The Atheist Experience 828 with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples
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- The Atheist Experience 828 for August 18, 2013 with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples.
Jen clarifies what an ad hominem attack is and isn't.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
01:06- Intro & Announcements - Matt Dillahunty
02:12- Matt Dillahunty on his interview regarding Christian billboards being put up around Austin
06:52- Jen Peeples on ad hominem attacks
19:24- Aharon (theist): believes in God based on faith, in order to believe in the universe we must have an eternal being, cells must be eternal, the Bible is moral, why do the hosts have a sense of morality if they're just going to die
41:51- Ron (atheist): the Vatican accepting evolution disproves the Genesis account, what would the hosts accept as proof of God
46:58- John (theist): whatever the first thing was had to be God, because God was the beginning, religion teaches you to be a good person, do the hosts believe in a beginning to the universe
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If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
Aharon is struggling to find logic. Theism cripples logic.
And he starts by evaluating 99% (or so) of the callers as “stupid” and then proceeds to…
Believer: Your Relationship with god is simply a profound and dynamic relationship with the self, with your ego. This is why god can seem so very real to you. In a sense he is real. He is you. This is why god's opinions are so very often your opinions. This is why two believers of the same religion can both claim to agree with god's opinion but not with each others. When you pray and god gives you answers you are the source of those intuitions. You are simply having a conversation with yourself and don't even realize it. This is why god can always assuage any doubts of the believer. You see, "God" knows exactly how you think because he is you. He knows your tastes, your biases and all the gaps in your logic. Therefore it follows that "he" knows what arguments you will find compelling and what mental gymnastics you are capable of to ignore any arguments to the contrary. Ironically I probably can't convince you of anything I stated above because of the very fact that it is in fact true. You are "god".
The next time you hear someone preaching or waxing poetic about god, Jesus, Mohamed or Joseph Smith, change all the names and pronouns you hear them say, in your mind, so that they refer to the person speaking and trust me you will get a whole new perspective on life.
This is why believers have such a strong emotional reaction whenever they encounter a non-believer. They simply misperceive the non-believers rational skepticism about the supernatural and occult as an assault on their "god" which is to say their own personal identity.
There are a vast multitude of religions and superstitious beliefs in the world that espouse many mutually contradicting doctrines. Therefore they cannot all be true. but they can certainly all be false. Even if one were actually proven to be true it would still follow that human beings have a rather remarkable propensity for making up entire religions from whole cloth. I think that all religions and other supernatural beliefs are cultural phenomena of purely human making. Much of this impulse in human culture is driven by peoples existential angst, their innate and instinctive fear of death. Their own death and the death of the people they love. It can seem easier to deal with death by convincing ourselves that it is not real. "My loved one is not dead they are in the afterlife", we tell ourselves. And "Of course I will never die! that's absurd!". You all need to grow up. Embrace the suck! And make the most of the time you actually do have.
You are mortal. Death is real...... Get over it.
I sincerely and earnestly do not believe that gods exist. But you have each other. Perhaps that alone could bring meaning to your lives.
However if you insist on believing in supernatural claims at a minimum please do us all a big favor and don't give your hard earned money to religions pimps and hucksters.
Or attempt to control others through politics.
Calls start @ 19:25.
Thank you :)
He said most of the callers he heard on the show sound like idiots and he ends up sounding like an idiot who cant defend his faith.
Jesus: "love thy neighbor as you love thyself."
Christians: "people who don't agree with me are idiots."
Hmmmm.....
Jesus " slaves obey your masters"
What you have to “admire” of believers like Aharon here is that their faith is such a strong driver that completely erases the normal sense of shame anyone would have to show this total lack of basic knowledge of his own reasons for believing and yet think he can “stand on the pulpit “ of morality. This is a Dunning Kruger effected believer, he thinks he knows enough to patronise/lecture others using his own empty well of knowledge.
"Ron" from Brooklyn is a flerfer, his screen name is Wotan and he calls in a couple times a year. He used to appear on Red's Rhetoric and Non Sequiteur frequently..
He's a ding-dong of the nth degree.
I tell you, studying the origin & the root of my former beliefs as a Christian is what smacked me across the face & finally woke me up. The foundation of what I used to believe in as a Christian was built not on martyrdom, but annihilating all other spiritual practices & opposing Christian sects that viewed God as being the Devil really started to get me to think deeply about what I truly believe & why. To believe in a religion that came to be not because of truth but because of death & destruction does not equate to a God of love, which started me on my deprogramming journey out of Christianity. I’m so grateful to have seen the light of logic & reason. The Emerald Tablets also is what helped me understand that extraordinary claims cannot be true unless they can be replicated, if you can break the natural laws of this reality you should be able to demonstrate/observe walking on water, turning water into wine, virgin births etc. otherwise they’re fiction.
