much more automation..
Great workers
Increible!!!
Hard working men building shit thanks for posting this outstanding footage
God bless
Would be neat to take footage made from 84 to now and make a second part of this.
it was very nice
great Switzerland's Winterthur
Melting horseshoes to make diesel engines, how's that for on the nose?
+theworkshop Real work makes real men
A pesar que era difícil vivir era muy bonita la vida sin telefonos celulares móviles 📲 se disfrutaba todo por que era novedad
This video brings back family memories. My mother accompanied her father to visit several German manufacturers at around this time. He was just getting a cold heading business going, and visited machine suppliers (of cold heading equipment) as well as customers (for his fasteners). My mom would have been about 15 at the time of these film clips. (I don't know if they visited Switzerland, or if Sultzer was either a supplier or a customer. I didn't see anyone who looked like them, though.) However, this kind of tour would have been typical of their visit, and the manufacturing methods and conditions would have been similar to those in the US at the time. My grandfather had a very paternal relationship with his employees and would visit their homes to see how they lived. (Such a relationship would not be tolerated these days.)
Twenty-odd years later, as a teenager, I also travelled with my grandfather to visit machine suppliers and fastener customers (but US only). A few years after that I worked in the toolroom, and a few years after that my mother was Chairman of the Board. A family-run business as long as we owned it. One of my cousins turned out to be the longest-serving employee in the history of the company from his teens to his retirement.
Peter W. Meek What’s the company name?
Ring Screw Works (one of the very rare incorporated Michigan businesses without either Inc or Co in the registered name). My family sold it to Textron in the late '90s; Textron may have sold it to someone else. My grandfather was apprenticed as a blacksmith in Sweden when he was seven years old. He came to the US around 1905 to Rockford, IL (huge Swedish community there) where he worked as a machinist. In 1920, the family moved to Detroit to be near the budding automobile industry. In 1929 he founded Ring Screw Works. Eventually we had 10 plants in the Detroit area and around 1100 employees. (My grandfather believed that no single plant manager could manage more than about 100 employees, and know each one of them personally - their strengths and weaknesses.)
Peter W. Meek First off that is amazing your Grandpa started a company right in 1929 and didn’t fail!And it’s super amazing how many companies supply parts to the automakers and you never hear of them! Reading around through Ring screw seems to be owned by a company called Acument Global Technologies and not Textron anymore but I can’t find a date on that but either way I wish there were more business/boss that cared about their employees!
That is the main difference between family owned versus holding company-owned businesses. Families can look ahead for generations while stockholder-owned holding companies rarely look beyond the next quarter. In spite of promises (hah!) made to us by Textron that they were buying RSW for its ethos (best in the business) and that they did not plan to change a thing, within a few years, the Textron stockholders replaced their top management with people who would generate higher dividends RIGHT NOW. So they raped RSW and sold off the pieces. Needless to say, neither the "new" Textron nor AGT gave a damn about the employees who (justifiably) now felt that our family had let them down.
I don't know what else we could have done, but we were no longer able to provide family people to run the company and rather than become absentee owners with remote managers, we sold it to a company that we thought would keep following our business model. Nearly 30 years later, I still feel sick about what happened to RSW employees. When my mother was Chairman of the BOD, she followed the family tradition and made it a point to visit each plant every few months and go around and talk to each of those 1100 employees individually. She was nearly 80 when we sold RSW, and she took her stewardship seriously.
You are both right and wrong about the number of suppliers to the auto industry. In one decade the number of fastener suppliers dropped from over 50 to just 5. When we sold RSW to Textron it dropped to 4. The big three automakers (four if you count Honda) were making every effort to reduce the number of suppliers by introducing requirements that only the largest suppliers could comply with. It worked, and like most things it had unintended consequences.
it... it was ... it was such a differnt world back then ... so long..so long ago ...
Some of this must have been post-war. On one of the railway cars "US-British Zone" was stenciled.
A was about to say the same when I seen that railcar
Not to mention at 10:09 the narrator explicitly states, "After the second world war..."
Época boa.
Wow...many countries still not up to it..
5:17 Those locomotives were headed to Thailand, not Romania ;-D
Ha, I was wondering how you knew, and then I see the plate with BANGKOK written on it!
But Sulzer also delivers Locomotives to Romania in those days. Later, Romania build locomotives in licence from Sulzer many decades.
By around 2:22, I knew that the audio comments were someone’s modern attempt to incorrectly analyze this historic video, so I muted the audio and watched without any sound.
10:08 "after the second world war a military delegation from the us takes a tour" so 1945+, not the 1930s...
Also the Boat Freccia Bianca was made 1948 (later called Fortuna)
Love nice
the phrase INDENTURED SERVITUDE springs to mind!!!
I prefer this to present day.
Sulzer do Brazil / Rio de Janeiro - Ermando Henriques ( R.I.P ) ,Employed for 30 years.
Seu Apelido na Sulzer no bairro de Guadalupe - RJ , Era Boca Rica.
Started off looking like an older boys orphanage! Cool vid though, Thanks
God where have a the good days gone?
adys delicias : these weren't them.
They were somewhere between 70s and 90s. These days there are too many women working in a mans job, for example making important political decisions. Thats the reason why Sweden has no-go places. Sad to think about it.
They are still ahead, like always. Back then you worked 60-70 hour weeks and had a high chance of getting maimed or killed because some stupid unnecessary shit.