19:28 C Aharon Camden, NJ. Age 15. Homeschooled. Remedial gotcha questions. Apologetics 101.
41:50 A Ron Brooklyn, NY Catholic tap dance around Evolution.
-/- HEY! Aharon. Then A Ron ...
C'mon. That's some quality coincidence right there. GOTTA mean something. Amirite?
46:55. John. N Hollywood, CA God cuz...not even, well...bible Jesus if you, uh know what..but then science creation bible atoms.
“I cannot give any evidence, but here’s what I want to ask.”
When religious apologists realize all their “arguments” fail, they often start asking questions so they don’t have to face their failures.🤡
“I guess I’m confusing you guys…”
No, you’re confusing yourself.🤤
good show
John is an ad hominem attack.
John - -- Got Meth?.....
"About slavery... that one little topic."
Throat punch follows, in a just world.
This life is all we KNOW we have. It stands to reason that we would want to make the most of it. And following a moral code contributes significantly to that.
Further, anyone who embraces the bible as a moral source has no fucking business questioning anyone else's moral leanings.
I am a very forgiving person.
I forgive God for not helping his son when he most needed help.
There he was, crying out to God, who ignored him.
"My God, my God, Hello, Dad, Daddy, Pop, Father, Pater, Papa, why hast thou forsaken me ? "
Lol
Hey me, why have I forsaken me? Which by the way is all part of the plan I came up with...
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Yes, it's all rather confusing.
Mary is the mother of God and her Father is God, so God is his own son and grandfather.
God and Mary were not married, so Jesus is illegitimate and not allowed in his own congregation.
@@tedgrant2 Yep. She was screwed by her son.
Ta da!
@@tedgrant2 LMAO
When we talk about "feeling" God? Isn't another feeling we can't explain "Love"? And if your really compare those two inside yourself? Isn't it very close, or even EXACTLY the same feeling? Personlly I've experienced both these "feelings" in different times while thinking God AND for another person, to the extreme point of my physical heart jumping out of my chest. Over my life, "Now" I don't confuse those definitions anymore, and I don't attribute Love to be some supernatural phenomena. It is simply the Love I experience to any degree for everything in this entire universe. My atheism now uncovers answers to serious physical dilemas, and I experience my heart jumping out of my chest all the time without fail. The knowledge one gains/uncovers over time gets exponentially greater as real questions get actual answers instead of settling for "magic did it". Life is wonderous and amazing, and I don't need a God to be the answer that stifles my yearning for knowledge and making life better and better day after day. Gr8! Peace ☮💜
Aharon has this to go back to for life. That’s gotta hurt.
Well done.
That remark he made about 90 percent of all (presumably theistic) callers being idiots didn’t age well, but it did age quickly.
22:13 Let me add to that group…..
If I put a letter to God up the chimney, will he read it ?
It depends on which God
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Correct. I'm thinking of the famous Chimney God.
@@tedgrant2 Santa?
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That's it, you got it !
In your mind, maybe. You see what you look for.
John sounds drunk
Ron aka Joey Bag Of Donuts.
Jen was a beautiful woman.
Did she pass away??
@@mr.simmons8584 ikr what a weird thing to say
@@mr.simmons8584 she became very religious and left the show
@@SeventeenSphinx did she really?
@@emorytodalen6627 i looked and couldnt find a source for it.
Sorry, but impoverished people working off a debt is NOT slavery. That's called a job. You working off a debt is called payment. The master feeds you, plus him paying off your debt is the same as paying you. You work out off
bob obo let’s for a moment say you’re correct, and what they call slavery in the bible was just having a job.
If you have a job where you are considered the property of your employer, and they are allowed to beat you so long as you don’t die from the beating. Then that system of work is immoral and so is anyone promoting it.
What are they working off a debt for?
Gotta love how theists make a stupid comment, and then disappear immediately after, no defense of it whatsoever lol. Sad shit.
Your boss doesn't own you, your boss does not get to beat you. No what you describe is not a job, that is slavery. And it is monstrous, b ut not even the most despicable form of slavery sanctioned by your imaginary friend. YTou have lost your morality because you are forced to defend a vile book.