4:14 - 4:40, Worked at a shipyard 2 years ago, after cutting a 6' x 8' hole in the side of the boat, the new piece was put back as you see here. Over 80 years and not much has changed. Progress?.................
Main progress is in the fact we make large ships in independent sections and we piece it together. But other then that a worker from 1930s would not need much re-training - maybe in the area of safety.
Hats protect you from hazard.... I should buy one.
today no one will work like this, but sacrífices got to be made , i guess, to really push things forward...
6:12 - Railcar is stenciled, "Brit - US - Zone". This wasn't the 30s.
Dead Frt West he also stated that it was after the war when showing the Americans around.
And I thought removing cylinder head nuts from a Sulzer 12LDA28 already was hard work, but they needed four men for that one in the video, no hydraulic wrenches in those days.
We forget hydraulics are a fairly new.
C Smith As far as hydraulic tools yes, they didn't become commonplace until the 60's, but hydraulic machines are quite long known.
The old Greeks already knew hydraulic principles and made some simple machines, during the industrial revolution hydraulics, albeit with water, were commonly used.
Some British cities did even have hydraulic networks, where high pressure water was distributed trough a pipe network.
Parts of this can be seen in the museum of science and industry in Manchester.
You got me there, I should have thought that statement through before I wrote it, I should have said high pressure hydraulics, I assume it had something to do with reliable seals, maybe once they figured out how to vulcanize rubber?
C Smith That's more correct, compared to modern oil based hydraulic systems those water based systems had only about 1/10th of the pressure, and quite large cylinders were needed, so those were only suitable for large machines but not for hand tools.
By the way, the Tower Bridge in London is powered by water hydraulics.
Sulzer was blacklisted by the Allies during World War II due to an increase in trade with Axis countries. Sulzer refused to sign an agreement to limit the future sale of marine diesel engines to the Axis countries, and was blacklisted by the Allies as a result.
Who cares?
Their engines sucked compared the the GM Winton
That's interesting...they were blacklisted and yet Ford and a few other US corporations which I can't remember the names of did business with Nazi Germany and were not blacklisted?
dronf + It's history and interesting.
Especially since you stated your Grandfather worked for Sulzer triva like this should interest you. That is if you're not a big fucken liar about your Grandfather.
So why are YOU here?
wasdmf!
kiwitrainguy, after the U.S. got involved in WWII?
Çalışkanlık. Bunu başarmışlar. Önde olmak. Müthiş bir duygu olsa gerek.
Why does it Brit-US-zone on the railway car before the end of ww2?
50 years? Now 90 years ago... Wow !! Fantastic !! The Germans are something else !!
You are correct, the Germans are something else because Sulzer is Swiss...
So Sulzer was basically a huge general machine shop, but with a specialisation in diesel engines?
Simon Richard yes
Nowadays they make pumps at least, we just bought some.
water pumps, looms and stitching machines for around the globe too.
@11.50 the staff going through all the pay envelops with cash inside to find their own. Such were the days. Note they were allowed to drink in the canteen, as well as heavily in the casting and forging plants.
What is the meaning from sulzer ?
They cared about there workers back then fed them everyday !
Great to see how life was back then. But the sound effects in this video was awful!
Oh, and the comments are more fun to read then the video.
Sound effect sucks indeed
Hilarious! I miss my Sulzer diesel washing machine.
Sulzer were good diesel electric locomotives on the BR-GWR in the 60's when they are working, but when they break down and it's time for overall and maintenance, that is when the fun begins, hard work !!
That was not a Caterpillar tractor. It was a cletrac. Cleveland tractor.
can i have permission to use sections of this video without audio for a project?
Happy to see you're interested in using parts of our video. If you indicate © Sulzer Ltd as source you can use the footage.
@@SulzerLtd definitely will do. Have a nice day :-)
the old film playback needs to be fixed. There is no reason for that "sped up" effect anymore.
This must include footage from the 40's too? WWII ended in 1945...
Too much shame to show us what's happening between the Swiss manufacturers and the Nazis!
Took me a while to realise that in fact the narrator wasn't taking the piss.
I am surprised about the existence of already modern looking diesel electric locomotives in the 30's.
Therefore it's more surprising to me that Ferdinand Porsche had such difficulties when creating his Ferdinand battle tank with almost the same technology in the 40's. (WW2)
Porsche may have been a good engineer, possibly even better than me lol, but neither of us were/are miracle-workers. Creating a loco to run either forwards or backwards, on smooth load-bearing rails, and in peacetime is rather easier than creating a multi-tasking AFV to drive in all directions on soft ground while your factory is being bombed and theres a shortage of critical materials. Especially the Ferdinand which was literally a white Elephant, grossly oversized overweight unrealistic design which was always a non-starter for several reasons. Sadly for the Germans their later tank designs were overly-influenced by an idiot in overall command, and being over-complicated hence unreliable in their design, esp the drivetrains. They were trying to build super-tanks similar in concept to those which the Russians had already wisely dropped in favour of simple yet efficient designs like T34.
Me and the Scottish dude that invented the steam-locomotive have the same birthday, so I guess I have that going on.
it was 50 years ago 40 years ago :)
who said hard work never killed anyone!!!
Marvell of German engineering
Pride of finland
Whats with the hokey music?